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Flat Earth Debate / Why Space Travel Is Plausible
« on: February 13, 2014, 08:26:59 PM »
According to relativity, when objects move extremely fast they become physically smaller relative to an observer who is not traveling as fast. This means that if a rocket moved fast enough its size would decrease. The moon isn't very big, of course. But if a rocket actually went fast enough to make it to the moon in a short period of time, that rocket would itself end up very small, and the astronauts walking on the surface of the moon would be teeny, tiny little astronauts hopping around.

This would also have interesting implications for the origin of the moon and other planets. It's possible the moon started as an ordinary Earth rock that was accidentally launched into space as a projectile during a dinosaur war millions of years ago. The rock wouldn't have had to travel extremely fast itself but could have been caught in some unusual winds high in the planosphere which deposited it in its current position. (The fact there is only one moon is evidence that a rare phenomenon took place; if the dinosaurs were projecting rocks at each other at high speeds like a rocket the sky would be littered with moons.)   

Why then would the wee astronauts on the moon see a circular Earth? Because the Earth is a disc and they are just wee astronauts high in the sky looking down at a great disc, which would appear the same as an orb directly below would.

When the astronauts returned to Earth, the reverse direction returned them to normal size. They had no reason to suspect they had merely walked on the surface of a prehistoric cannonball.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Flight Paths
« on: February 13, 2014, 07:34:38 PM »
The explanation is Relativity. Time moves at different speeds depending on where it is in reference to the center of the great disc. The flight is straight but the path looks curved RELATIVE to the FE, which is moving at different speeds THROUGH TIME in different locations. This movement through time explains the illusion of a RE-style rotation (the icy wall moves faster than the interior, creating the illusion of movement through space).

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: The creation of the universe
« on: October 24, 2012, 11:18:34 PM »
I meant for a non-religious answer as I believe not all FErs are religious.

Well, religion is the answer. You asked an open question. You received the Truth as an answer, but apparently you didn't want that.

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: The creation of the universe
« on: October 24, 2012, 04:08:35 PM »
is it a scientific forum or a gathering of loonies with ludicrous ideas?

The subject is "creation of the universe". You can't exactly say that this is a subject on which religion has no bearing.

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: The creation of the universe
« on: October 24, 2012, 03:09:13 PM »
interesting theory.
do you agree with Master James that long thought possible dinosaurs still may live beyond Antarctica, in a region "lit" by their own sun?

I don't know about their own sun; I'll have to give that some thought. But yes, I believe the dinosaurs -- or rather their descendants -- dwell beyond the ice wall and that this explains UFO's. UFO's don't come from space, they come from beyond the icy wall and the "aliens" are descendants of the dinosaurs who migrated there.

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: The creation of the universe
« on: October 24, 2012, 02:03:31 PM »
What happened before Genesis?

God existed all alone. God existed because he had the form of a man. But "man" in the Bible means dinosaur, because obviously there is evidence that dinosaurs existed before modern men. So early man must have taken the form of a dinosaur and so must have God. I suppose there is no reason to repaint the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel now, though. Michelangelo did a pretty good job going with what he had to work with. 

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: The creation of the universe
« on: October 24, 2012, 11:26:27 AM »
How could the universe have been created in way that makes the world flat and the celestial boldies "hang" above us?
If the earth and the celestial bodies are suspended with UA, how are the sun and moon circling the earth the way they are? What type of origin of the Universe would make for it to do so?

Try reading Genesis.

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Flat Earth General / Re: Does Rowbotham have a Wiki problem?
« on: October 24, 2012, 11:10:45 AM »
The construction of a skyscraper or modeling the solar system is much simpler with a RET and Newtonian physics.

Why is the construction of a skyscraper simpler using RET?

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: Walking in circles
« on: October 12, 2012, 01:41:52 PM »
It could be an atavism which originated in our dinosaur ancestors at a time before the formation of the ice wall and when land covered The Earth all the way to the edge. A straight walking dinosaur could have been in some trouble back then.

I take it you believe that all the world's oceans were deposited by God in a world wide flood?

I think everyone who isn't an atheist agrees with that.

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: Walking in circles
« on: October 12, 2012, 11:22:59 AM »
It could be an atavism which originated in our dinosaur ancestors at a time before the formation of the ice wall and when land covered The Earth all the way to the edge. A straight walking dinosaur could have been in some trouble back then.

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Here is what really happened.  Surveyors were simply surveying the lake and Dino made up the rest. Geological surveying would play a big part in the oil industry. The surveyors weren't checking to see if the Earth was flat. They were just doing what they are paid to do.  That is why there is no evidence.  There would be no point to take a picture of a surveyors daily job.

Surveyors do the same thing for the mining industry.   

