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Atmospheric distortions. Turn your toaster to max, and then look just above it from a distance. You should see the same effect. (Unless your house is too hot.) Also, there is vacuum, but only beyond the atmosphere.What is the "clear fluid effect"?
A clear example of observation through a fluid. You can see the ripples.
Please post your opinion on what I do for a living in the correct thread, weirdo PM-sending stalker chtwrone.What's with your stanisim obsession? Almost every single one of your posts contains "Satan" for no good reason.
Everyone else:
As you may recall, with embarrassment, I began my contributions to this thread by asking if any of you had actually been to 'space', thus giving you unambiguous, empirical, first-hand evidence of what it is like.
&, of course, none of you had.
Now, I would like to inquire as to what this 'space' we are all talking about actually is.
So; where is the word 'space', in its modern astronomical sense, first mentioned in the English language?
I will tell you; it is in John Milton's epic poem 'Paradise Lost'.
& which character in Paradise Lost first utters this word?
I will tell you; it is Satan.
I quote: 'Space may produce new worlds: whereof so rife there went a fame in heaven that he ere long intended to create, and therein plant a generation, whom his choice regard should favour equal to the sons of heaven: Thither, if but to pry, shall be perhaps our first eruption...'
Thus; not only is 'space' an undeniably Satanic invention, so is the concept of 'space exploration'.
LOL!!!
You Cultists REALLY hate this subject, don't you?
Thx for pointing out the ridiculous Legba. Pluto's face on Pluto, give me a break. In your face sci-fi fans.
I'm basically retired. I like to say semi retired as I like to keep my input and hand in whenever I feel the need. Oh and I was into innovation.All I see here and smell is a severe stench of desperation and a view of utter panic to keep this utter utter bullshit alive for those who are gullible enough to believe that metal boxes and tin cans can simple float around the Earth in exact position to a piece of it, always.
A helicopter following a moving truck would have issues with keeping exact track with it, but tehse tin can pieces of fantasy shite can keep track with a 1000 mph spinning Earth, apparently.
I'm now rolling on the floor laughing my arse right off.
Launch it in the direction of rotation, get it up to speed, let it go. Add some boosters for course corrections.
Damn you would make a terrible rocket scientist. What's your day job? Cube farm?
You see, I used my brain to invent things that actually have a purpose in the physical world.
What I don't do is invent something that people cannot physically see working and tell them it does this and that.
Basically I don't invent fantasies like satellites in space and tell people that they allow easy communication over a ball when ground based inventions that physically work are already in existence.
It's akin to me inventing a torch and then pretending to invent a space torch that people cannot touch but can see paintings of, as well as looking up into the sky to see my torches whizzing about here and there.
Don't argue about my space torches. They're there and you only have to look with your naked eyes on a clear night.
Am I lying about my torches in space?
I don't subscribe to this light =sound model, but why would you hear light if it came from sound, Pavarotti? In this model, it is no longer sound, it is now light. Seems to me that you are so eager to prove this wrong that you quit using your brain cells and just let your fingers type,whatever they want to.Pavarottis wording might be confusing, but I think he is talking about how scepti never demonstrated any relation and/or conversion between light and sound. In reality light and sound are not related whatsoever as one is made up of photons while the other one is essentially just vibration of atoms.
Why is a far fetched idea that makes any explanation of planets, stars and the creation of the earth impossible more likely to be true than gravity? What's so wrong about impossible about gravity?Yeah you're right. This gravity keeps space travel alive. In fact it keeps space alive in how they tell us. It's a brilliant con but a con none-the-less, as you know, I know and a good few other's on here know.If people really took some time to see what's really happening, they would understand how everything works.
The major problem people have is in sticking rigidly to a force?? known as gravity that cannot be figured out by the science world, yet it not only held onto, it even has equations that match this unknown thing.
Don;t you think those equations are maybe tweaked to match a reality?
