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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Floating water behind the curve?
« on: August 13, 2019, 09:33:31 AM »
There are plenty of videos of people seeing further than Aristotle's ancient sinking ship proof should allow. Inconsistent proofs invalidate the matter. Find real evidence rather than spamming the same old same old.
there really aren't.  Once you do the actual calculations and look at the actual distances and heights, I have never seen a single video where something could be seen past the curve without a perfectly legitimate heliocentric explanation.

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Technology, Science & Alt Science / Re: I won Heiwa's 1,000,000 challenge
« on: September 01, 2018, 06:39:20 AM »
But so much of Heiwa's site has simply deceptive ridicule like that, including his manned space flight section.
I have just update http://heiwaco.com/news8.htm
It seems the drug smugglers fucked it up.
US supporting the drug merchants as usual. It could only end in a disaster.
Irrelevant!
No. The thread/topic is about my space travel challenge. Show how to go to the Moon and Mars, calculate the fuel required and I pay 1M. Nobody can do it.
Go and ask NASA! They've done it before.
If you cannot understand their rocket science, astronomy, orbital mechanics and dynamics I suggest you go back to school.

You can't even understand how to find the fuel needed to transfer from a circular low earth orbit to the moon.
Numerous spacecraft have done that, including Russian, American, Japanese, Chinese and Indian.

Not only that but American, Russian,  ESA and Indian spacecraft have been place in Mars orbit and you can't get out of LEO!
Hm, you really should study http://heiwaco.com/moontravel.htm .

Lifting off from Earth into EPO is no problem for a small spacecraft or satellite.The Challenge is to have humans aboard and to explain why.

Only twerps believe that humans can fly in space but no twerp can explain how it is done.
Anders, speaking of your challenge, where is the proof you have the money?

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YES - International, or Italian (?), law changed due to the Costa Concordia incident. Before the ship owner, his staff and national authorities ashore were responsible to ensure that the ship was seaworthy, properly manned and according to the rules. From now, or 2015, on the Master aboard is responsible for everything and, if anything is not right, he/she is jailed. It makes life easy for plenty twerps like you and Wikipedia, the latter just up-dating its nonsense June 2018.
It's hard to take you seriously as an expert on safety at sea, or anything else, when you say such stupid things.
Well, you are a twerp and I don't take you seriously. Of course, any Master of a ship is not responsible of everything on the ship. He/she must rely on others. It is team work.
Yes, the captain is responsible for everything on the ship.  He delegates various duties to his officers and crew, but it's the captain's job to make sure that everyone else on the ship does their job.
Well, how does a ship owner find such a fantastic person that is responsible for everything?
You're the expert, you tell me.  What do you think that the ship's captain should be responsible for and where would you find someone who could handle those responsibilities?


Thanks for asking. A ship captain has many duties (responsibilities)  to fulfill and #1 is to carry out the instructions given by the ship owner ashore. It is the ship owner that makes the Ship Safety Management System used aboard, which defines in a manual the duties of each crew member. It is quite clear that the captain is not responsible for everything. It is the ship's chief engineer that is responsible for the machinery, and I can assure you most captains haven't a clue what is going down in the engine room. Some duties cannot even be delegated to crew members, e.g. the structural integrity of the ship. For that the ship owner employs external experts, e.g. like me.
Anyway, it is the ship owner that collects all money earned. Many ship captains just regard themselves as bus drivers steering the ship from A to B and back to A or C with little time for anything else as all other duties are carried out by other crew members and people ashore. You are a twerp, markjo, so thanks for asking. I hope you have learnt something.
Experts like you?  But you have said that you are basically a plumber for a ship. All you know how to do is deal with human waste.
Why are you such a liar and failure?