You come the closest to understanding what was going on but keep in mind that Chavez believes in the theory of abiogenic oil, which means a lot of oil may not come from dinosaur bone. The theory is controversial and implies there may be a lot more oil in the ground than thought conventionally. It also implies the geology is different than conventionally understood. Many things are thrown into question and questioning Round Earth theory is the next logical step.  They were willing to try the Bedford Level experiment as an experiment. What I know about the results I know from a friend who worked on it. I witnessed the survey but couldn't "see" the results with my own eyes.

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Flat Earth General / Re: Sunlight right now
« on: October 11, 2012, 05:18:23 PM »
Yeah, if you consider the horizon effect too minor to be noticed.

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Flat Earth General / Re: Sunlight right now
« on: October 11, 2012, 04:23:52 PM »
The problem with RE'ers concept of bendy light is that they would have you believe that the light only bends at the point of interface between two different mediums. In fact, light is always bending.

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Flat Earth General / Re: Sunlight right now
« on: October 11, 2012, 02:28:37 PM »
The Round Earthers only believe in bendy light when it suits them.

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Flat Earth General / Re: Add this to your Flat Earth maps
« on: October 11, 2012, 02:02:59 PM »
Rowbotham showed the world that there is a better method for discovering the truth than the scientific one.

The Scientific Method: Let me see..... uh.... maybe the Earth is round. If the Earth is round, that would predict that the stars swirl around at night. Yep, the stars swirl around at night, ergo: the Earth is round!

The Zetetic Method: Let's measure a stretch of the Earth directly and see if it is round or curved or any other shape. Measurement: the Earth is flat!


Which one of these methods do you think is more likely to lead you to the Truth?

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correct me if I am wrong, but would a team of trained surveyors that have professional training, be better at this sort of thing?

I mean why would you send fire fighter to a burglary when you can send a police man?

 

Part of a team which specializes in subsea engineering did the experiment. I don't know why you people think they would not be competent enough for this. 

Subsea engineers did a bedford level experiment on the surface of a huge lake that has perfectly still water and were sent to do this experiment from an oil rig, but they were also oil workers, who also just so happened to be contracted to do this by the government, and they allowed you to see it while you were working on an unrelated project, but they didn't release any of their findings for peer review, just you?

This is good. Continue on.

Who do you think oil workers are? People standing around physically pumping oil out of the ground? Who do you think contracts anything to get done in Venezuela other than the government of Venezuela?

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correct me if I am wrong, but would a team of trained surveyors that have professional training, be better at this sort of thing?

I mean why would you send fire fighter to a burglary when you can send a police man?

 

Part of a team which specializes in subsea engineering did the experiment. I don't know why you people think they would not be competent enough for this. 

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Flat Earth General / Re: aristotles' evidence
« on: October 11, 2012, 11:13:20 AM »
For the sake of efficiency why don't you also ask every other question already asked on that thread?

I'll take that as a no simply for the fact that you intentionally failed to answer my question. I really think it was a rather simple answer. I find it hard to swallow that one would only be able to see 2.5 miles at ground level, but if you go to the beach you can see ships/boats for many miles off shore.

You can see a large vessel more than 2.5 miles offshore, because you see the top of it, but you can only see a small boat for a few miles.

Tell that to my telescope.

Another Round Earther who lives in an alternate reality.

So now you expect me to believe a telescope can't see more than 2.5 miles at roughly ground level?

You must have a magic telescope which can see beyond the horizon.

If something is sticking up over the horizon, then yes, it can. If I stand on the beach in Connecticut, USA, I can see Long Island across the water with the naked eye. That, by your definition, should not be visible.

No, you are agreeing with me at this point. Of course you can see something looming large over the horizon much further away than something at ground level.

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If you had no official participation in the project, then what were you doing there?

I was a consultant for an unrelated project in the area. Lake Maracaibo is a huge oilfield and the Bedford Level experiment was something some oil workers did on a good weather day at the instruction of one of the captains. Several of the guys working on the project were guys I was working with. They had no problem with my observing, but because it was proprietary I couldn't take pictures. That's typical on Lake Maracaibo jobs whether it has anything to do with the shape of the Earth or not.

Seems rather odd to me to stop work on pumping oil and do a pointless experiment.  An experiment done by someone other than scientists.

When did I say that the experiment was done by someone other than scientists? Do you not consider geologists to be scientists.

Nobody stopped "pumping oil" and if you think that experiment was pointless you are in the wrong place.
Right when you failed to say who did the experiment.
Also: geologists are not well suited for this kind of experiment. So why would the government send them (via the captain of one rig) instead of a dedicated team with the specialty for this type of experiment?

Dude, you make weird assumptions.

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If you had no official participation in the project, then what were you doing there?

