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The Lounge / Re: Tropical Storm Nine
« on: Today at 12:15:46 PM »
Hi SCG.  Thanks for asking. We didn't lose power I am happy to say. Glad you are okay, too.

Too bad the storm was so intense with loss of life and property. It looks miserable on TV so being there has to so awful.

We live in a great state but the storms can stay away, please.

Flat Earth Believers / Re: Results of my study
« on: September 29, 2022, 02:19:21 PM »
Just shy of 500 years ago there was a box. The contents could be defined with one word.
The box was small enough to be carried in the human hand. It was originally placed in the hand of the King.

The box was passed, surreptitiously, from one person to another repeatedly.

It arrived and was passed on again as per instruction.

Included here is gracious thanks and recognition for the 16th anniversary of the study, that recently came to fruition.

The Lounge / Re: Tropical Storm Nine
« on: September 24, 2022, 11:03:43 AM »
I can confirm that, SCG. The gas lines are longer earlier in the game than ever.

I think people are feeling panic sooner, or it is more of the inexperienced people moving down to this neck of the woods.

The Lounge / Re: Tropical Storm Nine
« on: September 24, 2022, 06:48:59 AM »
The shelves aren't cleared yet of water and canned goods...but it is only Saturday morning so panic hasn't set in, yet.

The experts say the storm could still shift this way and that like a cruel dancer. Shop early and then shut in and wait...

The Lounge / Re: Hi
« on: September 17, 2022, 11:39:43 AM »
It is half-normal to want to you have now completed the mission and have fully restored that normalcy. Nice!

Flat Earth General / Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
« on: May 30, 2022, 01:37:23 PM »
When it comes to this looming threat, people should listen to the fine advice from SCG.

Those still questioning the necessity of the effort should realize that these substantive disagreements between the parties can't be reduced to somehow a matter of “let's all hold hands and sing Kumbaya.”

It seem Branson & Musk might have too much money at this point so they aren't interested in the Challenge. It they want a little more in their pocket, let's see them join the parade of people entering...

Flat Earth General / Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
« on: May 14, 2022, 04:43:19 PM »
Thank you for the warning SCG! I will be doing a foil wrap just in case.

I am somewhat worried about my new total hip replacement. If I have to run-to-hide, I could be stuck somewhere in harm's way. Good luck, all!

Flat Earth General / Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
« on: March 17, 2022, 03:19:50 PM »
The full moon is arriving so let’s make proper protections, and then use them. It is referred to as the “Worm Moon” by experts because of beetle larvae emerging from the bark of trees.

Do not back-down from your preparations.

I can't believe that I stepped out for a bit and came back only to discover that the Challenge had not been won, yet. First, the one named Mike seemed to have disappeared before collecting his due and not one person from NASA has stepped forward with a winning entry? Do people not need money anymore? Someone out there can win this!

The Lounge / Re: @Gotham
« on: October 27, 2021, 08:19:46 AM »
Hey SCG, Crouton, boydster, All - Mercy, I didn't see this thread until now. Thanks for noticing absence and yes, return. Quite a journey that can all be explained at the yearly convention. I am reading through a-million+1 threads to get caught up and will get back into the good fight. Looks good that those who have a wonder for Earth-shape still make their way to site and you'all have set them straight.  Awesome!

Flat Earth Believers / Re: Results of my study
« on: October 25, 2021, 12:45:17 PM »
Brother bullhorn, so pleased to see the Study continues. That is golden.

I just arrived from a land where clay abounds, and how ironic it warrants mention in the Study. That is golden.

Flat Earth General / Re: Friendly non-believer up for a friendly discussion
« on: December 26, 2018, 12:11:18 PM »
Welcome to the site.

I'm glad you mentioned logic and senses.  They are two of the several factors related to how many become FE. 

Logically, claims made by those who profess a round Earth are not supported by what we know as reality.  Tracking why people still believe the Earth to be round leads back to the real nature of why FEers have bragging rights in the Earth shape dilemma.  Because our evidence is based on truth.

When it comes to our senses providing evidence, there is no question FET towers above RET when collating sensory output with reality.

You can see why "advantage FE" defines the controversy.

To answer the OP we do know that Newton, in particular, was very weak of brain from the time he was a young man, forward.

Experts still argue the level of damage he may have endured and how it effected his statements and output.

What we do know is he was prone to bouts of mood swings where confusing, exaggerated outbursts would be followed by periods of baffling silence.

If he lived today, there would potentially be medication for his malady but in his day he drifted endlessly emitting thoughts. Some seemingly brilliant and some not so.  It is, to this day difficult to surmise if these ideas, former or latter, made sense.


It will be possible, then, to learn from the past mistakes of others to fine tune what will become a winning entry.

No one really knows how many people or groups are ramping up to submit an entry and win the space flight challenge.

Flat Earth Debate / Re: Proofs for the Flat Earth Model?
« on: December 14, 2018, 12:50:24 PM »

Everyone reading this thread has access to the proof of a flat Earth.

Flat Earth General / Re: Please explain
« on: December 14, 2018, 12:33:30 PM »
Science has a hard time rationalizing Earth shape since it can not concur with itself about issues requiring discovering truth through evidence. 

