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Your "theory" complete destroys the basic principles of gravitation! Wth were you guys thinking when you decided to believe this bullshit? None of you are scientifically literate and even me, a 16 year old aspiring astrophysicist could destroy any of your arguments...

Well well well! Just look at this ignorant round-earther here to "destroy" our arguments! I pity you for your ignorance. Sixteen and you know it all, eh? LOOK AT THE FAQ! LOOK AT IT! READ OUR FAQ AND EARTH NOT A GLOBE! Then you will have your answer! By the way, an apology and a thank you will suffice for my enlightening you from your dreadful ignorance. As an Earth Shape Agnostic I know all about being open-minded unlke you!

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THE OBAMA IS GOING DOWN!!!


we are gonna shove a boot right up obamas ass as we kick him outta the white house! that new world order schill isnt gonna stop us! how many times have we seen this fascist, marxist, coward bow down before world leaders! he wants america SUBJUGATED to foreigners in the name of his marxist beliefs and will stop at NOTHING to do it! he is a garbage economics leader. well mr prez its time we give you THE BOOT!!!
If you believe America is the greatest nation on Earth then you're going to doom us all.

i never said that! america has been compromised years ago by the new world order. granted obama will be replaced with a new world order schill until more people know of the NWO's existence and its goals! but THE OBAMA is a particularly odious NWO'er. his defeat in an election would be incredibly embarassing!

knock knock! its election time!!!

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THE OBAMA IS GOING DOWN!!!


we are gonna shove a boot right up obamas ass as we kick him outta the white house! that new world order schill isnt gonna stop us! how many times have we seen this fascist, marxist, coward bow down before world leaders! he wants america SUBJUGATED to foreigners in the name of his marxist beliefs and will stop at NOTHING to do it! he is a garbage economics leader. well mr prez its time we give you THE BOOT!!!

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Flat Earth General / Re: Flat Earth Semantics: a guide
« on: October 18, 2011, 04:39:08 AM »
I think we should list here all the stupid semantic arguments used by FE'ers to try and skew discussions. We should number them, so when we see them arise in other threads we can cite the number at them to tell them to stop being a cliche. They then can't use the arguments because they can refer to this list to see if they have been exposed as known trolling. Anyone caught using the arguments listed here is defining themselves as a troll.
I'll start us off with:

#1 "You can't have a straight line on a curved surface"
When we talk about travelling straight on a globe, we mean yaw-free, i.e. without deviation to left or right. You know this is what we mean when we say "straight".

#2 "The burden of proof is on you..."
Burden of proof is entirely meaningless. Each side always claims the other should prove things and it is used only as a get out clause for people who don't want to back their words up.

#3 "It's just a theory, therefore it's not correct", and
#3.1 "Theories cannot be proven"
Firstly, just because something uses the word "theory" to describe it does not automatically mean "doubtful". Just because technically theories can never be proved to 100% certainty does NOT mean it doesn't fit 100% of the data we have available to us.

There are bound to be others, please add them as you think of them. Note this is a list of semantic arguments, i.e. word traps rather than a compendium of silly ideas like moonshramps, bendy light etc. Those are already listed in the FAQ.

Hey! You should just put "hi im a round earthjer who believes everything im told from the internet as well as the pictures posted on the internet. tghanks!!!"

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Flat Earth General / Re: I'm a skeptic (sorry), and I was wondering...
« on: October 18, 2011, 04:38:04 AM »
LMAO those pics prove nothing, at ground level evey planet looks flat....is Mars flat?

http://cache.boston.com/universal/site_graphics/blogs/bigpicture/mars_06_20/mars2.jpg

Seeing how that's a picture from the middle of a US desert, yes.

wtf...that pic is taken from the Phoenix lander..on Mars. Heres more..


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/20/Victoria_Crater%2C_Cape_Verde-Mars.jpg-too big to post pic in forum

that doesn't prove anything!!!! has it ever ocured to you in your lazy work habits that maybe you should quesiton wether the picture itself is valid?! some bunch of guys on the internet gave you that picture and you  believe it!?!?!??! why?!?!?!?!?

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Flat Earth General / Re: Google Maps/Earth Proves a Round Earth
« on: June 29, 2011, 12:02:47 AM »
Google provides images of the Earth to an incredible degree of accuracy.  One can look up their own residence, in most cases, and see a detailed image of their home.  When I look up mine, I can even see my driveway and pool.

