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Arts & Entertainment / Re: Bioshock Infinite
« on: October 11, 2013, 02:33:02 PM »
eee

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Arts & Entertainment / Re: Bioshock Infinite
« on: October 11, 2013, 02:30:23 PM »
Gameplay is 8/10, overall 9.5/10. okay.jpg

Actually, I can't tell if this is pasta...

I hope you are not quoting me, because I claimed GUNPLAY was 8/10 not gameplay.

Uh... there's something else?

Something else to the gameplay besides gunplay?  Yeah, there is.  There is the world design, skyrail, character design, and pretty much any other factor that comes into affecting how the game is played.  In fact in this game I would argue that the plot is the reward for progressing, and thereby should be considered part of gameplay.

Still though, if gunplay and gameplay are viewed as one in the same and seperate from plot and other things in the game, why couldn't gameplay be viewed as 8/10 whilst the experience as a whole be viewed as above that?

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Well, if you really like your games to be movies so much that the major bulk of gameplay matters that little to you, I don't know what to tell you. Go play some fucking David Cage games, I think they'd be right down your alley.

I just find it absurd that you pretty much tried to write off the game's flaws while still thinking it's nearly perfect. If the game's flaws are commonly shared by the entire genre, they somehow don't apply to this particular game? lol? If the genre the game was chosen to be conflicts so much with what it tried to achieve with its narrative, then I'm sorry, but that's a massive fucking flaw in terms of game design. If you review games by completely ignoring (and you literally did use the term "ignore") the bad parts, then every game is perfect.

Also, he didn't misunderstand the ending, it's you who completely failed to pick up on the massive internal contradictions in the ending.

I Don't think they are serious flaws.  I enjoyed the Gunplay, I just did not think it was on par with the rest of the game.  Also I don't view those mechanics as flaws.  Characters in shooters will aways have these random abilities/strengths that just don't make sense if you really sit down and think about them, but they are not the point.  Getting bogged down in mechanics that don't really detract from the story of the game is not something I would recommend doing, and its something that you have to deal with in every medium.  We all look past things that we can tell are CGI, in movies we are often forced to look past problems with physics, ignore giant gaps in time.  These things may effect character progression, but only if you stare into them.  I see the mechanics, but I am not looking at them. 

Ignoreing mechanics that are not "bad" is not the same as ignoring flaws in the game.  I don't think that they are really flaws, they are simply things that are there to make it a game rather than a movie.  In most games this is a non issue, as the gameplay, gunplay, or whatever you want to call it is the main draw of the experience, sometimes the only draw.  But In Bioshock, the world, the atmostphere, and the plot are the draw, the result being that the fighting done in between, while fun, ends up feeling like something stuck inbetween the story rather than part of the story.  The end result is that the game is near perfect, but not perfect.  I found that the pacing was such that I was very often engaged in the story between quick short fights, or exploring the city looking for more lore, so I never felt like the gunplay was becoming to overwhelming or annoying, even if I felt it was below what I would consider a near perfect story and environment. 

Let me put it this way, the shooting quality, the fun of the fights, was well above average in my point of view.  It is only subpar to other elements of the game, but it is in no way bad, boring, or annoying.   Maybe on higher difficulties, but I was playing on hard and found it to be just fine.

As for the ending, why don't you explain what you think it means/what happened rather than just say I got it wrong?


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Arts & Entertainment / Re: Bioshock Infinite
« on: October 11, 2013, 01:28:44 PM »
Gameplay is 8/10, overall 9.5/10. okay.jpg

Actually, I can't tell if this is pasta...

I hope you are not quoting me, because I claimed GUNPLAY was 8/10 not gameplay.

Uh... there's something else?

Something else to the gameplay besides gunplay?  Yeah, there is.  There is the world design, skyrail, character design, and pretty much any other factor that comes into affecting how the game is played.  In fact in this game I would argue that the plot is the reward for progressing, and thereby should be considered part of gameplay.

Still though, if gunplay and gameplay are viewed as one in the same and seperate from plot and other things in the game, why couldn't gameplay be viewed as 8/10 whilst the experience as a whole be viewed as above that?

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Arts & Entertainment / Re: Bioshock Infinite
« on: October 11, 2013, 01:20:58 PM »
Gameplay is 8/10, overall 9.5/10. okay.jpg

Actually, I can't tell if this is pasta...

