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You cannot "prove" anything, except the "I think, therefore I am" assertion from Kant, but you can show overwhelming scientific evidence towards a spherical Earth.

So where's your evidence?

You have yet to refute any of the evidence ever posted for Round Earth on the entire website, so I suggest you start with that.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Proof!!!
« on: October 30, 2008, 09:30:52 PM »
Why did the hardest part to refute get skipped over, I'd like to hear what law of physics gets made up to explain pendulums...

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Cape Kennedy
« on: October 30, 2008, 09:13:57 PM »
The thread worked well, you've admitted that shuttles launched and have had to invent yet more science and technologies to deal with this revelation, Occam's Razor folks, Occam's Razor.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Cape Kennedy
« on: October 28, 2008, 04:13:20 PM »
Proof that the Earth is round, I have been around the earth and you cannot prove I have not, therefore the earth is round.

Well, I guess you can shut down these forums now since that's settled.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Cape Kennedy
« on: October 28, 2008, 03:46:32 PM »
Seriously, if NASA is projecting holograms into the sky, they would need a huge worldwide network of "holographic projectors" to cover all visible satellites, shuttles, the ISS etc. simultaneously. Before you ask: no, I'm pretty sure there are no sky-hologram projectors in my neighborhood.

Have you confirmed this? That is to say, have you scouted every square metre of your neighbourhood and made sure that nothing is projecting a hologram into the sky?

Not to mention whenever a cloud passes overhead the hologram would be projected onto the cloud.  Like Batman's symbol.   ::)

They actively monitor the weather, and switch off or dim the holograms as clouds pass by.

You know making shit up as you go along is detrimental to your argument...Occam's Razor, the simplest reason is usually always right, but you have to run around and around and make up new laws of physics, conspiracies, technologies, and utter bullshit for your theory.  It's wrong.  Get yourself a paradigm shift.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Cape Kennedy
« on: October 28, 2008, 09:32:35 AM »
There's nothing about Flat Earth Theory which prevents space travel. Under FE, the moon and stars are satellites which orbit above the earth on a circular path. FE Theory explains why this is possible (cancelation of the DE by the DEF or some guff like that). There's nothing to prevent a man made object (satellite, shuttle etc) doing the same.

FAQ says: "orbit is impossible"

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Cape Kennedy
« on: October 27, 2008, 10:37:00 PM »
Prove it?  Oh, no wait...

As soon as you're out of atmosphere your fuel consumption goes down to almost nothing, and you ever notice that they drop a huge part of the shuttle off after launch, you know what that carried? Fuel.  Because the initial take off takes almost more fuel than the rest of the trip combined.

So, um, don't make jackshit claims.

Don't apply your RE propaganda to FET and then talk to me like I'm the idiot. You can't orbit anything in FET, which means to stay in space you need constant propulsion to stop falling back to Earth.

You're begging the question, it's a logical fallacy.  You can't use parts of your theory to prove your theory, that's like saying "The bible is true because it says it is" Or a simpler version  "I am always right because I am always right".  You're wrong, your whole theory is based on circular logic.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Cape Kennedy
« on: October 27, 2008, 09:54:18 PM »
Stay out of my thread troll.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Cape Kennedy
« on: October 27, 2008, 09:45:04 PM »
Prove it?  Oh, no wait...

As soon as you're out of atmosphere your fuel consumption goes down to almost nothing, and you ever notice that they drop a huge part of the shuttle off after launch, you know what that carried? Fuel.  Because the initial take off takes almost more fuel than the rest of the trip combined.

So, um, don't make jackshit claims.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Cape Kennedy
« on: October 27, 2008, 08:44:35 PM »
So you have no answer, and resort to insulting my intelligence. Have you ever thought to question whether your beliefs are actually valid, or are you just arrogantly assuming that you know all the answers?

I answered you.

Why would they have nowhere else to go? You only know they go up, you can't know when or where they come back down. If it isn't possible to get to the moon, that would be a very good reason not to go.

So they launch, fly around a bit then land in some remote location? Then they re-stand the shuttle, fuel up with volatile fuel that they somehow transported to said remote location, re-launch in remote location where no one sees the multitude of smoke produced by the reaction, fly above the cloud cover again, and then land? Anyways, what you're proposing is that they can launch a shuttle (twice!), which Mr. Tom Bishop says is pure science fiction, but they cannot leave the "atmoflat" and get to the moon?  It's preposterous.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Cape Kennedy
« on: October 27, 2008, 08:30:37 PM »
So you have no answer, and resort to insulting my intelligence. Have you ever thought to question whether your beliefs are actually valid, or are you just arrogantly assuming that you know all the answers?


