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Flat Earth Debate / Re: 100% PROOF GRAVITY ISN'T REALITY
« on: March 05, 2018, 09:57:34 AM »
A: look at the moon

B: Grab a telescope look at other moons

C: Launch a cube sat that you can track 5-20 000 usd

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So that Rolex that I have is a peace of shit...

Actually they were pretty shitty in the seventies, but still the best tool watches around.
Anyway mechanical watches sure "shittier" even then earth rotation, mines even in COSC standards deviate +- 5 secs daily, some older ones can go off 20-50 sec.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Conservation of angular Momentum
« on: July 27, 2017, 04:26:58 AM »
I will admit that I was wrong about my calculations of the earth rotation do to leap second.

We are all agreeing that the earth is slowing down.

We have been told that the universe was created by a very fast dot that was spinning so fast and the gravitational forces were so strong that it exploded.

Conservation of angular momentum dictates that the parts that exploded of must keep the spin rate.

From my calculations, the earth 10 billion years ago was only spinning at the rate of 5 times today's spin.

So we can have two possibilities

1)   The big bang dot was not spinning very fast as they told us.
2)   A braking system was applied to the earth to stop spinning.

Either way, the Big Bang has a problem

Was the dot spinning very fast as we been told or was there a braking mechanism that made the earth stop?

Please explain and show physics to back up your claims.

Big bang is not eqaul to the formation of the earth. Please make specific claims, with your specific evidence :

If the earth is not do to the Big Bang, then where did it come from and please provide citation...

No problem, as I said do some research on official theories and refine your claim.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Lunar Lander Altimeter???
« on: July 27, 2017, 04:25:35 AM »
5 batteries for the decent at 29 volts and 400 amp - hr (each)
That gives a total power of 29 V * 400 A hr * 3600 (s/hr) * 5=208.8 MJ

power consumption is 210 Watts for radar
That is a maximum, and how long was it on for?

Rather than try to find it I will just find the max time (assuming it was just powering the radar):
208.8 MJ / 210 W = 994286 s=11.5 days.

Did the landing take more than 11.5 days?
No. Then the radar will be fine.

Don't worry, I did go looking. I'm too curious.
According to this:
https://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/apollo/missions/apollo11.html
It undocked at 100 hr 12 minutes. The started exploring the moon at 109 hours 42 minutes, which was roughly 4 hours after landing. So that is no more than 6 hours it had to be on (and no reason for it to be on for a lot of the start)
So assuming maximum power for 6 hours, that gives us 210 W * 6 hours * 3600 s/hr=4.536 MJ, leaving only 204.264 MJ for the rest.

Great!, then it's over

So you indeed of capable of some improvement ? :D good

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Let me clarify my calculations.

For a circle to make 1 revolution, it needs to go threw 360 degrees or 2pi or 6.283 rad

A year has 365.25 Days, so a Day has 6.283 rad
In 1 year we have 365.25 days times 6.283 rad = 2294.933 rad

1 day has 86400 sec and a year has 31,557,600 sec

From 1972 till 2016 we have 44 years

In 44 years we have  1,388,534,427 sec (including the 27 leap second) and we have traveled by 100,977.071 rad

The angular velocity originally is 6.283 rad  / 86400 sec = 7.272205216643E-05   rad/sec

The angular velocity after 44 years is the distance traveled divided by the time needed

100,977.071 rad / 1,388,534,427 sec = 7.272205075235E-05   rad/sec

Final angular velocity = Initial angular velocity + angular acceleration * Time

We get an angular deceleration of 1.018396E-21 rad/sec^2 for the 44 year duration.

So, if you put the numbers back to the equation and since acceleration is the opposite of deceleration ...

You get the table below.

Now is their any problem with my math?

Let's talk about conservation of angular momentum in the thread

https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=71441.0

Yes namely the current application of leap second have NOTHING to do with the earth slowing down but everything to do between the already present different between Atomic Time and Universal time.

No you are wrong, the atomic time will lose 1 second in 100 million years.

Universal time, is the time that it takes for the earth to rotate once on it's access.

If the earth did not slow down, then both the Atomic time and the Universal time would be in sync.

