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Flat Earth General / Re: NASA EPIC LIES
« on: June 02, 2020, 06:31:25 AM »
YOU ONLY NEED TO PROVE ONE OF THEM TO BE THE SAME PERSON TO PROVE THE THEORY :




What follows is at the level (of credibility) of the fairytale about 9/11 highjacker passport that was allegedly found moments before the World Trade Center 2 (South Tower) collapsed :





Ronald McNair is next. He was a Mission Specialist on the crew. The official story is that this picture below is of Carl McNair, who just happens to be Ronald’s twin brother. If you believe that, then I’ve got some land in Florida I think you might be interested in. Here you can see “Carl” McNair on LinkedIn, where he happens to be a “Best-Selling Author, Inspirational Speaker and Science, Technology, Engineering and Math (STEM) Education Consultant.”

Ellison Onizuka is still alive. The official story in Ellison’s case is also an “identical twin brother” coincidence. So apparently, that’s not Ellison on the right, it’s his brother Claude. Yeah, right. Wink, wink. :lol:

THE BEST VIDEO EVER MADE ON THIS TOPIC :

Challenger Crew Still Alive and Kicking :


Why did you bring up this one again? You don't have any respect for these people what so ever. Besides it is already debunked. See this linl https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/challenger-crew-alive/ where you can see that all you wrote is pure nonsens

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Flat Earth General / Re: You can't Handle The Dome ^_^
« on: April 24, 2020, 03:48:08 AM »
Jack said:
"Now care to actually address what I said, rather than what you wanted me to say?"

>> What more can I explain?
As much as taking a shower, you can make the water flow or at rest depending the necessity.
Condensation logic requires that the rain should fall from all parts of the cloud, it should rain continually till there is no water anymore at the cloud, and the cloud should become 'white' again. Those things are not the case.

I think you didn't followed the link that I had posted earlier https://www.kidsplayandcreate.com/what-are-clouds-how-are-clouds-formed-cloud-facts-for-kids/. But I have some news for you. Clouds are made from water vapor and it isn't the case that from every cloud rain will fall. This is depending how much water vapor is in the cloud. But if you did read the site that I had link you should had read that

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Flat Earth General / Re: You can't Handle The Dome ^_^
« on: April 23, 2020, 01:57:45 AM »
Where is the tsunami, danang? It wouldn't even cause a flash flood.

There must be a pool of water situated at the center of the cloud. There also must be a hole under the pool with open & close 'door' system. Rain works with not a natural mechanism. There are 'employees' to realize a rain.

School's theory must be revised, but the 'tsunamy' title not -- unless you suggest so to its youtuber. 8)

That's just an afternoon storm where I live - something to save me watering the garden. Me taking a leak over the side of a cliff would be more impressive!

The most impressive is indeed the PT.. AKA 👉 "Phew Theory" 👈 8)

Danang maybe you can read this article that explains of how the clouds written for kids. Maybe you can understand it
https://www.kidsplayandcreate.com/what-are-clouds-how-are-clouds-formed-cloud-facts-for-kids/

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Flat Earth General / Re: You can't Handle The Dome ^_^
« on: April 17, 2020, 03:36:23 AM »
Have you ever done an experiment with a pan that is closed with a glass lid that is heated? You will see the water vapor condensing on the glass lid where it from droplets of water. This is the same principle of how clouds are forming and there for your nonsense 'land aka cloud' opinion is bye bye.
So the water evaporates from the ocean and condenses on the dome before running down the side/falling as rain?

I posted this for Danang so he may can understand how clouds and rain are formed. In the real world the water evaporates from the ocean and condenses in the cooler air at a certain altitude, as you already know. I also don't believe that there is a dome since I know that there is no dome above the earth.

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Flat Earth General / Re: You can't Handle The Dome ^_^
« on: April 17, 2020, 12:40:44 AM »
Danang,

Have you ever done an experiment with a pan that is closed with a glass lid that is heated? You will see the water vapor condensing on the glass lid where it from droplets of water. This is the same principle of how clouds are forming and there for your nonsense 'land aka cloud' opinion is bye bye.

