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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: The month of Ramadan
« on: Today at 09:22:15 AM »
Saudi Arabia is the same as ISIS in their laws and punishments. It's just 'they have a badge'. Are the people of Saudi Arabia true Muslims?


Also the beard thing..... I don't get it. Why do they have it? The Quran mentions that facial hair must look clean or something but never unkempt or untidy.

But so many revered Muslims like Osama Bin Laden and Al Bagdaddi had hideous frazzled beards.

Jesus said to love thy neighbour and even your enemies

He also said that eating pork was ok - all of gods creatures were good - nothing that goes into the mouth was unclean. Just what comes out (eg the hate spewed by Mohammed)

Also, even in the Quran you can make pork 'halal'. Just bless the food before you eat it - which I'm sure most religious people do before they eat so why the hate of pork?

Do you have a neat trimmed beard yasoooo or is it long and untidy like a lot of Muslims?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: The month of Ramadan
« on: May 08, 2021, 11:27:47 PM »

I was on a train between Aswan and Luxor during Ramadan. It had the annoying seat configuration where half the rows are pointed one way, and the other half the other way. That left me sitting directly across from a Muslim who was reading his qur'an. He wanted to kill me. He alternated between getting all worked up reading the qur'an, and then staring at me with clenched, grinding teeth as his chest heaved with ragged breaths of pure rage. We spent the entire train ride like that.

Have you ever thought that you might be the issue here?   This has never happened to me and I can't imagine this guy live his life like this.

 ::)
I'm just asking.  You seem like a bit of an obsessive prick, so it could be that you just have that affect on people in general.

Then again I had a Muslim put a cutthroat razor to my neck the other day - the incident ended with me giving him money.


Tough break man. Hope they catch the bastard

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: The month of Ramadan
« on: May 08, 2021, 01:22:56 PM »

I was on a train between Aswan and Luxor during Ramadan. It had the annoying seat configuration where half the rows are pointed one way, and the other half the other way. That left me sitting directly across from a Muslim who was reading his qur'an. He wanted to kill me. He alternated between getting all worked up reading the qur'an, and then staring at me with clenched, grinding teeth as his chest heaved with ragged breaths of pure rage. We spent the entire train ride like that.

After reading the qur'an myself, I understand why he would want to butcher an infidel pig-dog like me. As verse 8:55 says, "Surely the vilest of animals in Allah's sight are those who disbelieve". Poor man, having to share a rail car with a creature lower than a slug.

How did he know you weren't a Muslim?

He correctly assumed. It's not hard to tell that a white, non-fasting, obvious Westerner who doesn't utter a single "alhumdulillah" is an infidel.

Btw, that was your take-away?

You probably dont have that poofy looking unkempt beard either. That shit looks nasty

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: The month of Ramadan
« on: May 08, 2021, 12:17:43 PM »




Allah does not forbid you as regards those who did not fight you on account of faith, and did not expel you from your homes, that you do good to them, and deal justly with them. Surely Allah loves those who maintain justice.  [Al-Mumtahana, 8]

God commands Muslims in verse

and He does not forbid you to deal kindly and justly with anyone who has not fought you for your faith or driven you out of your homes: God loves the just.
In the case of self-defense, the Muslim fights

Does Quran and Islam say kill Jews, Christians and Non ...
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What your brand of Islam calls justice, decent human beings call crimes against humanity

What do you say about the likes of the Taliban, ISIS, Al-Qaeda and other whacked up people who commit such evil in the names of Islam?

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Anyway, I'm done. It's boring doing this circle jerk with someone who is clearly disingenuous

I've been saying that about Heiwa...

Heiwa used to be fun when he would post pictures of himself (as proof he is not a bot lol) and when he would offer people to come to his office for a cup of his Nespresso coffee. But he doesn't do that anymore and he is more boring than even a bot would be

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Why is America so racist?
« on: May 08, 2021, 06:09:39 AM »
We're the single most diverse society on the planet, bar none, in history.

bar none you say?

