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It's very curious how angry you are at employees not supporting publishing Peterson's book.

It's very curious you think I'm angry at employees because I want to have a discussion about them trying to block publication of Jordan Peterson's book, in a thread about Jordan Peterson, on a forum that is for having discussions about this sort of thing.
So we're having that discussion and you clearly don't seem very happy about them lol

What does my happiness have to do with anything? Do I need to be happy about their behavior in order to discuss it?  You are clearly not happy that I pointed out their behavior, why is that?
Did I say you have to be happy about their behavior to discuss it? I said I find it curious that you are angry about it. I don't understand what you are acting like you don't have any opinion now. If that is even what you are doing,  because to be honest I'm not sure what the point you are making now is supposed to be, like, yeah, this is a discussion, I know, what's the point?

U mad, bro? You seem a bit angry, tbh.
You didn't answer.

Follow up question: why are you acting like a 14 year old youtube commenter all of a sudden?

Because you are being retarted. Your question was "why am I angry at employees..." and then you accused me of not being very happy about them. I can't possibly think talking about grievance culture is interesting without being emotional, right?  I never acted like I don't have an opinion, you made that up for some reason. You tried to turn the discussion from what we were talking about, to talking about me personally. I am curious why you did that. I don't expect you to agree with me about these things, I would appreciate it if you could just have the discussion (or not, you can scroll past my posts).

You don't seem like you want to have the discussion really, unless I agreed. You just seem like you want to take issue at words and dance around the main point. So again, why are you angry unhappy outraged mildly annoyed heavily annoyed upset cranky disappointed mad disapproving (maybe?) of them not wanting to publish his book?

Apparently "grievance culture" now is not wanting to publish something you consider bad, but only when that something is reactionary. It started form banning people from social media, now it's basically employees voicing a disapproving opinion about publishing something in a particular publishing house after literally being asked if they approve of it. They don't want to publish JP's book? Sounds very woke and very evil. Join the concerned citizens club.

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The Lounge / Diego Maradona dies
« on: Today at 07:06:29 AM »
Surprised no one made a thread about this yet. I guess it's because football (the real one) isn't as popular in the US. Or maybe because Maradona in particular isn't as popular in the US.

But, like, the dude was a legend. By FB inbox basically blew up after news broke out that he died. He had come in Greece a few times many years ago and there was a huge commotion. His funeral in Argentina basically turned into a riot. My grandfather was a professional player and he loved that guy, I was pretty young when he died but I remember him talking about him.

Also cheating to beat the brits and then no one even being mad about it was funny too lol (except for the bits I guess):

And then in the same game he delivered the "goal of the century" (the commentator really makes it):

Too bad he was so heavily addicted to coke. Also I watched CNN's coverage of his death, it was pretty trash, they didn't say anything interesting about him, they just brought up the interview they took from him once over and over again.

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ALSO, reminder that Peterson hand wrings about evil students protesting speakers at universities because freeze peach, but has less than nothing to say about the actual state passing anti BDS laws and generally things that are far more material and important than whatever he chose to be upset about every now and then: https://www.reddit.com/r/JordanPeterson/comments/8k65ga/jordan_peterson_characterizes_critics_of_israel/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

Goes to show what his freeze peach thing is really about.

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I've listened to several hours of Peterson's lectures, conversations and debates.  I really can't find anything all that objectionable about him that they'd want to "cancel" him. 

He refused to do people's preferred pronouns.  And his philosophy is occasionally almost interesting but usually devolves into something about lobsters and chaos.

If I were a crybully then I think I'd want to save it for someone with a more coherent toxic message like Richard Spencer.

There is a reddit megathread some people made that mentions various reasons many people don't like him: https://www.reddit.com/r/enoughpetersonspam/comments/c2ny3g/why_do_you_hate_jordan_peterson_the_megathread/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

Also he influences young dudes into becoming complete weirdos who are permanently pissed at women. I have a friend whose ex boyfriend got into the Peterson bandwagon, he passes through many extremely weird phases. Apparently at some point he started looking into Aleister Crowley because he was trying to find something to bring order into his life that isn't exactly religion or some shit. He was doing greetings to the Sun God or whatever for a while. He also tried doing their weird carnivore diet but he was shit at committing to anything so that didn't work either. Eventually my friend just kinda got tired of his weird antics and his growing hostility to LGBT people and women so they stopped dating, although I don't understand why they didn't stop earlier, every time she talked to me about him it was always about something he did that she found stupid or made her angry lol

The difference is that Jordan Peterson influences far more people than Richard Spencer (who's kinda obsolete now anyways), but JP is the "gateway drug" for many of these people, someone who acts respectable, is a professor, talks as if he is your dad, etc.

