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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: Hold on...
« on: October 20, 2008, 02:09:39 PM »
Not everyone is naive enough to actually believe they are looking at a raw image

When NASA claims that an image is raw and unedited there's an expectation that the images are, you know, raw and unedited.

So you're happy to believe the site if they say NASA faked the images, but not to believe the site when they say they have been to Mars. Selective much?

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Proof of Conspiracy
« on: October 20, 2008, 02:41:16 AM »
Its funny how many holes are in the FE theory, I mean you can't even post an accurate map.

Even if I can't prove the earth is round within the specifications you require, I can still show the hundreds of holes in the FE theory

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Proof of Conspiracy
« on: October 20, 2008, 01:48:17 AM »
You're the one claiming the earth is flat - prove it.

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: Drop - How does it happen?
« on: October 19, 2008, 09:16:07 PM »
So are you saying it doesn't happen, or that no one has ever done it?

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: Drop - How does it happen?
« on: October 19, 2008, 08:21:54 PM »
But I thought you said that the experiment hadn't be done, now you're saying it has?

Also, the Bedford Canal Experiment proved that this drop occurs. This was detailed in a bet between John Hampton and Russell Wallace. A court of law found that Wallace won the bet. Why was it inconclusive? It was good enough for the courts to award the winnings and jail a person for spreading false accusations about someone, I would say that's pretty conclusive.

Source here- http://query.nytimes.com/mem/archive-free/pdf?_r=2&res=9C00EFDF113EEE34BC4852DFBE66838A669FDE&oref=slogin&oref=slogin

Also can you answer my questions about sunlight in the other thread?


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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: Drop - How does it happen?
« on: October 19, 2008, 06:29:01 PM »
It's something you can test yourself, if I said I have you wouldn't believe me anyway. Sooooo any explanation?

How are we supposed to know the results of the experiment if no one has done it?  ???

Uhhh I'm surprised you haven't heard of the Bedford Level experiment? You know that thing they tried to use to prove the earth was flat but it backfired when it proved the earth was round?

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: Drop - How does it happen?
« on: October 19, 2008, 05:10:49 PM »
Ok, so you're saying that it doesn't happen.

So by that, if I went out and did it, and that was the result, you couldn't explain it?

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: Drop - How does it happen?
« on: October 19, 2008, 04:37:21 PM »
It's something you can test yourself, if I said I have you wouldn't believe me anyway. Sooooo any explanation?

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: Sunlight
« on: October 19, 2008, 04:34:49 PM »
Refraction.

Can you please expand on this? I don't see how refraction has to do with anything.

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Flat Earth Q&A / Drop - How does it happen?
« on: October 19, 2008, 09:10:56 AM »
Hi all,

I have three stakes, all of equal length. I place one on a flat lake, continue along for a mile, place another, then place my third 2 miles away from my starting location.

When I site the top of the first stake against my third, the second one is 8 inches higher, why is that? RE theory's say it is due to the curve of the earth of course.


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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: Sunlight
« on: October 19, 2008, 09:06:14 AM »
Can you please tell me why sunrise and sunset on the equator occurs approximately 12 hours apart in FE while the sun is covering less than half the distance according to that model? According to that model we should have approximately 8 hours of sunlight and 16 hours of darkness at the equator.

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Flat Earth Q&A / Sunlight
« on: October 19, 2008, 08:45:11 AM »
Can anyone please give me a quick picture of how according to FE, the sun lights the earth?

http://theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?PHPSESSID=82032e083413999fb89e5ff8baebf68f&topic=3500

Is this an accurate description.

Can someone please tell me why we don't see light across the entire earth?

Thanks.

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: Proof?
« on: October 05, 2008, 03:37:10 AM »

In other words you don't have an answer to my question?

I'll take it as a forfeit, thanks.

You haven't answered mine yet

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: Proof?
« on: October 04, 2008, 09:50:35 PM »
Tom,

I never said anything about NASA, or in that post, any specific subject at all.

I'm mearly asking if you agree that is a thought process a reasonable person would go through, and do you think you go through this same process?

I can be anything from beliving that Sony TV's are good to cats are nice to whatever,

do you agree with that?

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: Proof?
« on: October 04, 2008, 04:04:11 PM »
Tell me if you find this reasonable.

To have a belief in something, you have to have a reason for doing so.
A reasonable person is open to information about this belief, in which they will weigh up this information and believe the most likely conclusion.

This can go from anything like do chips taste nice (unsure to begin with -> taste one and gain information -> decide if they taste nice / not through reactions of taste buds)

This of course can change next time you try a chip you do like, even if tried the first one and you didn't. So belief's in general should always be open to new information.

Do you think I'm wrong in saying a reasonable person should take in all the information in regards to their belief then make an informed decision from there? With the most likely outcome being the reasonable thing they should believe in?


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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: Proof?
« on: October 03, 2008, 02:18:57 AM »
Roundy the Truthinessiest - Do you believe the earth is flat?

Tom - Would you accept any other proof's that the earth is round? A common example I see given is a filmed flight continiously south, would you accept that? You can also observe, with binoculars, ships slowly 'sinking' below the horizon as it sails farther and farther out to the ocean, then watch them come back, how do you explain that?

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: Proof?
« on: October 02, 2008, 11:23:36 PM »
Roundy the Truthinessist - Why would you not accept that as proof?

Tom - What altitude would that be?

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: Proof?
« on: October 02, 2008, 05:06:22 PM »
Tom,

Would you accept direct observation of the earth from space with your own eye's as proof that the earth is round? This is regardless of the possibility of doing so, or if the government would let you or not.

Are there other experiments which would prove to you that the earth is round which you would find acceptable to change your views?

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: Proof?
« on: October 02, 2008, 06:16:07 AM »
True, but I'm assuming that you are trying to prove something that is very different from god. There should be physical evidence to support your theory. For instance if you personally travelled up in a spacecraft and saw the earth with your own eyes being round, I'd assume this would be sufficent proof for that indervidual person (I'm sure the other FE believers wouldn't believe them when they came back to earth).

What other situations would make you believe that the earth is not flat?

I'm going out on a limb and assuming your not completely close minded (I don't want to start insulting you)

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Flat Earth Q&A / Proof?
« on: October 02, 2008, 05:34:27 AM »
Hello all FE believer's

I've got a pretty simple question, can anyone think of any proof that you would accept, which would convince you that the earth was round?

Obviously photo's are out, because they are photoshopped by the government.

Most other forms of proof are again claimed to be conspiracy theories.

What would it take to convince you that the earth was round?

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