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Well kinda.... Trump was a lying con man afterall. And that is objectively true. Also Trump shares none of the goals stated above so there is no way having him in office longer would help you get there at all. He thinks climate change is bullshit, loves making rich people richer and for a long time pushed covid as being a hoax and still doesn't wear a mask himself  :-*

Anyway. I am curious that if our goals are the same, what would your plan be to get there?

People really overestimate how much the President actually impacts their daily lives, sheesh. Did Trump personally come into your house and prevent you from recycling or steal the car keys for your fuel-efficient vehicle?

And I don't care how rich rich people are. Fuck if I care. Income inequality is a terrible measure of average quality of life, which has risen considerably over time. I'm more interested in employment rates and inflation.

Yeup, his COVID rhetoric was dead wrong. Doesn't mean I didn't wear a mask or social distance just because Drumpf told me I was being a dummy. I have a functioning brain.

I also don't have a solid plan for much of anything, really. I won't pretend that I do. I've got other shit to do, my understanding only stretches so far, and I'm not a politician -- it just ain't my job. I know I oppose measures that increase the scope of government and unnecessarily harm small businesses though...

The Lounge / Re: RIP Larry King
« on: Today at 06:52:43 PM »
He could have died if he simply fell down.  Does that mean if I pushed him and he died from his injuries I could use 'he was old and would have died eventually anyway' as a defense?

Saying COVID killed him isn't exaggerating, COVID can hit healthy people hard enough to kill them, let alone the elderly.

Do we charge someone with manslaughter for accidentally sneezing on an immunocompromised individual while waiting in line at the bank?

Vice-versa, do we blame COVID for killing someone who's got a whole slew of other health issues and been knockin' on Death's door for a good minute now?

As opposed to the other 80+ million who are seen as vindictive socialists?

By some, yes.

For me, no. I see the 80+ million who voted for Joe Biden as simply being people with some political differences.

But it's becoming rapidly apparent -- and it was visible from miles away, like a candle on a mountain on a pitch black night -- that really "unity" means submission: that is, submitting to what Democrats want or else you're a this or a that. I can't criticize lockdowns or question the efficacy of the vaccine without being a stupid asshole who thinks COVID is a hoax and personally murdered someone's 97-year-old grandmother who already had heart disease and type 2 diabetes, right? It's all extremes and presumptions.

People are just so unable to see past their own ideological entrenchments these days. And they don't think for themselves much either -- they just tune into CNN (or FOX) for their daily dose of spoon-fed dribble. 

The only real unity that's ever gonna occur is when we quit seeing each other as enemies and just see each other as people with some different political opinions, i.e. over 90% of people, probably. That, and people gotta pick their fights. BREAKING NEWS: You don't have everything figured out; you don't have all the answers; you can't save the world. Everyone thinks they're the fuckin' Chairman of the U.N. Security Council or some shit. Like Deborah, it's Facebook. No one fucking asked you.

Anyways, I'm rambling, but there's a lot of disconcerting stuff happening and none of these issues which have arisen are gonna go away anytime soon unless people change their attitudes and broaden their horizons. 

And yeah, its funny how we all have the same goals but decide that we don't and we wanna destroy America (because that's what you do to a nation you control....) rather than just debate the "how" we get to where we wanna go.

That's on you guys. According to y'all, me and 74 million other Americans are duped idiots. There's no way we can have a conversation when you make so many assumptions and cast so much judgment.

Renewable energy technology is the way of the future. A government that invests in it will be prosperous long int the future. Oil/gas is finite, dirty and belongs in the past. When that runs out, any country that did not invest or set up for it may as well be a 3rd world country. Why in Gods name do poor people care about increasing the wealth of oil tycoons so much? It boggles the mind

Renewable energy technology is becoming increasing cheaper and if invested in will actually provide more jobs then oil. People also dont take into consideration the money it costs in repairing the damage of more frequent natural disasters or lower crop yields as a result of a warming planet. People are just so narrow minded and are too stubborn to change. The transition isn't going to be seamless because frankly the world has denied climate change for so long and sat on their hands about it to make oil and gas conglomerates richer and richer. The transition to renewable should have started decades ago and the longer you wait, the more rough and costly it's going to be.