Though Google Earth/Maps takes photos from high-altitude planes, they also take them from satellites

Places such as Area 51 and North Korea, both of which appear in Google Maps/Images with incredible detail, could not have been taken from planes (strict no-fly zones).  If they were taken by Satellites, then space flight is wholely possible, which makes pictures from Space, the moonlandings, the Mars landings, etc, all completely valid and credible. 

The Google Earth/Maps also provide images of the round Earth.  They also confirm the RE maps, and since maps of a spherical object cannot be projected onto a flat surface, FET is debunked.

May I ask how you determined that the images of Area 51 and North Korea are "incredibly accurate?"

You got owned... Flat Earth is dead. You are the last of your pathetic kind. The world is round.

ur insults prove your low and base nature. like a serpent crawling on the ground you shie away from logic and reeason! it seems you cant debate so you use insult!!! tell me, smart one (ha!!!!), how do you prove Area 51 and north korea images arent faked! i bet you watch fox news and suck up everything o'reily says like a sponge!!!!!!!

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Flat Earth General / Re: proof that the earth is spherical
« on: June 28, 2011, 07:31:15 AM »
The flat earth society is wrong because for one NASA has proven that the earth is round by space travel and also the discovery of gravity which theorises that One of the effects of mass is that it attracts other mass. For small objects, like a computer, a car, or a building, the force of gravity is tiny. But when you have millions, and even trillions of tones of mass, the effect of the gravity really builds up. All of the forces of mass pull on each other, and it try to create the most efficient shape, a sphere.

If the earth really is flat, then the water level of our ocean will decrease over time and there will be no gravitational pull to keep us on the earth, even if you say the water is in a bowl and gravity is contained by a dome, then in a way that also proves earth is round in a different context. I feel the facts you have presented to me are false, because you suggest that the earth is flat with only theoretical terms and no photographical or practical proof.

The theory that proves earth is round is the gravitational pull which formed the earths shape there is also the fact of the central core of the earth which provides a partial amount of the earth’s heat.

i have seen no evidence of gravity before. if earth is round then why dont people in australia just go FLYING RIGHT OFF?!

im an earth shape agnostoic (ESA) and believe we can never know for sure what shape of earth is.

so convince me that we can no for sure that earth is round and gravity exists. i am told by FE scienstists that earth is flat and constantly goes up.

compare pls

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Flat Earth General / Re: On the Notion of Pharyngula
« on: June 28, 2011, 07:28:32 AM »
PZ MYERS IS SO STUPID!!!!

It just goes to show that anyone who can make snarky comments can be scientist these  days!!!!!

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Flat Earth General / Re: why i oppose moon shrimp
« on: May 09, 2011, 10:26:42 PM »
You should also make a thread telling us why you oppose being intelligent.

hmmmmmm your reading comprehension aint so good! can you please provide a source as to where i have said that i opposed being intelligent? i dont recall saying that so if you could please find it id be happy.

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Flat Earth General / Re: Give me real proof.
« on: May 08, 2011, 01:07:31 PM »
We use the zetetic method, not the scientific method. We believe that the scientific method causes unintentional bias.

this is pure gold. so, the zetetic isn't scientific? so scientific research isn't inquiring, investigating, and proceeding by inquiry or investigation? lol, you really know your stuff

im all about bieng open minded and al that fun stuff. but in all honesty most scientists havent heard of zetetic method. perhaps if they opened there minds and looked into it more they would use it. im not sure about if scientific or zetetic method is right but all i know is that alot of scientists revise there opinions alot and if that looks like flipflopping it reflects poorly on the scientific method!



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Flat Earth General / Re: why i oppose moon shrimp
« on: May 06, 2011, 10:52:38 PM »
If my theory that the moon is made out of some sort of "space cheese" is correct. Then I believe the moon shrimp could be totally plausible. I don't have proof, but, one day I hope to see my theory proved.

you didnt address my concerns!!!!!

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Flat Earth General / why i oppose moon shrimp
« on: May 06, 2011, 10:37:39 PM »
as you all know i am a man of reason. logic is my forte and i take NOTHING wihtout evidence! this means i am very skeptical. you can learn more of my history if you want by looking up my posts on the illuminati and freemasons at bohemian grove who run our gov't.

this skepticism is now making me turn against the FET idea of moonshrimp.

why? because shrimp NEED water. there is no water on the moon. also how would those shrimp have gotten up there? could they fly through space?! perhaps such spacefaring creatures do exist buti have not observed them. i feel FET is wrong on this.

