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Tsar Bomba Video


You do, really do realise, that is not the real vide of Tsar Bomba, and is a video made by someone totally random and unrelated to anything, as that is just a video of a random Nuclear bomb going off, and NOT the actual video of Tsar Bomba at all?

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The Lounge / Re: Colombia MO SWAT Raid *WARNING graphic*
« on: May 06, 2010, 06:34:56 AM »
Wow, you can tell the guy was actually nearly crying when he found out they shot his dog...

I just cant believe it, I just lost my dog too. (The vetenarians mixed pain meds and an anti-inflamatorie and some other form of medicine within a 1 day perioud and then mixed it again when her stomach swelled up from her stomach acid being eaten away by another form of pain meds. She eventually died from her liver I believe failing and a mix of other conditions, extremely saddening...died monday.)

But I mean what were they thinking when they shot a -caged- dog? And a CORGI?

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The Lounge / Re: OMFG WE WON!!!
« on: May 06, 2010, 06:28:33 AM »
I'm posting in this quality thread.

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Flat Earth General / Re: Youtube enrages me
« on: May 06, 2010, 06:24:24 AM »
Typical atheists.... completely closed minded know it alls with that condescending tone.  >:(
Invisibility to Visiblity is a really tough arguement. For invisiblity that is.

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: I suggest rewriting the FAQ
« on: May 06, 2010, 06:18:18 AM »
Q: "What is the motive behind this Conspiracy?"

A: Although their main objective can only be speculated upon, the most favored theory is that of financial gain.  In a nutshell, it would be possible in hypothesis to gain more money then loss of money in faking a space program, although there may be other possible motives we are not certain of. (How is this?)

Q: "If you're not sure about the motive, why do you say there is a conspiracy?"

A: Well it's quite simple really; if the Earth is in fact flat, then the space agencies must be lying about the spherical shape of the earth.

Q: "There's no way the government could possibly guard the entire Ice Wall!  It would take too many men!  Millions of men!"

A: Not really. You could do it with a few hundred men and some basic equipment.  But even so there's no reason to assume the Ice Wall is guarded; the harsh conditions of the region make it very difficult to reach anyway. (This just really needs to be removed, this is the worst answer really, and it really makes it seem ridiculous, a few hundred men? This has been disproved.)

BETTER Answer:It doesnt even need to be guarded, the ice wall is like antarctica, the conditions are so severe most of the time that it is impossible to trek there without the required equipment, and the distance after you climb it should probably be too long to trek as well. (Possibly better worded.)

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The Lounge / Re: Prison Island.
« on: May 04, 2010, 12:18:37 PM »
Cape Dissapointment made me lol.

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God told me he was afraid of Chuck Norris.
Chuck Norris told me he was afraid of the most intresting man in the world.

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Flat Earth General / Re: FE'ers don't accept anything
« on: May 04, 2010, 08:29:41 AM »
Atomic theory is just a theory and is accepted as such, a good way of making predictions based on a useful framework rather than an approximation of truth. RET is exactly the same thing a theory, but somewhere along the way people have got confused and started treating it as a descriptiton of the world.
It was a theory until humans went to sp- I'm sorry, until the CONSPIRACY went to space and then it became a law.

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: Questions
« on: May 04, 2010, 08:09:44 AM »
AKA, Newbie FE'er trying to be a senior and knowing everything about FE and being ripped apart by a RE'er who knows more about the FE then him.  ::)

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: Things yet to be explained(Properly) by FET.
« on: May 04, 2010, 08:07:19 AM »
how the round earth could have possibly formed in the first place?!
This works both ways, all ideas of how a round earth was formed are theories, big bang, dust clouds, etc. This theory is just about a flat earth and that it exists, not how it was formed.

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: FET evidence?
« on: May 02, 2010, 04:35:42 PM »
You went from "Do you have proof?" to "They need to not have a stake in the space program" to "I need to be there myself".

Classic case of moving the goalpost.
That's hardly "moving the goal post". The only way to get valid evidence is from a valid source, and I'm the only source I can guarantee is valid.

