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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Are you created in God's image?
« on: October 09, 2014, 11:34:07 PM »
If all of God's commands are moral, than you believe that killing gays, blasphemers, fortune tellers, adulterers, people who work on the sabbath, etc.  You are commanded by God to kill those people. Which according to you is the moral thing to do because whatever God does is moral.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Are you created in God's image?
« on: October 09, 2014, 11:41:16 AM »
Everything God does is moral. We are not god.

What about everything God commands of us? Is that moral?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Confirming the existence of God
« on: September 24, 2014, 03:23:23 PM »
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I've heard this argument many times. It's stupid. It's like asking why microbiologists create and study bacteria cultures. To gather information. Out of pure interest.
Microbiologists don't get all upset when their bacteria cultures don't worship them.
Neither does God.

Really?  Not in the book I read. 
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You shall not make for yourself an image in the form of anything in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the waters below.  You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, punishing the children for the sin of the parents to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me,  but showing love to a thousand generations of those who love me and keep my commandments.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Confirming the existence of God
« on: September 24, 2014, 01:04:41 PM »
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Luke 17:21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.

sorry a bit off topic, but this quote is one of my favorites.

I also like:

Matthew 6:5-6:  And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by others. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full.  But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you.


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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Confirming the existence of God
« on: September 24, 2014, 01:00:21 PM »
The biggest problem with proving/falsifying god is the claim is specifically designed to be unfalsifiable.  God was once though to be living in a cave, that only the shaman could venture into and talk to, it was a method of control, as the leaders would divulge god's bidding to their followers, usually offerings and riches.  Eventually one of the followers ventured into the forbidden cave, and found nothing.  Then God was put on top of a mountain, then up in the sky, and eventually all around us, but invisible and undetectable except by those he chooses

Yea, but the thing is, you've got your order mixed up. Theism existed before any sort of leadership system, and God was believed to be everywhere in nature at once, and then later on in history, priests and whatnot tried to say that God was in such-and-such temple and only they could talk to him.

My point still stands, and I never said that was the first instance of theism.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Confirming the existence of God
« on: September 23, 2014, 03:29:35 PM »
The biggest problem with proving/falsifying god is the claim is specifically designed to be unfalsifiable.  God was once though to be living in a cave, that only the shaman could venture into and talk to, it was a method of control, as the leaders would divulge god's bidding to their followers, usually offerings and riches.  Eventually one of the followers ventured into the forbidden cave, and found nothing.  Then God was put on top of a mountain, then up in the sky, and eventually all around us, but invisible and undetectable except by those he chooses.

If you look everywhere in the universe and find nothing, it will be claimed god is beyond the universe, if you look beyond the universe, it can be claimed he is beyond whatever is beyond the universe.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Who will watch the watchmen
« on: March 31, 2014, 01:35:40 PM »
If the state is going to have the power to collect this kind of information, we should at the very least be able to know what it is used for.  Either way, I am still not a fan of this type of surveillance. 

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Bill Nye vs. Ken Ham
« on: March 03, 2014, 08:56:57 PM »
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That was until our technology improved such that now, we can analyse ice core data with MUCH higher resolution than we previously could.. we can now see that we were WRONG about CO2 and its relationship with temperature. It lags, not precedes - by 800 years!  So now we know that as the globes temperature increases, that CAUSES Co2 to be released into the atmosphere, when it cools, it's absorbed again. So we have a problem.. the causation we attributed to Co2 no longer exists.

Scientists have known for some time that climate change is due to many factors, not JUST CO2.  Most of the climate changes in earths history are attributed to the tilt of earths axis relative to the sun, and the eccentricity of its orbit around the sun.  Other factors include volcanoes.  This initial warming causes the release of CO2 from the melting ice sheets, which in turn causes more warming.  It's called positive feedback, and it amplifies the initial warming.

This cycle happens every 41,000 years and our tilt angle is currently decreasing now, not increasing.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Bill Nye vs. Ken Ham
« on: January 19, 2014, 02:24:01 PM »
Yeah, I doubt this debate will be on equal ground.  Aron mentioned he was going to be there to video the whole thing.  That is if he is even allowed to be there.  Bill Nye would be smart to get some coaching from somebody experienced in these kinds of debates.

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Arts & Entertainment / Re: Dark Souls
« on: December 31, 2013, 08:54:58 AM »
If anybody wants to see Darks Souls at insane difficultly try this:

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These are two pros, playing co-op at NG+7.  With mods that make them permanently gravelorded, and aggressive enemies that agro at long range.  These guys lose their shit and it's hysterical.

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that interview is bullshit.  Even if he was a treasury insider, he's talking about the fed.  What insight would a treasury official have with the FRB?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: The Bible supports abortion
« on: July 26, 2013, 07:47:58 AM »
Maybe in some parts, in others they are slaughtered mercilessly at God's command.  Or by his own hand.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: The Bible supports abortion
« on: July 25, 2013, 01:31:14 PM »
Look up tansy.  I believe they are probably talking about that.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: The Bible supports abortion
« on: July 25, 2013, 10:00:39 AM »
It appears so.  Hey what happened to all the christian apologetics on this site?  Did they all leave?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: The Bible supports abortion
« on: July 25, 2013, 08:56:55 AM »
I am,  that's why I posted.  Even if they can establish life at conception, they cannot say god supports a pro life stance when his law states that abortions are permitted.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: The Bible supports abortion
« on: July 25, 2013, 08:44:21 AM »
Where in the bible does it say a fetus is the same as a human life, or life begins at conception.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: The Bible supports abortion
« on: July 25, 2013, 06:24:52 AM »
I'd like to see how that passage can be interpreted as a pro life stance.  Hell that's not even a pro choice passage, that supports abortion, voluntary or not on the woman's part, and forced sterilization.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / The Bible supports abortion
« on: July 24, 2013, 08:26:39 PM »
Oops?