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Flat Earth General / Re: A dozen or more years of FET
« on: May 06, 2011, 10:31:43 PM »
open your minds my RE brothers. I am an ESA and do not know what the truth is (if there is any). but a heaping helping of tolerance and not hatred is what is needed. be open minded and listen maybe you will come to understand how other people will believe rather than being filled with hatred
Do you just pop up whenever the forum has a surprisingly low amount of annoyance?

no i simply come out whenever i see hatred, whenever the hateful seeds of ignorance and people not wanting to have a heaping helping of tolerance are present. there is much anger in you. you should embrace your inner child and understand how much peace you will get by being tolerant and open minded to other opinions.

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Flat Earth General / Re: A dozen or more years of FET
« on: May 05, 2011, 10:57:16 PM »
open your minds my RE brothers. I am an ESA and do not know what the truth is (if there is any). but a heaping helping of tolerance and not hatred is what is needed. be open minded and listen maybe you will come to understand how other people will believe rather than being filled with hatred

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The Lounge / Re: I'm Done
« on: April 25, 2011, 12:38:38 PM »
DONT LEAVE HORATIO! I WASNT  TRYING TO HARRASS YOU! I LOVE YOUR POSTS!

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The Lounge / Re: I'm Done
« on: April 24, 2011, 10:17:49 PM »
DONT LEAVE HORATIO! IM SORRY!

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The Lounge / Re: Regarding bullhorn
« on: April 24, 2011, 10:15:26 PM »
I have not yet found anything of value in bullhorn's "study".


u obviously need to read more then

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as an NWO shill, obama really HASNT been given his birth certificate out to us! I MEAN CMON OSAMMA...ER...I MEAN OBAMA! WHHEES THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE?! IWHATS UP WIHT THE SEVBERAL VERSIONS OF IT?!

as a member of the new world order (NWO) being formed obamai s being caught. hopefully many others will wake up to the bohemian grove conspiracy theory in which obama is a part ofi. he was recruited into it as is a good distraction from conspiracy and what happened is that they coverd up his birth certificate so they could take the white house.

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Flat Earth General / Re: Moonshrimp?
« on: April 24, 2011, 09:53:22 PM »
The moon is not flat. Behold:



so there are space cameras now?! i like how the camera moves around the moon! no way that can be cgi!

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The Lounge / Re: Regarding bullhorn
« on: April 22, 2011, 10:55:59 PM »
as an ESA I must say that your work, bullhorn, is INCREDIBLY VALUABLE and very much appreciated by me! please dont depart!

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: Beyond the Ice wall
« on: April 19, 2011, 05:50:47 PM »
i think that its highly possible other nations may exist beyond the ice wall! perhaps there are geopolitical situations similar or even entirely different to what we have today. i have come to the conclusion that IF the world is flat (remember im an ESA not a flat or round earther) these nations may even be dangerous. i know that there is a satanic conspiracy in charge of our government. mayb they know of these other nations and FEAR them!!!!!!!! therefore keeping us in ignorance is the best way to go about it befcause IF its true then they wouldnt want explorers to go over the wall and past the dark lands so that they could awaken those other nations to us and then we could be invaded!

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: Questions with FE Theory
« on: April 19, 2011, 05:48:21 PM »
*Sorry this should have been in the Q&A forum not the general forum*

Hello, I'm 17 and I just found out about the F.E.S., and I have some questions.

The ice wall is 150 ft tall, what if you fly a plane over it, why is there no evidence of the place outside the wall?

When NASA launches a shuttle, I can see it from my house and watch it on TV at the same time. It shows a live feed of the shuttle going up and in space where you can see the earth, which appears to be round. What is your view on this?

Is there a top to the FE?
What if you keep digging? Is there an end?

Do you believe in space?

What if you go to Europe and call someone thats in the United States and they say its night when its day for you?

Why does the moon have full moons, 1/2 moons ect...

Do you believe in other planets?




lurk moar!!!!!!

ALSO IM GLAD YOUR QUESTIONING!

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Flat Earth General / Re: Wearing Sneakers on the Moon
« on: April 19, 2011, 07:07:42 AM »
*sigh*
If the astronaut were to twist his body a little, that would produce the slanted tread mark.  Back up a few inches and you have an overlapping boot mark.  There, mystery solved.

i doubt that! look ive done construction work in sandy areas and let me tell you something: if you put your sole into the ground even if its twisted it will confrm to the real shape of your shoe. the way that slant is if the sole was MARKED that way!!!!

where is that doofus horatio now?