According to this anyway, Australia is the most culturally diverse in the world. Not surprising America thinks it's number 1. You always think that! :P

https://eccv.org.au/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/Census2016_JUNE282017.pdf
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Many of  us  have  always known  Australia  is a  successful  multicultural  nation but  now  we  can  boast about  the  fact  that  Australia  is  the  most  ethnically  diverse  country  in  the  world.  With  26%  of Australians  being  born  overseas  and  49%  of  people  having  at  least  one  parent  born  overseas, Australia has 100 religions and 300 ethnic groups in our cultural melting pot. “The Census shows that Australia  has  a  higher  proportion  of  overseas-born  people  (26%)  than  the  United  States  (14%), Canada  (22%)  and  New  Zealand  (23%).  What  about  the  United  Kingdom,  you  say?  Not  even  close (13%).”Australian Bureau of Statistics, 2016 Census.

I'm sure you can find some American propaganda page boasting how great it is to cherry pick though. I'm sure every country has it's own version  8)

Looking at other pages such as wiki on cultural or ethnic diversity, many African countries take the top spot judging by whatever metric they use (Chad, for instance has more than 120 indigenous languages)

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Technology, Science & Alt Science / Re: Belly-flop Successful
« on: May 08, 2021, 02:09:15 AM »
He did successfully land it.

Was he at the controls? Is it actually him who builds and designs the rocket/ship and flies it? Or is he just the money man that throws money at egg heads but takes the credit for the accomplishments as if it's his own work...

When NASA does something, the boss of NASA doesn't take any credit as if he made it happen

But when SpaceX does something, Elon Musk is all over it....

So what? Why is that a problem?

Because his fame, how intelligent people think he is and endearment is not justified. And he's a prime example of someone who takes credit for other peoples hard work and dedication. Whatever accomplishments SpaceX makes, a team did it. Not Elon. Elon fronted the money and told them his idea what he wants done. The real brains, blood, sweat and tears that go on to make the rocket are entirely hands off from Elon.

Yet who's fugly mug gets on the news saying LOOK AT ME! I DID IT! YEAAAAHHHH!!!

Disgusting personality trait

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Technology, Science & Alt Science / Re: Belly-flop Successful
« on: May 08, 2021, 01:57:14 AM »
He did successfully land it.

Was he at the controls? Is it actually him who builds and designs the rocket/ship and flies it? Or is he just the money man that throws money at egg heads but takes the credit for the accomplishments as if it's his own work...

When NASA does something, the boss of NASA doesn't take any credit as if he made it happen

But when SpaceX does something, Elon Musk is all over it....

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: The month of Ramadan
« on: May 07, 2021, 07:37:14 PM »
One of the main principles of good health is a balanced diet. Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) emphasized the habit of eating less as a method of preventing sickness and disease. Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) said:

"Nothing is worse than a person who fills his stomach. It should be enough for the son of Adam to have a few bites to satisfy his hunger. If he wishes more, it should be: One-third for his food, one-third for his liquids, and one-third for his breath. "- Tirmidhi & Ibn Majah

I confess I spend 24 hours of the day breathing. Should I split it equally with eating and drinking?

There's only 24 hours in a day so maybe breathe for 8 hours, eat for 8 hours and drink for 8 hours?

That does seem tough!


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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: The month of Ramadan
« on: May 07, 2021, 02:01:04 PM »
Mohammed spent the nights of ramadan feasting on food and drink. It's not hard on your body to flip eating from day to night

Don't be such an elitist.

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I use duckduckgo.

This is a racist white man poll. Where is Baidu? Naver? VConnect? Tafuta? Or Yandex? There are dozens and dozens of popular search engines used around the world. This forum has members from across the plane. You want to make a poll, add them all!
I'm not racist.
I hate everyone equally.

Well your poll is still crap and lacking dozens of options. Do you just assume everyone around the world uses your white man crap?
Uhh you do know I'm Asian right?

I know you want to pretend to be one like your alt FE4 with the most ridiculous made up name. So why not put Naver on there then? You should be familiar with it but oh yeah... You never heard of it ::)

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I use duckduckgo.

This is a racist white man poll. Where is Baidu? Naver? VConnect? Tafuta? Or Yandex? There are dozens and dozens of popular search engines used around the world. This forum has members from across the plane. You want to make a poll, add them all!
I'm not racist.
I hate everyone equally.

Well your poll is still crap and lacking dozens of options. Do you just assume everyone around the world uses your white man crap?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Why is America so racist?
« on: May 07, 2021, 11:32:06 AM »
Why are the Koreans so racist?

They have their film awards and weirdly (and racistly) give them to Koreans films and film makers.

