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Flat Earth Q&A / a couple of arguments
« on: May 25, 2006, 02:17:31 PM »
You retard.

If I turn along the equator to face due east and maintain that heading, then I am walking in a straight line. In your flat fantasy world if you face due east at the equator and maintain that heading you would be walking in a circle, just like your logic. To walk in a straight line on a flat earth the compass bearing would continually be changing.

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Flat Earth Q&A / How 'bout this one...
« on: May 25, 2006, 02:09:02 PM »
I guess that could make sense for the northern hemisphere but please explain how the southern polar region along what FEer's call the ice wall, which per the FAQ has a circumference of 78225 miles, can experience 6 months of constant sunshine. The entire circumference. Please explain this to me...

And no one has answered my question about the North Star...

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Flat Earth Q&A / a couple of arguments
« on: May 25, 2006, 02:06:50 PM »
What happens in the real world is that when I turn to the left the first time I am indeed facing due east and if I travel due east along the equator and turn 90 degrees to the left again I indeed end up facing back at the North Pole. This would be impossible if the earth is flat. And don’t give me any have you ever actually done it BS.

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Flat Earth Q&A / How 'bout this one...
« on: May 25, 2006, 12:40:28 PM »
Please elaborate.

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Flat Earth Q&A / How 'bout this one...
« on: May 25, 2006, 08:51:01 AM »
Could someone also explain to me why, as I travel south from the North Pole _anywhere_ in the world the North Star sinks lower and lower in the sky until finally, as I cross the equator, it drops below the horizon? I mean if it is fixed in the sky above the north pole and the world is flat then I should be able to see it from anywhere in the world, right?

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Flat Earth Q&A / How 'bout this one...
« on: May 25, 2006, 08:35:25 AM »
Nothing yet huh?

Come on guys don’t let me down.

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Flat Earth Q&A / How does sunset happen?
« on: May 25, 2006, 08:30:33 AM »
Quote from: "FAQ"
Q: "Please explain sunrises/sunsets."

A: It's a perspective effect. Really, the sun is just getting farther away; it looks like it disappears because everything gets smaller and eventually disappears as it gets farther away.


Ok, as a perspective effect things get smaller as they get farther away, true. But explain why as the sun approaches the horizon it appears to get larger?

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Flat Earth Q&A / How does sunset happen?
« on: May 25, 2006, 08:26:27 AM »
If the flat earth model were correct then the sun would never approach the horizon. It would remain suspended in the sky and be eclipsed by the "spotlight” lampshade. So:

If FEer's assume that the sun is a spotlight and never "touches" the horizon, but:
We OBSERVE that the sun does indeed "touch" the horizon then:
The sun is not a spotlight and FEer's are retarded.

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Technology, Science & Alt Science / Re: Creation of the Universe
« on: May 25, 2006, 07:19:28 AM »
Quote from: "Demosthenes"
so there is only a set number of protons, neutrons, and electrons.


Actually they have broken these down into even smaller particles and have proved that matter can and does spontaneously manifest and disappear in a vacuum, give me a minute and I’ll find a link.

Quote from: "Demosthenes"
Matter: anyhting with a volume and mass

Anti: opposite

Anti-matter: anything that has no mass and takes up no space


Now we're just getting into semantics. Antimatter has the same atomic structure as matter but with opposite nuclear charges.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antimatter

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Flat Earth Q&A / How 'bout this one...
« on: May 25, 2006, 06:41:16 AM »
If the sun is on a fixed path rotating above the equator then why to the poles each experience 6 months of sunlight/twilight?

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Quote from: "Anonymous"
some argue that it was fake because the flag was blowing...riiight. It wasn't he had just been twirling it into the ground. It's called inertia. Also, there's a pole holding it up..


Actually the engineers who headed up the project knew that there would be no wind in space and that a fabric flag would be far to weak to stand up to the extreme temperatures of the unhindered light of the sun so the flag was made out of a sheet of metal, warped to make it look like it was blowing in the wind.

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: A Test to See if the Earth is Flat
« on: May 25, 2006, 05:43:09 AM »
Quote from: "Erasmus"
Quote from: "Crimson808"
Here's a test that one could do to find out if the Earth is flat.