I was a consultant for an unrelated project in the area. Lake Maracaibo is a huge oilfield and the Bedford Level experiment was something some oil workers did on a good weather day at the instruction of one of the captains. Several of the guys working on the project were guys I was working with. They had no problem with my observing, but because it was proprietary I couldn't take pictures. That's typical on Lake Maracaibo jobs whether it has anything to do with the shape of the Earth or not.

Seems rather odd to me to stop work on pumping oil and do a pointless experiment.  An experiment done by someone other than scientists.

When did I say that the experiment was done by someone other than scientists? Do you not consider geologists to be scientists.

Nobody stopped "pumping oil" and if you think that experiment was pointless you are in the wrong place.

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Flat Earth General / Re: aristotles' evidence
« on: October 11, 2012, 09:40:47 AM »
For the sake of efficiency why don't you also ask every other question already asked on that thread?

I'll take that as a no simply for the fact that you intentionally failed to answer my question. I really think it was a rather simple answer. I find it hard to swallow that one would only be able to see 2.5 miles at ground level, but if you go to the beach you can see ships/boats for many miles off shore.

You can see a large vessel more than 2.5 miles offshore, because you see the top of it, but you can only see a small boat for a few miles.

Tell that to my telescope.

Another Round Earther who lives in an alternate reality.

So now you expect me to believe a telescope can't see more than 2.5 miles at roughly ground level?

You must have a magic telescope which can see beyond the horizon.

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: Ice Wall Question.
« on: October 10, 2012, 09:39:33 PM »
Where did you get this crazy, messed up, psychotic, theory about Adam and Eve being dinosaurs?

You have a better theory? Let's hear it.

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: Ice Wall Question.
« on: October 10, 2012, 03:38:10 PM »
Everyone believes in the ice of the ice wall. The debate is over whether it is a separate continent known as Antarctica, or whether a wall has been mistaken for a continent. All the known evidence points toward a ring of ice surrounding the Earth. I don't see why there is any reason not to refer to this icy ring around the earth as an ice wall. 

There is also good reason to believe that this ring of ice is not impassable by some creatures. The dinosaurs probably made it safely over the wall and are living on the other side. The best explanation for UFO's is that they come not from up in the air but from a land beyond the ice wall. The freaks who believe in a hollow earth are sadly mistaken in believing that this land is heaven, though. This land is undoubtedly Hell. The best explanation for the great dinosaur migration was that the Devil wanted the dinosaurs to be his demons in Hell.

If you read the Bible and compare it to the fossil record it's pretty obvious that Adam and Eve and Cain and Able and Seth and everyone up until Abraham were not modern people but dinosaurs. Dinosaurs were the old people. But they were wicked and the Devil led them down to Hell through the passage of the Ice Wall.

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Flat Earth General / Re: aristotles' evidence
« on: October 10, 2012, 02:26:03 PM »
For the sake of efficiency why don't you also ask every other question already asked on that thread?

I'll take that as a no simply for the fact that you intentionally failed to answer my question. I really think it was a rather simple answer. I find it hard to swallow that one would only be able to see 2.5 miles at ground level, but if you go to the beach you can see ships/boats for many miles off shore.

You can see a large vessel more than 2.5 miles offshore, because you see the top of it, but you can only see a small boat for a few miles.

Tell that to my telescope.

Another Round Earther who lives in an alternate reality.

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Flat Earth General / Re: aristotles' evidence
« on: October 10, 2012, 01:20:44 PM »
For the sake of efficiency why don't you also ask every other question already asked on that thread?

I'll take that as a no simply for the fact that you intentionally failed to answer my question. I really think it was a rather simple answer. I find it hard to swallow that one would only be able to see 2.5 miles at ground level, but if you go to the beach you can see ships/boats for many miles off shore.

You can see a large vessel more than 2.5 miles offshore, because you see the top of it, but you can only see a small boat for a few miles.

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: Prove it....
« on: October 10, 2012, 02:32:47 AM »
Ask one question at a time. There's an obvious answer for each that doesn't rely on far-fetched Round Earther theories.

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Another teenager trolling the site.

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If you had no official participation in the project, then what were you doing there?

I was a consultant for an unrelated project in the area. Lake Maracaibo is a huge oilfield and the Bedford Level experiment was something some oil workers did on a good weather day at the instruction of one of the captains. Several of the guys working on the project were guys I was working with. They had no problem with my observing, but because it was proprietary I couldn't take pictures. That's typical on Lake Maracaibo jobs whether it has anything to do with the shape of the Earth or not.

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I had no official participation in the project, and no, they wouldn't allow me to take pictures.

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Flat Earth General / Re: aristotles' evidence
« on: October 09, 2012, 02:17:59 PM »
For the sake of efficiency why don't you also ask every other question already asked on that thread?

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