The reality is clear. It's denpressure. I'm not asking people to accept it. I'm simply asking people to look at reality instead of the fiction given to them.
No matter how you look at it all; PUSH against PUSH is what is happening on every moving thing.
The reality is looking at it two ways. A push on push or a push on resistance, in which case a resistance is a PUSH back.
Whatever or whoever pushes first creates a resistance to that push by whatever uses energy to create that barrier. It's why I used the people in the queue scenario to show how it all works. It seems to have went over people's heads.
I fully understand that those who are here to reject anything that goes against the grain will naturally allow it all to go over their heads because their goal is not to under stand it Their goal is to nullify it by all means necessary.
This is for those that have a mind to want to learn the truth or the potential truth, against what can clearly be seen as a lifetime of lies or mis-info fed to us all from a very early age.
We are in a world of squeezing. We are all under pressure and part of putting other things under pressure. It's necessary to keep us alive because the minute we stop squeezing/pushing/resisting, we cease to exist as a life form and from that point on will be broken down because we lose the energy to resist pressure.
Just one or two people who can actually see it all or the potential of it all to actually take it forward would be fantastic, because the more people that grasp the very basics of this, the sooner they will realise that they are imprisoned in a comfortable self preserving cell that needs no outside influence by any means for its survival of the survival of the energetic matter within it.
It seems that I'm one of the few who kinda understands your message and can accept it. I don't see why it is so hard. Gravity is no big deal. You can throw something up and it comes back down, call it gravity if you want. The problem came in when science shoved space travel down our throats and we all bought into it because it's cool.
Poko: stop trying to fudge; the gun is Object A; the bullet is Object B; the propellant sits between them.
When the propellant is ignited, it creates an interaction between Objects A & B, thus propelling Object B (the lesser of the 2 masses) out of the barrel.
But a rocket does NOT fire bullets.
So; to be analogous with a rocket, you must remove the bullet, Object B, from the equation, leaving only the gun, Object A, & the propellant, which now represents the exhaust of the rocket.
What other mass, then, will replace Object B in order to create an action/reaction pairing - as explicitly demanded by Newton 3 - & produce thrust, Helen Keller?
Answering this question with another question, as conker has just done, will not suffice.
Also, his referring to 'nuclear rockets' as if they are things that actually exist does not help his case.
But, as you are all hopelessly mired in a science-fiction fantasy world already, where words outrank reality & numbers outrank even words, it is not surprising.
Crabby that post should be embarassing to you, you should just delete it. Grabbing at straws, off topic, it reaks of desperation.Well, your posts have no content whatsoever. You just butt into conversations to throw personal attacks at round earthers.
You are a fool. How can that dome be on experiment on how people behave in an enclosed space if almost nobody out of seven billion people is aware of it and ALL currently known human settlements are inside of it? Your theories are just half-assed claims.Mike Mazzone, can you describe the dome for us? What is it made of? Is it a perfect half-sphere? If not, what shape is it? How long ago was it built? Who built it (be more specific than "our ancestors")? Why did they build it? Most importantly, how do you know that this dome exists?I would certainly like to know more specifics about the architects of the dome and their intents, and those records are probably still available outside the dome. I know the dome exists because Byrd let America to the wall in Antarctica, and America and Russia have been studying the wall for decades now with their "space programs".
The dome was probably build as an experiment to see how people behave inside an enclosed environment. We even have mini biodomes here inside the big dome for the same research purposes. Pauly Shore hit the peak of his career pretty much with the Biodome movie, which was pretty entertaining in itself. We're probably all unaware actors in a Truman Show show film for the entertainment and research purposes of those outside the dome.
We don't have all the information yet, just some clues. We probably figured it out before, but measures were taking to keep us from climbing out of the dome, like giving us different languages.
See it's like yoda said, you guys got nothing but ad hominems. The detailed rendering of the flat earth is from 15-30 seconds into the video, with yoda's great narration in place in the background.
