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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Emergency Plane Landings
« on: July 11, 2019, 08:55:28 AM »
Yeah, kinda funny how a plane making a one way trip from Australia to South America makes an emergency landing in Alaska.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Why do you support donald trump
« on: July 11, 2019, 08:31:22 AM »
For total:


Everybody gets taxation Pez.

Everybody understands taxation Pez.
Yeah that's what I thought too, but here you are.
Yeah, here I am.

Clearly explaining appropriate form of taxation.
Wtf when did I ever say anything about austerity? Do you even know what austerity is?
You didn't.

Just like the rest who scream about needing a helping hand due to their inability to manage their personal lives, you see no reason to mention the debilitating consequence.
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I am just grateful I will not have to live much longer and put up with it.
Yeah I'm kinda grateful you won't live much longer too.
True colors.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Why do you support donald trump
« on: July 11, 2019, 07:02:10 AM »
Can't wait for Mueller to testify about this wording in his report:

"The Office cannot rule out that stolen documents were transferred to WikiLeaks through
intermediaries who visited during the summer of 2016."

"Beginning in the summer of 2016, Assange and WikiLeaks made a number of statements
about Seth Rich, a former DNC staff member who was killed in July 2016. The statements about Rich implied falsely that he had been the source of the stolen DNC emails."

How does he know it is a false implication?

Not the only POS contradiction found in the report, by the way.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Why do you support donald trump
« on: July 11, 2019, 06:41:34 AM »
For total:


Everybody gets taxation Pez.

Everybody understands taxation Pez.

When it occurs and the reason why the current process is counterproductive is what you and 9/10's of the world don't get.

For you, austerity measures are a way of life...

You believe this is perfectly normal and should be adopted by the rest of the world.

Oh...

I am under no illusion they will not...

I am just grateful I will not have to live much longer and put up with it.

You and other like-minded imbeciles will have one less back upon which to rest your lazy asses.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Why do you support donald trump
« on: July 11, 2019, 04:25:07 AM »
This is probably the longest post I've seen from totallackey. He's really mad today for some reason.
Mad?

Nope.

Just another instance of your take on reality being totally off-base.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Why do you support donald trump
« on: July 11, 2019, 03:57:14 AM »
...Yes, America gives alot of money but they only do it when they want to.  Ask someone to donate to a charity and they might.  Ask them to pay more in taxes to help people and they tell you to go away.
And that is exactly the whole point. The USA has given more of itself than all the other countries have combined.
Americans also don't see each other as Americans.
Wrong.
See here in Norway (I can't speak for anyone else).
Right.
Everyone looks at everyone else as Norwegians.
Wrong.

Only Scandinavians with a Norwegian surname are recognized as Norwegians.
They pay their taxes and their socialized medicine because it makes sense.  "Why wouldn't I help my fellow countryman?  They'll do the same for me if I need help."  That's the mentality America lacks.

Wrong.
Half the nation hates the other half just by political party. Forget such issues as state rivalry, east vs west, city vs rural...
Hyperbolic rant. 
So, sadly, Universal care will not work in America even if America magically had enough money to support it without making any cuts.  As totallacky deomstrates quite nicely: Why should I pay for you to have your "life, liberty, and persuit of happiness?"
People across the earth would have much more to give if government learned to not tax production.

Something you should learn.
No, its people who can't afford it.  People who die if they can't buy meds. $200 for a month supply of insulin is a lot.
I agree the price of insulin is ridiculous.

I happen to disagree on the cause.

Government involvement is what is driving costs up.

Government protectionism of established companies, like oil and pharmaceuticals.

If government was out of it, the dollar would then be allowed to vote on who stays in business.
Need I remind you that there are a total of 3 companies who supply insulin and all of them raised their prices at once.
No, you don't need to remind me. I stated why that it is the case.

Government protectionism.
Tell me, oh wise one... what stops those three companies from simply saying "Hey, let's just divide up customers and keep our prices high?"  Why compete when you can make a really good profit cooperating?
They can do it due to...wait for it...

Government protectionism.
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And, the fact of the matter is this.

People die.