So, if thats the case. The only way I will ever believe the world is flat is if you sent me into space to see it. See how that works both ways? :|

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: FET evidence?
« on: May 01, 2010, 07:12:08 PM »
They wouldn't be off-topic.  If you manage, somehow, to disprove the roundness of the Earth, you'd do it with evidence for the flatness (or other-shaped-ness) of the Earth, which is exactly what this topic is asking for.  The "I would, but I'm too lazy" thing is rather telling.
RET is not the default, FET is. Also, they have all been addressed. The FAQ, Wiki, and search function will elaborate.
FAQ is broken and those points explicitly are going agaisnt the FAQ. Wiki is not a proper source to disprove said questions and doesnt even ansewer them fully or at all and using a source from this site is pretty much going to show you have no other evidence but your own to disrpove them. And the Search function brought up topics that went unansewered. So please, elaborate us.

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Maximohondoom it's not that the way we build our language governs the laws of the universe, it's that the way the universe is defines our language, by introspecting our language we can derive the state of the world, and by determining the necessary state of certain words such as "earth" we can determine the necessary state of reality. The word earth clearly must refer to the sum total of all the flat planes we experience because no human can possibly see this so-called round earth as a round object or even as a sum of cureved objects because from the point of human reference the theory itself states that you will still refer to something which is flat, so the theory itself is flawwed.

On the subject of theories, no theory is designed so as to correspond to reality they are just designed to have the greatest predictive power, i'm not saying that RET doesn't have good predictive power or even that it's a bad theory, i'm just saying it is a flawwed representation of the world, and people seem to keep confusing a theory with how the world actually is, the world actually is flat and it is good to see a website like this trying to adapt the superior FET to have the same predictive power as RET.

As for Mr Psudonym, if the best contribution you can make to a thread is to comment on spelling you might want to consider not making any contribution at all.
First off, I wont even bother disproving your logic because it has almost nothing to do with the actual shape of earth, and he wasnt actually insulting your spelling. He was insulting what you understood about your post AND your logic.

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The Lounge / Re: Muslims astound me.
« on: May 01, 2010, 06:58:23 AM »
All facial coverings, including hair should be banned. You hear me muggsy. You. Hear. Me?

Why exactly would you do that? It can limit and sometimes destroy individuality along with freedom of expression and religion just like it said in the article.
Welcome to the internet, try to difference sarcasm/trolling/ and honesty in text.
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Flat Earth General / Re: NASA fails again
« on: May 01, 2010, 06:52:43 AM »
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/international/nasa_space_balloon_crashes_into_5kvJhMOJ0NNuQWuPReyxzK

I'd like to point out that it is a NASA sponsored balloon and not a NASA launched one.  Big difference.

But even so, yes it crashed.  But you know what?  People crash their cars.  Does that mean everyone is a failure at driving?

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: Things yet to be explained(Properly) by FET.
« on: May 01, 2010, 06:41:10 AM »
You should try to find each topic of the specific problem and add a link to each problem, sort of like what you did for the ISS. That way its eaiser for them to see what to explain, how to explain it. Or for them to realize they really are wrong.

GPS Link 1: http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=38638.0

GPS link 2 *I prefer this one*: http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=36546.0

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Everytime someone says the radiation left over on Hiroshima and Nagasaki would make it uninhabitable it makes me cringe, the radiation levels are far smaller then bombs today have. The reason being is those were some of the first bombs ever made, we learned alot from those two drops and the simple fact that people use this poor logic when they dont even beleive in missles makes me cringe even more. Do your research on the -inside- first before you begin spouting nonsense.

Not to mention: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsar_Bomba

Mostly this part right here, The original U.S. estimate of the yield was 57 Mt, but since 1991 all Russian sources have stated its yield as 50 Mt. Khrushchev warned in a filmed speech to the Communist Parliament of the existence of a 100 Mt bomb (technically the design was capable of this yield). The fireball touched the ground[dubious – discuss], reached nearly as high as the altitude of the release plane and was seen and felt almost 1,000 kilometres (620 mi) from ground zero. The heat from the explosion could have caused third degree burns 100 km (62 miles) away from ground zero. The subsequent mushroom cloud was about 64 kilometres (40 mi) high (nearly seven times the height of Mount Everest), which meant that the cloud was well inside the Mesosphere when it peaked. The base of the cloud was 40 kilometres (25 mi) wide. The explosion could be seen and felt in Finland[citation needed] , breaking windows there and in Sweden.[citation needed] Atmospheric focusing caused blast damage up to 1,000 kilometres (620 mi) away. The seismic shock created by the detonation was measurable even on its third passage around the Earth.[6] Its seismic body wave magnitude was about 5 to 5.25.[7] The energy yield was around 7.1 on the Richter scale but, since the bomb was detonated in air rather than underground, most of the energy was not converted to seismic waves.