Actually the earth rotation was never ever exactly matched 86400 si seconds (well maybe on some lucky days but not constantly), so no they not be in sync, from earthquakes to celestial bodies passing by there are several factor causing irregularities in earth rotation, the fact that the earth is slowing down is just one factor.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Conservation of angular Momentum
« on: July 27, 2017, 04:17:54 AM »
I will admit that I was wrong about my calculations of the earth rotation do to leap second.

We are all agreeing that the earth is slowing down.

We have been told that the universe was created by a very fast dot that was spinning so fast and the gravitational forces were so strong that it exploded.

Conservation of angular momentum dictates that the parts that exploded of must keep the spin rate.

From my calculations, the earth 10 billion years ago was only spinning at the rate of 5 times today's spin.

So we can have two possibilities

1)   The big bang dot was not spinning very fast as they told us.
2)   A braking system was applied to the earth to stop spinning.

Either way, the Big Bang has a problem

Was the dot spinning very fast as we been told or was there a braking mechanism that made the earth stop?

Please explain and show physics to back up your claims.

Big bang is not eqaul to the formation of the earth. Please make specific claims, with your specific evidence :

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Let me clarify my calculations.

For a circle to make 1 revolution, it needs to go threw 360 degrees or 2pi or 6.283 rad

A year has 365.25 Days, so a Day has 6.283 rad
In 1 year we have 365.25 days times 6.283 rad = 2294.933 rad

1 day has 86400 sec and a year has 31,557,600 sec

From 1972 till 2016 we have 44 years

In 44 years we have  1,388,534,427 sec (including the 27 leap second) and we have traveled by 100,977.071 rad

The angular velocity originally is 6.283 rad  / 86400 sec = 7.272205216643E-05   rad/sec

The angular velocity after 44 years is the distance traveled divided by the time needed

100,977.071 rad / 1,388,534,427 sec = 7.272205075235E-05   rad/sec

Final angular velocity = Initial angular velocity + angular acceleration * Time

We get an angular deceleration of 1.018396E-21 rad/sec^2 for the 44 year duration.

So, if you put the numbers back to the equation and since acceleration is the opposite of deceleration ...

You get the table below.

Now is their any problem with my math?

Let's talk about conservation of angular momentum in the thread

https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=71441.0

Yes namely the current application of leap second have NOTHING to do with the earth slowing down but everything to do between the already present different between Atomic Time and Universal time.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Lunar Lander Altimeter???
« on: July 27, 2017, 04:09:05 AM »
Great!!!

Then the power consumption of the lander must be looked at if it was possible, which I'm sure the numbers will check out.

I hated electrical calculations in college and I will not do them, but I found the following

5 batteries for the decent at 29 volts and 400 amp - hr (each)

power consumption is 210 Watts for radar

Somebody can do the math

https://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/20090016295.pdf

https://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/ApolloLMRadarTND6849.pdf

Have fun

Another cryptic bullshit where you trick people to go through tech specs and calculations just to show you there are no condradictions ? NO thanks.

Do the math show your proof THEN make your claim.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: For Spherical Earth Believers Only
« on: July 26, 2017, 07:23:28 AM »
Or just set up a microwave link beyond specification, oh those determined by earth curvature and radio propagation, line of sight communication



And how do we know that the satellites are real and not a landbase tower...

again, you fail to see the most obvious of things.

He is God, he can do the most miraculously things with a blink of an eye...

But you did not ask him to let you see it from above...


TRANSMITTING AND RECEIVING ANTENNA no sats, set them up beyond spec, go ahead :

And how do you know that it's not the Russians giving you a bogus signal, after all if they hacked the US election, then they can surly do this...

I mean go to the fuckin store buy microwave com equipment, set it the fuck up beyond the earth curve now send your own stupid data through, good luck. :D

https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/waterproof-5-8GHz-50km-wireless-microwave_60439189318.html
Where do i find that sort of store?

There is a link for a start also, or check on ebay, or ask google for a local retailer.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: For Spherical Earth Believers Only
« on: July 26, 2017, 06:54:25 AM »
Or just set up a microwave link beyond specification, oh those determined by earth curvature and radio propagation, line of sight communication



And how do we know that the satellites are real and not a landbase tower...

again, you fail to see the most obvious of things.

He is God, he can do the most miraculously things with a blink of an eye...

But you did not ask him to let you see it from above...