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It's very curious how angry you are at employees not supporting publishing Peterson's book.

It's very curious you think I'm angry at employees because I want to have a discussion about them trying to block publication of Jordan Peterson's book, in a thread about Jordan Peterson, on a forum that is for having discussions about this sort of thing.
So we're having that discussion and you clearly don't seem very happy about them lol

What does my happiness have to do with anything? Do I need to be happy about their behavior in order to discuss it?  You are clearly not happy that I pointed out their behavior, why is that?
Did I say you have to be happy about their behavior to discuss it? I said I find it curious that you are angry about it. I don't understand what you are acting like you don't have any opinion now. If that is even what you are doing,  because to be honest I'm not sure what the point you are making now is supposed to be, like, yeah, this is a discussion, I know, what's the point?

U mad, bro? You seem a bit angry, tbh.
You didn't answer.

Follow up question: why are you acting like a 14 year old youtube commenter all of a sudden?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Jordan Peterson... thoughts?
« on: November 26, 2020, 04:26:31 PM »
It's very curious how angry you are at employees not supporting publishing Peterson's book.

It's very curious you think I'm angry at employees because I want to have a discussion about them trying to block publication of Jordan Peterson's book, in a thread about Jordan Peterson, on a forum that is for having discussions about this sort of thing.
So we're having that discussion and you clearly don't seem very happy about them lol

What does my happiness have to do with anything? Do I need to be happy about their behavior in order to discuss it?  You are clearly not happy that I pointed out their behavior, why is that?
Did I say you have to be happy about their behavior to discuss it? I said I find it curious that you are angry about it. I don't understand what you are acting like you don't have any opinion now. If that is even what you are doing,  because to be honest I'm not sure what the point you are making now is supposed to be, like, yeah, this is a discussion, I know, what's the point?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Jordan Peterson... thoughts?
« on: November 26, 2020, 03:33:23 PM »
It's very curious how angry you are at employees not supporting publishing Peterson's book.

It's very curious you think I'm angry at employees because I want to have a discussion about them trying to block publication of Jordan Peterson's book, in a thread about Jordan Peterson, on a forum that is for having discussions about this sort of thing.
So we're having that discussion and you clearly don't seem very happy about them lol

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Jordan Peterson... thoughts?
« on: November 26, 2020, 03:12:10 PM »

No university is obligated to give a platform to speakers the don’t want to hear speaking.

Actually, Every "school" which accepts money from taxpayers is obligated to allow free speech.
Really? Where does it say that? Do you think just anyone can go and speak in a university? Why is everyone acting like they JUST now figured out you can't speak whenever and wherever you want? Why is it even such a big issue that someone can't be invited speak in any particular university? Can't they live without the prestige? Like, this is not universities kicking out students or professors for their views, we're talking about guests who were disinvited because students didn't want them around. Like, they're just guests. They can just speak wherever. All speaking at a university would achieve for them is the prestige that saying "I was invited to speak at a university" carries with it, and they know it, and that's why they do it, and that's why others don't want them to have it if they don't like them. It's not the end of the world for anyone. Not being platformed here and there happens to everyone all the time, and for much more significant issues than this shit, but it's only a very particular group of people that constantly make a big stink about it, evidently even if they get their way after all ("coincidentally" these same people also seem to have a massive spotlight in their faces and a thousand other places where they can and do find platforms). The persecution complex has no end.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Jordan Peterson... thoughts?
« on: November 26, 2020, 01:56:43 PM »
It's very curious how angry you are at employees not supporting publishing Peterson's book.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Jordan Peterson... thoughts?
« on: November 26, 2020, 08:52:01 AM »
I feel like you are pretending not to understand what I posted. Perhaps I could have been more precise, but this is a conversation and I'm just a regular person.

I don't want to ban anyone. I don't want corporate censorship to be based on whatever is considered woke at the moment. The Woody Allens of the world can always find another publisher, but most people aren't that lucky.
Most people aren't lucky enough to get any publisher whatsoever anyways lol, do you think anyone can just go to Hachette and say "pls publish my stuff"? If anything it is way easier now to publish something. Heck, you can even just dump it on the Internet as a last resort.