Insulting jokes are the least creative of jokes. Plus, stop calling people humans as a insult. Not only is it /extremely/ ironic, but it also makes you sound like one of those people who believe they are some sort of animal or alien stuck in a humans body.Everytime someone makes a fat joke, it insults thousands of dead fat people. So, should we all refrain from humor, because it could potentially upset a dead person?
I thought military meant "strong", not "overly sensitive."
So it's OK to insult dead people as long as they died defending our freedom...
... OK.
The joke had nothing to do with "dying" or "death". Hospital people defend people's lives. Hospital people die.
Now, it must be taboo to make jokes about hospital scrubs, because hospital scrubs defend people's lives, and some die.
Silly human. So sensitive. So ludicrous.
So wait, why can't we go to space again? Does the universe accelerate more the higher we go or something? It does not look like space travel is impossible and seeing that so many FE's say that NASA and all other space agencies are all lying companies to "brainwash" us. However it is never said why space travel is impossible.Flat Earthers think that space travel is impossible because they have only seen dumbed down or unexplained references to space and space travel in mainstream media, so they obviously think it's impossible as they never research further due to the prejudice they have gained from mainstream media, and therefore never received any explanations.
So in your opinion weight does not exist? How come two different objects with the same size and shape can accelerate at different speeds when falling?Weight is a man made measurement that is shown to us by sight on a scale. That's all weight is. It's not a case of filling up a cylinder and expecting it to weigh more on a scale. You're just making shit up because you have no clue what you're talking about.You know the whole pressure is gravity thing? More pressure would be more weight and less pressure would be less weight, which you have claimed. But you of course could never explain why objects under more pressure don't weight more. Just another reason why denpressure fails.Here is a video showing how they refill a propane tank. They go by weight of liquid propane. Set one of those out in the sun and the pressure can easily double. Yet no one has ever noticed the tank get twice as heavy. How do you explain that?Why would the tank get twice as heavy?
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You see, you haven't been taking notice and go into tit mode. This is why I always bypass your posts, because You pretend you're some scientist then show yourself up to be a total dunter.
The silly part is, you will keep on doing it then running away shouting, "I won I won." You're a full on dunter.
I'm sure astronomers would be even more interested in seeing views of those star-fields taken from 2 cameras onboard a space probe, too, Rayzor/Evil Edna/Psyopticon/Etc...There is no reason to save these images as they are scientifically useless and probably high resulution.
Gives em a different perspective, you know?
Which you are perfectly aware of; but being a well-renowned total Troll-entity, you just want to shit-post instead.
Well done!
&, as ever, LOL!!!
You still have not replied to my post about tidally locked exoplanets.Actually, only if the Earth stopped spinning would everything fly off.Another ludicrous claim from the Round Earthers.
We feel no acceleration from the earth spinning, but if it stopped that would change.
He claims that merry go rounds have a magical inertia, that is dependent on acceleration.
Um no. Objects on a merry go round dont magically stay in a curve, magically secured in place by an unchanging rotational velocity of the merry go round.
Do you guys even understand basic physics?
Or are you going to nitpick about how I didnt add the mass component to equations you dont understand.
Nothing about my maths were wrong.
The more I think about it, the more absurd Round Earth sounds.That is exactly what I believe is occuring.Just to make things clear Im giving Science a much needed makeover.What're'ya gonna do, stick some glittery stars on it?
The centrifugal, or centripedal force, whatever you want to call it, has a speed component of 1664 mph.
Round earthers, want us to believe, that because the Earth is in orbit, things, such as humans and objects, should magically stay in place, because of the gravity of the sun.
This is an absurd notion, because if the gravity of the sun did in fact hold humans in place, in orbit around the sun, they would be subjected to a tensor force of 1664 mph*times their mass.
1664 mph. And I thought circus rides were bad.