TRANSMITTING AND RECEIVING ANTENNA no sats, set them up beyond spec, go ahead :

And how do you know that it's not the Russians giving you a bogus signal, after all if they hacked the US election, then they can surly do this...

I mean go to the fuckin store buy microwave com equipment, set it the fuck up beyond the earth curve now send your own stupid data through, good luck. :D

https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/waterproof-5-8GHz-50km-wireless-microwave_60439189318.html

Life is not hard to figure out and it can't be found in a test tube.

The simplest answered are the best sometime.

I was honest with you and stated that if NASA would take me to the moon and I could see the Earth, sun and stars, I would believe the heliocentric model, but you on the other hand want to pound your agenda and the way of thinking.

In your way, anybody could find real and stupid reason to say that your experiment is bogus.

In my way, if you so the sun and moon going around the earth and the earth being flat with the ice rings, would that not convince you?

If no, then their is nothing that I can do for you, but some friendly advice, God forbid your child get some sickness, God will be their for you, the only thing that you will have to do is to ask for his help with all you heart and soul.

LOL fuck off you monster :D

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: For Spherical Earth Believers Only
« on: July 26, 2017, 06:15:07 AM »
Or just set up a microwave link beyond specification, oh those determined by earth curvature and radio propagation, line of sight communication



And how do we know that the satellites are real and not a landbase tower...

again, you fail to see the most obvious of things.

He is God, he can do the most miraculously things with a blink of an eye...

But you did not ask him to let you see it from above...


TRANSMITTING AND RECEIVING ANTENNA no sats, set them up beyond spec, go ahead :

And how do you know that it's not the Russians giving you a bogus signal, after all if they hacked the US election, then they can surly do this...

I mean go to the fuckin store buy microwave com equipment, set it the fuck up beyond the earth curve now send your own stupid data through, good luck. :D

https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/waterproof-5-8GHz-50km-wireless-microwave_60439189318.html

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: For Spherical Earth Believers Only
« on: July 26, 2017, 06:06:33 AM »
Or just set up a microwave link beyond specification, oh those determined by earth curvature and radio propagation, line of sight communication



And how do we know that the satellites are real and not a landbase tower...

again, you fail to see the most obvious of things.

He is God, he can do the most miraculously things with a blink of an eye...

But you did not ask him to let you see it from above...

LOl Do these poor central european students needed a god for sendimg up a micro satellite and take pics of earth ?

http://cubesat.bme.hu/en/galeria/masat-1-urfelvetelei/

Do not think so.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: For Spherical Earth Believers Only
« on: July 26, 2017, 06:04:02 AM »
Or just set up a microwave link beyond specification, oh those determined by earth curvature and radio propagation, line of sight communication



And how do we know that the satellites are real and not a landbase tower...

again, you fail to see the most obvious of things.

He is God, he can do the most miraculously things with a blink of an eye...

But you did not ask him to let you see it from above...


TRANSMITTING AND RECEIVING ANTENNA no sats, set them up beyond spec, go ahead :

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You have no common sense and the thread https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=71430.0 prove it.

When you need more time for an object to cover the same distance is it going faster, slower or the same?

This is not really hard to figure out!!! Any grade-school student can tell you the answer

I simply can't resist posting this video.

YOUR calculations in a nutshell



Slower like around 0.5-2 millisecond, and that will accumulate over time to a leap second,as explained above. but that doesnt means that the earth slowed 1 sec. It will still go with 24 h + 0.5-2 ms

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: For Spherical Earth Believers Only
« on: July 26, 2017, 05:58:34 AM »
What would it take for a Spherical Earth Believe to accept that the Earth is Flat?

Be honest, their must be something that God could do for you, in order to believe that the earth is Flat

A MAP :D really, mind you it can be done with 17th century tech.... so go ahead, and don't need a god for that.

You too have NO common sense, the simplest answer is always the best!

Take you up in space so you can see the Earth, and Sun and if the Earth is a sphere and not flat, to take you to the moon to walk on it.


That's hardly the simplest maybe the simpletonest, I am not five year old thanks I am fine to think in geometric relations.

Also there is something called geodesy its literally measuring the earth shape, the actual geometry for maps, borders and large scale constructions.

Please provide your geodetic measurements here, its only takes some skill and a theodolite can be brought on ebay  :

And how do you know that they are true and not fake...