I answered you.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Cape Kennedy
« on: October 27, 2008, 08:07:07 PM »
NASA can launch rockets, not spacecraft. The rockets do not reach sustained spaceflight, or spaceflight for that matter as NASA has nothing to gain by doing so.

Where do the astronauts go when they walk into the shuttle?

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Cape Kennedy
« on: October 27, 2008, 08:02:23 PM »
So you have conceded the point that NASA can launch spacecraft, I would like to hear Mr. Bishop's opinion on this matter.  Seeing as he seems to have a problem with "sending 100 tonnes straight up at 7 miles a second".

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Cape Kennedy
« on: October 27, 2008, 07:07:50 PM »
How do you know the rockets went into orbit after being launched?

Nowhere else to go? Why, if you had the capability to launch a shuttle with all the equipment to land on the moon would you not land on the moon?


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Flat Earth Debate / Cape Kennedy
« on: October 27, 2008, 06:41:24 PM »
What do you say to the millions of people who have watched the launches from Cape Kennedy...the rockets that they saw, where did they go, if you can't have orbit with an FE and they didn't go to the moon, where did they go.  The Astronauts were gone for the duration of the mission, where did they go? If they could launch the rocket in the first place which they obviously could since there are at least a million eye-witnesses, why wouldn't they be able to land on the moon. Also the first launch was Cold War times, you think the Russians wouldn't have said something if the shuttle had remained in the atmosphere, just flying around, shit, do you know how much fuel it would have used...

So here's the choice, either there are a million Americans who lied about watching a launch, not to mention lied about people dieing in a launch(Challenger), or they really went to space.

Choose one. Can't have both.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Proof of Conspiracy
« on: October 25, 2008, 08:17:29 AM »
I live on the west coast, how do you explain Tom, that I can fly to London, either over the Pacific and Russia, or over The U.S. and the Atlantic...

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Doppler shift and the distance to the moon
« on: October 25, 2008, 08:11:33 AM »
First off - NASA never went to the moon. Any reflections are from the highly reflective moon dust. We obviously don't know what the moon dust is.

When you shine a light at a mirror it hits the mirror and bounces off at a the opposite angle like this:


Not straight back at the source like you propose, you want proof buy a laser pointer and shine it at an angle at a reflective surface, see where it shows up.

the reflectors placed on the moon by NASA were retroreflectors, which are designed to always shine light back in the direction it came.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retroreflector

I know, I was saying that because he said it was the moon dust that reflected light back at earth...

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: hurricanes
« on: October 24, 2008, 09:48:47 PM »
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Wouldn't the military just not tell people?  So they could make money.

I wouldn't be surprised if large parts of the military's computer models of the earth's weather was randomly or predicatively generated based on their limited data points.

Q: Does this sentence mean anything?
A: No.

You must have been good at dodgeball in school Tom.

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: hurricanes
« on: October 24, 2008, 09:29:37 PM »
The truth is that the government uses a great number of different technologies to monitor the weather. It's not only buoys; every military ship and plane also has advanced on board weather radar which streams to the NOAA.

Wouldn't the military just not tell people?  So they could make money.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Doppler shift and the distance to the moon
« on: October 24, 2008, 08:54:34 PM »
The certain points on the moon the topography of the moon is such that head on - reflections are reflected back.

You're my hero.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Doppler shift and the distance to the moon
« on: October 24, 2008, 04:36:59 PM »
The moon isn't a perfectly spherical surface. Even NASA would agree with me on this.

Mirrors aren't spheres either, so I'm not sure how this refutes what I just stated, please explain?

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Doppler shift and the distance to the moon
« on: October 24, 2008, 04:18:51 PM »
First off - NASA never went to the moon. Any reflections are from the highly reflective moon dust. We obviously don't know what the moon dust is.

When you shine a light at a mirror it hits the mirror and bounces off at a the opposite angle like this:


Not straight back at the source like you propose, you want proof buy a laser pointer and shine it at an angle at a reflective surface, see where it shows up.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: An RE predictive success
« on: October 24, 2008, 04:09:49 PM »
Show us the proper way to attack a bendy light problem?

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