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Technology, Science & Alt Science / Re: Name one, please...
« on: September 17, 2019, 06:26:13 AM »
Just a question for all the NASA believers...

Name one particular difference between the scenes of astronauts on the ISS produced by NASA and those scenes of Simon Helberg (playing Howard Wolowitz) on the ISS, produced by Chuck Lorre (The Big Bang Theory).

If you can't see the difference, it's because you are either not paying attention or don't want to see it.

Many real ISS videos are far too long to be filmed in the vomit comet and astronauts move around far too much to be using cables.

There is just no way to fake a weightlessness with astronauts moving around for several minutes in a single take.


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Flat Earth General / Re: When will RE Community Accept Defeat?
« on: September 17, 2019, 01:52:14 AM »

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Flat Earth General / Re: Lunar eclipses
« on: September 16, 2019, 05:55:14 AM »
There are some explanations in the Tfes wiki about the so called Shadow Object:

https://wiki.tfes.org/The_Lunar_Eclipse

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A Lunar Eclipse occurs about twice a year when a satellite of the sun passes between the sun and moon.

This satellite is called the Shadow Object or Antimoon. Its orbital plane is tilted at an angle to the sun's orbital plane, making eclipses possible only when the three bodies (Sun, Object, and Moon) are aligned.

Of course this shadow object has never been seen or detected outside of lunar eclipses, it just happens to be there when needed.

This explanation seems to be at odds with another common FE belief, that the moon has its own light. 

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Logical error of heaven&hell
« on: September 16, 2019, 04:27:14 AM »
A loving father would never send his children to suffer eternal punishment in hell.

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Flat Earth General / Re: The Equinox approaches.
« on: September 16, 2019, 02:25:01 AM »
Trying draw Greenwich meridian Meridan on the phew map I came up with this:



 ::) This map hast to be a joke.

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Flat Earth General / Re: The Equinox approaches.
« on: September 16, 2019, 01:28:44 AM »
To Rabinoz, Markjo etc.

If everybody sees the sunrise due east, it's because of the dome's refraction.

And if there are places with the same longitudes experience delay of the sun's supposedly position, it's because grids created by the sun is curved, not vertical.

This diagram can describe how sunrise time is not uniform on places with the same longitude.

You can also see how a places with lesser latitude can see the sunrise earlier than certain places with higher latitude than the previous place.



However, to make the diagram better presented, I'd like to ask you about  the NORTH. How do you define the NORTH? Is it identical with the direction of Polaris?
Also what is SOUTH?

According to your drawing days should be much longer in the southern hemisphere than in the northern hemisphere during the equinox, which isn't the case.

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Flat Earth General / Re: The Equinox approaches.
« on: September 16, 2019, 12:32:18 AM »
Quote from: rabinoz
at equinox the day-night terminator would simply divide the Ice-Wall map with a straight line as in:

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No one with any knowledge of the topic would claim that "The sun will rise from due east on this day for all locations on earth" or that "the earth will experience exactly equal times of day and night".

Okay. We will discredit and discard your input on this topic.

I'm not sure what the big mystery is. The FE sun simply doesn't appear even remotely as observed on Equinox from my location nor for anyone I know, anywhere. The FE sun isn't even in the ball park.



Is that what our Wikis and websites say about how the sun operates and what happens at equinox?

The FES wiki doesn't even try to provide a rational explanation for the equinox. Your constant deflection proves that FE has no explanation for the equinox.

How can the day/night terminator be a straight line? How can the sun rise due east and set due west from almost everywhere? You are not even trying to answer these questions.

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Flat Earth General / Re: The Equinox approaches.
« on: September 14, 2019, 10:52:55 PM »
The day / night terminator is parallel to the latitude lines during the equinox.

On the FE map that would be a straight line across the FE disk. I wonder what arrangement of bendy lights and atmospheric banks causes this.

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Suggestions & Concerns / Re: Question addressed to the admin/mods
« on: September 14, 2019, 04:47:46 PM »
I have disagree with Sandokhan on on this one. I think Rab is one of the best posters in this forum. I generally agree with most things Rab says, but his answers to Sandokhan's nonsense are particularly top notch. I honestly find Sandokhan's post much more spammy and repetitive,  I lost count of how many times I had to read that Hermann Weyl was the best mathematician of his time or that someone was doing Einstein's home work, when I read this I just skip to the next post.

However I think there's a lack of FE vs FE debate in this forum, maybe something could be done about that.

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Flat Earth General / Re: The RE Community Has a New Enemy
« on: September 14, 2019, 04:19:55 PM »
I am under no obligation to go into detail on all the copy-pasta that you post.

A sure sign of rudeness toward this forum and your readers.

I did read your reference, all 24 pages of it.