You write is if they somehow shouldn't.
Yes.  People die.  But there's a difference between dying because there isn't anything reasonable to do and dying because of some very treatable disease that you were not able to fix because you didn't have enough money.
And if government wasn't robbing you of your earned wealth for redistribution and was instead:

A) not protecting other robbers by limiting free enterprise and competition; and,

II) taxing consumption across the board; then,

3) People who were smart with money would have enough money for their meds.

But that is another dirty little secret no one wants to talk about...

Most of the whining is done by pathetic morons who can't save a penny if their life depended on it.

It is these types morons who are crying the most, claiming, "VICTIM OF CIRCUMSTANCE!"

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Also, you have paradoxes.
I have a friend whose wife developed kidney cancer.  Both had insurance for themselves through their job.  Great yeah?
Except the wife lost her job because she was out too often due to her illness, doctor's appointments, treatments, etc...
So she lost her insurance.  Thus, can't pay and now is too sick to work.  How do you fix that?  Because the husband doesn't make enough to afford insurance for both and oh yeah, insurance is for profit so a cancer patient is a bad business partner.  A customer who costs more than they will ever pay.  So no reason to insure them.
So shift the burden to me or Joe Blow down the street?

Why?

As it stands right now, SS (a Ponzi scheme) is already broke.
Because they'd help you out when you need it.
I fail to understand how you have a problem then. According to you, other people are helping.

Where's the beef?
See, we live in what's called a Society.
Nothing gets by you.
Where people all work together, helping eachother, for the betterment of the whole.
Beautiful...the only thing missing is the violin... 
I mean, if you want to pull that shit, then tell me why I need my insurance payments to go to your medical care?
You shouldn't...
Why YOU should be allowed to drive on the streets that MY tax money paid for?
You shouldn't have to pay taxes for streets.

Business, if it wants to operate, should pay for them so consumers can get to and fro to conduct business. 
Why YOU should even be allowed to piss in a toilet at a rest stop when you have never paid a dime to cover the costs of building, maintaining, or general utilites?
Again, this too should be private enterprise.
The answer is: Because having you able to drive on our streets is better than not letting you or setting up a toll just to drive down mainstreet.  Just like having kids go to public school, paid for by everyone (not just those with kids in school) benefits everyone.
According to you (and me too, actually), public school too, is for shit in the US.

Private schools would be better.
Also: how much do you pay in taxes a year?  $10k to federal?  That's 1/3 of a soldier's salary.  So if you think an army's protection is good then for the price of 4 months of a soldier's salary, you get 24/7 protection from invasion.
I'd say thats more than you out in, wouldn't you?
Government's sole purpose of existence is to protect my pursuit of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

Not to rob me in order to pay for someone else's pursuit of the same.
And yet, you want them to not make sure you have that whole life bit eh?  I mean, it's pretty hard to persue happiness if you die.  Maybe from bad water.  Bad food.  Poor sanitation.  lack of medication.  Poor medication.  Fake medication.  Or just some asshole who decides to burn plastic next to your house for 5 years.  (PS. that's toxic and will kill you)
Government is not responsible for my decisions.

I do not want government making my decisions.

Sooner or later, at least this what my parents taught me, you lose the diaper.

Government is a shitty, unchanged diaper that babies still cry for.

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WHat all this proves, like it or not, is that we live on a sphere, and not a flat plane.
Furthermore, the fact all objects above a flat plane would be viewed as functioning within a cylinder.

This is what skews perspective and becomes viewed as spherical.

I donít understand your comment!

Flat earthers are always on about using ones eyes to see the truth of the matter.
It is how math operates.

Using your eyes, plus the brain...

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Why do you support donald trump
« on: July 10, 2019, 03:21:20 AM »
Why cut off just 100 when you can cut off 400 and still have a more expensive military than anyone else?

Did you just ignore me when I said you already pay a lot more for healthcare than you would for single payer?
Most sane people would ignore someone just typing a sentence with nothing to back it up.

I already have paid more into social security (about 100000) than I can ever hope to recoup when I retire.

