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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: I've asked this before, but it wasn't answered
« on: January 16, 2018, 08:38:12 AM »
I believe the northern magnetic pole is near the top of the center of the flat Earth and the southern magnetic pole is simply below the northern pole.

How far is the northern pole from the southern pole?  IE the "thickness" of the Earth plane.

This is not a dodgy YouTube nutter...

Yes, he is exactly that... a dodgy YouTube nutter LOL.

In summary, NASA and astronauts today admit we have not solved the problem of passing the Van Allen radiation belt...

No, NASA has definitely NOT "admitted" this.

Check out this video explaining the science of how NASA coped with the Van Allen belt...

Flat Earth General / Re: How?
« on: January 16, 2018, 08:03:06 AM »
How do people think that the earth is flat?

Ignorance of basic geophysical and astrophysical sciences.  But more importantly, an ignorance of non-Euclidean geometry:

Flat Earth General / Re: Circumnavigating Antartci
« on: January 16, 2018, 07:55:28 AM »
Please help...  This girl claims to have circumnavigated the Antarctic.   All on her own, in a little boat and all in 184 days. Is this possible? 
Not being a flat earth expert, I would certainly appreciate your opinion.

Of course it's "possible".  And the fact that this woman has just completed the journey proves it.  It's also of note that no FEr has completed a continuous journey along the face of the purported ice wall.

The Lounge / Re: The end
« on: October 28, 2017, 11:31:38 AM »
The Doors were shite.

Jealousy is a curse my friend.

Flat Earth General / Re: Are Flat Earthers Bad in Mathematics?
« on: October 28, 2017, 11:26:26 AM »
Flatters aren't necessarily bad at math, they are AFRAID of math...

Particularly non-Euclidean geometry it would seem.  Which is why they can't comprehend the spherical earth.  Quite funny actually.  Cause and effect?

Flat Earth General / Re: Why do not we feel the world is spinning...?
« on: October 28, 2017, 11:10:51 AM »
Since an aeroplane is constantly changing directions on a round Earth, and so are you and I, I don't see the point in your post.

Technically-speaking, you're correct jroa, but not for the reasons you think.  Commercial aircraft normally follow a "great circle" or orthodrome course due to... wait for it... the sphericity of the planet.  And the fact that they do change course slightly but constantly proves that the earth is NOT flat.  Oh dear.   ;D

An aircraft taking off from (say) 50 03 59N, 005 42 53W and flying to 58 38 38N, 003 04 12W would have an initial bearing of 009° 07' 11", and a final landing bearing of 011° 16' 31" for example.  You can check this out using the haversine formula—which relates to the sides and angles of spherical triangles—if you don't believe this.

Flat Earth General / Re: A different explanation of denpressure?
« on: October 28, 2017, 10:41:01 AM »
I think people need to remember that the nonsensical term "denpressure" was coined by sceptimatic, and was supposed to be some kind of impossible combination of density and pressure.  Funny thing was, despite being asked a thousand times for its unit of measurement, he could never figure one out—which is perfectly understandable LOL.

I'm truly surprised that the term still survives here to this day, considering how totally absurd its concept was—even then.  And I'd be guessing that even sceptimatic himself would be feeling  justifiably embarrassed by it all right now. 

And BTW, you can't "explain" something that doesn't—and can't—exist in the real world.

Flat Earth General / Re: Mandela Effect and Flat Earth
« on: October 28, 2017, 10:28:33 AM »
I don't know if you guys ever looked into Mandela effect if not you really should. Mandela effect has to do with alternate realities, time travel and merging parallel dimensions...

No it doesn't.  It's nothing more than a claim about false memories, like Froot Loops being incorrectly spelled as "Fruit Loops".  Nothing more cerebral than that kind of thing.  I think you need to get out a bit more.

Flat Earth General / Re: muslim guy ask question
« on: October 28, 2017, 10:08:24 AM »

btw god say in quran u can kill only to defend my self like if us invade my country and take my city I can only fight back and not to go in there country and kill innocent ppl like 9-11 and again we all know it's inside job anyway...

What do you mean "we all" know 9/11 was alleged to be an inside job?  I for one don't know that—and why should I believe it to have been?

Can you please give us your reasons for believing it WAS an inside job?  And remember... personal opinions are not considered evidence.

Flat Earth General / Re: Coriolis Effect on Ocean Currents and Winds
« on: October 28, 2017, 09:58:00 AM »
All in a bid to dodge the question. Typical flattard trolls

After a while here, you'll find that the flat earthers will never respond in any sensible manner to legitimate scientific questions posted by roundies.  And if they do, 50% of them will refer you back to a scientifically bankrupt snake-oil salesman by the name of Samuel Birley Rowbotham also known as "Parallax".  It's actually quite funny (sad?) that the so-called "evidence" for a flat earth is 150 years out of date, and that the flat earthers can't produce a single shred of evidence supporting their cause that's less than a century old.  And modern science be damned LOL.

Flat Earth General / Re: Oceans prove Earth isn’t round
« on: October 28, 2017, 09:22:14 AM »
We see the light that's been generated by the Andromeda galaxy that has travelled unimpeded through the vacuum of space. We do not actually see the physical objects in the Andromeda galaxy.