Furthermore, if you do not read what is being presented to you, then WHAT ARE YOU DOING HERE?

The FES is likewise under no obligation to put up with your constant spamming, where you post a certain reference time and time again, ignoring the fact that you were debunked right from the beginning.

You are telling everyone that you just can't bothered, your precious little universe would be shattered by the references you refuse to read.

To be fair flat earth was debunked more than 2000 years ago and here you are.

Prove flat Earth was debunked more than 2000 years ago. What were the arguments and who was invovled and what was the date and who recorded the event? The words of the opposition donít carry any weight.

Flat earth was debunked by ancient greeks more than 2000 years ago, since then it has been all down hill for FE. For instance Aristotle made this deduction after observing different stars could be seen when travelling further south. Remember the earth has a south celestial pole and a north celestial pole? Well Aristotle was smart enough see the proof of spherical earth in the night sky, all by himself without using youtube, just watching the stars. Really smart people those ancient greeks. Have you ever observed and studied the stars Platt Terra? I mean the real sky, not in youtube.

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Flat Earth General / Re: When will RE Community Accept Defeat?
« on: September 14, 2019, 02:48:03 PM »
The Gleasonís Map is ďScientifically and Practically Correct.Ē The following video proves this with verifying distance from one location to another and also verifies longitude and latitude. The video includes details on how to measure longitude, latitude and distance correctly according to the Gleasonís map.

The opposition have a big problem with our map being correct and they want it to be known as incorrect.  So, donít believe what the professional deniers say. It is their job to lie and discredit us and the Gleasonís map in any way they can.



That's great news for you. Can you now tell us the distance from SF to Boston using this method?

Why?

Because that was asked to you several times and you never answered the question?

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Flat Earth General / Re: The RE Community Has a New Enemy
« on: September 14, 2019, 02:28:10 PM »
I am under no obligation to go into detail on all the copy-pasta that you post.

A sure sign of rudeness toward this forum and your readers.

I did read your reference, all 24 pages of it.

Furthermore, if you do not read what is being presented to you, then WHAT ARE YOU DOING HERE?

The FES is likewise under no obligation to put up with your constant spamming, where you post a certain reference time and time again, ignoring the fact that you were debunked right from the beginning.

You are telling everyone that you just can't bothered, your precious little universe would be shattered by the references you refuse to read.

To be fair flat earth was debunked more than 2000 years ago and here you are.

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Flat Earth General / Re: When will RE Community Accept Defeat?
« on: September 14, 2019, 02:24:27 PM »
The Gleasonís Map is ďScientifically and Practically Correct.Ē The following video proves this with verifying distance from one location to another and also verifies longitude and latitude. The video includes details on how to measure longitude, latitude and distance correctly according to the Gleasonís map.

The opposition have a big problem with our map being correct and they want it to be known as incorrect.  So, donít believe what the professional deniers say. It is their job to lie and discredit us and the Gleasonís map in any way they can.



That's great news for you. Can you now tell us the distance from SF to Boston using this method?

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Flat Earth General / Re: What else do Flat-Earthers believe?
« on: September 13, 2019, 04:41:31 AM »
Yes it looks flat and it looks like the sun is hiding underground during the night.  Evidence for old flat earth wins.

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Flat Earth General / Re: When will RE Community Accept Defeat?
« on: September 13, 2019, 02:06:39 AM »
It's amazing the Mason symbol actually represents a Flat Earth. That's one of the secrets found in the Gleason map. The thieves and their kind have been exposed.

Can you see it?



The Glenson map doesn't represent known distances accurately, this fact is very easily proven.


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Flat Earth General / Re: The RE Community Has a New Enemy
« on: September 13, 2019, 12:39:00 AM »

Einstein original equations apply only TO STATIC SITUATIONS.

They do not have A BOUNDED DYNAMIC SOLUTION.

This is the reason why A. Gullstrand refused to give Einstein the Nobel prize for general relativity.

Einstein's equations cannot be applied to Mercury's perihelion, or lensing, or to the bending of light.

That might be a valid critic to Einstein GR. However non of the physicists critic with GR are proposing aether waves pressure as alternative to GR. GR is incomplete, some physicist claim GR is wrong, but that doesn't automatically lead to aether wave pressure.

Showing issues with GR is not enough. You also need to show how your aether waves pressure fits all the facts better than GR. The only way you can do this is denying all the facts that don't fit your theory, such as all space missions. That's why nobody takes your theories seriously, they are just pseudoscience. 

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or admit that rockets do work in a vacuum?

The ring shaped exhaust rocket CANNOT function in pure vacuum (without even scalar waves, ether).

A proven fact.

I take that is proven by your Romanian book, is that the case? Or are there any documents on the subject outside of Romania?