Malthusian economics.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Why do you support donald trump
« on: July 10, 2019, 03:16:14 AM »
What is he even proving by drinking from the toilet?
Nobody is drinking from the toilet.

Jesus...

Get a freaking clue.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Why do you support donald trump
« on: July 10, 2019, 03:15:22 AM »
No, its people who can't afford it.  People who die if they can't buy meds. $200 for a month supply of insulin is a lot.
I agree the price of insulin is ridiculous.

I happen to disagree on the cause.

Government involvement is what is driving costs up.

Government protectionism of established companies, like oil and pharmaceuticals.

If government was out of it, the dollar would then be allowed to vote on who stays in business.

And, the fact of the matter is this.

People die.

You write is if they somehow shouldn't.
Also, you have paradoxes.
I have a friend whose wife developed kidney cancer.  Both had insurance for themselves through their job.  Great yeah?
Except the wife lost her job because she was out too often due to her illness, doctor's appointments, treatments, etc...
So she lost her insurance.  Thus, can't pay and now is too sick to work.  How do you fix that?  Because the husband doesn't make enough to afford insurance for both and oh yeah, insurance is for profit so a cancer patient is a bad business partner.  A customer who costs more than they will ever pay.  So no reason to insure them.
So shift the burden to me or Joe Blow down the street?

Why?

As it stands right now, SS (a Ponzi scheme) is already broke.
Also: how much do you pay in taxes a year?  $10k to federal?  That's 1/3 of a soldier's salary.  So if you think an army's protection is good then for the price of 4 months of a soldier's salary, you get 24/7 protection from invasion.
I'd say thats more than you out in, wouldn't you?
Government's sole purpose of existence is to protect my pursuit of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

Not to rob me in order to pay for someone else's pursuit of the same.

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WHat all this proves, like it or not, is that we live on a sphere, and not a flat plane.
Furthermore, the fact all objects above a flat plane would be viewed as functioning within a cylinder.

This is what skews perspective and becomes viewed as spherical.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Conservatives vs liberals
« on: July 09, 2019, 08:51:46 AM »
It is absolutely hilarious to see the blatant douchebaggery played out here...

OP title = Conservatives vs. liberals

Follow up posts: Republicans vs. liberals

LMMFAO

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Why do you support donald trump
« on: July 09, 2019, 08:45:48 AM »
"...why you've managed to have shittier healthcare than my broke ass country."
Curious, the UK has single payer healthcare and no one would even consider changing it for the US system.
Talks about the glorious nature of his healthcare system, yet offers no concrete details and offers up another supposed "...better than yours..." example...

Not one of you doofuses have ever experienced healthcare in the US to even make a just comparison.

Somebody told somebody you know the system was bad...

Here you are, foreign interlopers, all of you...

I thought foreigners interloping in US Politics was bad?

I have.
And Norwegian.

And I agree with these guys.  US has big issues.
The US has big issues with healthcare?

Only from people who believe things should be free.

Then there are the sane who realize as long as money exists, things will have a price.

There's also a cost attached to shitty healthcare systems

A society with many sick and broken people is not a productive one. If you should fall seriously ill or have an unfortunate accident, is it fair to pay more money than you may earn a year to pay for treatment? Is it fair a trip to an ED can cost tens of thousands of dollars when you may not have been seriously ill but doctors reamed you with tests anyway?

Is it fair that life saving drugs can cost you your house forcing you to choose between your life or your home?

The government can't fix all these issues. Certainly insurance companies and big pharma all play a role.

In America, if I broke my leg, I'd be royally screwed without private insurance. I'd probably have to sell my house to get money to pay for treatment. In Australia, the hospital will operate the next day for free.

It costs money to operate sure but the saving to society is greater. Healthy unbroken people don't have to rely on social security or disability support. Plus our continued employment raises tax revenue and the fact we contribute to society through our work.
There will always be unhealthy people in the world...

That is the way of life.

Immutable.

I am not responsible for other people's health.

Each person is responsible for their own health, just like they are responsible for their food.

Only a crook tries to tell another person, "Hey, you are responsible for (insert topic here). becasue I can't pay."