Just say the truth that you did not think about it.

Just be honest and stop trying to BS your way out of it.

And thank you for helping me prove my point, that you lack common sense.

How do I know ? :D USING a map maybe actually going out and confirm distances with traveling them ? Thats count for one, also there is a whole industry and economy depending on accurate maps, and they seems to work just fine.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: For Spherical Earth Believers Only
« on: July 26, 2017, 05:55:05 AM »
Or just set up a microwave link beyond specification, oh those determined by earth curvature and radio propagation, line of sight communication


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Flat Earth Debate / Re: For Spherical Earth Believers Only
« on: July 26, 2017, 05:44:14 AM »
What would it take for a Spherical Earth Believe to accept that the Earth is Flat?

Be honest, their must be something that God could do for you, in order to believe that the earth is Flat

A MAP :D really, mind you it can be done with 17th century tech.... so go ahead, and don't need a god for that.

You too have NO common sense, the simplest answer is always the best!

Take you up in space so you can see the Earth, and Sun and if the Earth is a sphere and not flat, to take you to the moon to walk on it.


That's hardly the simplest maybe the simpletonest, I am not five year old thanks I am fine to think in geometric relations.

Also there is something called geodesy its literally measuring the earth shape, the actual geometry for maps, borders and large scale constructions.

Please provide your geodetic measurements here, its only takes some skill and a theodolite can be brought on ebay  :

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: For Spherical Earth Believers Only
« on: July 26, 2017, 05:25:00 AM »
What would it take for a Spherical Earth Believe to accept that the Earth is Flat?

Be honest, their must be something that God could do for you, in order to believe that the earth is Flat

A MAP :D really, mind you it can be done with 17th century tech.... so go ahead, and don't need a god for that.

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A graph of the years past from 1972 and the number of leap seconds added

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DATA

The years that leap seconds where added

Year   Leap Seconds
1972   2
1973   1
1974   1
1975   1
1976   1
1977   1
1978   1
1979   1
1980   0
1981   1
1982   1
1983   1
1984   0
1985   1
1986   0
1987   1
1988   0
1989   1
1990   1
1991   0
1992   1
1993   1
1994   1
1995   1
1996   0
1997   1
1998   1
1999   0
2000   0
2001   0
2002   0
2003   0
2004   0
2005   1
2006   0
2007   0
2008   1
2009   0
2010   0
2011   0
2012   1
2013   0
2014   0
2015   1
2016   1
2017   0


you showed an antomic clock SKIPPING a second.

Atomic clocks dont make the earth rotates slower

Show me the earth rotating slower by 27 sec since 1973 here :

Put up or shut up

Oh btw yesterday was 86400.0005597 sec long or s hour and 0.5597 ms thats not even longer by 1 sec ?

Almost like if this is true , right ? :D :

Length of the day today  86400.0005597 seconds thats the Universal time

International Atomic Time  86400 sec a day.

Difference: 0.0005597

remember we have this difference because of the definitions of a day in the two system Atomic time measures the day as 86400 si seconds and universal time refers to the Earth's rotation around its own axis.

What happens when that remains constant for a year ? Means no change in earth angular speed and other factors.

Lets count Days together !

Chose a fairly big number let pass 1787 day

In Atomic Time its : 86400.0005597*1787 = 154396800

In Universal Time : 86400.0005597*1787 = 154396801

Did you noticed something ? 154396801

Thats in red right there is your Leap second, that means we have to LEAP that second to allow Universal time to catch up with the day counting of Atomic time. And Earth not even slowed a bit in our example, we just had the initial difference based on the definitions.

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While you're at it, ask the sixth grader what the Earth looks like!


Oh, that's right... You'll simply claim "total indoctrination".

You must have some great dreams about the heliocentric fair-tail



Give you one last chance, first think about that why nobody else define apply use or otherwise think about leap second as you, maybe you are the one not understanding it and not the International Earth Rotation and Reference Systems Service ? :D Just maybe

Then Lets examine an actual practical case :

Length of the day today  86400.0005597 seconds thats the Universal time

International Atomic Time  86400 sec a day.

Difference: 0.0005597

remember we have this difference because of the definitions of a day in the two system Atomic time measures the day as 86400 si seconds and universal time refers to the Earth's rotation around its own axis.