Totally wrong!  Of course we see the Andromeda Galaxy.  In exactly the same way you see the car parked in your driveway.  Put simply—in both cases—our retinas respond to the photons that hit them (which is what to "see" actually entails).  And it's immaterial whether or not those photons come from Andromeda 2.537 million light years away, the sun which is 149.6 million km away, or your car which is 20 metres away.  Regardless of their source, they're all identical photons. Human sight relies on the eye's perception of reflected light.  grade-school science.

Same with any celestial object (except the moon). We see the light they emit but not the object.

Why, particularly, do you make an exception for the moon in your theory?  At any rate, you seem to be a bit confused about astronomical sources of light—only stars "emit" light, whilst planets simply reflect light... from stars in fact.

Flat Earth General / Re: If the earth is flat, then why...
« on: October 28, 2017, 08:59:19 AM »
I love this thread, I really do.  It does show the intelligence level of people on this site, or lack there of.  Especially I love the photo provided showing in incandescent bulb lighting a small portion of a wall.....

LOL... what I find more than funny is that the flat earthers invariably say that all photographic images from NASA or high-altitude aircraft or satellites are bogus, and can't be used as valid evidence in support of a spherical planet.  But in the next breath, they expect us to accept that any/all of the photos the FEs post are legitimate, and should be accepted as honest evidence for whatever they're claiming—like the light-bulb photo.  Pot, meet kettle.

Flat Earth General / Re: If the earth is flat, then why...
« on: October 28, 2017, 08:51:29 AM »
A rough, illustrative example.

Your example fails on one very obvious point.  At one stage of your sun's rotation over the earth, we see both the east coast and the west coast of Australia fully illuminated by the sun's light.  This is factually wrong, as when it's full morning daylight in Sydney, NSW, it's still fully night-time dark in Perth, WA more than 3,200km distant.

This would suggest that the FE sun "spotlight" hypothesis does not work—and cannot work as proposed.

Theoretically, could it be a Jurassic Park full dinosaurs? The dinosaurs on this side of the earth died because a comet struck the earth. However, it does not mean that other side was hit as well. So, does this mean that they are still alive on the other side?

Your question is really a non sequitur.

Before asking us to hypothesise about it, you firstly need to prove that the earth is a flat disk.  This has yet to be done.

Flat Earth General / Re: The Deadly Moon
« on: October 28, 2017, 08:38:01 AM »

Personally, I've not once read any literature in peer-reviewed scientific papers that discusses any such notion.

What else have you not done?

I've also not accepted any of Samuel Rowbotham's claims about his purported flat earth, and I've not given any credence to his poorly-contrived experiments on the Bedford canal.  I've also not flown to the moon to see the earth's total sphericity myself, (but I have seen it from an aircraft at around FL45).

Flat Earth General / Re: muslim guy ask question
« on: October 28, 2017, 08:25:30 AM »
hi guys I am a Muslim I am not 100% religion guys but I believe in quran and
in the quran say the earth is flat not moving...

The Quran was written down around 600CE, long before primitive scholars really knew anything about geophysics or astrophysics, so any alleged scientific claims contained in it have long been disproved—including the notion of a flat earth.  Like the Abrahamic bible, to their writers the earth—obviously as it still does to us today—"looked" flat.  But as we all know, looks can be deceptive.

One needs sophisticated scientific instruments in order to measure what our human eyes fail to discern with any accuracy.

Flat Earth General / Re: My Personal Flat Earth Model
« on: October 28, 2017, 08:13:47 AM »
It's a combination of this and a perspective effect. Do you really need me to explain refraction to you?

Is a poorly detailed, small, hand-drawn illustration that's 150 years old really the best example you've got that explains the mechanics of "disappearing" ships' hulls?  Can you link to any illustrations from the current century that better illustrate this?  I ask simply because science has evolved in major ways since Samuel Rowbotham produced this sketch.  No scientist today would even think to rely on such primitive illustrations to support any legitimate optical theory.

Of course, Rowbotham's major error with this diagram was superimposing first-person "perspective" lines to a vanishing point, on top of a view of a side elevation—rather than from the viewpoint of the observer.  This simple fact makes the diagram nonsensical as valid evidence.

Ultimately, "refraction" has nothing to do with shops' hulls appearing to disappear,  under ideal conditions.  It's simply a word that FEs throw into every pseudo-scientific argument to justify... well... almost anything LOL.  A bit like a convenient deus ex machina maybe?

The Lounge / Re: LeBron James thinks the earth is round
« on: October 27, 2017, 10:09:56 AM »
The funniest part is that you're so desperate to make fun of the FE that you believe the OP is a flat earther.

LOL... not at all.  He's obviously an RE making this comment totally tongue in cheek.  Us roundies appreciate the power of satire doncha know.   :D

The Lounge / Re: Saying goodbye to an old friend
« on: October 27, 2017, 10:03:39 AM »
I know, as an animal lover myself, just how gut-wrenching it can be when the time comes to say goodbye to pets, particularly after such a long a time.  My thoughts are with you Cowgirl... take care. 