Start on the edge of a continent, and sail outwards, or towards the so called "edge" of the earth.  If the world is flat, couldn't you sail right off of it, or at least see the gigantic "ice-wall"?  I'd like to see someone who believes in the flat earth theory actually partake in this trip.


That test is good, but impractical.  We'd like tests that we can do in our own homes (ideally), or barring that, one that doesn't require more than a short drive or hike.

That's not because we're lazy -- okay, it's not entirely because we're lazy.  The real reason is that we want to be able to give anybody at all a description of the experiment so that they can check for themselves.

If somebody performed the sailing experiment and came back saying, "I did it, there was no ice wall," then everybody could just complain that he's lying or crazy or made a mistake someplace, and while that guy would know, he would fail to convince everybody.  However, if we had some test that everybody could perform, right now, and get the results right away (or maybe in a couple of days, as in the torsion balance experiment), that would really be ideal.

-Erasmus


That’s simply ridiculous. That’s like me saying that I’ve never known anybody who had AIDS, therefore AIDS doesn't exist. You’re trying to justify a globe spanning theory with backyard research. It just won’t work.

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Flat Earth Q&A / a couple of arguments
« on: May 25, 2006, 05:35:24 AM »
Quote from: "Demosthenes"
Another problem with the accleration of 9.8m/s is that once you reached the speed of light squared you become energy

E=mc2

Energy is equal to matter times the constant of light to the second power

We would be a giant nuclear explosion


Yeah I know about relativity and all that, i just wanted to see if any FEer's would pick up the glove.

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: a couple of arguments
« on: May 25, 2006, 05:25:21 AM »
Quote from: "Unimportant"
Quote from: "Rejected"
Also, if I am at the North pole or whatever you FEers call it and travel due south until I reach the equator, then turn 90 degrees to the left travel the same distance as I traveled from the north pole to the equator and then turned another 90 degrees to the left I am facing due north? Shouldn’t I be out in the middle of the ocean somewhere facing the ice wall?

I'm not sure what you mean here. If you walked due south from the center of the earth to the equator, then walked due east for a few thousand miles, then turned 90 degrees to the left, yes you would be facing the north pole again.


I didn't say walk due east along the equator. I said turn 90 degrees to the left, then walk that same distance in a straight line, not along the arc of the equator. You see on a sphere I would be walking along the equator but on a pancake I would only start out on the equator, then I would travel in a tangential line off of it out into the ocean. Get a pencil and paper and draw it out.

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Flat Earth Q&A / a couple of arguments
« on: May 24, 2006, 01:37:25 PM »
so the ball ceases to accelerate...

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Flat Earth Q&A / a couple of arguments
« on: May 24, 2006, 01:34:51 PM »
Quote from: "TheEngineer"
Learn your physics before you start ranting.  I am not a FE'er, but I am an engineer and I know my physics...

FE'ers believe that the earth is ACCELERATING at a constant 9.8 m/s^2.  This is not a SPEED, it is an ACCELERATION!


and we haven't reached any kind of terminal velocity yet?
how long would it take to reach the speed of light at 9.8 m/m^2? (i dont have a calculator handy. )
and how old is the earth by comparison (iv'e always held 4.8 billions years to sound about right, im not sure about FEers

and calm down, i know the difference between speed, velocity and accceleration.

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Flat Earth Q&A / a couple of arguments
« on: May 24, 2006, 12:58:31 PM »
If given that
1. The earth is moving up at a fixed speed (9.8 m/s)
2. Objects in motion tend to stay in motion until aced upon by an outside force

Then explain why when I hold a ball at arms length in front of me (since I am on the earth and the bell is in my hand then we are both traveling at the same speed as the earth) and then drop the ball it falls to the ground. No force was applied to the ball... WHY did it fall? And don’t say "the air pushed it to the ground" be cause the air would also be moving at the same speed of the earth, and I don’t hear any constant "whoosh" of the air blowing straight down.

Also, if I am at the North pole or whatever you FEers call it and travel due south until I reach the equator, then turn 90 degrees to the left travel the same distance as I traveled from the north pole to the equator and then turned another 90 degrees to the left I am facing due north? Shouldn’t I be out in the middle of the ocean somewhere facing the ice wall?

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