What happens when that remains constant for a year ? Means no change in earth angular speed and other factors.

Lets count Days together !

Chose a fairly big number let pass 1787 day

In Atomic Time its : 86400.0005597*1787 = 154396800

In Universal Time : 86400.0005597*1787 = 154396801

Did you noticed something ? 154396801

Thats in red right there is your Leap second, that means we have to LEAP that second to allow Universal time to catch up with the day counting of Atomic time. And Earth not even slowed a bit in our example, we just had the initial difference based on the definitions.

So that is the whole reason behind leap second, hope you understand now.

Any question ?

Hope thats clear.


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Bottom line, the Earth spins slower every year and we have to add a leap second to make it up every x years.

That means that the earth was spinning faster in the previous years and thus 140,800 years ago, the earth would be spinning at 60 RPM.
No.  Adding a leap second every few years is not the same thing as redefining the length of a year.

A year is defined as 31,536,000 seconds (give or take).  Adding a leap second means that this year will be 31,536,001 seconds long, but next year will still be 31,536,000 seconds (unless they need to add another leap second).

There is even talk of abolishing the leap second.
https://qz.com/432787/the-origin-of-leap-seconds-and-why-they-should-be-abolished/


But a earth revolution only needs 86,400 seconds. Why are you talking years to confuse the people. The people are really smart and can understand everything and you are really discrediting the Spherical Earth Society.

It is clear that you don't understand the basic angular velocity or that you are a troll.

Go ask a fifth grader, maybe he can help you...

Ask him to turn his bicycle upside down so the wheels face up.

Ask him to spin the wheel. If the wheel needs more time to complete the 360 degrees, will it accelerate of decelerate?

If you increase the time, while having the 360 Degrees the same, you will slow down.


Your under pressure to prove to your masters that you are worthy of your position!



Its called LEAP second, is that word ring a bell ? Almost like they named it like that because it SKIP a second, leap it , right ? Thats right they dont add it they skip it to allow UT1 to catch up to atomic time.

Is that clear ?

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Bottom line, the Earth spins slower every year and we have to add a leap second to make it up every x years.

That means that the earth was spinning faster in the previous years and thus 140,800 years ago, the earth would be spinning at 60 RPM.

Therefore, at 60 RPM, life could not existed, that means that either

1) your timescales is wrong, that the dinesores live 100 million years ago

or

2) The Earth is Flat.


You can decide what is right, but in the infamous words of MC Hammer




At the beginning, based on the Bible timeline about 6,500 years ago, the earth needed 22.89 hours to make a revolution

Which is more believable


I see where you lost

We    measure    time   passed in DAYS then years NOT in seconds

That mean when International Atomic time count 1 day by x milliseconds sooner that will accumulate day by day against  Universal Time.

Lets exaggerate 

IAT 24h

UT is 24 hour +1 sec constant

There you have to add a leap second EVERY DAY

Does that mean that after 10 days your days will be 10 sec longer ?

YES/NO ? :


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https://www.sciencealert.com/sorry-everyone-2016-will-have-an-extra-second-added-to-the-end-of-it

Sorry Everyone, 2016 Will Have an Extra Second Added to The End of It


Yep, as you finally count down the end of 2016, you'll have to make it past 11:59:60, thanks to the addition of an extra 'leap second'.

These leap seconds are added to make up for the fact that Earth's rotation is gradually slowing down, and to make sure that our precise clocks remain in sync with how long a day lasts on Earth.

"This extra second, or leap second, makes it possible to align astronomical time, which is irregular and determined by Earth's rotation, with Coordinated Universal Time (UTC) which is extremely stable and has been determined by atomic clocks since 1967," explained the Paris Observatory in France, which houses the International Earth Rotation and Reference Systems Service (IERS), responsible for synchronising time.

When exactly that leap second will be added depends on your time zone - UTC is the primary time standard by which the rest of the time zones around the planet are set - but it'll be an extra second in the last minute of the year, which means the final minute of 2016 will last for 61 seconds.

"The sequence of dates of the UTC second markers will be: 2016 December 31 23h 59m 59s, 2016 December 31 23h 59m 60s, 2017 January 1, 0h 0m 0s," the IERS website states.

A leap second was added last year at the end of June, and it's usually done either in the middle or at the end of the year, because our poor old technology can't handle slotting the extra second in anywhere else.