It's like people who desperately want to be persecuted somehow only now discovered that publishers can chose what they publish and they won't just publish whatever you give them, and they may chose not to for millions of reasons. It's such a tired trope at this point, idk how some people still fall for it.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Jordan Peterson... thoughts?
« on: November 26, 2020, 08:45:30 AM »
The only one I'm aware that they were successful is Woody Allen's memoir (I don't know if that was this year).
Which you can buy to read in three different formats on Amazon or listen to the audio book on Audible.  It was also reviewed everywhere.

It seems banned books have never been so freely available to read!  It's not like the old days.

That is not the point. I didn't say his book was never published, only that the tactics worked. Hachette declined to publish his book after employees protested.
OK but why does that matter? Shouldn't employees of a publishing house be entitled to have a say in what gets published? Their bosses already do. It's not like anyone can just walk up to a publisher and give them something to publish and then boom, they do it. Allen is a sex creep, I understand someone not wanting to publish his stuff.

"Handing over the censorship to the companies" is what already happens by default.

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One time I managed to circumvent the ransomware with a simple Windows Restore

This was before bitcoin and all they did was 'pretend' that your files were locked for your 'safety' and to pay them ~$60 for a special 'program' that could get rid of the 'virus'

Just restored to a time before that day and all was right again


Well I'm afraid that won't work here...

I handed it over to the techs. I hope they manage to do something. It's not a life and death issue, but it sucks having to lose your files and re-download all the apps.

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How many btcs do they ask for? How/where did you get the virus? Cloud storage shouldnt be an issue right?

Also thx for the reminder that I have to update my backups.
It didn't even say how much they asked for. I just said I should contact them, and gave me instructions about how to buy bitcoin. I imagine they'd give me a price if I contacted them. I got the virus on piratebay, probably.
Oh, I use piratebay, too. Which kind of file?

I *think* it was Fritz chess that did me dirty. Although it might have been something else. I didn't, like, notice anything until like 2-3 days after I downloaded it. So I can't be sure if that's actually where I got it from, but I think that's the one, because that is the only suspicious thing I got recently.

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It didn't even say how much they asked for. I just said I should contact them, and gave me instructions about how to buy bitcoin. I imagine they'd give me a price if I contacted them. I got the virus on piratebay, probably.


Your whole enterprise got attacked? 
You have no reprisal?

Don't you go to university?

Do you have no idea how to manage your life?


Backups.


It's free.
Seriously, just sign up.



You have no excuse.
Is everything OK?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Jordan Peterson... thoughts?
« on: November 26, 2020, 05:35:09 AM »
That book cover is... very weird. So many strange decisions.

Graphic design is my passion.

Graphic design was my entire career.
I don't care what you think.

You just see shit.

I tell you how to feel.     




Show some pro art . . . . . . .










take you're  time  .  .  .  .












.

Graphic design is my passion is a common phrase to mock terrible graphic design by people who don't know what they're doing.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.knowyourmeme.com/memes/graphic-design-is-my-passion
https://www.quora.com/What-does-it-mean-if-someone-says-graphic-design-is-my-passion

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Jordan Peterson... thoughts?
« on: November 26, 2020, 05:22:42 AM »
Yeah, like, banning something used to mean something being made illegal to sell or publish or arresting people for reading it/owning it/whatever, but now apparently it means someone saying "I don't want the company I work for to print this trash" and then their company doing a shitty publicity stunt by setting up a bullshit "town hall" and taking advantage of them to promote said trash.

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How many btcs do they ask for? How/where did you get the virus? Cloud storage shouldnt be an issue right?

Also thx for the reminder that I have to update my backups.
It didn't even say how much they asked for. I just said I should contact them, and gave me instructions about how to buy bitcoin. I imagine they'd give me a price if I contacted them. I got the virus on piratebay, probably.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Jordan Peterson... thoughts?
« on: November 26, 2020, 02:28:43 AM »
That book cover is... very weird. So many strange decisions.
Graphic design is my passion.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Jordan Peterson... thoughts?
« on: November 26, 2020, 02:26:00 AM »
I think it's super weird that they want to ban books, this used to be a thing the conservative Christians tried to do.

What you posted was people working at Penguin not wanting to publish the book. Not wanting to publish and banning a book is very, very different. It's such a tired tactic at this point for them to pretend to be persecuted because people don't want to publish them or whatever.