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YES - International, or Italian (?), law changed due to the Costa Concordia incident. Before the ship owner, his staff and national authorities ashore were responsible to ensure that the ship was seaworthy, properly manned and according to the rules. From now, or 2015, on the Master aboard is responsible for everything and, if anything is not right, he/she is jailed. It makes life easy for plenty twerps like you and Wikipedia, the latter just up-dating its nonsense June 2018.
It's hard to take you seriously as an expert on safety at sea, or anything else, when you say such stupid things.
Well, you are a twerp and I don't take you seriously. Of course, any Master of a ship is not responsible of everything on the ship. He/she must rely on others. It is team work. Prove me wrong and collect 1M - http://heiwaco.com/chall.htm
If you want to be taken seriously, prove you have the money.
Until then you are a pathetic joke and complete failure.

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Flat Earth General / Re: Dangers of the Moon: Radio Edition
« on: June 29, 2018, 03:34:31 PM »
Silly stuff like penguins were created during the Cold War as a food stuff?
It's almost as though some, such as what's-'er-name and you-know-who are trying to make the idea of a flat earth seem ridiculous.
Whether or not they are trying, they are succeeding admirably!
I disagree. We had no notice, or voice when I took on the banner of the Flat Earth. Today, we are known plane wide again.

https://idobi.com/podcast/053-john-eric-davis-flat-earth-society/

Apparently Samantha Scarlet is far more reasonable a person than some of our forum members, as she was not surprised at all to find out about the dangers of the moon.

What's unreasonable about being surprised by something?
Any reasonable man would not be surprised by the moon being dangerous, as any reasonable man already knows of its dangers.

https://idobi.com/podcast/053-john-eric-davis-flat-earth-society/

Apparently Samantha Scarlet is far more reasonable a person than some of our forum members, as she was not surprised at all to find out about the dangers of the moon.

She seems open minded.
She does seem to be open minded, yet reasonable. I've met plenty of folks that go a bit too far on the open minded and end up believing in the silliest things, and that is not her. I've been on her show (or rather, on her shows) a few times. She's been one of my favorite hosts for that reason amongst others. I'm just glad she helped me spread the word about the dangers of the moon.
Silly stuff like penguins were created during the Cold War as a food stuff?
There couldn't be a more unlikely creature than the Penguin, aside from the dinofauxs that supposedly created the species.
Unfortunately you have nothing to back it up and there certainly is evidence they were around before the Cold War. This one is simply stupid on the face of it.

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And of course I am an expert of safety at sea, dynamic structural analysis, astro and nuclear physics.
Didn't you say that only twerps bother with nuclear physics?  I suppose that makes you a twerp.
No, I said only twerps go around flashing their money that they haven't got.
That actually makes sense. You haven't got the money so naturally you don't go around flashing.
Thanks for admitting you haven't got the money and that your challenge is a fake and you are a fraud.
We all knew that already but thanks for admitting it.
Hm, the only thing I have admitted is that my kitchen is IKEA style. But topic is not my kitchen but my 1M Challenge that nobody has won. Only twerps have tried and failed for obvious reasons.
The obvious reasons being you haven't got the money and you are not qualified to judge the challenges.
Which makes them fake and you a fraud and a failure.
Well, fact is that my Challenges are real and that I am around to judge them. This thread proves it! Just describe (1) how to ignite an atomic bomb or (2) how to travel to the Moon and planet Mars and back or (3) how to knock off a bow visor at sea or (4) how a top C of a structure can crush bottom A into dust by gravity or (5) how fusion on Earth doesn't melt the plant, and we can discuss the money aspects.
People who say that they can ignite atomic bombs, that they can fly in space, that they can knock off bow visors, that structures collapse from top by gravity and that fusion produces electricity are just poor, lying actors and contemptible twerps.
This thread proves they are fake and you are a failure.
You have proven you have the money. 
You have shown many times that you are not smart enough to understand the subjects of your challenges.
So, they are fake and you are a fraud, liar and failure.

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And of course I am an expert of safety at sea, dynamic structural analysis, astro and nuclear physics.
Didn't you say that only twerps bother with nuclear physics?  I suppose that makes you a twerp.
No, I said only twerps go around flashing their money that they haven't got.
That actually makes sense. You haven't got the money so naturally you don't go around flashing.
Thanks for admitting you haven't got the money and that your challenge is a fake and you are a fraud.
We all knew that already but thanks for admitting it.
Hm, the only thing I have admitted is that my kitchen is IKEA style. But topic is not my kitchen but my 1M Challenge that nobody has won. Only twerps have tried and failed for obvious reasons.
The obvious reasons being you haven't got the money and you are not qualified to judge the challenges.
Which makes them fake and you a fraud and a failure.