So why do we need leap seconds at all? An astronomical day is marked by how long it takes Earth to spin on its axis, and this isn't as reliable as you might think.

Earth's rotation fluctuates slightly year to year, sometimes getting longer, sometimes shorter. Overall, it's gradually slowing down ever so slightly as a result of the Moon's tidal pull acting like a brake on our planet.

The spin is also influenced by geological events such as strong earthquakes, and even the freezing and melting of ice sheets.

As the planet spins slower, astronomical time gradually falls out of sync with atomic time (TAI), which is measured here on Earth by nearly 400 super-accurate atomic clocks.

"As a result, sometimes we need to add an extra second to our clocks, because Earth's rotation is slowing down by two-thousandths of a second every day," Signe Dean explained for us last year.

This is also the same reason that we add leap days to certain years. And if you thought 2016 felt extra long, then, you're right, because this year had a leap day as well as getting an extra leap second.

Then you finally understand and acknowledge your error ? Good

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You are right, the earth is slowing down. That has nothing to do with leap seconds though. Leap seconds are because a day is not exactly 24 hours. It is a little different, by about 1 second every 1.5 years (rough ballpark estimate). But this difference stays the same! (Well roughly, we have slowed down by a few microseconds since the last million years, but this is basically neglible).

In the last 44 years, the scientist have added 27 lead seconds and subtracted 0 leap second. Their is  a pattern in the leap second.

If the scientist have added a leap second in the last 44 years, that is from the time that they began talking about time correction and leap seconds, please post citation of the year.


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Do you really think scientists are this stupid?


No Liars, when it comes to defend the heliocentric fair-tail


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That such a simple argument would not have been detected decades ago?

When did it become important to have a an accurate time system?
Oh yes in the computer age.

When did the computer age start?
in the 60's

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You are extremely ignorant.

So tell me, how does it feel that an ignorant man was able to debunk your heliocentric fair-tail?

But if I am wrong, please post citation where it states that from 1972 and afterwards they subtracted a leap year!!!

Lenght of a day today : 24 hours and 0.57 ms

Lenght of a day at Wednesday, 25 July 1973
24 hours and 2.2120 milliseconds

Where is your claimed +27 seconds longer day ?

Funny people make funny math!

Leap second, not millisecond.

A leap second is a one-second adjustment that is occasionally applied to Coordinated Universal Time (UTC) in order to keep its time of day close to the mean solar time, or UT1.

This song might help you.



Then have it in seconds

24 hours, 0 minutes, 0.0022120 seconds

and

24 hours, 0 minutes, 0.0005701 seconds


So Where is your claimed +27 seconds ? Isnt that its just like they correct the accumulating error from irregularities between UTC and UT1 ? BY STOPPING UTC for a sec..

THat means no +1 sec longer days for you, sorry


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Also leap seconds BY DEFINITION do not mean +1 sec longer day:

When the difference between UTC and UT1 approaches 0.9 seconds, a leap second is added to UTC and to clocks worldwide. By adding an additional second to the time count, our clocks are effectively stopped for that second to give Earth the opportunity to catch up.

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Quote
You are right, the earth is slowing down. That has nothing to do with leap seconds though. Leap seconds are because a day is not exactly 24 hours. It is a little different, by about 1 second every 1.5 years (rough ballpark estimate). But this difference stays the same! (Well roughly, we have slowed down by a few microseconds since the last million years, but this is basically neglible).

In the last 44 years, the scientist have added 27 lead seconds and subtracted 0 leap second. Their is  a pattern in the leap second.

If the scientist have added a leap second in the last 44 years, that is from the time that they began talking about time correction and leap seconds, please post citation of the year.


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Do you really think scientists are this stupid?


No Liars, when it comes to defend the heliocentric fair-tail


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That such a simple argument would not have been detected decades ago?

When did it become important to have a an accurate time system?
Oh yes in the computer age.

When did the computer age start?
in the 60's

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You are extremely ignorant.

So tell me, how does it feel that an ignorant man was able to debunk your heliocentric fair-tail?

But if I am wrong, please post citation where it states that from 1972 and afterwards they subtracted a leap year!!!