The pandemic being used as justification - yeah, I'm sure public health and safety is such an awful thing to bear. I mean wearing a mask is so damaging to my freedom. FFS cry me a river. Do you have a sook that there is a law that says you have to wear clothing in public? A fat obese man with giant man boobs can strut around half naked but a breast feeding mother is an outrage against public decency. Society is f'ed up

Australia continues to mine for coal on prime agricultural land and couldn't give 2 fucks about damaging the Great Barrier Reef. The knock on effects in frigging with our marine life can not be understated. Lets just say, if the phytoplankton in the oceans disappear (and a warming climate is doing exactly that), so will the human race

Christ, do you just gloss every post, assume what everyone thinks, and say totally asinine shit all the time? Or just on the weekends?

Renewable energy is great. Fuck oil tycoons. Wear a mask, please -- because they fucking work -- and breast feed wherever you want, whenever you want. Yes, our oceans are important and we should take steps to preserve them.

Again, I agree with all the ends. You're talking about ends and we're in agreement there. I just don't agree with the means to get there. And that doesn't mean I think the "other side's" means are awful and horrible and terrible -- I just don't think they're the best way to go about doing things.

Y'know, I think I still stand by my vote back in November.

It's becoming apparent, very clear -- and very fast -- that we're heading a certain direction now. With the Democrats having unified control over the government for minimum two years and a good shot at retaining that control in the midterms, things are gonna go the way they will and there's no stopping that.

And while I oftentimes agree with Democrats' ends, I disagree with their means. So that's frustrating. My vote for Trump was essentially a repudiation of Democrats' means. For example, I'm for individual liberty, personal responsibility, and small government. Democrats are more-so for collective good, mandated responsibility, and big government. We have some of the same ends in mind, like empowering working class folks, having people take the right actions, and a functional government that works for the capital-P People. We just don't really agree on the in-between junk.

But I'm okay with it. I do like just how productive and hyper-focused the Biden administration has been so far. I don't like a few things he's done, like halting the pipeline, but I like a few of the other things he's done, like lifting the transgender ban on the military and restoring some LGBTQ+ protections. (Note: believe it or not, regardless of whether you like certain peoples or agree with how they live their lives, everyone deserves basic, fundamental protections and to be treated with decency.)

At the end of the day, is what it is. I stand by my vote. I'm not too hung up on how things have gone/are going and I think it'll be fine in the long haul. I don't think of myself as a hardcore ideologue, so if the other side can make a fair case with evidence for why they're doing things the way they are, I'm happy to hear 'em out and go along with it, if it sounds convincing enough.

I'll say, though, that some things are gone for good. There are certain individual liberties which I fear may now be irreversibly encroached upon per a political agenda with the pandemic being used as justification.  There are some economic shifts coming up which I worry about. The world's always gonna be in turmoil, naturally, but nonetheless.

Yeah, when your voter base is mostly upper-middle class white folks, you don't really give a fuck whether working class African-American folks can make it to the polls or not.

The Lounge / Re: RIP Larry King
« on: January 23, 2021, 10:02:08 AM »
I think a gust of wind could've taken out someone in his poor condition, honestly.

Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Why do you support donald trump
« on: January 23, 2021, 10:01:08 AM »
What a dipfuck.

The Lounge / Re: RIP Larry King
« on: January 23, 2021, 09:02:58 AM »
Yes, the 87-year-old with heart disease and type 2 diabetes died of... wait for it... COVID-19!  ::)

... plenty money is still there or actually very little. ...
Fascinating! Tell us more about the plenty-or-very-little amount of money you have.

Schrödinger's money.

Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Why do you support donald trump
« on: January 21, 2021, 06:09:39 AM »
The Democrats definitely need to unify themselves if they wanna really take advantage of these next two years and prove something, anything to the American people.

Old-school Democrats, democratic socialists, Bernie Bros, progressives, AOC-simps... whatever. Figure it out, settle your differences, and get to work.

I don't necessarily agree with their chosen routes, but we have a lot of the same destinations in mind. I seriously, really do wish them the best of luck and I hope they succeed in their endeavors and policies.

The Lounge / Re: Why do you think the earth is flat?
« on: January 21, 2021, 06:07:17 AM »
Another answer can be simple ego. 

That's what I figure.

It sucks to be an everybody's man. We ain't a part of the owners of this country -- they own us. You and I aren't in the special club. We don't have immense wealth at our disposal. Yadda yadda.

But... perhaps you and I possess knowledge that hardly anyone else does: the earth is flat, duh!

It makes these people feel good to be a part of something seemingly special, something larger than themselves. Even if it's stupid and obviously false. 

Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Why do you support Joe Biden?
« on: January 21, 2021, 06:03:14 AM »
I'm watching Biden's first press briefing.  It's so unpresidential.  I guess it's supposed to be daily now.  They're just asking her questions and she's answering them.  The hell is that about? 