You can click on each reference site link on the article, full proof and full evidence. I bid ye, a good day.

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Flat Earth General / Re: You Guys Need Your Own Show
« on: April 30, 2010, 07:38:41 PM »
I dont want to be naked. :|

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Proof the Moon is not a flat disc.
« on: April 30, 2010, 07:37:07 PM »
Rainwater comes from the ocean, algae can be green black and red (and rarely others, most commonly red and green.)

I can tell you (I have photos of my fish tank with the water sometimes turning green from the algae) that rainwater CAN have algae in it to turn red/etc. Hell, water spouts have caused it to rain FISH deep inland and it is recognized that waterspouts cause this, just as absorbed algae in moisture in clouds can cause it to rain red or green rainwater. Do fish come from the moon!?

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: Flat Earth Question
« on: April 30, 2010, 07:26:47 PM »
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I'm basing my questions on what I've read in a few other posts.
In one, a man asked "What about all the people that have sailed around the world? Or flown in an airplane?" I shocked somebody answered "Well as for the people that sailed around the world, they lied, of course. And the people that have flown in planes are all a part of the conspiracy, including the pilots as well."
I may have not gotten it word for word but go look it up. Frankly its disturbing, people are so wrapped up in paranoia of conspiracies.
I saw that post, and the fellow who said it was a round earther making fun of flat earthers. Try to be able to tell sarcasm from seriousness, its hard to do. (Especially if your new.) To tell who is who. Everyone who has so far posted in this thread (Including me.) is a Round Earther.

And hell, no one knew I was 15 until I actually got into the site, I believe one person didn't believe me but I think they were not believing me in the rude way and not the "You can spell that well at that age?" way.

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Interestingly, if you read 'the very hungry caterpillar' backwards it's a story about a bulimic butterfly.

(If you read the Bible backwards it's the story of Jesus who came down to Earth, died in a cave, had his corpse hung from a cross until some kind Romans healed the wounds with their magic spears and whips. Jesus toured the Holy Lands getting fewer and fewer followers as he performed all sorts of mean tricks like blinding a sighted person, spreading leprosy, turning wine into water and killing Lazarus before 3 wise men came and stole his presents.)
If you watch porn in reverse... its still pretty much the same. It just... starts with the penis acting more like a vacuum than a hose.
Fascinating.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: 9-11 conspiracy
« on: April 30, 2010, 07:46:02 AM »
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And if the scientific data in those baffles you....here is one that is probably more your speed.

http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=911_morons

I lol'ed at that site. Says it perfectly.

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MMA class, probally another punch in the jaw for the lulz.

Maybe some shoulder snapping... :(

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Flat Earth General / Re: You Guys Need Your Own Show
« on: April 30, 2010, 05:40:27 AM »
In all extreme seriousness. Some seriously screwed up conspiracy theories really DO get on History and Discovery channel, you guys could actually make some money if you put your claims up there and evidence. It may actually really work, something like this would get good ratings just because its such a huge theory etc.

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: Antimoon?!?!?!
« on: April 30, 2010, 05:37:25 AM »
5. The Antimoon can be shown to exist by the phenomenon of daytime Lunar eclipses. The globularist model requirse that the Sun be "behind" the Round Earth from the perspective of the observer, so that the Earth blocks the Sun's rays. This ought to preclude the two bodies being in the same hemisphere simultaneously, although empirical evidence demonstrates that they are. Therefore, another celestial body is blocking Lunar visibility from Earth during an eclipse.

Any pictures or links to back this up?
How come it's undetectable, even to scientists that have no place in the conspiracy that would have seen this phenomenon.

Daylight Lunar eclipses are well-documented, many have occured throughout history. The 19th Century geographer and astronomer Dr. McCulloch recorded two incidences, one in his own lifetime (in 1837) and one in 1717. The Daily Telegraph reported a daytime lunar eclipse on July 16th, 1870. They occur on a fairly regular basis.

One more.  Why has it never been observed in the daylight?  We see the moon during the day all the time.  Why not the anitmoon? 