Imagine your self on a rock, with a child 92 million miles away, swinging you at a speed of 41,600 mph. And yet, magically, you feel no unpleasant force at all. And that is exactly what Round Earthers want you to believe.
I already explained to them, that such a scenario would result in 1664 mph of centrifugal force, or fling force, or require a force equivalent to the speed of 1664 mph. Since they continue to nitpick my wording, I will change the word "force" to "velocity component" for their simple minds.
Unfortunately, Round Earthers dont seem to grasp their own absurdity.
Quayle instead of posting links from wikipedia that you don't understand why not just give us how you think it happened, you guys love extracting theories from people who don't fully understand it themselves so you can quote little bits that make them look stupid, now return the favour.i am not asking for links or reasons why that bit of the theory is not important i just want to hear the theory of everything coming from nothing which your theory of a ball in space relies on. cough up!You can't spell my name right and think I don't understand SIMPLFIED Wikipedia articles. I will now step out of this argument and not reply to you anymore because I give up on your stupidity.
Rayzor, the beginning of any story is a pretty crucial part and to dismiss it as not relevant when it sets the premise/ context for the story as whole is as good as saying my story makes sense if you don't ask me about the bits that make no sense, and the pre big bang story is the premise needed for the globe earth floating in space to work, if the globe earth was formed from debris left over from the big bang floating in space, my question is where did the debris floating in space (that the globe earth is made from) come from and how was it made. simple question if you don't know and your saying god didn't do it then you must at least have a theory so lets hear it then.The theory is too complex to just write out on a forum. So let's have some links.
Centrifugal force, or "fling force" on Earth would be 1664 mph.A centripetal force (from Latin centrum "center" and petere "to seek"[1]) is a force that makes a body follow a curved path.Enough with the red herrings. My fashion sense should not be part of the discussion. Focus on the equations.
A man being flung is not quite accurate. What I mean is there would be a force of momentum equivalent to 1664 mph propelling him away from the planet.
He would actually be flung slower than 1664 mph, due to atmospheric friction, and slightly slowed by gravity.
What is "a force of momentum"? Momentum and force are different things. Do you know how to calculate centripetal force?
There is no such thing in Nature. Perhaps what you are talking about is the Sun's gravity.
I call this "orbit force".
Let's pretend, for the sake of argument, that round earth is real, and it orbits around the sun.
A man, in orbit around the sun the same as Earth orbit, would experience a Gforce equivalent to 1664 miles per hour.
Tie a rock to a piece of string and whizz it around your head, centripetal force is the force required to accelerate the rock to move in a circle. Whenever you have acceleration you have force F=ma.
Good job again. Forcing a rock to be constrained to the string, would cause a phenonomenon known as GForce to occur. GForce exerts a measurable force on the rock. In your case, the force on your rock is of only a few miles per hour.
If, say, you forced a human to be constrained to the hypothetical round Earth, and its orbit, it would exert a GForce of 1664 miles per hour.
Earth, with its water, could not withstand such a force.
However, gaseous bodies, or dense rock planets with no life and water, or only ice, surely could withstand high Gforce.
I omitted the mass component of force because it is irrelevant.
If I added it to my Gforce value, the force would be 166400.
Why haven't you used the formula to calculate centrifugal force yet? Is it that you do not know how to use the formula or that the answer does not serve your purpose?
This is why Round Earth is false.
Imagine Round Earth, is like a rock on a string, being swung around by a child.
Gravity, is that string, holding it in orbit, around the child, the Sun.
Anything on the rock, the Earth's surface, would fly away at 1664 mph.
Do you honestly expect anyone to believe that we are on rock, withstanding a fling force of 1664 mph?
It's spelled g-force and is measured in g. A g is the force of the earths gravity acting upon something on its surface, and not some imaginary unit.A centripetal force (from Latin centrum "center" and petere "to seek"[1]) is a force that makes a body follow a curved path.Enough with the red herrings. My fashion sense should not be part of the discussion. Focus on the equations.