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And of course I am an expert of safety at sea, dynamic structural analysis, astro and nuclear physics.
Didn't you say that only twerps bother with nuclear physics?  I suppose that makes you a twerp.
No, I said only twerps go around flashing their money that they haven't got.
That actually makes sense. You haven't got the money so naturally you don't go around flashing.
Thanks for admitting you haven't got the money and that your challenge is a fake and you are a fraud.
We all knew that already but thanks for admitting it.

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Flat Earth General / Re: Dangers of the Moon: Radio Edition
« on: June 27, 2018, 11:09:33 AM »
https://idobi.com/podcast/053-john-eric-davis-flat-earth-society/

Apparently Samantha Scarlet is far more reasonable a person than some of our forum members, as she was not surprised at all to find out about the dangers of the moon.

What's unreasonable about being surprised by something?
Any reasonable man would not be surprised by the moon being dangerous, as any reasonable man already knows of its dangers.

https://idobi.com/podcast/053-john-eric-davis-flat-earth-society/

Apparently Samantha Scarlet is far more reasonable a person than some of our forum members, as she was not surprised at all to find out about the dangers of the moon.

She seems open minded.
She does seem to be open minded, yet reasonable. I've met plenty of folks that go a bit too far on the open minded and end up believing in the silliest things, and that is not her. I've been on her show (or rather, on her shows) a few times. She's been one of my favorite hosts for that reason amongst others. I'm just glad she helped me spread the word about the dangers of the moon.
Silly stuff like penguins were created during the Cold War as a food stuff?

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The professors told me how fantastic there work was building nuclear weapons and rockets flying in space for Swedish state interests and they confirmed that they were twerps.

Haha nice one.

There is no doubt Heiwa is smarter and more educated than a lot of you on this thread. I'm not sure why you guys continue to attempt to get into scientific debates with him. You will lose every time because only twerps do that.
Thanks! But my Challenges - http://heiwaco.com/chall.htm are still open for anyone to win, 1M.
Of course they are still open, they're fake. You've admitted that. You don't have the money and you are qualified to judge the information in any of those fields.
You just keep failing.
Only twerps believe my Challenges are fake and that I don't have any money or can judge the information involved. Twerps are just too stupid to fail ... anything. Like the twerp Donald 'Twitter' Trump signing all sorts of executive orders with a big pen to impress the media. Donald just kissed the ass of emperor Kim III of Korea (north) to save the WORLD. But emperor Kim III is ... nude. No clothes. No nukes. It was disgusting with media looking on and ... 99.99% of the world didn't react.
You've never publicly shown you have the money so, they are fake. You have admitted you are not an expert in those fields, so they are fake.
You're a liar, a fraud and a failure.

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The professors told me how fantastic there work was building nuclear weapons and rockets flying in space for Swedish state interests and they confirmed that they were twerps.

Haha nice one.

There is no doubt Heiwa is smarter and more educated than a lot of you on this thread. I'm not sure why you guys continue to attempt to get into scientific debates with him. You will lose every time because only twerps do that.
Thanks! But my Challenges - http://heiwaco.com/chall.htm are still open for anyone to win, 1M.
Of course they are still open, they're fake. You've admitted that. You don't have the money and you are not qualified to judge the information in any of those fields.
You just keep failing.

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Much of that information for the manned moon missions is already in the Apollo mission reports.  If you reject the NASA reports, then why would you accept the same information from anyone else?
No manned missions to the Moon have ever been done, and all reports about it are fake.
And nobody has been able to show how to fly to the Moon in spite of my 1M award.
I thought that a twerp like you would finally agree the 1969 Apollo trip was just a hoax.
Why do you go on to post garbage?
But we've already proven your challenges are fake. Why do you keep lying?  Why do you keep talking about these fake challenges?  You can't prove you have the money so they are fake.