Oh you mean an award ceremony that specifically recognizes South Korean films?

From your link
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The Blue Dragon Film Awards (Korean: 청룡영화상) is an annual awards ceremony that is presented by Sports Chosun (a sister brand of the Chosun Ilbo) for excellence in film in South Korea

Contrast that to the statement about the Academy Awards wiki page
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The Academy Awards, popularly known as the Oscars,are awards for artistic and technical merit in the film industry. They are regarded as the most famous and prestigious awards in the entertainment industry around the world.

One doesn't pretend to be for a global stage while the other does.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Why is America so racist?
« on: May 07, 2021, 11:26:54 AM »
I mean it's not exactly the fault of America but, like, the Oscars are basically "Hollywood prizes" and it's dumb how they're put on a pedestal. Like, it's funny how they have to include a "best foreign language picture" category, since 99% of the time, Best Picture is gonna be something American, even though the category is not called "Best American Picture" or "Best English Language Picture". The implication is that Hollywood movies are just the best in general, always, except for maybe once or twice every now and then. It's very stupid. International festivals are better.

Yeah that's it. Despite the Oscars being an American creation, movies are submitted from more than just America. Yet the chance of a movie that was not made in America getting any prize or recognition is SFA.

If they really dont want other nations to win any prizes then they should open it to American shit only. Not open it to a global stage but then ensure they sweep to victory in every category except for the token 'foreign language'. I guess it's also a propaganda exercise that makes American audiences believe American films are the best (lol)

The 'Oscars' seem to be more and more a joke every year that no one is taking seriously anymore anyway I guess. Just like American movies

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: The month of Ramadan
« on: May 07, 2021, 11:19:32 AM »
Why do you post videos that no one looks at? Do you feel you are doing good by your religion by spamming us with this BS

You cant even write anything about them or compel us as to why we should listen to them.

We dont come here for boring videos of crap we cant understand. We come here for your words. You keep spamming us nonsense

Allah is indeed unhappy with you yasooo. Everywhere you go you leave others with a negative impression on the Islamic faith.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Why is America so racist?
« on: May 07, 2021, 11:09:12 AM »
America is so racist that they wanted their own 'international film' to win an award (Minari). So get an American production and director to cast Koreans and speak some Korean in it and call it 'foreign language'. Of course, America being America had to have the entire movie set in and based around America. ::)

I guess they got pretty pissed when 'Parasite' cleaned the floor with them last time. Remember how Trump reacted got when South Korea dared get recognition for their efforts?


Also every time I want to look up the actors from foreign films such as in Asia, I find IMDB to be utterly useless. Barely any photos of the actors. Hardly anything written in the profiles. Incomplete movie credits and it goes on. A simple internet search of the actors name reveals so much about them it's clear if the actor isn't white and American, they just don't give an F.

I thought the 'I' in IMDB stood for 'International' I guess Americas idea of International is Canada. You really have no idea there is an entire world out there peopled with people that make better movies than you.

As for the awards, dump the 'foreign' shit altogether and allow each movie to be judged and capable of the same award based on its merits. After all, one mans foreign film is another mans domestic film.

This may mean that you guys don't win as many token awards anymore. So be it. (also deserved given Hollywood's tendency to make sequels no one asked for, reboots no one wants, shitty writing, predictable formula/plots, over reliance on CGI and political/woke crap the movie goers don't want to be lectured on by a bunch of privileged upper class morons)

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: The essence of the facts
« on: May 07, 2021, 10:30:38 AM »
Can a man rape his wife yasoooo?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: The essence of the facts
« on: May 07, 2021, 09:51:44 AM »
cherry picking the rape statistics nonsense

Is there such a thing in Islam as marital rape? Such as a man raping his wife? Or is that a preposterous notion to your regressive old testament brain?