I hope you are not quoting me, because I claimed GUNPLAY was 8/10 not gameplay.


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Arts & Entertainment / Re: Specific trends you hate in music
« on: October 11, 2013, 11:06:38 AM »
I don't know whether it's a British thing, but the trend to copying the Arctic bloomin' Monkeys.

"Whine whine whine in a Nerrrrtherrn accent over a fairly tedious song."

There are people trying to copy the arctic monkeys?

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Arts & Entertainment / Re: Bioshock Infinite
« on: October 11, 2013, 10:56:35 AM »
Interesting review. I haven't played Infinite but a lot of his arguments seem reasonable.

I don't think all of his arguments are reasonable, especially his ideas regarding character development.  Game reviewers like this often tend to think that all characters need to be dynamic, that because Booker does not change much throughout the story, suddenly the game is bad or his character is not as good as it could be, which is not the case.  Booker, while being the person you control, is more of a tool used to see Elizabeth, and making him a dynamic character would detract from her.  His character is a simple one, as it should be.

 He argues that because you cannot sympathies with him because he mercilessly kills hundreds of people, but that's frankly a problem with the whole genre of FPS's and games as a whole.  You have to with pretty much any game that involves killing look past the fact that you have killed so many people, in the exact same way that you have to look past your cast knowledge of weaponry, pin point accuracy, ability to heal wounds using doctors bags without any formal training, and any other number of mechanics that are in for game-play purposes.  If one considered all of these things, Booker becomes on par with the Master Chief in terms of abilities, despite lacking MJOLNER.  If we consider this story in Movie for, Booker would have been a relatable and sympathetic character, likely killing many less people, and doing so in self defense or over rage at the taking of Elizabeth, and since I ignore the mechanics of the game, IE enemies you have to shoot just so the game takes longer, i found Booker to be relatable enough.

If you want to criticize the killing that Booker does, its only for me an issue in the amount of combat that there is when compared to how awesome the story/Elizabeth is.  I found the combat to be enjoyable, but I always just wanted to get through it to the next plot development, because the plot was much better than the gunplay.  This reinforces what I think Saddam said earlier, which is that the game would have made a better movie.

The thing I disagree most with in his review is the way he describes Elizabeth.  First and foremost he describes her involvement with combat as being nothing more than a source of items, but that's not true.  She also rips open tears, which can/do play a big role in the combat.  If she did anymore then you wouldn't have much to do.  As it is she is a much better companion than most, as having companions that cannot die and also fight makes game too easy in many cases, and having to protect companions makes them feel weak and annoying.  Frankly she did what she needed to do.

He clearly doesn't understand the ending of the story, stating that it was depressing because it claims that an evil megalomaniac will always exist, which isnt the case.

  SPOILERS - - -

 Its clear that the ending does in fact have comstock dead in ever universe he existed in, with Booker united with Anna.  The really depressing part of the story is that with Comstock existing, the character of Elizabeth is dead as well, as Anna will never be that same person, formed by living in that tower under the rule of Comstock." 

SPOILERs END FOR NOW

Elizabeth is a highly dynamic character.  She goes from a claustrophobic trapped girl to one that has killed, and wants to destroy her own captor. Without going into extreme detail, I simply will state that this reviewer is just plain wrong.  She is so much more than a prize for the player, especially considering what I stated in the Spoiler section.

Ultimately I agree that the gunplay and the Vigors could have been more flushed out.  The amount of effort that they put in to fix the gunplay did result in a great shooting experience, but it destracts from the amazing world design and the amazing story, because the gunplay is an 8/10 while the story and world design are both dimes.

I also think that his assessment that the game fails to address social issues in the manner in which Bioshock 1 did is a bit unfair.  While I think that Bioshock 1 was better than the relatively simple assessment that both the Vox populi and the Founders can be bad when pushed to the extreme, Bioshock 1 wasn't open to much interpretation either.  It clearly was trying to show that individual freedom(mixed with crazy or induced by said freedom), when pushed too far, has poor results.

Ultimately it was an excellent game, 9.5/10 for sure, and def worth 12 bucks.









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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Reading between the lines
« on: October 10, 2013, 07:08:01 PM »
We're like the "bad towels" you keep in your garage to dry off your car after you wash it because you don't want to use your nice people ones.

The towels I use to dry off my car are better than those I use to try myself off with...  My skin grows back, its paint, well not so much.