It has never been observed in the daylight (except during Lunar eclipses!) because it does not emit its own light, like the Moon does. For this reason it is only visible when it passes in front of the Moon.

Also, here's where I'm going to shoot a giant hole in your little piece of BS here.  See, if there were two objects in the sky during an eclipse, an event that is frequently observed and photographed, then people would see two objects.  Especially since the FE model says that the moon is 3000 miles above the Earth, that puts the "antimoon" at a lower altitude.  If you don't believe that people would see two objects, try this.  Put an object of your choosing on a table, if you don't own a table, just use your floor.  Now, put another object of similar size and shape in front of the first one.  Now, look at them from different angles.  You'll notice, at some point, you can even see in between the two.  Since an object floating in front of the moon, has NEVER been documented, your antimoon is nothing more than a figment of your imagination.

People do see two objects. This is precisely why the Moon becomes invisible during a Lunar eclipse.

How come this is the only crap I found? http://www.trivalleystargazers.org/gert/sunset_mooneclipse/sun_moon_eclipse.htm Which looks pretty suspicious. And thanks for giving us like, 2 references to Daytime Lunar Eclipses.
Do you not trust those?
That last link is actually legit looking but as we said, Lunar Eclipses are possible during sunrise and sunset which is what those pics were taken that.

Also, the reason this is viewable at daytime is even on the website itself. :|

"The more the closer the object is to the horizon. At the time of sunset the solar disk is lifted about 30arc minutes (about it's own diameter). Also if one observes from a very high mountain the apparent horizon is somewhat lower as we observe a bit around the curvature of the earth. "

Website:http://www.trivalleystargazers.org/gert/sunset_mooneclipse/sun_moon_eclipse.htm

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Flat Earth General / Re: Holes in RET - Post them FEers
« on: April 29, 2010, 04:22:23 PM »
Quite, I wouldnt be surprised if it was in fact Round Earthers. For now I need to go eat my dinner as I'm starving.

Be back sometime later, hm?

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Flat Earth General / Re: Holes in RET - Post them FEers
« on: April 29, 2010, 04:06:53 PM »

2.There is no Conspiracy they dont harass anyone.

They have harassed me extensively.
I have had similar experiences.  Again, I tend to like to think that it was all a coincidence and honest mistakes, but it gets harder and harder to believe it as the evidence racks up.
If you could please define who exactly harassed you and how they did. It could, for all we know. Have been pranksters that tried to scare you. Its not uncommon with you two's wild views on earth and science.

James, I wont even touch the rest of your post as Markjo and Crustinator did well enough.

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Flat Earth General / Re: Holes in RET - Post them FEers
« on: April 29, 2010, 02:58:38 PM »
If the Earth is round, how can a lunar eclipse occur in broad day light?

If the Earth is round, why does the Conspiracy harass everyone who tries to investigate it?

If the Earth is round, why was John Davis not allowed inland into Antarctica?

If the Earth is round, which way is up?
1.There are no Lunar Eclipses in broad daylight. I have not seen one, I have seen no reports. And alot of investigation today brought no evidence.

2.There is no Conspiracy they dont harass anyone.

3.Probally because there was a scientific research being done or he never went there.

4.This is the stupidest of them all but there is no 'up' technically gravity keeps us all in place and up is anywhere above your head.

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Flat Earth General / Re: Holes in RET - Post them FEers
« on: April 29, 2010, 02:41:09 PM »
I just put the current list up on the first post. 

I don't agree that any of them break or even have a problem with Round Earth Theory but hey, whatever you say.
Its not that NASA hasnt gone to mars, we have, rovers. Its that HUMANS appearantly werent sent to mars.

I'm just saying that were RE true, space travel would be a lot easier than they seem to be finding it.
It is, its just we -dont have the funding-.

If NASA had continous non-stop funding with at least 5-6 billion a month they would do everything you've stated. But they dont have that much. At most they have 5-6 billion a year. (Estimation.)

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Flat Earth General / Re: Holes in RET - Post them FEers
« on: April 29, 2010, 01:42:25 PM »
I just put the current list up on the first post. 

I don't agree that any of them break or even have a problem with Round Earth Theory but hey, whatever you say.
Its not that NASA hasnt gone to mars, we have, rovers. Its that HUMANS appearantly werent sent to mars.

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