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What kind of evidence would shut you up? Please, let me know. Please.
Sattelite names nothing but a lie. They are only channel group names that listed by transmitter.They change as satellites orbit. Why should they be a lie? GPS works in the middle of oceans and elsewhere where there are no mobile or TV masts. Typically a receiver gets 15 or more US and Russian satellites.
Did you think how is an antenna gets the channels at same time from Russian and US sattelites that on the opposite side of the earth?
Oceans are flat areas and there is no interference effects to radio waves. So you can watch the tv on ocean. But i'm thinking that can't do that on Antarctica.
Satellite signals do not bounce off moisture.I'm not sure what the purpose of your post is intended do be. Are you stating that they cannot bounce off moisture, in which case I must refute that: all such signals will be reflected off anything tangible, such as sufficient concentrations of moisture. If you are simply claiming they do not, then it seems a purposefulness post until you explain how you ascertain that.
Hi all,
I was looking at casey stations Wikipedia page and shows climate and mean averages. Under daylight hours shows more in November and dropping over Dec/Jan. Mcmurdo wiki doesnt include daylight hours part.
Then I looked at Australia's Antarctica division page which mentions 24/7 daylight for few days around xmas. Seems odd if true that it would make sense if those days would be in November..
My cousin worked at Casey in mid 80s and he confirmed no 24/7 sun and said nothing like north's sun movement.
On a FE (or RE) the sun orbits on different paths. The latitudes the sun follows is undeniable. I will not show my math and some rounding was done but here is the conclusion.
I measured from the North Pole to the 23.5N latitude and then on to the 23.5S latitude. I adjusted these RE distances to eliminate the arc of a RE and provide distances as they would be on a FE. Which are the radius of the orbit of the sun on a FE.
On June 21st the sun will orbit along the 23.5N latitude and on Dec 21st the sun will orbit along the 23.5S latitude. On a FE the circumference of the orbits formed by the sun are: In June = 21645 miles and in Dec = 36914 miles. Since the sun appears along the same longitude every 24 hours, this means the sun has to change speeds, daily.
A 24hr cycle means that in June the sun is traveling 902MPH and in Dec it is traveling at 1538MPH. This is an acceleration change of 3.5MPH/per Day/for 182 days and then a reduction of speed by the same amounts. Thus changing a total of 636MPH every 6 months.
I don't think anyone can convince me that the sun has the ability to change speeds.Why is that any harder to swallow the the "celestial gears that explain Coriolis?
Quote from: the WikiWind Currents
The Wind Currents are put into gradual motion by the attraction of the Northern and Southern Celestial Systems, which are grinding against each other as gears.
While you are at it, maybe you could contemplate how the measured intensity of solar radiation in the southern hemisphere in its summer is about 7% higher than the solar radiation in the norther hemisphere in its summer.
How do we get all this extra energy out of the sun while it is covering are much bigger area of the earths surface.Someone must gradually turn up the wick on the sun's phlogiston burner! Ask jroa what phlogiston is.
Playing the devil's advocate here:
Have you performed said experiment yourself? What are your sources that the southern cross is actually visible from these three locations?
Also, this is not the FE map, as there is no FE map and therefore no contradictions of the FE map can be made.
Can you point out this large island on a map? The one they get people to sail around to keep the illusion going?
I bet it looks something like this (ignore the text in the middle, that's probably NASA propaganda anyway):
However he says he has been on a ship that went around antarctica,They were navigating around a large island. That is how the illusion is maintained.
There's a yacht race called the Antarctica cup. If Antarctica was actually the ice wall and circumnavigating it worked differently than yobbo described, it seems strange... dare I say, impossible?... that it could have been hidden so well for so long.
That's true he could have been navigating around a part that was sticking out
The ice is made of special molecules that are strong enough to bend light and time so it looks like you're going around it but actually it just makes you go faster around the edges and make you reach the other side of the earth quicker.
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here's a picture of the special molecule
1) The S. Celestial Pole is a SINGLE POINT. It and the N. Celestial Pole DEFINE the axis of rotation of the sky and Earth. This leads to the conclusion that the SCP and NCP MUST be over a SINGLE POINT on Earth. The SCP MUST be over the S.Pole of the Earth that is a SINGLE POINT. So, no, the Earth CAN NOT be a flat disk with people living on just one side. On such a disk, the true S.Pole (and the SCP above it) is UNDER the N.Pole and CAN NOT be seen from above the disk. Therefore, that picture is IMPOSSIBLE on a disk Earth. Spherical Earth +1, Flat Earth -infinity.
Simple. The earth is round. Next.
) someone who is a CSIRO scientist asked me to explain how when viewing a FE map, to circumnavigate antarctica you would reach the ice and turn to port (left) and keep turning to port with the ice on your starboard (right hand) side for a very very very long distance.I went on a cruise from florida to mexico, and when we were in the middle of the ocean, i took out my cellphone, and it was obviously nowhere near a cellphone tower, you can tell this by the obvious marking in the phone that says you have ZERO bars. I loaded up Google Maps and I got a GPS lock in the middle of the ocean, showing my location...... This works because satellites continuously orbit the earth broadcasting GPS signals...