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Technology, Science & Alt Science / Re: Mini tablet wanted
« on: October 10, 2013, 05:53:24 PM »
I'm with Thork, samsung's tablet options simply are not on par with their telephone options.  I am a loyal samsung fanboi and even i admit that screen sucks.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: An alternative to Obamacare
« on: October 09, 2013, 08:55:02 AM »
From the politifact link:

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The group asked: "How do current changes in the medical system affect your desire to practice medicine?" According to the group, 83 percent answered, "Makes me think about quitting," 5 percent said, "Iím re-energized," while 13 percent said they were unsure or had no opinion.

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Despite the linkage by Duncan and other lawmakers to Obamaís Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (PPACA), as "Obamacare" is officially known, the question actually does not mention the law. In fact, only the final question in the poll mentions anything about it, in passing.

Instead, the question asks about "current changes," which could include not just the law, but many other factors, such as changes driven by insurance companies and hospital systems. Thereís no way of knowing what specifically the respondents were referring to.

Yes, I'm sure the doctors thinking about quitting were actually concerned with hospital systems changes and had nothing to do with the industry-wide changes of the medical profession made via Obamacare.

Well I think that doctors are against an form of control they might fall under.  Didn't the article say that 76 percent were upset with government control and 75 percent were up set with insurance companies, and 50 percent were upset with lawyers?

doctors just want to treat patients as best as they can, without jumping through hoops.

In addition the poll is "non scientific," which is why it has no error margins.  Its not really a great source.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: The GOP has gone insane
« on: October 07, 2013, 08:33:56 PM »
See what you've started, Orbis?

I'm sorry...  I'm really fucking sorry about this... So sour.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: The GOP has gone insane
« on: October 07, 2013, 02:28:44 PM »
A child on the west coast wants his parents to let him go on a 2 week long school trip to Washington DC. Mom says yes, and dad says yes. Initially, it seems like a good educational experience. But over time, as the trip nears, the full details come out and when it's time to pay the bill, $3700 for plane trip, hotel, plus expenses, Dad comes to his senses and puts his foot down. The amount is too burdensome for his family to pay in their financial situation.

Why is it wrong for Dad to do this?

Because the Mom and Grandpa are okay with spending grandpa's money on the trip.

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Arts & Entertainment / Re: Bioshock Infinite
« on: October 06, 2013, 08:08:29 AM »
Just bought the game for 12 bucks, I am assuming that Vindictus will be doing the same as he said he would.

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Technology, Science & Alt Science / Re: Steam for Linux
« on: October 04, 2013, 07:20:09 PM »
I'm surprised they are actually sticking Titan into some of them... 1k card...  Maykes my 7970 Ghz look like shit.

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Arts & Entertainment / Re: KoRn
« on: October 04, 2013, 12:45:42 AM »
Sorry, but I can't get over the misspelling. 

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The Lounge / Re: The 1000th post!
« on: October 03, 2013, 02:16:27 PM »
Look at markjo for evidence of what prolonged exposure to RE beliefs can do to you.

markjo is just trolling, he's a flat earther in heart.

Nope, he just trolls by shitting up perfectly good threads.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: An alternative to Obamacare
« on: October 02, 2013, 08:49:35 PM »
Why should the money I earn be taken from me and be given to people who didn't earn it?

Because you are not entirely responsible for the money you earn.  Its as simple as that.

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The Lounge / Re: The 1000th post!
« on: October 02, 2013, 03:09:19 PM »
Being RE isn't what makes someone a permanoob.

Trying to convince tom bishop that the world is round for like 5000 plus posts makes one a permanoob

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Arts & Entertainment / Re: Planetary Annihilation
« on: October 01, 2013, 07:37:28 PM »
Just bought it.  When you get it Irush lets play.

Have you played TA? What is it like in comparison to that?

Nope, but what I can say is that it seem to be all about massive macro games.  Build up a huge economy, production, and pump out tons of units that suck major balls in small numbers.  Its fairly imbalanced as of now, but the whole moving to another planet and building a base there is pretty awesome.  The UI could be streamlined, as hotkeys are lacking.  The performance needs to be improved, because they do a fair amount of the calculations server side the fact that my comp is pretty baller does not matter.

But yeah, massive battles, you can crash planets into one another now, and not much micro, so its my kind of game. 

