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Flat Earth General / Re: Grazing occultations
« on: February 12, 2021, 12:44:14 PM »
No chance. The phases are caused by round Earth's shadow being cast off into space, and it's extremely high up and can be seen anywhere on the globe during night, so I'm not sure how that's a credible theory.

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Flat Earth General / Re: Flight from Anchorage to Helsinski = PHEW FE Map
« on: February 12, 2021, 08:09:53 AM »
If you want me to refute your claims, the flight from Chile to Australia is way too far of a distance on the flat earth map (the generally accepted one) which is actually an azimuthal equidistant projection of the globe.
That won't help for him.
He uses a south pole centred one.

No worries.



Same thing but in reverse. 7 hour flight longer distance than 12 hour one?

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Flat Earth General / Re: Flight from Anchorage to Helsinski = PHEW FE Map
« on: February 11, 2021, 05:06:11 PM »
If you want me to refute your claims, the flight from Chile to Australia is way too far of a distance on the flat earth map (the generally accepted one) which is actually an azimuthal equidistant projection of the globe. I've attached an image for reference. The actual flight takes 12 hours, and for reference, I've included New York to London which is 7 hours for reference. The reason why there is an arc is because arcs have shorter distance to travel on our globe Earth. Ignore the line extending to Antarctica, it should only go to Chile. So no, you aren't right. This flight proves the Earth's sphericity. The flight times don't match up.

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Also, the reason why they choose the longer flight is because it's not one continuous path. They hop on different planes at the cities' airport. It's called a connecting flight. It ends up being cheaper than just fueling up one plane and going.

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Flat Earth General / Re: What would change your mind?
« on: February 06, 2021, 07:15:10 AM »

Quote from: Solarwind

What use is any of that to school kids?
What use is the nonsense of a global Earth to school kids?


Hey sceptimatic. Teaching kids about the Earth in school is beneficial for 2 reasons:

1) Helps with History classes, science classes, and other classes
2) Making sure they know how our round planet works at a young age so they don't get influenced by baseless conspiracies

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Flat Earth General / Re: Flat Earth Proof
« on: February 04, 2021, 12:32:49 PM »

As I said in a previous post I can only make assumptions why my father had the documents. He has passed. This is what I found. As far as O-6. I have no idea what that is. As far as I know the next rank is general so itís my assumption again that colonels are pretty high up and would have a hand in most aspects of operations. As far as  NASA and Saturn V rockets. I have no idea. I can only assume it was faked someone based on the USAF documentation that state they canít get rockets past a certain altitude without disintegrating or blowing up. There is apparently some force field or something up there. I will say this. They cited it as the termination horizon and it was 60.33 miles from sea level.

Thank you for your response. O-6 is the equivalent of a colonel in the Air Force. However, O-6 is not that high up there. The top rank is O-10 and that would most probably be the person who received the intel. However, if you aren't trolling about all this, I can tell you that whatever you're seeing is complete bollocks and shouldn't trust it. For example, how is there a magic forcefield 97 km in the sky that destroys all rockets? Either way, the documents are probably some sort of mock USAF stuff since there is no way that this would be credible due to an O-6 receiving top-secret intel, and the clear scientific fallacies. If you're looking for hard proof the Earth is round, a flight from London to New York is 7 hours long, and a flight from Chile to Australia is 12 hours long. On a flat earth model (at least on the most common model, the azimuthal equidistant projection of the globe), the latter arc is insanely long, and if compared to the London flight, would supposedly take ~45.5 hours. I've attached another image for reference (excuse my bad drawing :-\). Planes don't dip their noses down because they maintain a constant altitude relative to the Earth. No, it's not the wind either. I encourage you to re-educate yourself, because these documents are most likely mock ones, and aren't real.


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Flat Earth General / Re: What would change your mind?
« on: February 04, 2021, 10:45:01 AM »
Quote from: Solarwind
The absence of any direct sensation that the Earth is moving at all will only feed that disbelief and so you will dismiss it as rubbish.
Yeah, it's bound to for anyone who isn't tranced into the spinning global nonsense.

Hi sceptimatic. I'm sure as a fellow man of science you would know about Foucault's pendulum, a 19th-century device that proves the rotation of the Earth. Unfortunately, there are no pendulums that prove the Earth is a stationary planar disc.