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This is a great thread.  It should probably be stickied.
Yes I agree this thread about my Challenge is great. But what do you mean it should be stickied?
and Heiwa the narcissist proves he doesn't understand sarcasm.
Hm, my understanding of sarcasm is the use of stupid, bitter, cold, full of envy, etc, remarks intended to wound my feelings.
Of course plenty twerps here use such stupid, bitter, cold, full of envy, etc., remarks all the time, but I just smile at them twerps. I try to focus on the topic - Nobody won Heiwa's 1,000,000 challenge.
But you have admitted multiple times that your challenge is fake. Why would anyone bother with a fraud and failure like you?
Sorry. Only a twerp like you thinks so. My challenges are very real at http://heiwaco.com/chall.htm . And I am honest and successful in business since at least 1965.
Until you publicly prove you have the money you are a fraud. Everyone knows this. You are a proven liar so we know you aren't honest. Why would anyone bother with fake challenges or want to deal with a fraud like you?
Only twerps argue like that. I think you do it because you are a loser. Or you don't know how to think.
Obviously you are wrong.  Only a fraud claims his challenge is real and then doesn't show he has the money.  You are a proven liar.  You have failed to provide any evidence to support any of your bullshit.
There is nothing in space for humans to see that cannot be seen from Earth. Only complete fools, so called twerps, promote human space travel. But they cannot win my Challenge! Try to think.
Dude, seriously just give it up. Literally everything you post makes you look stupid. You are a proven liar and a fraud. You can't prove you have the money so your challenges are fake. You are a complete failure. Just stop. You are embarrassing yourself.

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This is a great thread.  It should probably be stickied.
Yes I agree this thread about my Challenge is great. But what do you mean it should be stickied?
and Heiwa the narcissist proves he doesn't understand sarcasm.
Hm, my understanding of sarcasm is the use of stupid, bitter, cold, full of envy, etc, remarks intended to wound my feelings.
Of course plenty twerps here use such stupid, bitter, cold, full of envy, etc., remarks all the time, but I just smile at them twerps. I try to focus on the topic - Nobody won Heiwa's 1,000,000 challenge.
But you have admitted multiple times that your challenge is fake. Why would anyone bother with a fraud and failure like you?
Sorry. Only a twerp like you thinks so. My challenges are very real at http://heiwaco.com/chall.htm . And I am honest and successful in business since at least 1965.
Until you publicly prove you have the money you are a fraud. Everyone knows this. You are a proven liar so we know you aren't honest. Why would anyone bother with fake challenges or want to deal with a fraud like you?
Only twerps argue like that. I think you do it because you are a loser. Or you don't know how to think.
Obviously you are wrong.  Only a fraud claims his challenge is real and then doesn't show he has the money.  You are a proven liar.  You have failed to provide any evidence to support any of your bullshit.

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This is a great thread.  It should probably be stickied.
Yes I agree this thread about my Challenge is great. But what do you mean it should be stickied?
and Heiwa the narcissist proves he doesn't understand sarcasm.
Hm, my understanding of sarcasm is the use of stupid, bitter, cold, full of envy, etc, remarks intended to wound my feelings.
Of course plenty twerps here use such stupid, bitter, cold, full of envy, etc., remarks all the time, but I just smile at them twerps. I try to focus on the topic - Nobody won Heiwa's 1,000,000 challenge.
But you have admitted multiple times that your challenge is fake. Why would anyone bother with a fraud and failure like you?
Sorry. Only a twerp like you thinks so. My challenges are very real at http://heiwaco.com/chall.htm . And I am honest and successful in business since at least 1965.
Until you publicly prove you have the money you are a fraud. Everyone knows this. You are a proven liar so we know you aren't honest. Why would anyone bother with fake challenges or want to deal with a fraud like you?