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There is no pure vacuum even right under the dome and right above it: you still have the ether waves travelling through the vacuum with no problems at all.

I wonder what experiments did you perform in order to arrive to this conclusion. Did you take a sample of the dome?

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Flat Earth General / Re: The RE Community Has a New Enemy
« on: September 12, 2019, 04:40:15 AM »
mountains of evidence

Completely wrong.

The spherical earth hypothesis is but the parturition of the mountain and the birth of the mouse.

And to prove your point to refer to authors investigating alternative methods of propulsion in space, wrap drives and interstellar travel. Good job.

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Flat Earth General / Re: The RE Community Has a New Enemy
« on: September 12, 2019, 01:52:39 AM »
You did not DEBUNK anything.


I'm not trying to debunk anything, publish your ideas and submit them to peer review if you would like them debunked. Or post them to a science forum and see what happens.

I'm only posting the conclusions of the papers you are linking. I don't know why that bothers you so much.

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Flat Earth General / Re: Jupiter and its moons
« on: September 12, 2019, 01:21:16 AM »
The black sun is invisible, only  NASA knows where it is... and well, timeanddate.com must also know, since they also calculate eclipse paths.

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If you think that "the whole formula is meaningless" then please show YOUR DERIVATION of the rocket thrust.

Enough of this crap.

The rocket thrust formula is applicable ONLY to conventional NORMAL EXHAUST.

FOR A RING SHAPED EXHAUST, the rocket thrust formula is useless and inapplicable.

The ring shaped exhaust is the most advanced design in existence for rockets, much higher than the normal exhaust configuration.

The rocket relies then on the torsion field of zero point energy for the thrust.

Here are the complete details:

https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=30499.msg1740524#msg1740524





The design uses VACUUM CHAMBER PHYSICS to provide the necessary thrust.

So, the conventional rocket thrust equation is applicable only to conventional rocket designs, nothing else.

I see, you are also an ufologist. I googled "Build An UFO With Your Own Means" C. Bursuc and found only your forum post.

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Flat Earth General / Re: The RE Community Has a New Enemy
« on: September 12, 2019, 12:47:07 AM »
The experiment was carried out at the Honda R&D Institute:
http://jnaudin.free.fr/lifters/musha/Musha.pdf

CONCLUSIONS
From the theoretical analysis by the zero-point field theory, it is considered that the origin of the dynamical Biefeld-Brown effect might be attributed to the interaction of zero-point vacuum fluctuations with high potential electric field impressed to the capacitor. This result suggests that the pulsed electric field applied to the capacitor may produce artificial gravity sufficient for practical application to the space propulsion technology.


Dr. Musha's conclusions, confirming what I said.

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HERE IS THE ZERO POINT ENERGY FORMULA DERIVED BY HAISCH, RUEDA AND PUTHOFF used directly in the experiment carried out by Dr. Musha, using the BIEFELD-BROWN EFFECT, a complete confirmation of the existence of the zero point energy field:

https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=30499.msg2178412#msg2178412

Again the conclussions by Haissch-Rueda-Puthoff, since you missed them the first time:

In conclusion (i) it appears that a magnetic component of the Lorentz force arises in ZPF-matter interactions in accelerating reference frames such that the property of resisting acceleration which defines inertia could be attributed to this interaction. (ii) Newton's equation of motion F=rna thus appears to be made explainable directly by ZPF electrodynamics. (iii) The equivalence of the ZPF inertial mass derived here and the ZPF gravitational mass in the Sakharov-Puthoff model of Newtonian gravity would appear to provide some corroboration to this aspect of the principle of equivalence. (iv) Alternatively, if the principle of equivalence is taken as given, our argument for inertia expounded here seems to provide some independent collateral support for the concept of ZPF-based Newtonian gravity developed in the Sakharov-Puthoff model. (v) Finally, a causal and quantifiable basis for Mach's principle is suggested.

You are just making a whole lot of assumptions based on a couple of highly speculative papers. These scientist are researching alternative propulsion methods for space travel, yet in your mind they confirm some sort of luminiferous ether theory, whatever.

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Again, your statements have been debunked in less than 20 seconds.

It takes 20 seconds two do your copypasta spam.

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Flat Earth General / Re: The RE Community Has a New Enemy
« on: September 12, 2019, 12:12:55 AM »
I looked at those papers by Takaaki Musha and Boyko V. Ivanov and couldn't find a single mention of ether or aether.

But you DID.


If you are talking about ZPE then just call it that, I don't think it needs another name.

Musha's short paper is purely hypothetical and speculative, just read the conclusions:
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From the theoretical analysis by the zero-point field theory, it is considered that the origin of the dynamical Biefeld-Brown effect might be attributed to the interaction of zero-point vacuum fluctuations with high potential electric field impressed to the capacitor. This result suggests that the pulsed electric field applied to the capacitor may produce artificial gravity sufficient for practical application to the space propulsion technology.

