Good morning, it'll be sunrise soon. Rise and shine.
First things first. Don't sit there and tell me to search for your answers. If you don't know them, don't debate me and admit you've lost before it even starts. You are the self proclaimed expert, you give the answers. If we were to meet at a live debate I would expect you to have the answers to my questions just as you should expect the same of me. I don't require an original essay, cut and paste is fine with me. That said, I shall begin.
Why do I see a distinct curve to an oceans horizon when I'm at even a modest altitude in an aircraft?
The horizon has to curve to form a circle around you. If it wasn't curved, the Earth would appear rectangular.
Wrong, get your geometry right. If the Earth were flat, it would appear flat at any altitude. But, because it's round, the curve appears to increase at higher altitudes. I've seen it, don't tell me I haven't
Why doesn't the sun and moons sizes change due to perspective as they get farther or closer?
Due to bendy light, you are not seeing a perfect image of the Sun. Rather, the light bends around to make it appear larger, circular and lower in the sky than would be expected.
This sounds more like a band aid to make something fit. Saying that it's a second form of light that makes the Sun look farther or closer than it is is akin to the Ancient Greeks using epicycles to explain retrograde motion of the planets. What is Bendy Light? No one can answer. All I get is “search”. I'm not here to search, I'm here to debate. You tell me the physics of this Bendy Light, I can tell you the physics of normal light, afford me the same courtesy.
Why does a ship disappear below the horizon as it's distance increases?
Search for Electromagnetic Accelerator. This has been covered many times before.
I know what an electromagnetic accelerator is, it's closely related to a rail gun. What does this have to do with a ship going over the horizon? Again, you're the expert, you tell me how they're related.
If satellite TV were received from huge towers, where are they? How tall would they have to be if my SATV dish is aimed about 56 degrees above the South South East? Let me answer that, I live in Lancaster Ca, that means it would have to be in the direction of Fontana. If it were ten miles away it would be in Four Points and about 12 miles high. I... don't... see any huge towers of any size to the South South East.
If it were twelve miles high, it would have to be more than ten miles away. Also, they are stratellites, not towers.
Don't split hairs, you know as well as I do it was only an example. I was told by the other participant that large towers of undisclosed locations were the source of SATV signals. Now you tell me it's “stratellites”. Okay, stratellites is it? How far up are these stratellites where are they located? How come a Dish Network antenna in Phoenix Az is aimed in almost exactly the same point on the celestial equator as one here in Lancaster? What are those specks of light I see in the sky with my astronomical telescope at the locations the geosynchronous satellites should be in?
Why aren't the SATV dishes in other locations aimed in all different directions at their respective “towers” instead of at the satellites along the Celestial Equator?
Again, stratellites. They can be high enough to emulate the positioning of geostationary satellites orbiting a round Earth.
So, you are saying they're 22,000 miles out? You can't have it both ways, are they satellites or stratellites. You cannot emulate 22,000 miles, it either is or is not. Not only that, how do they keep those stratellites in place? It seems to me that would require a rather large expenditure of fuel.
I also happen to be an Amateur Radio operator. How come if I aim my directional antenna array using the “Flat earth Route” I can't make contact with a target station in Europe, but if I use the Great Circle route I can?
Have you personally confirmed this?
Oh, let me see, Flat Earth route, no contact, Great Circle route, contact.
WHAT THE HELL DO YOU THINK!
To what end? Money does not count, it would cost more money to perpetuate a hoax of this magnitude than would be made from it.
Wrong. Search.
I told you, don't pass your responsibility to participate in a debate to somebody else. At the very least cut and paste your information. Face it, to run a hoax of this magnitude would take epic amounts of resources and money.
How would the secret be kept? With this many people involved, wouldn't somebody at least “slip”, say after a drink or two at a party?
Not very many people would need to be involved. Search.
No, you search and provide the proof, you would have to in person, do it here. Not very many people, huh? Like who? The entire workforce at NASA? The entire federal government? The government contractors? The governments of Russia, China, France, Spain, Germany and on and on? Don't you think somebody would've spilled their guts somewhere?
How would almost 80,000 miles of Ice Wall be guarded? The exact tactics were not covered in the FAQ.
How do you expect us to know the exact tactics? It wouldn't be a very good conspiracy if we knew their every move.
How the hell would I know? You're the expert, you tell me how they'd pull it off. The only conclusion I can come to is, you're wrong. You want to know how to make it work? Easy, remove the conspiracy theory and say the Earth is a sphere. Problem solved.
Citing my mention of antenna headings above, does this mean that I and every other Amateur Radio operator and CBer with a directional antenna array is in on the conspiracy?
No.
Well, I can say you got one item correct. Of course, it didn't involve pseudoscience and conspiracies, but, the thread is young. Even this could change.
Don't think that you're the first person ever to ask these questions, either. People come here all the time thinking they can single-handedly disprove FET, you're just the most recent.
Parish the thought, I would never execute such a transgression. The difference between their scientific proof and mine is direct, visual evidence that anyone can see for themselves, without searching some forum for the answers. The fact is, a spherical Earth eliminates:
A second form of ambiguous light that defies physics, Bendy Light
A splotlight for the Sun
A disk for a moon
Ice walls with their hordes of black helicopters
Stratellites and huge fuel expenditures (No one agrees on this)
Thousands, maybe millions of extremely tall hard to hide radio towers (No one agrees on this, either)
Bloated, unexplainable conspiracies involving a cast of millions.
It explains and gives us:
The reason I need to use a Great Circle route to make many contacts on the air
The curvature of the horizon as seen from altitude
A rising Sun without ambiguous explanations
A setting Sun without ambiguous explanations
The faces and eclipses of the moon without ambiguous explanations
A Solar eclipse and sunspots without, you guessed it, ambiguous explanations
A simple and fascinating explanation as to what the Sun and stars are and how they work
A simple and fascinating explanation as to what the Moon and planets are
A really cool place to hang geosynchronous satellites
An equally cool place to orbit GPS satellites
A bitchin' geomagnetic field so if my GPS fails I can use a compass
It also protects us from the nastiest forms of radiation from space
Retrograde motion of the other planets
An ionosphere so I can talk to people all over the world using HF radio instead of a boring cell phone
Beautiful stars, planets, galaxies and nebula to look at in my telescope
A wonderful view of the ISS when it passes over my town in my aforementioned telescope
And the best part, no conspiracies
Tell me, can your flat Earth do all that cool stuff? No, but my spherical one can. And it does it all, no fuss, no muss and no ambiguity with, like I said, “Simple Elegance”.
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