Also you still don't provide any evidence that a dome exists, none! And there will never be an evidence for this since there is no dome!.

Personally I think that you take the p*ss out of us for your own grieve and have a hard laugh. I can not see how somebody can acting like this and being serious about this.

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Flat Earth General / Re: You can't Handle The Dome ^_^
« on: April 03, 2020, 12:17:31 AM »
Why doesn't it show up on radar?

There is water at the zone before the rocket hit the dome, that's why radar cannot detect the dome

I'm not seeing the connection...

Are you suggesting that radar cannot detect water?

Real evidences have been shown and it's basically more manual, IOW it's more convincing.

Is that a 'yes' or a 'no'?

It's steam above us. The steam will distort the radar's waves. The water itself lies above the steam layer. Not to mention the solid dome.
You cannot detect the dome by the radar.
Claims that radar can detect the moon can be dismissed. How come you had to wait the feedback in days while you're on the earth which was spinning & revolving under the racing solar system?

Radar has the job only to detect (semi) solid objects which is not too far away.

The best way to detect the existence of the dome is by manual experiments, such as by rocket, helium balloon etc.

Sorry to say (however I am not) but the distance to the moon was already measured with the use of a radar in 1958. See the article below.
The complete article including other measuring methods can be find at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lunar_distance_(astronomy)

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Radar

An experiment was conducted in 1957 at the U.S. Naval Research Laboratory that used the echo from radar signals to determine the Earth-Moon distance. Radar pulses lasting 2 μs were broadcast from a 50 ft diameter radio dish. After the radio waves echoed off the surface of the Moon, the return signal was detected and the delay time measured. From that measurement, the distance could be calculated. In practice, however, the signal-to-noise ratio was so low that an accurate measurement could not be reliably produced.[34]

The experiment was repeated in 1958 at the Royal Radar Establishment, in England. Radar pulses lasting 5 μs were transmitted with a peak power of 2 megawatts, at a repetition rate of 260 pulses per second. After the radio waves echoed off the surface of the Moon, the return signal was detected and the delay time measured. Multiple signals were added together to obtain a reliable signal by superimposing oscilloscope traces onto photographic film. From the measurements, the distance was calculated with an uncertainty of 1.25 km.[35]

These initial experiments were intended to be proof-of-concept experiments and only lasted one day. Follow-on experiments lasting one month produced a mean value of 384402±1.2 km,[36] which was the most accurate measurement of the lunar distance at the time.

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Flat Earth General / Re: You can't Handle The Dome ^_^
« on: April 01, 2020, 11:54:24 PM »
@bright


The rocket hit something solid. This is the evidence that has been repeatedly the case in other similar experiments, including helium balloon experiments.


Above us is not a vacuum space. There is a boundary called "dome".

As this is already explained by Rabinoz, I still don't see any evidence of this so called 'dome'. If you are so sure that there is an dome, why don't you launch a rocket and check for your self if there is a dome.

Mad Mike tried

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-51602655

 :'( :'(

Here is an image of the dome anyway. Why do you assume it has to be a solid? Does our atmosphere not encapsulate and help sustain life here on this land?



I assume that you know that 'Mad Mike' was trying to show that the earth was flat using his rocket? He did not wanted to prove that there is a dome. However the earth is still not flat and there is no dome above the earth.

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Flat Earth General / Re: You can't Handle The Dome ^_^
« on: March 31, 2020, 03:50:47 AM »
@bright


The rocket hit something solid. This is the evidence that has been repeatedly the case in other similar experiments, including helium balloon experiments.


Above us is not a vacuum space. There is a boundary called "dome".

As this is already explained by Rabinoz, I still don't see any evidence of this so called 'dome'. If you are so sure that there is an dome, why don't you launch a rocket and check for your self if there is a dome.

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Flat Earth General / Re: You can't Handle The Dome ^_^
« on: March 30, 2020, 03:46:48 AM »
Why doesn't it show up on radar?

There is water at the zone before the rocket hit the dome, that's why radar cannot detect the dome

I'm not seeing the connection...

Are you suggesting that radar cannot detect water?