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That's one take on it. The other take is that when he said 'holy city' he meant heaven, and not Jerusalem and that they weren't living undead zombies but his imagining the souls of the saints had ascended to Heaven.
Well, maybe "holy city" did not mean Jerusalem, but it definitely meant some place here on Earth, with many earthly people there. He said that there was an earthquake and that their graves split in that earthquake, and that they left those graves. Their graves were, obviously, here on Earth. Whether it was Jerusalem or some other city is quite a bit irrelevant, as it is hard to explain how something like that would go unwritten by non-Christian scholars.
The context was probably his own imagining. The problem is people looking at the writing that has been translated over and over for nearly 2000 years and applying contemporary culture (eg zombies) to his writing
Well, yes, he probably imagined them looking normally so that people actually recognized them. Regardless, it is hard to explain how something like that went unwritten by non-Christian sources. Like, seriously, no non-Christian saw a single one of those graves splitting up in the earthquake and a person coming out of it, and decided to write about it? No non-Christian decided to write about reports by many people (presumably mostly non-Christian) of meeting people that they knew were dead on the streets?
Then you have multiple versions of the bible eg King James ordering a new translation, most likely due to politics
It is not due to politics, it is due to modern languages changing over centuries. King James Version is barely comprehensible now. And due to our understanding of ancient languages, in which those texts were written, slightly improving over time.
So when you say ' I studied the bible' you probably have to mention which of the many versions there are that you studied
I believe it is clear from the OP that I studied the Vulgate.

Well your problem seems to be you delve into this subject with a lot of pre conceived ideas. I'm not saying the bible is divine and true to its words but you have clearly gone in with your own opinion and cherry picking whatever suits your end argument. Dumb.

So no. You have not 'studied the bible'. You had a fleeting encounter with a select few passages. Not the same thing

Anyway, I'm done. It's boring doing this circle jerk with someone who is clearly disingenuous

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: The essence of the facts
« on: May 07, 2021, 08:51:07 AM »
Many women prefer to be naked and not to wear a headscarf

Great. Then leave them be. It's their life. Not yours

Dont be such an arsehole judge.



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Quote from: Shifter
You need to get a sense of the entire picture.
I think just reading the New Testament gives you enough of the insight into early Christianity. And that Gospel of Judas gives you way more insight than the Old Testament does.

If you want to study the bible then you should study all of it. Not cherry pick pieces you find palatable
I guarantee you that if more people were aware of even what is written in the New Testament, far fewer people would be Christians. I mean, come on, Matthew 27:53 is literally saying countless zombies were walking around Jerusalem at the time Jesus was resurrected. And, obviously, no non-Christian scholar wrote about it.

That's one take on it. The other take is that when he said 'holy city' he meant heaven, and not Jerusalem and that they weren't living undead zombies but his imagining the souls of the saints had ascended to Heaven.

The context was probably his own imagining. The problem is people looking at the writing that has been translated over and over for nearly 2000 years and applying contemporary culture (eg zombies) to his writing

Then you have multiple versions of the bible eg King James ordering a new translation, most likely due to politics

So when you say ' I studied the bible' you probably have to mention which of the many versions there are that you studied

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Quote from: Shifter
You need to get a sense of the entire picture.
I think just reading the New Testament gives you enough of the insight into early Christianity. And that Gospel of Judas gives you way more insight than the Old Testament does.

If you want to study the bible then you should study all of it. Not cherry pick pieces you find palatable

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: The essence of the facts
« on: May 07, 2021, 08:10:17 AM »
God hides the beauty of a woman from appearing to strangers
A veiled woman who does not show her body to people is more protective than a naked woman
The woman does not know who abides by the command of God  from men In every society

she starts from herself and she does not seek out the intentions of men in society whether they are good or bad

Usurpers do not care about the law of God

Therefore, she protects herself by the obligation to wear respectful clothing and a hijab
she  does not to expose herself to criminal men in society

The hijab includes a woman’s head covering and respectable clothing that does not reveal any parts of her body
God's law is good for society

If you like women to be naked, to be a commodity in advertisements, in newspapers, in nightclubs, and to be raped, then you are pathetic.

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In the Koran, the founding text of Islam, there is no trace of incitement to stoning. This subject is not discussed. Even if the Qur'an repeatedly repeats adultery as an evil act, a crime to be avoided, you will not find stoning cited as punishment for this highly condemned act.

And yet, some countries that follow Islam have stoning as a punishment regardless because Islam.

Women deserve the freedom to dress in a way that makes them feel good. If that's a hijab or mini skirt and crop top then so be it.

