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Flat Earth General / Re: Genuine interest about FE mentality
« on: February 25, 2021, 01:44:55 PM »
You could make an argument that Eugenics are immoral but you can't in good faith say that it doesn't work.

We do it with every animal we make use of.

Forced Eugenics on the human race is abhorrent and disgusting. For shame you think it's workable.
How so? I am all for us as a species getting better. And yes, damn the torpedoes/morals. Some will be left behind, myself quite probably included.

EDIT: The way things go, Eugenics is the way. It will be put to effect. No one sane will say otherwise. You want your kid to be better than you? At least I’d like that. I’d rather it is not in ”Dog’s hands”.

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Flat Earth General / Re: Grazing occultations
« on: February 15, 2021, 10:36:04 PM »
The new wave of flat earth theories are in general poorly thought out and lack the rigor of our generations contributions. Its unfortunately, but unavoidable since most of them are Trump bootlickers and anti-vaxers.
Hear, hear!

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Parts per million?

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Flat Earth General / Re: What would change your mind?
« on: February 08, 2021, 10:58:45 AM »
Sceptimatic is a Newcastle United fan. You have to cut some slack, as it is a handicap.

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Flat Earth General / Re: Flat Earth Proof
« on: February 07, 2021, 07:35:20 AM »
It happened so long ago. The planes were crap.

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Flat Earth General / Re: Science Conspiracy
« on: February 07, 2021, 12:19:16 AM »
Quote
  If you publish a paper in Russian, in a Russian journal, it is not likely to get much attention from people outside Russia who don't speak Russian.

Yes, but isn't there chance revolutionary paper is there, in russian?
I highly doubt that. Someone would try to claim it their own such a thing existed.

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Flat Earth General / Re: What would change your mind?
« on: January 31, 2021, 06:42:10 AM »


Again, WHAT MAGIC STOPS THE BLUE LINE?

Central (crosshair) vision through a level tube.
:D

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Flat Earth General / Re: What would change your mind?
« on: January 15, 2021, 07:58:45 AM »
This thread is a prime example of how deep a hole FE has dug themselves. The toilet paper roll experiment, and travel of light, only prove one thing.

I, for one, am only happy sceptimatic continues. He is doing God's work, so to speak.

NEVER GIVE UP! KEEP AT IT!

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Flat Earth General / Re: What would change your mind?
« on: January 11, 2021, 04:13:31 AM »
Sceptimatic, why can't you answer the question regarding the blue line in this picture?



I find it interesting you do not seem to think it is possible for it to reach the eye(s).

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The Lounge / Re: Racism
« on: January 07, 2021, 06:32:45 AM »
No but it is enriching my own life experience indulging in another culture. I did not lose 'my culture' over it

Having Korean restaurants, grocery stores, churches dotted around the country and relaxing at home (or work!) watching KDramas on Netflix etc doesn't remove 'my culture'.

Same goes for any other country in the world and what they can add to a country. Chinese, Indian, Mexican, African, Middle Eastern etc. Having all their stuff, stories, culture etc it all makes living so much richer

Of course a host country has it's own laws and they are expected to be followed. There is no special dispensation to have one law for 'x' ethnic peoples. Someone from Saudi Arabia or a follower of Islam coming to Australia cant marry multiple wives for example.
More than fair. It was more about the definition, as it states:

In reference to sociology, multiculturalism is the end-state of either a natural or artificial process (for example: legally-controlled immigration) and occurs on either a large national scale or on a smaller scale within a nation's communities.

And yeah, South Korea is not exactly the front runner it comes to accepting other cultures.

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The Lounge / Re: Racism
« on: January 07, 2021, 06:00:20 AM »
I had the best time of my life when I went to Korea, stayed in Korean family homes, surrounded by their language, eating only Korean food, experiencing day to day life of Koreans and of course when in Korea, spend a night in a Jjimjilbang, I am much more enriched. Nothing has been taken from me, but much has been added to me. THAT is the greatness of multiculturalism
But that is not exactly multiculturalism.

Somewhat related as when I was South Korea I was denied access to a bar/club because I am white. While I can understand the reasons (thank you US armed forces stationed there), it was interesting as it was a first for me.

Not about my lily white ass, but in general:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism_in_South_Korea

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Flat Earth General / Re: What would change your mind?
« on: January 05, 2021, 10:08:05 AM »
I know it so I'm comfortable with what I know.
Yeah, rrright. I doubt you are winning many over. But then again that is not your goal, as you are content being the only one in the know.

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Flat Earth General / Re: What would change your mind?
« on: January 05, 2021, 04:39:49 AM »
What the hell, sceptimatic?

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Flat Earth General / Re: What would change your mind?
« on: January 05, 2021, 12:46:17 AM »
No I don't. The crosshairs are in the center of the image taken. Are you saying this is a deliberate dupe? Is that the schtick you're sticking with? That anything presented that goes against your personal narrative is obviously faked? That's your scientific, truth seeking stance?
Scope manufacturers are a part of the conspiracy, too.