The Lounge / Re: LeBron James thinks the earth is round
« on: October 27, 2017, 09:59:47 AM »
The funniest part of this story is of course the fact that the FEs thought they'd found a major believer in their cause.  Unfortunately—but predictably—they didn't understand that LeBron James and  Kyrie Irving were just making a running joke about a "flat earth" and weren't for one second being serious.  Of course the FEs are all so desperate for a respected celebrity to (apparently) support them, they're blinded by that very desperation.  I'm still laughing.

The Lounge / Re: Maryland tag: ITSFLAT
« on: October 27, 2017, 09:33:51 AM »
A flatter cock blocked by GPS, gotta love the irony.

Yeah... I laughed too.  The FEs deny that GPS devices can work, because satellites are a con, but yet this guy lives by one.  Major whoops!   ;D

The Lounge / Re: Revealed chemtrails airports
« on: October 27, 2017, 09:23:45 AM »
to match chemtrail maker airports to the codes of flightradar airports. With this working you can easily follow the airplanes of chemtrails by looking only to true airports...

Uh... did you not see my post immediately above this one of yours?  Did you check out my link?  And if you did, what comments would you like to make about the results of the research totally debunking the notion of "chemtrails"?

The Lounge / Re: One of the best videos of all time!
« on: October 26, 2017, 07:42:57 AM »
Maybe a flat earther who doesn't understand the laws of physics and optics?  And that insane laughter...  Scary.

The Lounge / Re: The most reliable flight radar site
« on: October 26, 2017, 07:36:46 AM »
I want to see your recommendations...

You really need to stop seeing global/corporate/government conspiracies wherever you look.  I recommend that you check out the RationalWiki site HERE for the hows, and whys and wherefores of conspiracy theories...

A conspiracy theory (speculation) is one that attempts to explain an untoward event as being the result of a plot by a covert group or organisation, or the unfounded notion that many important political events or economic and social trends are the products of secret plots that are largely unknown to the general public.

The Lounge / Re: Revealed chemtrails airports
« on: October 26, 2017, 06:57:11 AM »
There exists no such thing as "chemtrails".  What you see behind aircraft are actually contrails which are a visible condensation of water droplets or ice crystals from the atmosphere, occurring in the wake of an aircraft or rocket, under certain conditions.

You can check out what happened when 77 atmospheric scientists actually took a look at the claim that aircraft are spewing out mind-controlling chemicals HERE.  [click link to download and open PDF of their 12-page report].

Flat Earth General / Re: Coriolis Effect on Ocean Currents and Winds
« on: October 26, 2017, 06:21:29 AM »
Would you please kindly direct your attention to the quoted post that I presented and then tell me how I am wrong for calling someone a dumb ass?

LOL... I'm pleased to see that you're still carrying on your practise of totally ignoring any/all relevant questions jroa.  You'd make an excellent politician I'm sure—a true master of obfuscation.  I was actually hoping that you'd maybe address my comments about the Coriolis effect on our planet's winds and oceans—rather than derailing the thread with inconsequential asides.

So... do you have any relevant thoughts on the Coriolis effect?  Or do you think the claims made by geophysicists are bogus, and/or that it doesn't exist at all?

Flat Earth General / Re: A different explanation of denpressure?
« on: October 26, 2017, 06:10:15 AM »
I don't think sceptimatic is trolling... because one cannot just act such a degree of stupidity... Though, I cannot imagine how someone can be so dumb either.

I'm guessing he suffers from the Dunning-Kruger syndrome...

"The Dunning-Kruger effect occurs where people fail to adequately assess their own level of competence—or specifically, their incompetence—at a task, and thus consider themselves much more competent than everyone else. This lack of awareness is attributed to their lower level of competence robbing them of the ability to critically analyse their performance, leading to a significant overestimation of themselves.  In simple words it's "people who are too stupid to know how stupid they are".

And let's face it;  that's sceptimatic (Mr Denpressure) personified LOL.


Flat Earth General / Re: The Deadly Moon
« on: October 26, 2017, 06:01:58 AM »
Moonlight is simply reflected sunlight, and obviously can't cause any harmful conditions in humans  or animals.  The outmoded theories about people going crazy etc during a full moon have long been debunked by psychologists, doctors and nurses, clinical statisticians, and the various police forces.

But where is the fun in that???

LOL... true.  I guess luminescent prawns makes for a far more amusing bed-time story for 3-year-olds.

Suggestions & Concerns / Re: Intikam ISIS signature
« on: October 26, 2017, 05:33:57 AM »
He has had sigs that were pretty bad in the past (memba the swastikas?), but I thought this one was pretty tame in comparison. It just seems more like a joke, and since most people use screen names instead of their real names, I don't really see the harm. 

Well, I for one use my real name, Geoff, and I really live in Victoria in Australia.  I don't really care one way or the other that Intikam has my name in his signature—on his nonsensical IGNORE list.  The guy is obviously a sociopath, or intellectually challenged, or both.   And telling people that they're on one's ignore list—pointless as it is—is sure evidence LOL.

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