Biden is supposed to do something ridiculous like surrendering North Dakota to Canada then the press asks the press secretary why in god's name he'd do that.  Then the press secretary is supposed to attack them as communists.  And why is there so much quiet?  Why isn't there a helicopter in the background?

This is not an America that I recognize.

Eh, I could get used to this.

Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Qanon Conspiracy
« on: January 21, 2021, 05:35:52 AM »
Whaaat, the Qracle was wrong?

I'm diggity down.

Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Why do you support Joe Biden?
« on: January 20, 2021, 12:10:51 PM »
Nah, we're good.

You should read up on sugar to see just how bad it is for you. --> in your alternative medicine book?  ;D

Lets try an easy one.  Smoking nicotine.  Cigarettes are insanely more dangerous,, addictive and bad for you than marijuana.  You up for banning smoking?  Good luck.
--> You didn't mention nicotine. I agree nicotine is at least as bad, probably worse.

Smoking kills people. Drinking kills people. Sugar and overeating kills people. Not getting enough exercise kills people. Marijuana ahh... not so much.
--> That's such a crap argument. 1) Death rate is not all that matter. Other aspects, such as quality of life, burden of disease, health care costs etc matter, too. 2) Just because other things are bad doesn't mean weed can't be bad, too 3) just because other things kill, too, doens't mean deaths due to weed are unimportant.

Why are you so shit at using the forum's 'Quote' feature?

Whaaat, burning stuff and inhaling the fumes is bad for your lungs? Since when?

Arts & Entertainment / Re: Phil Spector dead
« on: January 18, 2021, 09:24:40 AM »
Thanks for your contributions to music production, ya dick.

Arts & Entertainment / Re: Now Playing
« on: January 17, 2021, 05:49:44 PM »
Coheed & Cambria - The Suffering

Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: The attack on 'free speech'
« on: January 17, 2021, 09:10:59 AM »
I just hope that in the next two years, shit gets done. That's the major benefit of having a unified government.

Of course I worry about some of the shit some of them want to get done, like the Green New Deal. But I'm hopeful for other things, like vaccine distribution for COVID, the federal decriminalization of marijuana, and supporting nuclear power.

It's gonna be a mixed bag as per usual. I disagree more often with Democrats than I do Republicans. I'm glad Biden, who's fairly moderate, is the one who snagged the nomination and won.

Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: The attack on 'free speech'
« on: January 17, 2021, 07:20:36 AM »
In theory (no pun intended), critical theory should promote critical thinking. Really it's just a bunch-a doomer college students bashing capitalism. Y'know, the same capitalism that props up their "safe space" university and allows them to own the iPhones they Tweet against capitalism on... I digress.

I think education has trended the right way for a few reasons, like:

1) An increased availability and use of technology in classrooms (e.g. one-one schools).

2) A transition from emphasizing students with disabilities to students of all abilities (i.e. RTI model).

3) A more ongoing, diverse approach to the professional development of teachers (e.g. being sensitive to trauma, handling behavioral issues more effectively, etc.).

Education will never be perfect, and its improvement isn't exactly a linear process, but I do think there are improvements being made.

Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: The attack on 'free speech'
« on: January 17, 2021, 05:25:24 AM »
I'm of the opinion that, it's ultimately education and teaching critical thinking is the only solution?

Yup yup. The American education system is fairly pitiful. But it's trending the right way, I think.

Mitt Romney. Maybe Dan Crenshaw.

This thread has been bumped by uglies more than a porn star bumps uglies.

Let it go gracefully.

Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Why do you support Joe Biden?
« on: January 15, 2021, 12:25:11 PM »
Now we shift from Trumpgret to Joegret.

Arts & Entertainment / Re: Now Playing
« on: January 15, 2021, 05:56:52 AM »
John Carpenter - Vortex

I voted no because I don't like the precedent it could set that whenever a party controls all 3 sections of the government, that they could get whatever number of justices installed they want.  I do think that term limits need to be applied to Supreme Court justices, that justice nomination "norms" need to be codified so that they can't be wielded like a sword whenever it seems fit, and I think it might be a good idea to require 2/3rds of the senate to confirm a justice to be able to moderate who gets in and prevent extremists on the bench.

The "norms" I refer to are along the lines of the way McConnell refused to even bring Garland up for a vote in Obama's last year with 11 months left on his term, but rushed through Barret with about 3 months left on Trump's term and an election happening in under a month.  Let's go ahead and codify no justice nominations in an election year and end this stupid rule being used as a weapon.

I'd say I agree with your points.

But Judas Priest and Whitesnake are awesome.  :(

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