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Flat Earth General / Re: What would change your mind?
« on: January 04, 2021, 08:10:19 AM »
It is tragic, I know :(

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Flat Earth General / Re: What would change your mind?
« on: January 04, 2021, 06:04:20 AM »
Everyone, everywhere, ever tried the spirit level thing is in on the scam.

It is scary world one really thinks like that.

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Flat Earth General / Re: What would change your mind?
« on: January 04, 2021, 12:59:58 AM »
But to me that does not appear to be the case.

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Flat Earth General / Re: What would change your mind?
« on: January 04, 2021, 12:33:16 AM »
https://mctoon.net/horizon-does-not-rise-to-eye-level/

The claim that the horizon always rises to eye level is very common and quite old.  One early claims are from Samuel Rowbotham in his book “Earth not a Globe” from 1881.  From page 172: “…it is shown that the surface of the sea appears to rise up to the level or altitude of the eye…”  This is also the topic of his experiment 15 in the book.  Sadly this experiment is horribly conceived and falls far short of an actual scientific experiment.

Is this what you base your assertion on, sceptimatic?

From Quora:

Samuel Rowbotham (aka “Parallax”) was the L Ron Hubbard of flat earthery, the inventor of ‘zeteticism’, and author of “Zetetic Astronomy: Earth not a Globe.” Nearly all flerf pseudo-science originates there - nothing much has been added in the 150-odd years since. Victorian morons were fantastically well-educated compared to modern internet morons, and Rowbotham had a grasp of astronomy and trigonometry and was able to produce spurious calculations and proofs that modern flerfers can only gaze at in wonder.

Not so sure of the "well-educated", but would still agree what they did was better than YouTube research.

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Flat Earth General / Re: What would change your mind?
« on: December 31, 2020, 08:41:55 AM »
Where are the FE scientists who have conducted experiments? Beyond the Curve showed two experiments, which both failed*.

There was the one who photographed a channel or canal back in the day. Are they the only ones?

*Did not give the result they expected.

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Flat Earth General / Re: Flat earth models
« on: December 24, 2020, 11:12:51 AM »
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sámi_people

The Sámi people (/ˈsɑːmi/; also spelled Sami or Saami) are an indigenous Finno-Ugric people inhabiting Sápmi, which today encompasses large northern parts of Norway, Sweden, Finland and the Kola Peninsula within the Murmansk Oblast of Russia. The Sámi have historically been known in English as Lapps or Laplanders, but these terms are regarded as offensive by some Sámi people, who prefer the area's name in their own language, "Sápmi".

What I was taught was Sami people live in Lapland. Thankfully fits the description.

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Flat Earth General / Re: Flat earth models
« on: December 24, 2020, 01:05:34 AM »
How do you know that?


You should know this too since you are from Finland, you are very close to the portal, just go North.
That is true, but I have never been to Lapland. I am not proud of it, but that is how it is.

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Flat Earth General / Re: Flat earth models
« on: December 23, 2020, 12:42:27 PM »
How do you know that?

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Flat Earth General / Re: What would change your mind?
« on: December 21, 2020, 10:59:30 AM »
JJA has all the equipment, it seems...seeing as he set it up down his slope..
Why can’t you take the picture and show us to be fools?

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Flat Earth General / Re: Flat Earthers, where is your outrage?
« on: December 21, 2020, 10:41:56 AM »
If some of you would be brave enough to steel man the FE arguments, it would be a lot more interesting.
”People want to have their thoughts taken seriously and not brushed aside. The best way to do this is to show that you understand the thrust of their arguments by improving on the way the core idea is expressed.”

While this can be considered a nice to way do things, it requires, in my opinion, the opposition to actually have something. I am sure we disgree here, but FE is not able to provide much which could be steel manned. You can only go so far in propping up something as flimsy as the different FE models.

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Flat Earth General / Re: Flat Earthers, where is your outrage?
« on: December 20, 2020, 04:39:54 AM »
Politicians are not a part of the conspiracy, and it wouldn't cost nearly as much many as you say.
How do you know they are not? And how much does the conspiracy cost?
I'm sure he'll get back to you from 2009
Oh wow. Apologies.

I was just so happy to see something ”new” I did not pay any attention to details.

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Flat Earth General / Re: Flat Earthers, where is your outrage?
« on: December 20, 2020, 04:15:02 AM »
Politicians are not a part of the conspiracy, and it wouldn't cost nearly as much many as you say.
How do you know they are not? And how much does the conspiracy cost?

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Flat Earth General / Re: What would change your mind?
« on: December 08, 2020, 02:54:50 AM »
I can obviously only speak for myself, but think this is really great and wanted to say thanks for making the effort to put your thoughts into a diagram.
I agree.

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This seems fitting.

FE studies:




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