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The Test for an Unfaithful Wife

11 Then the Lord said to Moses, 12 “Speak to the Israelites and say to them: ‘If a man’s wife goes astray and is unfaithful to him 13 so that another man has sexual relations with her, and this is hidden from her husband and her impurity is undetected (since there is no witness against her and she has not been caught in the act), 14 and if feelings of jealousy come over her husband and he suspects his wife and she is impure—or if he is jealous and suspects her even though she is not impure— 15 then he is to take his wife to the priest. He must also take an offering of a tenth of an ephah[c] of barley flour on her behalf. He must not pour olive oil on it or put incense on it, because it is a grain offering for jealousy, a reminder-offering to draw attention to wrongdoing.

16 “‘The priest shall bring her and have her stand before the Lord. 17 Then he shall take some holy water in a clay jar and put some dust from the tabernacle floor into the water. 18 After the priest has had the woman stand before the Lord, he shall loosen her hair and place in her hands the reminder-offering, the grain offering for jealousy, while he himself holds the bitter water that brings a curse. 19 Then the priest shall put the woman under oath and say to her, “If no other man has had sexual relations with you and you have not gone astray and become impure while married to your husband, may this bitter water that brings a curse not harm you. 20 But if you have gone astray while married to your husband and you have made yourself impure by having sexual relations with a man other than your husband”— 21 here the priest is to put the woman under this curse—“may the Lord cause you to become a curse[d] among your people when he makes your womb miscarry and your abdomen swell. 22 May this water that brings a curse enter your body so that your abdomen swells or your womb miscarries.”  --Numbers 5

God sanctions baby killing.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trayvon Martin case
« on: July 21, 2013, 03:10:29 PM »
How do we know Trayvon threw the first punch?
We don't know it, but it's the only story we have to go off of and unless Zimmerman started a fight only to be quickly laid out by a skinny kid, then I'd say it's likely.

Considering Zimmerman's comments on the 911 call before the altercation, it certainly is possible.  I wouldn't just assume Martin attacked Zimmerman, maybe it started with an argument, Martin tried to get away, then Zimmerman grabbed or pushed him, prompting Trayvon to fight back, just as an alternative scenario.  We don't really know what happened before the fight started at all except what Zimmerman said, but remember his story changed several times.

Just a consideration, if Zimmerman did start the fight, and was overpowered by a younger more athletic Martin, would he still be justified in shooting him?

Also just to clarify, I agree with the verdict according to how the law is written.  The burden is on the prosecution in a criminal case to prove that Zimmerman was not in danger of his life in order to beat stand your ground, and unfortunately they couldn't.  However, in a civil case the burden would be flipped, Zimmerman would have to prove his life was in danger, which could have a very different outcome.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trayvon Martin case
« on: July 16, 2013, 06:57:36 PM »
How do we know Trayvon threw the first punch?

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Arts & Entertainment / Re: Dark Souls
« on: July 01, 2013, 10:50:43 AM »
Sometimes it's fun.  J only do it now if I want in the sun bros.  BTW I'm playing a dark wraith for the first time.  Its fun being a dick.

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Arts & Entertainment / Re: Dark Souls
« on: July 01, 2013, 07:05:58 AM »
Maybe I'll take him on with my strength build.  Try and cut off the tail and get that cool looking sword.

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Arts & Entertainment / Re: Dark Souls
« on: June 30, 2013, 08:15:37 PM »
Never fought kalamut.  Heard as much though.

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Arts & Entertainment / Re: Dark Souls
« on: June 30, 2013, 07:58:28 PM »
Four Kings are very formulaic and predictable, and they can very easily be tanked. O&S on the other hand are always a bit of a chaotic affair.
True,  I've always had trouble with them at lvl 30-40 but no problem with o&s.  Maybe because kings have more HP.

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Arts & Entertainment / Re: Dark Souls
« on: June 30, 2013, 07:25:15 PM »
Much.  But I like to kill ornstien last because you get the Leo ring.  Very useful ring if u can utilize it.

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Arts & Entertainment / Re: Dark Souls
« on: June 29, 2013, 01:54:35 PM »
Four Kings are harder IMO.  Never had much of a problem with O&S except when I was new.

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The Lounge / Re: E-Cigarettes
« on: June 28, 2013, 07:13:32 PM »
2 months tobacco free today.  Went to the doctor and showed him the e-cig.  Mainly to ask health questions, he was overjoyed and even wanted the address of the place so he could send other patients there.

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The Lounge / Re: E-Cigarettes
« on: June 26, 2013, 01:39:35 PM »
I have this.  Much better than tobacco now that I switched.  Easiest way to quit IMO.


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The Lounge / Re: E-Cigarettes
« on: June 25, 2013, 05:49:19 PM »
Worked extremely well for me.  Quit cigarettes in a week.  I don't use the shitty disposable ones though.  And yes it certainly does give you a throat and lung hit if you get the variable voltage batteries.

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Arts & Entertainment / Re: Dark Souls
« on: June 21, 2013, 06:47:24 PM »
I love farming silver knights there.  1 minute nets you about 11k souls if I remember correctly.  Its how I learned to parry finally.

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