This happens all the time with controversial authors in publishing houses. It's just that now it is publicized because playing victim is JP's whole shtick, and the publisher saw dollar signs. The town hall thing is so transparent lol

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Jordan Peterson... thoughts?
« on: November 25, 2020, 03:11:38 PM »
His new book is #1 in the philosophy of ethics & morality category, and #6 in all books on Amazon right now.

Cry some more, crybullies!
I mean, he's Jordan Peterson, he has a massive following, of course this would happen lol

Although it is super weird they are buying a self help book from someone who really needs help. But garbage books sell more, so eh.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Jordan Peterson... thoughts?
« on: November 25, 2020, 10:56:12 AM »
I recall one of his kids was in some kind of situation that prompted him to get on antidepressants or something.  I guess he got hooked on it.  Understandable but very much against his brand.
Ι've paid attention to the Jordan Peterson saga. It's weirder than that.

One thing that may have caused him grief was his wife's trial with cancer, but I'm not sure if he was already taking benzos before that. But his daughter is batshit crazy, she got him and her mother too on some weird ass diet that consists of nothing but meat, salt and I guess some bread every now and then. She even released books like this one: https://www.amazon.com/Jordan-Mikhaila-Peterson-Depression-Transcripts/dp/946398061X

Yes, that's a real book with a real cover.

By the way, she married a weird Russian Stalin lover who believes he is possessed by a demon called Igor who now manages JP's brand (no, I am not making this up, plus he looks normal in comparison) and had a kid with him and then she almost immediately dumped him. I think it was around that time that JP ended up in the weird Moscow clinic in medically induced coma for some fucking reason. Then his daughter started dating Andrew Tate, who is basically a kickboxing champion/camgirl pimp/abuser who managed to get kicked from Big Brother (and is ALSO completely insane, just check his twitter: https://twitter.com/OfWudan). I guess he was too insane even for her because it didn't last very long, because eventually she got back to her slightly less insane husband, and then JP got out of the crank clinic. So all was well. Until they got COVID. I'm almost convinced Zizek hexxed him with some kind of ancient Slovenian curse.

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Ouch.  That sucks.

If you have backups of everything vital, reformat the drive and reinstall. No safe way to come back from that in my opinion, you can never be sure you got it all.

If you pay, it's 50/50 they will just demand even more money from you.
Yeah no way I am paying. I don't have backups. I don't have anything that is too vital in this computer, but I do have many somewhat important things. I really hope this can be resolved.

I don't mean this to pour salt in the wound, just curious - Why no back-ups?
Relatively new computer, not enough super important stuff to care enough about making backups.

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Ouch.  That sucks.

If you have backups of everything vital, reformat the drive and reinstall. No safe way to come back from that in my opinion, you can never be sure you got it all.

If you pay, it's 50/50 they will just demand even more money from you.
Yeah no way I am paying. I don't have backups. I don't have anything that is too vital in this computer, but I do have many somewhat important things. I really hope this can be resolved.

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Well, I fucked up. I got Ransomware on my computer. It's encrypted my files, and there's a message telling me I should pay them Bitcoin or whatever. Pretty fucked. Nothing works properly.

Apparently it is some kind of BORISHORSE style virus. I installed the free version of SpyHunter, it seems to have found SOMETHING, but I don't know how to tell if it's what is causing the trouble. Even worse, I have to buy it to do the removal, or wait 48 hours until they activate a limited version or something. It's pretty fucked.

Even worse, I think even if the virus is removed, my files will still be encrypted, and I'm not sure if there is appropriate software to decrypt it.

Does anyone have any idea what to do?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: The Great Reset
« on: November 20, 2020, 07:47:58 AM »
But it's not any particular thing, either stimulus or a conspiracy because the "Great Reset" is not anything in particular. It's just "we should use the opportunity to make some changes in the economy". This means different things to different people. The vid WEF posted was a prediction, not an idea to implement, and imo a dumb prediction, like the many other dumb predictions they have platformed every now and then, but yuppies love that shit.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: The Great Reset
« on: November 20, 2020, 07:35:35 AM »
This is the weirdest one I've read so far, and it's from 2016. https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2016/11/shopping-i-can-t-really-remember-what-that-is/  I guess this idea has been around for a long time, and COVID is giving it life.  I read something that says International Monetary Fund is investing a trillion dollars in this idea, but I can't find confirmation of that.
This explains my friend's mom's FB post complaining about the IMF and how they are doing something evil.
The IMF is doing many evil things but this is not one of them because they aren't doing anything about it lol

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Arts & Entertainment / Re: Why are Hollywood movies so crap?
« on: November 18, 2020, 11:11:09 AM »

    Overcoming the Monster.
    Rags to Riches.
    The Quest.
    Voyage and Return.
    Comedy.
    Tragedy.
    Rebirth.