Real evidences have been shown and it's basically more manual, IOW it's more convincing.

And where are these evidences then? I don't see any in this thread.

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Whats happened in pegasus, flight recorders are encrypted

1- Lightning struck just before Pegasus landed on the crashed plane due to adverse weather conditions. Airplanes equipped with lightning are not affected. However, both pilots focused their concentrations as to whether the lightning had an effect on the aircraft's instruments as required by the procedure.

2- Meanwhile, while the aircraft was using a captain, the second pilot focused on the task of communication and tracking the tools. The tower said the two previous planes passed the runway. However, he made this warning in Turkish instead of English according to aviation terminology. The captain replied, "I got it," but the Dutch pilot responsible for the communication did not understand the announcement and the coordination was broken in the cockpit because he had seconds to land.

3- Meanwhile, another plane took off with the same rear wind just before the crashed plane. This made pilots feel that everything was in its normal flow.

4- At that time, the back wind was blowing at a speed of 26.4 km per hour. As the Pegasus Airlines rear wind pass limit is 28 km per hour, pilots decided to land with the aircraft in tolerance.

5- The length of the track is 3 thousand meters. Contrary to popular belief, the plane landed not in the middle or end of the runway, but in the 705th meter of the runway, which is a normal distance.

6- The pilots started braking normally when the plane landed. Although the speed of the plane fell to 98 km / h, the sudden wind from the back suddenly increased to 51 km / h. This push increased speed. Since the pilots were sure that they would stop, they decided to return from the exit at the end of the track, not in the middle of the track, to give up hard braking and talk among themselves to avoid slipping on the wet ground. Meanwhile, since everything was normal in the cabin and the plane slowed down, the hostesses made the announcement, "You can use your phones".

7- When the pilots came towards the turn at the end of the track, which was not used frequently, they braked again to slow down. However, probably the plane started to slide when it landed on the tracks of hundreds of previous landings and take-offs on the runway, and the speed never decreased.

8- The problem started exactly at this moment, and the pilots understood that there was an abnormality.

9- Even though the pilots switched to hard brakes, the plane slid the last 700 meters of the runway for 17 seconds and did not slow down. If this time and distance were normal ground, it would be enough to stop even a faster plane.

10- In such cases called “stop way” at the end of the runway, the plane rolled down due to the steep slope instead of the soft soil ground field that would stop the plane without damage.

11- The retaining wall built to prevent the vertical floor from slipping caused the plane to fall apart and the damage increased. However, officials are also united in the view that this situation causes the engines of the plane to break off and leave the fuselage so that there was no fire occured in the plane.

My conclusion: In this accident, it is seen that many negative factors that cannot cause an accident alone occur magically.

So I can conclude that Pegasus is removed from your 'blacklist'? Not that I care about your 'blacklist' since this list is nonsense.

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The arrow tilted up direction is relatively constant from the beginning. If there were gravity, the front/lighter part of the arrow would dip.

Quite a contradiction here. You are saying that a lighter part would dip due to gravity, while it is just the opposite. A heavier part will pulled by the gravity more then a lighter part.

And as MaNaeSWolf already told. An arrow will never fly straight. This movie explains pretty good how an arrow fly through the air, even with a slow-motion of a real flying arrow.

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Wise. Do you know that the 'air-routes' in the sky are in a sentence highways? With the exception that they are able to take a 'de-tour' to avoid heavy storms.
With this being said, you can also claim that the all highways and train tracks are completely straight and will never make a turn. Which doesn't make any sense because they do and so does the routes that the airplanes fly.

I am almost sure that you have never being interested in aviation in general, because if you where you would know that airplanes almost never fly in a straight line.

And you never answered the question of why there is a flight time difference between the US -> Europa and Europe-> US. Please explain this simple fact!

I told you but you simply deny the facts. The map is wrong and it has been tried to corrected from left to right, hence left the right pathes are closer and right to left pathes are further. That's all.

I know that you told me that but it still doesn't explain the real world time difference. Since the route that the airplanes take in both directions are close to identical! Also it is very strange that a map 'error' is only valid in one direction and not in the other direction. This does not make any sense. An error like this will always be the same in both directions.