Who are you to judge them and whip them in submission to a way that makes YOU feel comfortable? Keep your dick in your pants and their wont be a problem.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: The essence of the facts
« on: May 07, 2021, 07:44:09 AM »
Women in Islam are like a jewel,
God has commanded to preserve and protect them

Women are such jewels in Islam that when you dish out your stoning to death punishment, you bury them up to their neck where you only bury the men up to their waist giving them some hope of escape

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Quote from: Shifter
That is why studying the bible 'on your own' usually wouldn't work.
Well, many people say basically "Forget about what the Bible says, you need to obey what my interpretation of the Bible says. Which usually involves giving me a lot of money.". When you put it that way, it sounds silly, but that is what modern denominations of Christianity are mostly about.
Quote from: Shifter
you'd have to read and study the Torah as well
Why Torah? Maybe the prophets would be useful, but Torah?
Quote from: Shifter
And you might want to study under the tutelage of someone who knows how to interpret the original text as it was written as well as understanding the meaning of the words as it was meant when it was written.
And that would not be true if the Bible was divinely inspired, as most theologians claim it is. God would not let his work be mistranslated.

How many versions of the modern day bible are there? lol. take your pick. Each verse is just that little bit different in each one.

The Bible is a collection of stories written by man. Divinely inspired? Well maybe, but that doesn't mean that God wrote the original words, just that 'God' was the inspiration for men to write those words

You learn the Torah so you learn about the people and other faiths connected to the Abrahamic God. Whether its the Bible or the Torah, its still connected to the same people. You need to get a sense of the entire picture. Christianity and the 'Bible' is just a subset that is skewed to their favoured politics.


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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: The essence of the facts
« on: May 07, 2021, 06:45:47 AM »
In Saudi Arabia, everyone must be Islam. So when I cam across a university student from Saudi Arabia, it's safe to assume he was Muslim


So despite all the 'you cant drink or have sex before marriage' laws they have - guess what he was keen on doing when he was here...

Party, get drunk and have sex with many women.

In fact, he is not isolated. Muslim young men are notorious for their love of alcohol and women here.

We even had Muslim Lebanese gang rapists - but guess who the Muslims blamed for the rapes? The women victims. Why? Because they dared to look pretty.

In fact, one high ranking Muslim dickhead (like an Imam) said 'If she wears anything that beautifies her appearance - she is eligible for rape' - What a loser. To hell with Islam if that's their world view

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: The essence of the facts
« on: May 07, 2021, 06:35:29 AM »
You do not understand well
It is not about leaving Islam
If you leave Islam. This is between you and God
But in the event of war, one of the Muslims left Islam and joined the enemy army and allowed the secrets of his country to be published to the enemy, and Muslims were killed because of it. This person is considered a traitor to his country.

It is about leaving Islam. The law states that apostates must be killed.

War has nothing to do with it.

If a Saudi Arabian man (in Saudi Arabia) declared he no longer wishes to subscribe to Islam and wishes to live as an atheist - he will be put to death. Nothing to do with war. There is no war there

But hey, you keep going on with your 'apostates must be put to death' shit in your head. It only reveals what a horrible, intolerant, nasty man you are.


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Are you a theologian? If not, you just read the bible. Not studied it. Studying it requires a hell of a lot of knowledge about the entire time and culture.
And how do you come to that knowledge? By studying the Bible and what other people wrote about the Bible, right?
Theologians are not the only ones who have that knowledge, and many theologians do not actually have that knowledge.

It is because you can interpret the same passage so many times that reading the bible is not going to teach you much. It will give you a superficial knowledge. I can read the bible and have a different take-away than you reading the bible for example

That is why studying the bible 'on your own' usually wouldn't work. There is a lot more to study and I'd argue that to get a better understanding on the Christian bible, you'd have to read and study the Torah as well. And you might want to study under the tutelage of someone who knows how to interpret the original text as it was written as well as understanding the meaning of the words as it was meant when it was written. Not as they mean now.

But good luck in your studies if that is what you wish to devote yourself to. Better this than pondering whether the Tienanmen Square massacre actually happened or if guns even exist

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: The essence of the facts
« on: May 07, 2021, 05:04:29 AM »
Whoever leaves Islam must be killed.

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Ingenuity made its first test flight on April 19, lifting 30 seconds to three meters. NASA declared the test, which marked the first flight of a robotic powered vehicle on another planet, a success. Ingenuity has been reported to conduct a number of high altitude test flights over the coming weeks.
But nobody but NASA has witnessed the flights.

How many witnesses are needed for something to be true?

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