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Flat Earth General / Re: Flat Earth Proof
« on: February 04, 2021, 10:38:48 AM »
Hi Flat Man.

        I'm surely intrigued on your documents. Since Colonel is only an O-6 in the Air Force, I'm concerned on how he obtained top secret documents. If he was in the air force, why does he keep some top secret documents in his house? Since these are top secret I'm sure they would be locked up better. Unfortunately most people are see-to-believe, and if we can't see it, we won't believe it. Isn't it also strange how NASA publicly broadcasted the Saturn V launch, and nearby people could see the rocket go up? Of course you could see the boarding of the astronauts. I'm concerned what happened to them if it was faked, as the rocket did launch. Is your top secret map an azimuthal equidistant projection of the globe? I've attached an image for reference. (A model of the globe but flattened out from the North pole)

Thanks.


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Flat Earth General / Re: ANOTHER EXPERIMENT: Gravity Doesn't Exist
« on: January 25, 2021, 08:36:29 AM »

Again, the simple explanation is the person applies a force to the ball and the ball applies a force back.
No need to invoke your magic air.
The reason a ball applies a force back is due to that ball having a resistance to its dense mass and your hands pushing on that ball and against that resistance (air pressure), is what propels you back a little.

No gravity needed and no gravity can be explained from this point.
If you think it can, then explain it.

The reason why you are propelled back when you throw a ball is because of Newton's third law which can be roughly outlined by the equation Fa = -Fb. This is also why rockets can propel themselves due to thrust (F = ṁeVe-ṁ0V0 + (pe - p0)Ae)

Maybe this will help:
Quote from: sokarul
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Why can't I use my feet to compress air and jump off of the air?


Quote from: sokarul link=Etopic=74250.msg2022893#msg2022893 date=1518300242
You should learn how to double jump. You know, like in video games. You jump and then jump in air to get s double jump. Since you can push off air and all.



Iím not a question of need, itís a question if itís possible.

Is it possible to jump off air like a rocket and medicine ball ďjumpĒ off air?


Anything else you need to know?
It's not gravity that's pushing that egg into the bottle.

It is gravity that's pushing the egg into the bottle. Gravity is a force. Gravity pulls anything with mass (Fg = Gm1m2/r2). The air is rushing past the egg, making it vibrate, and then it gets pushed into the bottle because the pressure is so intense. Even if there are more causes than gravity for something to fall, like this case, the air pressure helps it fall into the bottle, gravity is still acting on it as eggs have mass.
Push or pull?
You can't have it both ways for your gravity.

Let's make this clear.
If gravity was the cause of the egg being pulled into the bottle, then why isn't it pulled into the bottle straight away?


Let me explain what really happens and why the egg vibrates.

It's because the pressure inside the bottle is lowered by expanding the air out of it which pushes past the egg and rattles it on it's way past to take its place into the atmosphere and add to the egg to create that leverage to push the egg into the bottle.

Have a serious think about it.

The reason why gravity doesn't force the egg into the bottle is that the bottle's opening's diameter is smaller than the diameter of the egg. The air pressure helps gravity push the egg in, and because the air is dying to get out of the bottle, it forces the entire egg into it.

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Flat Earth General / Re: ANOTHER EXPERIMENT: Gravity Doesn't Exist
« on: January 24, 2021, 10:56:47 AM »

Again, the simple explanation is the person applies a force to the ball and the ball applies a force back.
No need to invoke your magic air.
The reason a ball applies a force back is due to that ball having a resistance to its dense mass and your hands pushing on that ball and against that resistance (air pressure), is what propels you back a little.

No gravity needed and no gravity can be explained from this point.
If you think it can, then explain it.

The reason why you are propelled back when you throw a ball is because of Newton's third law which can be roughly outlined by the equation Fa = -Fb. This is also why rockets can propel themselves due to thrust (F = ṁeVe-ṁ0V0 + (pe - p0)Ae)

Maybe this will help:
Quote from: sokarul
...
Why can't I use my feet to compress air and jump off of the air?


Quote from: sokarul link=Etopic=74250.msg2022893#msg2022893 date=1518300242
You should learn how to double jump. You know, like in video games. You jump and then jump in air to get s double jump. Since you can push off air and all.