So you need to get a better answer than this to explain the real world time difference since you are denying that any wind has any influence on an airplane.

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Wise. Do you know that the 'air-routes' in the sky are in a sentence highways? With the exception that they are able to take a 'de-tour' to avoid heavy storms.
With this being said, you can also claim that the all highways and train tracks are completely straight and will never make a turn. Which doesn't make any sense because they do and so does the routes that the airplanes fly.

I am almost sure that you have never being interested in aviation in general, because if you where you would know that airplanes almost never fly in a straight line.

And you never answered the question of why there is a flight time difference between the US -> Europa and Europe-> US. Please explain this simple fact!

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Firstly, wind can not affect an aircraft to cause two hours delay. Forget it, it is imposible.
Every actual pilot in the world would disagree. Direct contradicting example: There were a few flights just last week flying from New York to London that hit 200 mph tailwinds and arrived 2 hours earlier than scheduled. Flights in the opposite direction were late along the same route. Wind DOES affect airplanes in flight whether you agree or not.
No, they do not. Accepting or denying something does not cancel their driving licence. They are some flat earther pilots and they are in the category of every. How can it be? Stop to baseless claims, or your claims based on wrong pre acceptations.
You are saying that the wind has no influence, yet you don't answer the question of what causes the time difference between flights from Europe to the USA and from the USA to Europe. It is a fact that there is a time difference, and don't come that we are being fooled and there is no time difference between this, because there is.
So elaborate us with your answer.

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Quote from: wise
As the altitude increases, the frequency of the atmosplane decreases. No matter how severe the winds at 30,000ft altitude, the effect will be less as its density decreases. this is the effect of opening the windows as you travel in a car. All those wind affect can not speed up or down a plane more than 1km/h in 1000km/h.

Looks like a deny to me. So please explain why there is a difference in flight time between east-west and west-east if it is not the wind that causes this.

Firstly, wind can not affect an aircraft to cause two hours delay. Forget it, it is imposible. Secondly, the reason is mistakes of maps.

Maps have been created from west to east, inother say left to right. Map is completely wrong, but it is more true considering west-east than east-west. Since the map was prepared from left to right, the existing errors were tried to be corrected from left to right. however, it is impossible to correct in either direction. therefore, the map is wrong from left to right in terms of flight routes, but slightly wrong. the right-to-left map is much more wrong. this is not the case in europe. In Europe, the flight time is equal in east-west and west-east directions. As long as distance increases, the mistakes on the map increases hence occurs time differences.

but where the map is wrong, there is even a difference between, for example, west and east of australia or west and east of the usa.it is impossible to correct all errors but can be reduced. and this preference was chosen from west to east, that is, from the left to right, which is our direction of writing. Since the maps are written in this direction.

I hope no more questions will be required to ask.

Still no clarification of the approx. 2 Hrs flight difference between Europe and the USA and vice versa which is real and you confirmed this. You can not 'blame' this on so called 'map errors'. Beside how can it be that an error works only in one direction? If there is an error then this error should be the same in both errors.

And your claim that only in Europe the flight distances are correct is false. Based on your false claim all the national flights in the USA should not be correct as in Australia, South America, Canada, Africa, China, Russia etc. Guess what? All the flight distances are correct in all these continents and Countries. No errors!

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Quote from: wise
As the altitude increases, the frequency of the atmosplane decreases. No matter how severe the winds at 30,000ft altitude, the effect will be less as its density decreases. this is the effect of opening the windows as you travel in a car. All those wind affect can not speed up or down a plane more than 1km/h in 1000km/h.

Looks like a deny to me. So please explain why there is a difference in flight time between east-west and west-east if it is not the wind that causes this.

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I have answered this question above before you have return here. As the altitude increases, the frequency of the atmosplane decreases. No matter how severe the winds at 30,000ft altitude, the effect will be less as its density decreases. this is the effect of opening the windows as you travel in a car. All those wind affect can not speed up or down a plane more than 1km/h in 1000km/h. But the globalists accept them as jet streams and impacts two hours in a route. This is literally impossibly. Imagine you're running against the wind. How much does the wind affect you? really little. and an airplane is much heavier than you and the relative impact of the wind will be much less.