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Flat Earth General / Re: Wearing Sneakers on the Moon
« on: April 18, 2011, 09:25:56 PM »
horatio is ignoring me! its a shame that he is too brainwashed to see the SLANT in the prints!

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Flat Earth General / Re: Wearing Sneakers on the Moon
« on: April 18, 2011, 02:27:00 PM »
In AS15-86-11670HR there is a sneaker print on the moon.

Seriously, Tom?  ::)

Just a reminder; you consider one word responses like this to be low content posting.

2/=1

Anyway, the print is a bit odd...

Just an overlapping print and/or just the way the dirt settled. Nothing odd about it, unless you're an idiot, to be perfectly frank.

u imbecile. look at the top of the footprint!!!! grooves are slanted down, buddy! its obviously that it IS a different shoe!!! so kicking up some dirt changed the whole sole, huh?! gotchya!!

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Flat Earth General / Re: double standard
« on: April 16, 2011, 08:05:29 PM »
the FES is the most honorable society i have seen in some time

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Flat Earth General / Re: Cocaine found at Kennedy Space Center
« on: March 28, 2011, 05:51:43 PM »
http://blogs.miaminewtimes.com/riptide/2011/03/cocaine_found_at_kennedy_space.php

If NASA were a real space agency they would be hiring straight and narrow engineers and scientists instead of these lowlife cocaine addicts who sit around building fake space ships out of cardboard paper, scotch tape, and assorted junk yard parts.


What makes you think that they are making fake space ships, sure even if they dont go to space they still are launching these ships into the sky regularly, you can see them in Florida at the kennedy space station. They aren't sitting around doing nothing, they are actually developing huge machinces and vehicles only so they can pretend to go to space, no that really doesnt make alot of sense.

the space flights you see are faked. those rockets will most likely fall into the ocean at some point. im not a flat earther (im an earth shape agnostic also referred to as an ESA) and even I know that!!!

As curious as I am as to why you state that "the space flights you see are faked"... it does not seem relevant to this thread's topic at hand: "Cocaine found at Kennedy Space Center"
Gigamonsta doesn't understand stuff like normal people do.

and this is the rudest man on the internet!!!! he talked about how its obvious they are sending space ships up and i said how its obvious that there not!

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Flat Earth General / Re: This site is awesome!
« on: March 28, 2011, 03:36:30 PM »
"i could not be sure of the earth's shape (im an ESA meaning earth shape agnostic)"

What shape do you believe all of the planets and moons within our solar system are?

obviously round. thats not an argument that proves the earth is round though. for all we know the earth could be an infinite plane in space! 

Well I must agree with you there.  The fact that all of the planets, moons and even the Sun in our solar system are spherical, doesn't necessarily prove that the Earth is.  In your opinion, why do you suppose all of those planets and moons are the shape they are?

not sure. still learning.

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Flat Earth General / Re: This site is awesome!
« on: March 28, 2011, 12:33:15 PM »
"i could not be sure of the earth's shape (im an ESA meaning earth shape agnostic)"

What shape do you believe all of the planets and moons within our solar system are?

obviously round. thats not an argument that proves the earth is round though. for all we know the earth could be an infinite plane in space! 

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Flat Earth General / Re: This site is awesome!
« on: March 28, 2011, 10:37:26 AM »

welcome to the site. this place is a fountain of rationalle speech with smart discussions. it helped open my mind.

What did it open your mind to, exactly?
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previously i had known that a sinister conspiracy ruled the US. it had become evident to me (via alex jones and other scholars) that a satanic cult (the illuminati to be exact) were in firm control over our country and there policy decisions ruled our lives. i knew all about how bohemian grove was used to perform satanic sacrifices to the demon owl-god moloch (google it on youtube to watch it). furthermore i also was beginning to come to realize that 9/11 was conspiratorial and that our elections were being rigged. just look at how john kerry and george bush were a part of skull and bones together! the whole 2004 election was a hoax!!!!

but i didnt know how evil the conspiracy was. i now have come to realize that the moon landings never happened and that i could not be sure of the earth's shape (im an ESA meaning earth shape agnostic). i came to realize that i couldnt be completely sure. after all climate gate showed us that global warming was all just a big myth anyways. i now realize that i cant be completely sure of modern science, dont know how far the illuminati have gotten there.

thanks for asking

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