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Indeed.  That you dug up a four year old thread does not garner victory in your debate, nor does it prove any argument on your part.

I've lurked on these forums for just a short time and I'll be honest it's mostly for entertainment value.  I could attempt to engage as many others have done in debate, or questions, but I've read enough into the Flat Earth to know what the answers will be.  Flat Earth is a belief structure entirely based on all of these individuals who know beyond any shadow of any doubt that they have been lied to by...almost everyone else.  They have taken it upon themselves to open doors and seek what will reinforce those beliefs, be it a religious, physical, and/or a scientific proof.  They go through each day knowing this so firmly and so absolutely that the burden of proof must fall to everyone else to prove them wrong.  I've read many threads here on this website and these forums exist as a medium to that ideology. This is their home turf and you will never disprove that no matter the argument, at least from their perspective.

For example, I could do much the same thing with a theory I can create based on my own observations and surroundings.  I was born and raised in southern Florida, and my claim is that there is no such thing as snow, it does not exist.  I know there are pictures, and predictable weather patterns, and seasons, and a whole basis of science and discovery behind it, but yet I have never experienced this so called snow.  I have been lied to.  The Earth is a tropic paradise, I see it each day.  This must be a conspiracy driven by evil intent and insatiable greed.  This fakery of snow so people can spend billions on clothing, ski equipment, snowmobiles, and mountain resorts must come to light.  So I venture forth in the world (to my front porch) with my loyal followers (my chihuahua and my cat) to enlighten the masses.  Many laugh, and offer proof that I scoff upon.  You accept being a blind fool I say.  Some bring me actual snow in a desperate attempt of paragon evidence.  Bah! I say again, I can create the same thing from the freezer in my kitchen. How could magical icicles fall from the sky? It's never happened!  On and on, I can create a solution against any forth coming evidence that snow is real, and for as long as I remain in southern Florida and base all my ideas on my surroundings I can never be disproven in any way.  Snowless Earth wins again, and again...and again.

The point is, you can take all of the most prominent hierarchy of The Flat Earth Society, load them into a rocketship and launch them into Space.  Have them all put on spacesuits and flush them out of the airlock.  They will all look down upon the Earth below and say, "Yup, looks pretty flat to me! I was right all along!"  Matter of fact, I've read that a man built a homemade Rocket last year and did almost exactly that.  Flat Earth is like watching a train-wreck in slow motion, like tuning into Keeping up with the Kardashians every week and you are all but left with wondering "How the Fuck did this happen?"

Though for myself, I'm glad we have the Flat Earth Society in certain respects.  Reading these debates I've learned so much more about Science, Physics, and the Cosmos beyond than I ever have in all my years of schooling.  In regards to the Flat Earth Theory itself I find it is endlessly fascinating to watch how boundless the human imagination can go.  I don't take it upon myself to debunk the FET, I don't feel the need to. As a repair technician I've seen all kinds of people do crazy things.  Try as I might to prevent breakdowns and costly repairs it always happens again and again.  In my line of work we call it Building a Better Idiot.  Here, you can present what you will but if you think for a second that you can present evidence so compelling that you'll change the hearts and minds of these believers then you are in for a long haul.  My one suggestion is that if you really, truly seek to engage and challenge what these people believe, then you must learn their perspective.  Otherwise be silent and enjoy the show.

All of that being said, I'm sorry Sphericalearth, but you lose and will always lose in this medium.  Coming back with a haughty

Can anyone answer my questions now ?

Of a four year old thread will not resolve or convince anyone.  I fail to see why you even bothered.

 

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: SpaceX rocket launch?
« on: January 05, 2019, 08:12:48 AM »
No rocket could hit the dome because no rocket could reach it before disintegrating or losing its thrust or spending all of its fuel well before.

But...the video is the offered proof that the dome exists.  If what you state is true, then what did it hit if anything and why would it disintegrate at all?  The claim in the video was that the rocket reached an altitude of 73 miles with some give or take variables, which would mean that the distance to reach this Dome can be measured.  Perhaps only the apex of this Dome can't be reached, but if it's in the shape of a Dome then why not just travel closer to the edge of the Flat Earth and launch a rocket towards where the Dome meets or is there another reason why anyone at all couldn't do that?  Oh wait...

  • No Rocket could ever reach the Dome because...reasons
  • We can't go to the Edge either because...Antarctic Treaty reasons
  • No one knows how anything at all will interact with this Dome because...No one has ever or will ever reach it.  It's a magical place
 

Maybe this video should have been used to challenge the concept that the Earth doesn't spin, or some more in-depth analysis of why the Rocket would return to the surface by means other than gravity since that doesn't exist either.  Instead we get a shit pile of "Look it hit the Dome!!, but didn't crash because we don't know why, and the burden of proof relies on someone proving the Dome doesn't exist because there IS a Dome but we can never reach it."

Following all this and in relation to the OP, the SpaceX program has most likely proven several times over that the Earth we live on is a spinning Globe, with a feint by linking a stupid ass Rocket hit a Dome clip found on You Tube as proof that it's all lies. 

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