Sydney to Santiago and from Johannesburg to Perth flights are different. There isn't any verified evidence about the route Sydney to Santiago. We have numerously discussed this, this is a very important issue but yet not a real evidence provided other than Qantas's baseless claims. Johannesburg to Perth flights flight time is wrong and those flights are not reliable. Those flight times are completely made up.

The density that you mentioned has nothing to do with the high altitude wind. The fact is that there is flight time difference between Europe and the USA and vice versa. Which is real since I flew several times between these 2 continents. I think that you never make this flight? If you did then you can check it by yourself using your own watch.

Also the flight between Sydney to Santiago and from Johannesburg to Perth are real, just because this 'don't fit' to 'your map' doesn't make these are non existing flights.

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HEHEHE
Are you still telling all flight routes perfectly fits with your so-called globe map, shamelesly while you know they actually arent?

Answer it; if they perfectly overlap so why do you use some excuses like borders, winds, etc so and so. You can, we can, anybody can create endless excuses to support a weak argument. What does it mean? Give up the evilness. Admit it does not overlap, because it has been proven above whether or not you agree.

I admit that not all flights are perfectly fit on the globe map, due to weather conditions, no fly zones, political issues and everything that is written. However this doesn't mean that the flight distances are not correct! If you look to the flight from Sydney to Santiago and from Johannesburg to Perth these are real and fits the globe map. However on a FE map and even on your 'map' it doesn't make sense.

However you did not answer my question for the time difference when flying from Europe to the USA and back. And why you are thinking that an airplane is not effected by a high altitude wind!

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So just for clarity, in your mind, all aircraft

A - fly directly to their destination the second their wheels lift off the tarmac. Ignoring all international borders, military no fly zones, areas of conflict, missile testing areas, storms and mountains.
B - all aircraft have a consistent ground speed of 1000km/h regardless of the fact that they need to gain altitude before they can get to max cruise speed. Some may be smaller prop planes. Does not matter, they all have the exact speed.

is this what your saying?

Not quite. There are some situations where planes have to spend time on take-off and landing, and they vary for different airports. This effect is generally higher at short distances and proportionally less at long distances. basically there is no difference whether the place where an airplane passes over 10km height (above 30.000ft) is mountainous or sea level. proceeds directly on a route at a constant speed. Similar results appear in the thousands of cases I have studied. planes are not affected by high wind. Because the atmoplane is going to less when you go above hence the wind affects go to zero when you go above. however, since the departure and return routes are shown differently on the map, they note this as the opposite wind because they actually pass the same distance faster. whereas the effect of wind does not slow down the speed of an aircraft 10k meters high. this is the effect of opening the windows as you travel in a vehicle. Although the plane slows down with the wind coming from the opposite direction, for example, its speed from 906 km / h decreases to 905 km / h. this is the effect. however, where maps are wrong, such as China, Russia, and Australia, one plane appears to be moving twice as fast as the other. To explain this, the first is said to move with the jetstream, the other is said to move against the wind. whereas all these distances are consistent and speeds are constant on a flat world map, as in real life.

In the first example above, you explained the faults of the routes with the forbidden air zone. For the second, you provided fictitious reasons. institutions that would lie with higher quality for direct reasons should have emerged.

You are making a false claim by saying that wind don't have any effect on the airplanes at high altitude. Please explain why there is a difference in the flight time between Europe and the USA and from the USA to Europe. This can be up to an hour difference. I am eager to read your explanation on this.

Wise, all you have done is helped us prove that flight times is a bad way to measure distance.
You have given us direct evidence that flights can not and do not simply draw a direct line from point A to point B. Especially over land.
This would be even true if the world was flat.
Even if the world was Flat, this method would not work because you would STILL have all the issues we have mentioned.
Even in a flat world planes would have to plan their routes according to many many factors.

You have not given any evidence that air craft
A- Fly perfect direct routes (even if the world was flat)
B- Always maintain a perfect ground speed

Unless you can at least satisfy those claims you cant measure distance with their flight times.
Its simple geometry.