Iím not a question of need, itís a question if itís possible.

Is it possible to jump off air like a rocket and medicine ball ďjumpĒ off air?


Anything else you need to know?
It's not gravity that's pushing that egg into the bottle.

It is gravity that's pushing the egg into the bottle. Gravity is a force. Gravity pulls anything with mass (Fg = Gm1m2/r2). The air is rushing past the egg, making it vibrate, and then it gets pushed into the bottle because the pressure is so intense. Even if there are more causes than gravity for something to fall, like this case, the air pressure helps it fall into the bottle, gravity is still acting on it as eggs have mass.

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Flat Earth General / Re: ANOTHER EXPERIMENT: Gravity Doesn't Exist
« on: January 20, 2021, 12:47:38 PM »
Wow you guys read a book and then you forward its idea without question.  :o

Thrust ain't have to do with what's in the book. It also ain't magic.
Thrust is real, it needs a hitting by the air mass from behind. It's the closed system that allows such thrust.

Back to my experiment...

My proposition is Downwards Universal Deceleration in which the entire earth's close system -- along with the air -- is hit by the velociting downwards fire which in turn will make the fire goes upwards.
(Or if you use UA model: 👉 the air hit the fire upwards).

Let's be simple.

If the lighter's fire goes upwards, it NEEDS some amount of energy from below to make it goes upwards.

WHAT IF the position of the lighter is changed to be 👉 vertical (not horizontal as shown in the video),



In order to make the fire goes horizontal, you need to store similar amount of energy, say, with mouth blowing, while you know a horizontal "magnet" doesn't count. It's irrelevant.

Precisely, if you blow the fire from the left side, the fire will go rightwards. No magnet from the left to pull the fire leftwards.

"Left side magnet doesn't exist".

If you claim there is a magnet at the left side. It might be the case only in the dream.👌

Because of density (p = m/v), hot air rises. This is because, when something has an increase in energy, its molecules become more active and "bounce" around, thus becoming less dense. When this happens to a certain degree, it becomes less dense than the surrounding air, thus, it can float. It's not because of any Downwards Acceleration mumbo jumbo; just simple math and physics. And because of Newton's third law, when you blow it on the left side, it goes rightwards.

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Flat Earth General / Re: Refraction over water
« on: January 20, 2021, 06:33:06 AM »
I believe I can answer your question with Snell's law. Wikipedia has a good article on it, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snell%27s_law, and I will also sum it up here.

sin θ2/sin θ1 = v2/v1 = n1/n2
There are many other equations in the Wikipedia article, but I believe this is the main one.

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Flat Earth General / Re: Why do airplanes fly at the height they fly at?
« on: January 19, 2021, 05:54:41 PM »
There's a wonderful stack exchange article that explains this in detail, but I'll also sum it up right here.

https://aviation.stackexchange.com/questions/1609/why-do-jet-engines-get-better-fuel-efficiency-at-high-altitudes

Thrust is the difference between the entry impulse of the air entering the engine and then the exit impulse of the heated fuel and air mixture leaving the engine. Impulse is mass times velocity, and expressed with a mass flow ṁ, and thrust T is

T=ṁ⋅(vexit−ventry)

The exit impulse is increased by accelerating the airflow through the engine, and the acceleration is achieved by heating up the air more.

Every gram of fuel heats up a given mass of air by a certain number of centigrades. The definition of the energy content of fuels is given as the capacity to heat a pound of water by one degree Fahrenheit.

Thermal efficiency is the ratio between the mechanical work that is extracted as thrust in addition to the heat energy spent on heating the air, and it is indirectly affected by the flight altitude.

(see the Wikipedia page on the Carnot cycle https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carnot_cycle)

This cycle (and also others) describe the workings of combustion engines in thermodynamic terms.

It says that the efficiency of a combustion engine cannot be greater than the temperature ratio between the temperature increase from ambient (tamb) to the maximum temperature tmax of the process, divided by the maximum temperature. All temperatures must be expressed as a total temperature, where 0į means 0 K or -273.15įC. Engines operating in colder air makes the ratio bigger and will improve efficiency.

Here's another equation:

ηt=tmax−tamb/tmax

This should sum it up for the most part.

Please correct me if I did anything wrong; I'm no master in aviation.

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