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Arts & Entertainment / Re: Planetary Annihilation
« on: October 01, 2013, 02:59:27 PM »
Is multiplayer enabled on it? I was under the assumption that it was solo-play only for now.

yeah there is multiplayer

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Government shutdown and default
« on: October 01, 2013, 02:11:52 PM »
This reply is about as much as I'm going to entertain your post. If you want to have a proper debate I suggest you don't insult.

That's a yes then, you dumbass yankee. Come back when you know what the U.S. government is.
lolyankee. He lives in Scotland.

I live in England!!
Oh sorry, I thought you were in south Scotland.

Nope I'm near Oxford, which is south (ish) England. My grandma was Scottish tho.

Scottish is boss.

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Arts & Entertainment / Re: Planetary Annihilation
« on: October 01, 2013, 02:09:13 PM »
Just bought it.  When you get it Irush lets play.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Government shutdown and default
« on: October 01, 2013, 01:55:07 PM »

of who dun it the system is broken.  Personally the republicans seem to be acting like a bunch of little cyring boys, having voted to repeal obamacare in what now must be the 40s.  Anyone/group of people that show that kind of stupidity don't deserve to be in office.
The people who voted the Republicans in want to stop Obamacare, so the Republicans are trying to do just that. This Congressional stalemate is the result of a country that is split down the middle. Neither side is being "children" because both sides are simply doing their job, ensuring that their voters' opinions are being represented in Congress.

Gerrymandering has contributed to republican success in congress more so than any of their policies.  I doubt whether the individuals who want obamacare revoked would prefer a government shutdown.  They lost, its time to accept it. 

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Government shutdown and default
« on: October 01, 2013, 01:45:34 PM »
The system has resulted in the government shutting down, I hardly think that counts as "the system works."

If the democrats didn't want a fight they shouldn't have tried to rob people. They are the ones trying to upset the balance, not the republicans.

Regardless of who dun it the system is broken.  Personally the republicans seem to be acting like a bunch of little cyring boys, having voted to repeal obamacare in what now must be the 40s.  Anyone/group of people that show that kind of stupidity don't deserve to be in office.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Government shutdown and default
« on: October 01, 2013, 01:43:37 PM »
ITT - congress votes and majority support keeping obamacare as a law, but then congress refuses to fund the government.

System working great.


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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Government shutdown and default
« on: October 01, 2013, 12:16:13 PM »
I don't see that these Republicans are doing any wrongs. These Republicans were fairly elected into their positions, too, and have an equal vote on this matter of federal budget.

Are they supposed to just give up their ideals and vote however Obama would vote because he's the president?
The issue isn't how they would vote, the issue is that they will not put a bill up without language to remove another law.

To put it another way, its like your bank refusing to give you an extension on your loan payments unless you throw out your car.(throw out, not sell).

These republicans were fairly voted in to these positions and given the power to do this. It is neither ransom or an abuse of power. They were given the power to vote on the federal budget and didn't like the part where Obama was giving away hundreds of billions of dollars to people who did not earn it.

Which should tell you that your form of governance is broken.
In an odd way, this shut down proves the American system still works. It was designed to be this way and have disputes resolved by compromise. When there is no compromise, something bad happens, so they have to try harder.

Its supposed to stop either party ruling and subjecting the American people to tyranny.

That's not correct.  The system wasn't designed with these kinds of partisan squabbles in mind - in fact, the Founders had hoped that political parties wouldn't form at all.  Having a select few powerful people (i.e. the party leadership) be able to snap their fingers and throw Congress into gridlock is the exact opposite of what they wanted.
I disagree. Obama is trying to choke the American taxpayer with socialism. The Republicans have said no damn way. Now Obama has the unsavoury responsibility of removing Obamacare from his list of demands and is not able to force it onto the American public. He has been stopped. The system works.

The system has resulted in the government shutting down, I hardly think that counts as "the system works."

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The Lounge / Re: Are you smarter than an eighth grader?
« on: October 01, 2013, 08:02:34 AM »
Have you ever tried to pick cotton clean? It sucks. I don't care if Whitney helped a total of 5 slaves from doing it. Good guy, Whitney. I have him to thank for my comfortable clothes and sheets.

Yes, my uncle actually lives on a large cotton plantation. No, he doesn't have any slaves as far as I know. He said they were tenant farmers or some such.

[...]

Thank you for the elaboration.

Of course.

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