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This is a great thread.  It should probably be stickied.
Yes I agree this thread about my Challenge is great. But what do you mean it should be stickied?
and Heiwa the narcissist proves he doesn't understand sarcasm.
Hm, my understanding of sarcasm is the use of stupid, bitter, cold, full of envy, etc, remarks intended to wound my feelings.
Of course plenty twerps here use such stupid, bitter, cold, full of envy, etc., remarks all the time, but I just smile at them twerps. I try to focus on the topic - Nobody won Heiwa's 1,000,000 challenge.
But you have admitted multiple times that your challenge is fake. Why would anyone bother with a fraud and failure like you?

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Yes, that's the official M/S Estonia 1994 story. After repeated wave impacts that nobody heard or felt, the locking devices failed and the bow visor fell off, pulling out an inner ramp locking devices of which also failed.
Who says that nobody heard or felt the wave impacts?  ???

The visor and the ramp was 2.5 m above waterline, but as the ship pitched down the opening came below water and flooded the superstructure and ... the ship sank. The crew just sat watching it.
Who said that the crew just sat around watching it?  ???

Anders, do you understand what a straw man fallacy is?  It's when you argue against a story that you made up instead of the actual story presented.  You seem to do that an awful lot.

Well, I know people that were aboard and survived the incident and they have told me a different story. And I knew the person that were supposed to investigate the incident and later suddenly died February 1997 and I know how he invented the whole thing. And I have also met the fat lady that finally signed the false investigation report 1997 ... and she didn't like me.
Sorry, I haven't made up any story. I just tell the truth I was part of 1994/7 and later. http://heiwaco.com/news.htm . I do it for people I know that lost relatives and friends on the ship. You are a twerp, markjo.
And yet you claim all the people that lost loved ones on 911 are liars. You don't care about people. You are just a liar and a fraud.
You are a twerp. Of course I care about people. That's why I improve safety at sea.
Re 911 and safety of skyscrapers, it is a fact that two skyscrapers cannot suddenly globally collapse free fall from top down by gravity and become dust as seen live on TV.
My understanding is that the two NY skyscrapers were empty and destroyed by controlled demolition ... and that nobody died. Only twerps believe criminals like president GWB and his assistance Condoleezza Rice suggesting otherwise.
Study about faking reality!
No that's just some bullshit you made up to sound important. You have nothing to back it up.  You are a liar and a fraud and you fail to provide any evidence to support your lies. I know people who lost loved ones there. You are a failure as a human being.

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Yes, that's the official M/S Estonia 1994 story. After repeated wave impacts that nobody heard or felt, the locking devices failed and the bow visor fell off, pulling out an inner ramp locking devices of which also failed.
Who says that nobody heard or felt the wave impacts?  ???

The visor and the ramp was 2.5 m above waterline, but as the ship pitched down the opening came below water and flooded the superstructure and ... the ship sank. The crew just sat watching it.
Who said that the crew just sat around watching it?  ???

Anders, do you understand what a straw man fallacy is?  It's when you argue against a story that you made up instead of the actual story presented.  You seem to do that an awful lot.

Well, I know people that were aboard and survived the incident and they have told me a different story. And I knew the person that were supposed to investigate the incident and later suddenly died February 1997 and I know how he invented the whole thing. And I have also met the fat lady that finally signed the false investigation report 1997 ... and she didn't like me.
Sorry, I haven't made up any story. I just tell the truth I was part of 1994/7 and later. http://heiwaco.com/news.htm . I do it for people I know that lost relatives and friends on the ship. You are a twerp, markjo.
And yet you claim all the people that lost loved ones on 911 are liars. You don't care about people. You are just a liar and a fraud.

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But Moose is . . . too stupid to go on a plane.

I'm actually a pretty smart passenger. I always sit in the back row on the port side.
The reason is that in the event of a "non-runway landing" the tail typically breaks free
from the of the rest of the debris field and the tail feathers bring the section to a halt
mostly intact. Survivors are most often found in the tail section.

You can read all about it on my website . . . http://www.misterfixit.com/lastpage.html
Hm, you are a twerp passenger! You always take flights that will do non-runway landings, etc. !!!!???? I doubt you are ever aboard such flights. So maybe you are not a twerp? Just an agent of influence.
Sorry, my invitation to you at my office for coffee is cancelled.