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Why do you support donald trump
« on: July 09, 2019, 08:42:34 AM »
You're right! Someone does get taxed to pay for the free stuff!

Thing is, the return the majority of people get by far outpaces the increased contribution they have to pay. It is not that complicated. Most of the costs are payed by the richest few people. American conservatives not understanding these things or lying about them is why you've managed to have shittier healthcare than my broke ass country.
This is rich!

Pezevenk - "You receive more than what you put in."

SHEER HILARITY AT ITS FINEST!
Do you have like an argument or something?
The argument is readily apparent to even a 2 year old mind.

People who work for 30 years contribute far more to the state than they can ever hope to receive back.
Not how taxes work. But you probably know and you are just trolling. Why did I ever think I could talk to you anyways?
That is exactly how taxes work.

The government has collected far more from me than they have ever given me in return.

You are the one trolling if you are trying to substitute subtraction for addition.

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WHat all this proves, like it or not, is that we live on a sphere, and not a flat plane.
It proves nothing of the sort...

One could be standing on a perfectly flat surface with an object of any shape overhead, gain a perspective of one sort of view of the object, shift positions to the N, S, E, or W, and gain a totally different perspective of the exact same object.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Why do you support donald trump
« on: July 09, 2019, 03:45:38 AM »
If you read between the lines I said not EVERYONE will get more than they put in.

If you read between the lines I never said everyone would. Read my post:

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Thing is, the return the majority of people get by far outpaces the increased contribution they have to pay. It is not that complicated. Most of the costs are payed by the richest few people.

Plus I forgot to mention that because there is a very steep increase in the upper end of incomes and the mean income is above the median income, the people who will get more than they put in are in practice even more.

And I am totally fine with that.

You do realize we will have to fix our system completely for any of that to work. With medical care and pharmaceutical prices with no regulation and literally charging whatever the hell they want. You can tax all the rich 100 percent and that won't be a drop in the bucket
That's what I said. If you implement single payer properly it can work well in the US. It will also have the power to drop prices since the government will have much more power to negotiate. Also build proper free public hospitals.
The main problem in the US has always been the idea some people have...

That government can "fix," anything...

If there is one thing wise people have learned over the years, it is this maxim...

Government can't fix anything.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Why do you support donald trump
« on: July 09, 2019, 03:39:58 AM »
"...why you've managed to have shittier healthcare than my broke ass country."
Curious, the UK has single payer healthcare and no one would even consider changing it for the US system.
Talks about the glorious nature of his healthcare system, yet offers no concrete details and offers up another supposed "...better than yours..." example...

Not one of you doofuses have ever experienced healthcare in the US to even make a just comparison.

Somebody told somebody you know the system was bad...

Here you are, foreign interlopers, all of you...

I thought foreigners interloping in US Politics was bad?

I have.
And Norwegian.

And I agree with these guys.  US has big issues.
The US has big issues with healthcare?

Only from people who believe things should be free.

Then there are the sane who realize as long as money exists, things will have a price.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Why do you support donald trump
« on: July 09, 2019, 03:36:46 AM »
You're right! Someone does get taxed to pay for the free stuff!

Thing is, the return the majority of people get by far outpaces the increased contribution they have to pay. It is not that complicated. Most of the costs are payed by the richest few people. American conservatives not understanding these things or lying about them is why you've managed to have shittier healthcare than my broke ass country.
This is rich!

Pezevenk - "You receive more than what you put in."

SHEER HILARITY AT ITS FINEST!
Do you have like an argument or something?
The argument is readily apparent to even a 2 year old mind.

People who work for 30 years contribute far more to the state than they can ever hope to receive back.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Why do you support donald trump
« on: July 08, 2019, 09:02:53 AM »
"...why you've managed to have shittier healthcare than my broke ass country."
Curious, the UK has single payer healthcare and no one would even consider changing it for the US system.
Talks about the glorious nature of his healthcare system, yet offers no concrete details and offers up another supposed "...better than yours..." example...

Not one of you doofuses have ever experienced healthcare in the US to even make a just comparison.

Somebody told somebody you know the system was bad...