The same is true if you go into the middle of the Florida Everglades where there is ZERO cellphone reception..... and no cellphone towers anywhere near enough.... you can still get a GPS lock... and see where you are on the map...
Satellites orbit the globe of the earth.
Perhaps you just suck at using phones or technology in general?
http://cruiseline.com/advice/before-you-cruise/what-to-know/how-to-use-your-cellphone-on-a-cruise-ship
Did you even read that page? You are not using your carriers network on a cruise ship, you are using the cruise ships network. Guess how the cruise ship connects to the internet? Through satellites.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/travel_news/article-3268288/The-WiFi-tide-turned-Cruise-ship-giant-slashes-internet-charges-90-guests-able-log-just-3-day.html
Currently 31 satellite systems have been deployed on 30 of its 100 ships with more planned over the coming months to extend the company's 'WiFi@Sea' connectivity network.
Perhaps you just suck at trying to abuse people.
The erroneous claim was made that cellphones are impossible to use on a ship. I proved that claim to be false. Do you even read the threads in which you post?
No his claim was that there is no mobile phone coverage on a ship, because cell phone towers are out of range, but GPS that works from satellites still works.
You tried to debunk what he said by saying that you can use cell phones on a ship.
But I debunked that by showing that the only way of using your cell phone on a ship is by connecting to their network that is supported by satellites.
Yes this is a thread about satellites, and so far, everyone agrees they exist, even you are posting links to support that fact.
The claim was made that there is no phone service and therefore no phone towers in the ocean. I proved that there is cell phone service in the middle of the ocean. Now, you are claiming that it somehow proves satellites exist, when you have no idea where the cell phone signals are coming from. Go ahead and try to spin your way out this one.
The cell phone service that exists in the middle of the ocean is provided by the ship you are on. You know how the ship is getting the service?
Through satellites. If the ship could get cell phone tower reception in the middle of the ocean, why would you need to use their satellite supported service?
Why not just connect to the cell phone towers yourself?
Again you linking to ship supported phone service only supports the idea of satellites.
I don't have much time, so I am going to make this quick. Signals can come from anything. Don't be a fucking retard.
I went on a cruise from florida to mexico, and when we were in the middle of the ocean, i took out my cellphone, and it was obviously nowhere near a cellphone tower, you can tell this by the obvious marking in the phone that says you have ZERO bars. I loaded up Google Maps and I got a GPS lock in the middle of the ocean, showing my location...... This works because satellites continuously orbit the earth broadcasting GPS signals...
The same is true if you go into the middle of the Florida Everglades where there is ZERO cellphone reception..... and no cellphone towers anywhere near enough.... you can still get a GPS lock... and see where you are on the map...
Satellites orbit the globe of the earth.
Perhaps you just suck at using phones or technology in general?
http://cruiseline.com/advice/before-you-cruise/what-to-know/how-to-use-your-cellphone-on-a-cruise-ship
Did you even read that page? You are not using your carriers network on a cruise ship, you are using the cruise ships network. Guess how the cruise ship connects to the internet? Through satellites.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/travel_news/article-3268288/The-WiFi-tide-turned-Cruise-ship-giant-slashes-internet-charges-90-guests-able-log-just-3-day.html
Currently 31 satellite systems have been deployed on 30 of its 100 ships with more planned over the coming months to extend the company's 'WiFi@Sea' connectivity network.
Perhaps you just suck at trying to abuse people.
The erroneous claim was made that cellphones are impossible to use on a ship. I proved that claim to be false. Do you even read the threads in which you post?
No his claim was that there is no mobile phone coverage on a ship, because cell phone towers are out of range, but GPS that works from satellites still works.
You tried to debunk what he said by saying that you can use cell phones on a ship.
But I debunked that by showing that the only way of using your cell phone on a ship is by connecting to their network that is supported by satellites.
Yes this is a thread about satellites, and so far, everyone agrees they exist, even you are posting links to support that fact.
The claim was made that there is no phone service and therefore no phone towers in the ocean. I proved that there is cell phone service in the middle of the ocean. Now, you are claiming that it somehow proves satellites exist, when you have no idea where the cell phone signals are coming from. Go ahead and try to spin your way out this one.
I think the point is Stellarium is programmed by NASA. But in order to make the night sky line up with Stellarium NASA has to control everything in the night sky. Only God and Satan have the power to do that. So I think this is further proof that NASA is run by satanists.Really, can you provide any evidence that Satan and NASA can control the night sky. This should be interesting...
I went on a cruise from florida to mexico, and when we were in the middle of the ocean, i took out my cellphone, and it was obviously nowhere near a cellphone tower, you can tell this by the obvious marking in the phone that says you have ZERO bars. I loaded up Google Maps and I got a GPS lock in the middle of the ocean, showing my location...... This works because satellites continuously orbit the earth broadcasting GPS signals...