I'm just throwing this out here.  What if you picked up Bullwinkle on a boat?  You're a boat captain right?
No, I am an engineer - http://heiwaco.com/cv.htm . Only twerps  go (or are sent) to sea to fish and chip rusty decks to earn a living, not forgetting the twerps paying a fortune to cruise around on not seaworthy vessels. Better stay ashore.
No you're a liar, failure and fraud.

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But Moose is . . . too stupid to go on a plane.

I'm actually a pretty smart passenger. I always sit in the back row on the port side.
The reason is that in the event of a "non-runway landing" the tail typically breaks free
from the of the rest of the debris field and the tail feathers bring the section to a halt
mostly intact. Survivors are most often found in the tail section.

You can read all about it on my website . . . http://www.misterfixit.com/lastpage.html
Hm, you are a twerp passenger! You always take flights that will do non-runway landings, etc. !!!!???? I doubt you are ever aboard such flights. So maybe you are not a twerp? Just an agent of influence.
Sorry, my invitation to you at my office for coffee is cancelled.

I'm just throwing this out here.  What if you picked up Bullwinkle on a boat?  You're a boat captain right?
Nah, just a deck hand.

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Yes, evidently I call anyone who claims to have been sent up in space and done a re-entry a paid actor and a liar.
Reason is that doing such a trip and re-entry are physically impossible, which I show at my website.
Thanks for admitting that you dismiss any evidence that proves you wrong thereby making your "challenge" a complete farce.
Hm, a lying actor saying she/he has made a trip in space is no evidence of anything and doesn't make my Challenges a farce. Only a twerp would suggest it.
Or, maybe, just maybe, you're the one who is wrong about manned space travel and you're just dismissing the astronauts as lying actors because you don't like to be proven wrong.
I doubt it. Just listen to the asstrotwerps I link to at my website. They are all clowns, actors/actresses and liars. Paid for by tax payers.
If only you had some evidence to support that. You don't because you are a liar, a failure and a fraud. You could so easily prove me wrong, if you weren't such a failure.
Hm, I link to them at my website and you must verify yourself.
You're a liar. There is no evidence there. It's just you saying it's impossible. If you had any you would post it here. There is no proof you have the money. You are a failure.

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Yes, evidently I call anyone who claims to have been sent up in space and done a re-entry a paid actor and a liar.
Reason is that doing such a trip and re-entry are physically impossible, which I show at my website.
Thanks for admitting that you dismiss any evidence that proves you wrong thereby making your "challenge" a complete farce.
Hm, a lying actor saying she/he has made a trip in space is no evidence of anything and doesn't make my Challenges a farce. Only a twerp would suggest it.
Or, maybe, just maybe, you're the one who is wrong about manned space travel and you're just dismissing the astronauts as lying actors because you don't like to be proven wrong.
I doubt it. Just listen to the asstrotwerps I link to at my website. They are all clowns, actors/actresses and liars. Paid for by tax payers.
If only you had some evidence to support that. You don't because you are a liar, a failure and a fraud. You could so easily prove me wrong, if you weren't such a failure.

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You are a loser. Like NASA & Co. They cannot explain how to do a manned space trip. And they are supposed to be rocket scientists. It is ridiculous.
Of course NASA can explain how to do a space trip.  Your inability understand and/or refusal to accept that explanation is a different story.
Here is reply #6017 right on topic. Some twerp suggests that NASA can easily win my Challenge but that I cannot understand the NASA explanation.
Fact remains NASA has never explained how to fly to the Moon (and piss there). The 1969 show (http://heiwaco.com/moontravel1.htm ) was really piss poor.
So don't suggest the topic has changed.
You're a liar. They have explained and you have been given links to those explainations. Why do you lie like this?  Are you sick or just stupid?  Or both?
You continue to fail to provide any evidence for your bullshit. You fail to prove you have the money for your fake challenge.
It seems that lying and failing is all you can do.
Just copy the links about going to the Moon winning my Challenge, and we can discuss. But why not use that info and collect 1M yourself? You sound like twerp.
You've been given the links. You ignore them. As for your challenge you have admitted it is fake and you are a fraud. Show us the money or shut up about your fake challenges.
No links have been given. And all details of the Challenges are available at http://heiwaco.com/chall.htm .
You're a liar. Lots of links have been given, you just refuse to look at them.
So you post proof you have the money on your website?  If not, it's fake and you are a fraud.
No, I am not a liar. All links sent to me, I look at. It gives me plenty input to improve my website pages.  Why do you continue post shit? Are you paid for it?
So you lied when you said you were never sent links?  You just can't help it can you?