Here you are, foreign interlopers, all of you...

I thought foreigners interloping in US Politics was bad?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Why do you support donald trump
« on: July 08, 2019, 08:58:03 AM »
You're right! Someone does get taxed to pay for the free stuff!

Thing is, the return the majority of people get by far outpaces the increased contribution they have to pay. It is not that complicated. Most of the costs are payed by the richest few people. American conservatives not understanding these things or lying about them is why you've managed to have shittier healthcare than my broke ass country.
This is rich!

Pezevenk - "You receive more than what you put in."

SHEER HILARITY AT ITS FINEST!

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I have zero clue why anyone would interpret the OP as offering legitimate evidence.

"Someone told someone else this story and someone else put together these cool pictures!"

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Here you write Trump lied about it...he never did.
LOL, another quality post from the resident idiot.   Why not tell us about your opinion of Trump lying about his deal with Putin?
Here, you ask about why Michael Cohen went to jail...he didn't go to jail for lying to Congress.
I should have known better than to ask you to think for yourself.   

Here's a simpler version,  what did Michael Cohen go to jail for lying to congress about?
Like I wrote earlier, he went to jail for other lies  to other people.

You are wrong on both counts.

Trump repeatedly lied during the campaign about having any business  in Russia.   

Cohen did in fact go to jail for lying to congress,  read the indictment.   Very first item. 

The sentencing memo read as follows.
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US District Judge William Pauley in Manhattan sentenced Mr Cohen to 36 months for the payments, which violated campaign finance law, and to two months for the false statements to Congress.
Yeah, I notice copy pasta, with no link...

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Here you write Trump lied about it...he never did.
LOL, another quality post from the resident idiot.   Why not tell us about your opinion of Trump lying about his deal with Putin?
Here, you ask about why Michael Cohen went to jail...he didn't go to jail for lying to Congress.
I should have known better than to ask you to think for yourself.   

Here's a simpler version,  what did Michael Cohen go to jail for lying to congress about?
Like I wrote earlier, he went to jail for other lies  to other people.

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TOTAL ZERO!!!

LOL, another quality post from the resident idiot.   Why not tell us about your opinion of Trump lying about his deal with Putin?
Asking for an opinion of something that does not exist...

ZERO AGAIN!!!

I should have known better than to ask you to think for yourself.   

Here's a simpler version,  what did Michael Cohen go to jail for lying to congress about?
"...he pleaded guilty in August 2018 to tax evasion, false statements to a bank and campaign finance violations tied to hush money payments he made or orchestrated on behalf of Trump."

https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/06/politics/michael-cohen-goes-to-prison/index.html

Care to point out anything to do with Russia there?

Cohen was never charged with lying about a deal with Russia.

One, there ultimately was no deal with Russia.

B, a deal with Russia over a planned building is...not illegal...

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TOTAL ZERO!!!

LOL, another quality post from the resident idiot.   Why not tell us about your opinion of Trump lying about his deal with Putin?
Asking for an opinion of something that does not exist...

ZERO AGAIN!!!

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BWAHAHAHAHA!

Keep tryin' JerkFace...

Every single thing you, the Greek, and Breadcrumb have posted in this thread...

TOTAL ZERO!!!

Nothing new...

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Why do you support donald trump
« on: April 16, 2019, 03:55:33 AM »
We already have proof the Trump campaign colluded with the Russians
No.

You don't.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Why do you support donald trump
« on: April 15, 2019, 04:05:59 AM »
This is grounds for impeachment.

https://www.msnbc.com/the-beat-with-ari/watch/trump-floats-pardon-for-dhs-appointee-to-follow-his-order-1490320963774

Order someone to commit a crime on the promise of a pardon.   WTF?
You need to violate the law in order to get impeached.

No one has stated what Trump proposes is in direct violation of any law.

Even your own source states, "potentially illegal."

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Why do you support donald trump
« on: April 12, 2019, 03:05:24 AM »
If he's not actually an idiot, he plays a pretty good impression.  Still undecided.
Good thing the decision on you is already in...uh?

One less thing for you to worry about...

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