The same can be said about the other paper (Haissch-Rueda-Puthoff)

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In conclusion (i) it appears that a magnetic component of the Lorentz force arises in ZPF-matter interactions in accelerating reference frames such that the property of resisting acceleration which defines inertia could be attributed to this interaction. (ii) Newton's equation of motion F=rna thus appears to be made explainable directly by ZPF electrodynamics. (iii) The equivalence of the ZPF inertial mass derived here and the ZPF gravitational mass in the Sakharov-Puthoff model of Newtonian gravity would appear to provide some corroboration to this aspect of the principle of equivalence. (iv) Alternatively, if the principle of equivalence is taken as given, our argument for inertia expounded here seems to provide some independent collateral support for the concept of ZPF-based Newtonian gravity developed in the Sakharov-Puthoff model. (v) Finally, a causal and quantifiable basis for Mach's principle is suggested.

ZPE is currently not fully understood.  A complete quantum theory of gravitation doesn't exist yet. Current interest in ZPE by NASA and many others is geared towards new means of propulsion in space and  interstellar travel, but at this point is all highly speculative. 

Once again you are cherry picking and jumping to conclusions that have nothing to do with the conclusions and scope of the papers you are citing.

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Flat Earth General / Re: The RE Community Has a New Enemy
« on: September 11, 2019, 02:26:19 PM »

As for G, you need to put on your thinking hat: since the antigravitational force is totally caused by the presence of ether, then G is a quantum function and a vacuum repulsion reaction.


I looked at those papers by Takaaki Musha and Boyko V. Ivanov and couldn't find a single mention of ether or aether.  Takaaki Musha  seem to be more interested in alternative propulsion technologies for space travel and Ivanov mentions  wormholes and warp drives. Please someone tell these two poor souls that space travel is not possible and the stars are not that far anyway.


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Flat Earth General / Re: What else do Flat-Earthers believe?
« on: September 11, 2019, 07:56:50 AM »
It does look round from some windows


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Maybe all RE posters are bots programmed by NASA, after all it's all a huge CoNsPIrACy against FE

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Flat Earth General / Re: The RE Community Has a New Enemy
« on: September 11, 2019, 01:06:06 AM »
If the Compton wavelength argument is invalid, his unification theory stands correct.

If... If.. If... If I had to believe all your Ifs I would probably become a flatearther and black sun believer, but I would rather trust what Weyl clearly wrote: "This attempt has failed".

After going through many of your linked documents and quotations, I could verify that many of those papers are not saying anything close to what your posts suggest. I have also seen how you omit important information, like the fact that one author already admitted that the theory you are using "has failed".

You are doing exercise of cherry picking from different modern physics papers  in an attempt to resurrect an old dead theory.

I guess that works well for your followers in this forum, although I question how many of them bother to read all your links and formulas . You should probably thank me for reading your stuff and going through your links, as I'm likely one of the few who bothered to do that.

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Flat Earth General / Re: The RE Community Has a New Enemy
« on: September 11, 2019, 12:48:08 AM »
Newton based his entire theory of gravity on ETHER PRESSURE. In the official chronology of history, this theory was further developed by Nicolas Fatio de Duillier, one of his best friends. Lesage added certain features later on.

However the pressure theory developed by Lesage was not INFINITESIMAL.

The first physicist to truly develop and describe ETHER PRESSURE theory was John W. Keely.


http://u2.lege.net/John_Keely/keelytech.com/sitemap.html

Keely's theory of molecular structure:

http://u2.lege.net/John_Keely/keelytech.com/theory.html

http://u2.lege.net/John_Keely/keelytech.com/theorycontinued.html

For Weight Increase or aggregation of additional mass: When the artificial neutral center is superposed onto the natural center, the aether flows increase proportionate to the entraining amplitudes flowing through the artificial neutral center thus causing an increase in weight and a gradual INCREASE in the mass density.

Such a resonance, properly directed can cause what Keely calls "high vortex action" to decrease or increase the aether flow through the mass neutral center.

Yes, a c. XVIII idea, that was further developed during c. XIX to finally join the ranks of superseded theories in the beginning of c. XX.

Nothing wrong with XVIII theories, it just happen that this particular one has been discarded because it doesn't work and there's a superior theory called Relativity which:
- is simpler
- fits the facts much better
- has way superior predictive power

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Flat Earth General / Re: The RE Community Has a New Enemy
« on: September 11, 2019, 12:26:42 AM »
I told you that you need to become an expert in quotes involving ether.


Weyl admitted his attempt failed. That is fact. The rest is just your excuses and conspiracy theories.

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