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: The round earth model is so damn accurate.
« on: June 11, 2018, 11:51:10 AM »
You are right that we have time zones * But once the region gets so large that time-zones need to be considered it starts to fail and this is why the Globe earth was first suggested. * but then the question becomes - if the Bible  refers to Enoch and even to Enoch's book itself (there are 3 translations of this book in which it is almost the same about celestial mechanics) it is said about the same thing - it turns out that they all deceive us, and in fact there is no God then, and all the religions of the world are a fictional fairy tale ... Or are we in this case not quite understanding what is really going on? For example, no one has ever been able to explain why the stars are visible through the moon and how the phases of the moon change in this case, neither those who believe in the ball nor those who believe in flat land can not do this, this is beyond our understanding. At the same time, everywhere there is a reference to the cornerstone of our planet, I meant this cornerstone, saying that the form can be a little different. For the movement of the sun, moon and stars, I have my own idea, in which many phrases from all Scriptures are taken into account and more or less falls into the system that we see in reality.
I disagree with your premise that just because something in bible, written by men thousands of years ago isn't scientifically accurate then everything is a lie.
And to your other points, you can't see stars through the moon and we know exactly how the phases work.

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You are a loser. Like NASA & Co. They cannot explain how to do a manned space trip. And they are supposed to be rocket scientists. It is ridiculous.
Of course NASA can explain how to do a space trip.  Your inability understand and/or refusal to accept that explanation is a different story.
Here is reply #6017 right on topic. Some twerp suggests that NASA can easily win my Challenge but that I cannot understand the NASA explanation.
Fact remains NASA has never explained how to fly to the Moon (and piss there). The 1969 show (http://heiwaco.com/moontravel1.htm ) was really piss poor.
So don't suggest the topic has changed.
You're a liar. They have explained and you have been given links to those explainations. Why do you lie like this?  Are you sick or just stupid?  Or both?
You continue to fail to provide any evidence for your bullshit. You fail to prove you have the money for your fake challenge.
It seems that lying and failing is all you can do.
Just copy the links about going to the Moon winning my Challenge, and we can discuss. But why not use that info and collect 1M yourself? You sound like twerp.
You've been given the links. You ignore them. As for your challenge you have admitted it is fake and you are a fraud. Show us the money or shut up about your fake challenges.
No links have been given. And all details of the Challenges are available at http://heiwaco.com/chall.htm .
You're a liar. Lots of links have been given, you just refuse to look at them.
So you post proof you have the money on your website?  If not, it's fake and you are a fraud.

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You are a loser. Like NASA & Co. They cannot explain how to do a manned space trip. And they are supposed to be rocket scientists. It is ridiculous.
Of course NASA can explain how to do a space trip.  Your inability understand and/or refusal to accept that explanation is a different story.
Here is reply #6017 right on topic. Some twerp suggests that NASA can easily win my Challenge but that I cannot understand the NASA explanation.
Fact remains NASA has never explained how to fly to the Moon (and piss there). The 1969 show (http://heiwaco.com/moontravel1.htm ) was really piss poor.
So don't suggest the topic has changed.
You're a liar. They have explained and you have been given links to those explainations. Why do you lie like this?  Are you sick or just stupid?  Or both?
You continue to fail to provide any evidence for your bullshit. You fail to prove you have the money for your fake challenge.
It seems that lying and failing is all you can do.
Just copy the links about going to the Moon winning my Challenge, and we can discuss. But why not use that info and collect 1M yourself? You sound like twerp.
You've been given the links. You ignore them. As for your challenge you have admitted it is fake and you are a fraud. Show us the money or shut up about your fake challenges.