FET does not have this problem so to say the Earth is flat is a true statement if that statement requires evidence. 

RET has a difficult time by over-complicating what is really quite easy.  At least where observation is used to solve an unknown.

Whenever we advise REers to try harder, they dig deeper into their own misconception. 

Pro tip: Take a good hard look at FET physically, philosophically, and intellectually.   

Flat Earth General / Re: Our true position on Earh
« on: December 12, 2018, 01:46:44 PM »
Up and down would get confused on a round Earth.  It makes no sense.

Making sense is one of the hallmarks of FET because it blends common sense with evidence with reality.

Flat Earth General / Re: What are the evidences for flat earth?
« on: December 12, 2018, 01:42:10 PM »
Actually, you don't know if the Earth is spherical or flat.  There is ongoing controversy about this with evidence presented on both sides of the issue. 

The Earth has been considered flat for a much longer time giving REers responsibility of explaining themselves.  There is plenty of evidence out there showing why it is flat.

Flat Earth General / Re: Who Guards the Edge
« on: December 12, 2018, 01:33:10 PM »
Round Earth believers are more than lost attempting to stretch the globe into something that resembles reality. 

Hearing their complaints about our map(s) is very entertaining, considering they use flat maps to navigate with.

Flat Earth General / Re: Who Guards the Edge
« on: December 11, 2018, 02:27:44 PM »
It may appear too easy, but the un-mapped portions of Earth are ones that remain undiscovered.

There is a certain logic here that makes good sense.  That being round Earth believers subscribe to tenets derived from incomplete evidence.  You will see proof that counts and I repeat speaking in the future will see proof that counts. 

Flat Earth General / Re: Who Guards the Edge
« on: December 10, 2018, 08:14:25 PM »
We are still exploring (mapping) the Earth. There is much not known and what we do know leans in the direction of claims made by FEers.


It's starting to look like a possible 2019 winner announcement unless a Challenge submission is already being reviewed. 

It must take some matter of time to judge, contact the winner, arrange for payment, and decide where the ceremony will be held.

Let's hope the genius types are busy with their task.     

Back to the OP and you see a simulator and a mod that can be used to determine requirements proving the human spaceflight Challenge.   

If mikeman failed to complete and submit all criteria required for a win, there must be another specialist capable of supplying the missing data, no?

Contestants, or observers for that matter, can't request payment from the judge until a complete entry is submitted.  For those getting closer to submitting an entry, consider the simulator and mod combo...

Flat Earth Debate / Re: Polaris, a.k.a. the North Star
« on: November 21, 2018, 12:25:24 PM »
The way we observe "stars" is a flat Earth proof.

There are times when visibility is an issue and times when it is not.  This variability when looking up is not where reasonable people look to prove their claims of Earth shape.

Scientists and round Earth believers have a lot to learn about what is visible and what is visible when staring at pages of a book. 

Flat Earth General / Re: Question for FEs
« on: November 18, 2018, 02:12:22 PM »
Measurements within the atmoplane get foggy past a given distance depending on the disturbances within.

It takes a serious cognitive dysfunction to say something like this and actually believe yourself.

I will alert others I know personally (and who agree with my statement) that round Earth believers still doubt our claims.  These FEers include a geologist, a metallurgist, a law professor, a Native American Indian Chief, a hospital administrator, a poet,  and a Holy man.

I hope to add a psychologist to the list before too long...

Flat Earth General / Re: Question for FEs
« on: November 17, 2018, 03:34:24 PM »
Measurements within the atmoplane get foggy past a given distance depending on the disturbances within.

Flat Earth General / Re: Question for FEs
« on: November 17, 2018, 02:35:38 PM »
It is appropriate to answer questions when presented and issues of FE "horizon" can be answered.

"What you see is what you get" (Zetetic). This does answer all three questions.  What we do know is there are anomalies within the atmoplane that disturbs any chance of a standardized response to issues relating to what REers call the "horizon". Motions of the sun viewed through the atmoplane provides for unlimited variations of what we are seeing. 

Flat Earth General / Re: Are ALL beliefs to be respected?
« on: November 16, 2018, 02:48:12 PM »
We hear chatter about the "dumbing down" of society because people are becoming too lazy to exert proper effort to learn.

Here is what will impress:

-Take the time to go down to the marina where people sail out to do their daily fishing.
-walk up to as many boats as possible as they are leaving or returning.
-ask those aboard about Earth shape and why so.
-Discuss the use of globes and flat maps.

This will be much more useful than a simple link could ever deliver.

Living in glass houses and throwing stones about will not get you to your answers.

You Must exert some effort.

Flat Earth General / Re: Are ALL beliefs to be respected?
« on: November 16, 2018, 01:09:40 PM »
The FE side has a long history of Victories over RE.

The round Earth movement, if nothing else, has succeeded in giving birth to the most outrageous collection of unproven claims ever put forth by humankind.  Then, upon condensing these misguided word tokens, they created and have continued to promote their beliefs at most levels of society.

Earth shape remains front and center of so many concerned people that we can predict the inevitability of FET returning as accepted reality for all. 


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