It is a direct line on the flat earth map. Because the distance shown on the map is wrong. The path perfectly overlaps with a flat earth map, my flat earth map.


And here is the problem. You are assuming that all the flights are straight lines and there for 'created' a map based on this. While in the real world there is no straight flight lines as already pointed out many times. It is the same as saying that all the railroads are straight because of the distance between 2 stations and create a map on this data.

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Here is a list off al no-fly zones in the world https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prohibited_airspace I think that you find some more flights that use a different route then you think

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Nope. You don't know what is the meaning of perfect.



I can show you tens of examples like this one. Why? Because the distance shown in the map is shorter than reality, no way but showing it by this way.

Distance shown in the map seems 963kms. In fact, it is about 1.300kms in my map, ie the true distance. You can see a straight line shown in my map about this flight. And this is the perfect I meant!
Wait, 2 questions Wise.

1 - Looking at flight paths like this, how did you think that flight routes would be a reliable manner to measure distance from different cities in the world?

2 - Do you know all the circumstances around why that particular route was chosen?
Have you considered any of the following
- the fact that different planes have different speeds.
- high altitude winds.
- any weather effects.
- city altitude.
- flight path.
- flight profile.
- holding patterns and airport traffic.
- no fly zones (of which China has many)

Unless you have calculated each flight after correcting for these things, there is zero chance your map has any accuracy.

A plane can easily fly for an additional 30-45 min in a holding pattern over a city throwing your map off by hundreds to thousands of km, especially in congested airports.

Anyway, on the globe map those 2 points are about 700km apart.

Such problems did not reported about those path. Your imagination vs reality. I chose the reality. Give up to defend lies. Nothing can explain hundreds of flights between Shangai and Taiwan constantly uses same extraordinary route. Stop to produse excuses for your wrong map.

You deliberately ignore the option of No-Fly zones that MaNaeSWolf pointed out as one of the reasons why this route is like this. See this article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiwan_Strait to see that there is a No-Fly zone located in the mentioned route

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I don't see what angry globalist gang are writing, but thank them for help in promoting the topic and upping it by writing unnecessary things.  ^-^

Help me rab: up! up! up!  ^-^
Seeing as I have not seen a single reference to your own map by anyone other than you, I dont think its making the impact you think it is.

courage is to defend what it known right against the world. can I do this? Yes. the rest is no problem. the rest happens spontaneously.

Still your map is not accurate.
No, it is. Your baseless denying does not magically make it not accurate.

Every airline route works perfect on the globe model. You can even project the route of an airline correctly on your map. Also are the distances accurate both ways? I don't think so, since your map is based on flight-times.

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I don't see what angry globalist gang are writing, but thank them for help in promoting the topic and upping it by writing unnecessary things.  ^-^

Help me rab: up! up! up!  ^-^
Seeing as I have not seen a single reference to your own map by anyone other than you, I dont think its making the impact you think it is.

courage is to defend what it known right against the world. can I do this? Yes. the rest is no problem. the rest happens spontaneously.

Still your map is not accurate.

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Wise. You know that your map is basically a globe? If you don't please take a look to this video.



It is not my map. My map is a full of scientific map, here it is:

https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=74162.0

If I would use your so called globe map then you would be right. But I have started from an empty map and fulled it with full of knowledge.At the end of the work I found a flat map completely the result of scientific examinations, calculations and measurements.

Sorry to say, but it looks like the same as in the video. You have only turned everything a slightly counter clockwise. So yeah, even your map is not good

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Wise. You know that your map is basically a globe? If you don't please take a look to this video.


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As I have mentioned above, it is not anything your government can decide. Likewise NASA has decided your so called compain create a fake route between Perth and Johannesburg, they still continue which conspiracy SAA has to obey. I do not want to respond to other statements because there are insulting elements in your statements.

And what is the benefit for NASA when 'they creating fake routes' ? Since I'm living in Europe I really don't care what NASA thinks or do. However I don't reject NASA and space in general, since I know that space is real. However I am always fascinated that the FErs always use NASA as their 'go-to guy' when they are not able to explain everything.