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You are a loser. Like NASA & Co. They cannot explain how to do a manned space trip. And they are supposed to be rocket scientists. It is ridiculous.
Of course NASA can explain how to do a space trip.  Your inability understand and/or refusal to accept that explanation is a different story.
Here is reply #6017 right on topic. Some twerp suggests that NASA can easily win my Challenge but that I cannot understand the NASA explanation.
Fact remains NASA has never explained how to fly to the Moon (and piss there). The 1969 show (http://heiwaco.com/moontravel1.htm ) was really piss poor.
So don't suggest the topic has changed.
You're a liar. They have explained and you have been given links to those explainations. Why do you lie like this?  Are you sick or just stupid?  Or both?
You continue to fail to provide any evidence for your bullshit. You fail to prove you have the money for your fake challenge.
It seems that lying and failing is all you can do.

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Flat Earth General / Re: just a question
« on: June 08, 2018, 01:37:40 PM »
The other planets are just specks of light in the night time sky.
Do you mean "just specks of light in the night time sky" like these?

Photographer: cyberplocos@yahoo.com
Location of photo: Ribeirao Preto, Brazil
Date/Time of photo: June 21, 2016
Link: Sky and Telescope, Mars season 2016
     
Jupiter with GRS, Photographer: astrokn
Location of photo: Osaka, Japan
Date/Time of photo: 2018/04/22 01h16.1m (JST)
Link: Sky and Telescope, Jupiter with GRS
     
Photographer: midnight8
Location of photo: My Driveway Orange, Texas
Date/Time of photo: 07/07/2017
Link: Sky and Telescope, Saturn C9.25 telescope,

These are all photos from amateur astronomers who have no particular interest in whether the earth is flat.
They believe the earth is a Globe simply because that is the only shape that fits what they can see with they own eyes - enhanced by their own telescopes.

Quote from: hoppy
They used to be called wondering stars. It is likely that planets galaxies are a hoax.
Really? If "galaxies are a hoax", what is this?:

Photographer: Craig & Tammy Temple
Location of photo: Portland, TN, USA
Date/Time of photo: August 29 & 30, 2016 and September 1, 2016
Link: Sky and Telescope, M31 Andromeda Galaxy.

Quote from: hoppy
When you go outside on a still night everything seems at peace. You sense no motion anywhere except the gentle movement of the heavens. Do you believe that you are spinning at 1000 mph, and the earth is flying at 60,000 mph, and on top of that everything else is moving at faster speeds?
Sure, but 1000 mph or so at the equator is only 0.0007 rpm - big deal. And the nearest object in the night sky is the moon, about 239,000 miles away.
So the moon only appears to move at about half the angular speed of the hour hand of an analogue clock.
And when you claim that "the earth is flying at over 60,000 mph" that is relative to the sun, about 93,000,000 miles away.
But, in my neck-of-the-woods, I cannot see the sun "outside on a still night".
During a clear day, when I can see the sun, it also appears to move at about the half the angular speed of a clock.

So, I fail to see the problem - it's all a matter of perspective, that thing that you flat-earthers go on and on about.

Quote from: hoppy
Try to trust yourself and your experience rather than fantastic stories.
Sure trust your eyes and
  • believe that railway tracks get closer as they disappear into the distance,
  • that distant hills move past the car much slower than the nearby trees and
  • see that cars, ships and even people get smaller as they move away.
Again it's all a matter of perspective.
Why do stars appear like this if they are huge burning balls of nuclear fusion and burning gas. Why isn't this one solid as it should be, like the sun.



The Sun is also a huge burning ball of nuclear fusion and burning gas! It isn't solid.
I have never seen through the sun, have you?
What makes you think you're seeing through that one?

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: The round earth model is so damn accurate.
« on: June 08, 2018, 11:14:00 AM »
I am merely relating an entertaining anecdote. I am not trying to convince anyone of its veracity.
Fair enough. But back to the point. Navigators and educated people knew the world was round. Columbus just thought it was smaller than it is.

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