The same is true if you go into the middle of the Florida Everglades where there is ZERO cellphone reception..... and no cellphone towers anywhere near enough.... you can still get a GPS lock... and see where you are on the map...
Satellites orbit the globe of the earth.
Perhaps you just suck at using phones or technology in general?
http://cruiseline.com/advice/before-you-cruise/what-to-know/how-to-use-your-cellphone-on-a-cruise-ship
Did you even read that page? You are not using your carriers network on a cruise ship, you are using the cruise ships network. Guess how the cruise ship connects to the internet? Through satellites.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/travel_news/article-3268288/The-WiFi-tide-turned-Cruise-ship-giant-slashes-internet-charges-90-guests-able-log-just-3-day.html
Currently 31 satellite systems have been deployed on 30 of its 100 ships with more planned over the coming months to extend the company's 'WiFi@Sea' connectivity network.
Perhaps you just suck at trying to abuse people.
The erroneous claim was made that cellphones are impossible to use on a ship. I proved that claim to be false. Do you even read the threads in which you post?
I went on a cruise from florida to mexico, and when we were in the middle of the ocean, i took out my cellphone, and it was obviously nowhere near a cellphone tower, you can tell this by the obvious marking in the phone that says you have ZERO bars. I loaded up Google Maps and I got a GPS lock in the middle of the ocean, showing my location...... This works because satellites continuously orbit the earth broadcasting GPS signals...
The same is true if you go into the middle of the Florida Everglades where there is ZERO cellphone reception..... and no cellphone towers anywhere near enough.... you can still get a GPS lock... and see where you are on the map...
Satellites orbit the globe of the earth.
Perhaps you just suck at using phones or technology in general?
http://cruiseline.com/advice/before-you-cruise/what-to-know/how-to-use-your-cellphone-on-a-cruise-ship
First off, if you load Stellarium (actually do something), you can see how the Mercury transit would have happened if you looked today (actually did something). Of course, no FEer is going to do this as it might burst their bubble. From my location in Denver, CO, the transit started around 06:55 (sunrise) and ended at 12:40 (approx 6 hrs later, so no, the pictures did not have to happen a week apart or some other dribble). BTW, Stellarium is doing the math from whatever location you put into it so we don't have to redo it. Why should anyone waste their time on your disbelief. Why don't you do the math and prove them wrong since you dispute the images and transit.Is that another stock image that you are trying to present as an actual experiment? Will NASA ever run out of computer generated images for you people to use in order to try to prove the shape of the Earth? Will you people ever stop saying that you can determine the shape of the Earth by looking at the sky?Looks to me that weeks have passed between the two images. I suppose you are going to claim that you took both pictures this morning?
Well yes actually along with about 20 others. Would you like all 20 of them? What makes you think that weeks have passed between images?...
The little dot is very close to the edge of the sun in one photo and very far from the edge in the other. Do I need to do the math in order to tell you how many tenths of a degree Mercury moves in relation to the sun per day, or are you going to just admit that you did not take both pictures at the same time?
What are you talking about?! Mercury transits the sun in about 5hours.
I watched most of it. Here is an image from about an hour later...
Notice how the same sunspot is present...which wouldn't be if these were taken on different days. Check the exif data if you don't believe me...
Second, as you and other FEers don't do astronomy or really know Astronomy 101, I expect nothing of importance from what you have to say about anything concerning astronomy - images, photographs, whatever - just screaming "fake" and "lalala" holding your ears. I know reality really sucks for FEers and their fantasies.
Third, for anyone who actually uses a telescope, your statements are quite ignorant. Aligning telescopes to track the sky, that has been done for decades, definitely determines the shape of the Earth. The mounts being aligned - corresponding the latitude of the observer AND pointing at the N/S Celestial Poles AND parallel to the Earth/Sky rotation - definitely and definitively demonstrate the Earth is spherical and definitely and definitively not FLAT. There is only one shape that I know of that has these properties simultaneously - a sphere. If you are too ignorant for that, oh well. Keep saying YOU can't determine the shape of the Earth from the sky (of course YOU can't because you won't even try. If you say it a couple thousand times it will be just as wrong as the first time you said it).
It would be of interest, if any FEer can actually explain how an equatorially mounted telescope even works on a FE (they work in reality - the real world - as evidenced by observatories and people who actually own one).
So jroa, go on with your FE fantasy that has absolutely NOTHING to do with reality - our world. Enlighten us.
I have Stellarium. Did it ever occur to you that the software was programmed by a group or entity that could code it anyway that they want to? Did it occur to you that NASA has programmers employed by them? I suppose that anything that Stellarium says must be the absolute truth, just like what ever the satanists at NASA say, right?
You also have eyes I assume, and you can look at the sky, to verify just how accurate Stellarium is. Guess what: you're not going to find a fault.