In general, what is the purpose of hiding anything 'the truth' according to you?

Black money. Contracting with an airline company to produce fake routes and making a deal with a simulation company to claim to send a rocket into space has the same effect on public. So called Sending rockets into space is direct argument  and the supportive argument is to produce fake routes. fake routes really help the public believe that you are really sending the rocket.

Still not an answer to my question. Black money doesn't cover this. Also what has fake routed to with rockets? Rockets are real and so are these flight routes. Do you have any evidence that these flights are fake? While thousands of people has flown these routes in real life?

No, I have answered but you are either unable to get what you read or denying the facts. You have asked me what is their benefit to lying and I have wrote it. Some people claiming something do not prove anything. Their number being more than me isn't an evidence.

Your answer is black money. So where is this black money coming from then? And what is the purpose of using black money to create these fake flights, as you call it? And I assume that you have much more flights that doesn't fit your model of Earth? If this is the case don't you ask yourself why there are difference between the real flight times and the flight times that you expected? Real scientists will ask them this and try to find what the reason is why it is not the same. However you instead say 'these flights must be fake because they don't fit with my model' and that's it.

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As I have mentioned above, it is not anything your government can decide. Likewise NASA has decided your so called compain create a fake route between Perth and Johannesburg, they still continue which conspiracy SAA has to obey. I do not want to respond to other statements because there are insulting elements in your statements.

And what is the benefit for NASA when 'they creating fake routes' ? Since I'm living in Europe I really don't care what NASA thinks or do. However I don't reject NASA and space in general, since I know that space is real. However I am always fascinated that the FErs always use NASA as their 'go-to guy' when they are not able to explain everything.

In general, what is the purpose of hiding anything 'the truth' according to you?

Black money. Contracting with an airline company to produce fake routes and making a deal with a simulation company to claim to send a rocket into space has the same effect on public. So called Sending rockets into space is direct argument  and the supportive argument is to produce fake routes. fake routes really help the public believe that you are really sending the rocket.

Still not an answer to my question. Black money doesn't cover this. Also what has fake routed to with rockets? Rockets are real and so are these flight routes. Do you have any evidence that these flights are fake? While thousands of people has flown these routes in real life?

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As I have mentioned above, it is not anything your government can decide. Likewise NASA has decided your so called compain create a fake route between Perth and Johannesburg, they still continue which conspiracy SAA has to obey. I do not want to respond to other statements because there are insulting elements in your statements.

And what is the benefit for NASA when 'they creating fake routes' ? Since I'm living in Europe I really don't care what NASA thinks or do. However I don't reject NASA and space in general, since I know that space is real. However I am always fascinated that the FErs always use NASA as their 'go-to guy' when they are not able to explain everything.

In general, what is the purpose of hiding anything 'the truth' according to you?

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If you were indeed subjective then you have had wait what the outcome is from the investigation, and not put American Airlines directly on the black list.

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Why don't you black-list every airline company and search then for the liability, trust and all sort of things that are your 'requirements'. Think that you will end with 2 or none airline companies that you trust completely.
In my opinion you will black list every airline company that is either accused for discrimination, false information and what not based on the stories that you hear without waiting for a fully investigation.
You will wait to put the Pegasus Airline to the blacklist, but put the American Airlines immediately to your 'black list' without waiting for the investigation results. Little, or better, enormous biased opinion.
Public reaction is important in comparing these two airlines. it was shared in the american public that this was a racist behavior which American Airlines did. Of course, if this situation changes at the end of the case of court, I will remove them from the list and I have already stated this.

Contrary, the general view on pegasus is dominated by the view that this is due to a technical problem at the airport. I did not add them, but there are case investigations there too. If the pegasus will be found guilty as a result of the investigation, you can be sure that I will not hesitate to add them.

So you put a public opinion above the result of an investigation about the American Airlines issue. Strange, because nowadays almost everyone is saying 'discrimination' first before hearing, questioning why they are refused. And this doesn't apply only to airline companies, but also to other companies and organizations as well.

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