It is the The Seven Basic Plots

That's just one guy's theory and so what anyway?  There are only 3 basics colours, but they can be combined into and infinite variety.  Like stories.
It's not even that really. Like, you could do the same with 5 stories. Or 3 stories. As long as you stretch your definitions enough. If someone believes in the 7 basic plots theory they can just move the goalposts every time you come up with something that doesn't fit the mold, it's kinda silly.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: The Great Reset
« on: November 18, 2020, 02:18:48 AM »
Well it's not uncommon for WEF to discuss nonsense that never comes to anything. Btw the website is just buzzwords without much that is specific, and stock footage without context. I'm pretty sure what they call "Great Reset" is just a name for what should be done to get the economy back on its feet after the pandemic, not a specific idea. Also about "communism": they cite Netanyahu and Milton Freedman, and all the people advocating for... whatever this is even supposed to be are right wing. This is just yet another techbro yuppie utopia and no one should care.

Also the IMF investing a trillion dollars in the idea? Lol no. I found where the claim seems to come from: https://www.imf.org/en/News/Articles/2020/06/03/sp060320-remarks-to-world-economic-forum-the-great-reset

Again, buzzwords about how when Covid ends, it should be a "Great Reset" instead of "Great Reversal" so that now it's better and more fair. It says this:

Quote
We can avoid this if we concentrate on investing in people—in the social fabric of our societies, in access to opportunities, in education for all, and in the expansion of social programs so we take care of the most vulnerable people. Then we can have a world that is better for everyone.

Which is just what the IMF has been saying for a really long time, while forcing countries to defund said social programs. The trillion dollar quote is this:

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So, now is the moment to step up—and use all the strength we have—to turn the page. In the case of the IMF we have a one trillion-dollar financial capacity and tremendous engagement on the policy side.

This just says "we're gonna be in this effort to do... uh... things and we are strong enough to do it!". It doesn't say "we're investing a trillion dollars into some dumb techbro utopia" because it is not what they are doing. It just seems like Americans and Brits just took buzzwords aimed at a north European audience at face value and got spooked for no reason.

At its core, the discussion about a "Great Reset" is just a fancy way to describe giving the people some stimulus so that they don't wreck shit during the coming recession, and such that the economy can bounce back. Which is why they mention the Beveridge report.

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Technology, Science & Alt Science / Re: SHOULD I BUY BITCOINS?
« on: November 11, 2020, 06:11:10 AM »
I remember some dipshit who was posting here the last time Bitcoin went really big and he insisted that it's never gonna drop and that the upwards climb is gonna last forever until people started using Bitcoin on the regular.

That went well. I sometimes wonder how much he lost when it did take a dump. That, or maybe he was intentionally bullshitting.

Well it wasn't me. I made btc prediction in this or another thread; I used to be correct.

Was it as correct as your covid CFR predictions?
No, way more. Also my cfr was correct if it hadnt been based on flawed data.
LOL it was completely wrong. Your model (all 30 of them that you went through) was supposed to take into account the flaws, that was the whole point of making it so complex. I told you to just look at the CFR in places that tested a lot and had also already managed to curb the growth, but you didn't like it. I told you looking at closed cases was misleading, you disagreed. You stuck to your >10% CFR lmao. You made a prediction and it was completely wrong, for factors that you should have foreseen. Too bad you are too mad to admit it!

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Technology, Science & Alt Science / Re: SHOULD I BUY BITCOINS?
« on: November 10, 2020, 01:48:41 PM »
I remember some dipshit who was posting here the last time Bitcoin went really big and he insisted that it's never gonna drop and that the upwards climb is gonna last forever until people started using Bitcoin on the regular.

That went well. I sometimes wonder how much he lost when it did take a dump. That, or maybe he was intentionally bullshitting.

Well it wasn't me. I made btc prediction in this or another thread; I used to be correct.

Was it as correct as your covid CFR predictions?

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