Lenght of a day today : 24 hours and 0.57 ms

Lenght of a day at Wednesday, 25 July 1973
24 hours and 2.2120 milliseconds

Where is your claimed +27 seconds longer day ?

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How about this for the reason for the tides,

A Letter Dated 1577 from Mercator to John Dee which talk about a magnetic moutain that pulled the nails out of two ship that sank and I believe 4 ships got lost in the giant whirpool in the center of the North Poll.

This letter was written for the King, and the author was the Einstein of the time for making maps. I don't believe that if Eistein would have written a letter to the President of the United States, that he would lie.

https://www.jstor.org/stable/1150242?seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents

Also below is a video of a Russian airplane over the North Poll. I don't know if the video it is true or not, but let me throw it out their for you to decide.

But the letter is real



Good joob pooping your own thread, anyway you officially dropped the leap sec argument ?

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Since you asked it soooo nicely

http://jkas.kas.org/journals/2012v45n2/v45n2p049_naa.pdf

That reference cannot be used as proof of anything.

It is totally based on the results first published by J. Laskar, namely this one:

https://www.imcce.fr/fr/presentation/equipes/ASD/preprints/prep.2004/La_2004_prep.pdf

Those types of calculations are useless without specifying first THE SET OF INITIAL VALUES of the orbital equations of motion.

All of the necessary details here, including an analysis of Laskar's papers:

https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=30499.msg1774581#msg1774581

For example, a difference in the initial position of 1 cm grows to ∼1 AU (= 1.496 x 10^11 m) after 90–150 million years.

And I dont used it as a proof, just provided as a model.

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After we learned that Leap seconds are NOT the actual rate which earth slowing down its just the cumulating difference between International Atomic Time (TAI)(A time scale that combines the output of some 200 highly precise atomic clocks worldwide, and provides the exact speed for our clocks to tick) and Universal Time (UT1)(also known as Astronomical Time, refers to the Earth's rotation around its own axis, which determines the length of a day.)

Lets find out the real rate of earth slowing down : The main reason for the slowing down of the Earth's rotation is tidal friction, which alone would lengthen the day by 2.3 ms/century.

(Stephenson, F.R.; Morrison, L.V. (1995). "Long-term fluctuations in the Earth's rotation: 700 BC to AD 1990". Philosophical Transactions of the Royal Society of London, Series A. 351 (1695): 165–202. Bibcode:1995RSPTA.351..165S. doi:10.1098/rsta.1995.0028)

In a nutshell  in terms of solar time, most days are a little longer than 24 hours.

And that lead to a cumulative error, thats why Leap seconds added, so you can see that adding a leap second NOT equal + 1 second longer day, lets see an example:

Today is predicted to be 0,5701 ms (milliseconds) or 0,0005701 seconds longer than 24 hours. This is the time it takes Earth to rotate 26,52 cm (10,44 in), as measured at the equator.

This means that today lasts:

24,0000001584 hours or
24 hours and 0,57 ms
On average, a mean solar day in the last 365 days was 24 hours+ 1,17 ms. Over this period, 5167695 days have been longer than today, while 319 have been shorter than today.

If every day was as long as today, a leap second would have to be added every 1754,08 days.

In rare cases, a day can also be shorter than 24 hours. The last time this happened was on Mon, 18 Jul 2016 (day was 0.03 ms short). However, the average day exceeds 24 hours.

To make up for the additional duration, leap seconds are added to our clocks from time to time.

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Anyway what is the reason for leap seconds on flat earth ? You argue here with a classical BALL EARTH creationist technique, where they kindly forget that the earth rotation is irregular on the atomic time precision and unpredictable.

The reason we have to add a second now and then is that the velocity of Earth's rotation around its own axis does not match the speed of atomic time. On average, it is a tiny bit too slow—and it is gradually slowing down, although very slightly.

Atomic clocks, however, tick away at pretty much the same speed over millions of years. Compared to the Earth's rotation, atomic clocks are simply too consistent

Leap seconds are irregularly spaced because the Earth's rotation speed changes irregularly. Indeed, the Earth's rotation is quite unpredictable in the long term, which explains why leap seconds are announced only six months in advance.

Deviation of day length from SI-based day (86'400 s) 1962–2015: daily, moving 365-day average and cumulative. For comparison, displays UTC leap seconds:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5b/Deviation_of_day_length_from_SI_day.svg

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