A man being flung is not quite accurate. What I mean is there would be a force of momentum equivalent to 1664 mph propelling him away from the planet.
He would actually be flung slower than 1664 mph, due to atmospheric friction, and slightly slowed by gravity.
What is "a force of momentum"? Momentum and force are different things. Do you know how to calculate centripetal force?
There is no such thing in Nature. Perhaps what you are talking about is the Sun's gravity.
I call this "orbit force".
Let's pretend, for the sake of argument, that round earth is real, and it orbits around the sun.
A man, in orbit around the sun the same as Earth orbit, would experience a Gforce equivalent to 1664 miles per hour.
Tie a rock to a piece of string and whizz it around your head, centripetal force is the force required to accelerate the rock to move in a circle. Whenever you have acceleration you have force F=ma.
Good job again. Forcing a rock to be constrained to the string, would cause a phenonomenon known as GForce to occur. GForce exerts a measurable force on the rock. In your case, the force on your rock is of only a few miles per hour.
If, say, you forced a human to be constrained to the hypothetical round Earth, and its orbit, it would exert a GForce of 1664 miles per hour.
Earth, with its water, could not withstand such a force.
However, gaseous bodies, or dense rock planets with no life and water, or only ice, surely could withstand high Gforce.
I omitted the mass component of force because it is irrelevant.
If I added it to my Gforce value, the force would be 166400.
The NSA has the most data on earth as it has its own spying organizations and also draws data from large companies like Google, Facebook and Twitter.What does google have to do with a non-existent porn conspiracy strawman. Google has more data than the FBI. Wake up, man.So you basically just think that everyone but flat earthers are in on a giant conspiracy that wastes money and has no reason to exit?Did you not read anything I just said? Theres no "going up there" at all. Just 3.4 million dollars worth of special fx.3.4 million will easily cover the cost of the fake photoshop HD CGI effects they use for the footage. For only 3.4 million, they will be celebrated as pioneers and heroes, swooned by all. What more could a fraud ask for?How are they going to fake zero-g and the flight up there if you are so great, arrogant and wise?
Not unless you believe everyone is an an astronaut.
The only people in the conspiracy are some NASA execs, pilots, a couple of engineers, government agents, and the people in charge of Google Earth, as well as a couple military guys.
Google is already a known conspiracy, are you blind?
And porn is also a conspiracy, right?
/sarcasm
You never heard of NSA, or Edward Snowden have you?
Centripedal force plays no part in this. Men, are not physically connected to the earth's surface. Centripedal force is a fantasy. Objects do not magically follow a curved trajectory. The only time an object obeys centripetal forces is if it is connected to itself, a solid object.
A man, on earth, would not magically follow a curved trajectory, simply because earth is on a curved trajectory.
My oh my how the clowns of science have deluded ye.
We are connected to the earth, and yes you do need to understand why that's important. I'm surprised you haven't noticed you are connected to the earth. BTW. It's centripetal not centripedal.
Last time I checked, our feet are not connected to the earth's surface. Nice strawman correcting insignificant typos.
Same reason the Illuminati does anything. For its entertainment.
They are laughing at you right now, you Round Earth fools.
Same reason the Illuminati made the world believe in Einstein, even though his Special Relativity was rubbish.
So he could build them bombs.
They want you to believe in a round earth, to drive a wedge between the Europe, Russia and the Americas. Round earthers are less united. They are not all on the same plane. And so far, its working. Russia and America's cold wars. Europeans disdain for Americas on Youtube. The list goes on.
Centripedal force plays no part in this. Men, are not physically connected to the earth's surface. Centripedal force is a fantasy. Objects do not magically follow a curved trajectory. The only time an object obeys centripetal forces is if it is connected to itself, a solid object.
A man, on earth, would not magically follow a curved trajectory, simply because earth is on a curved trajectory.
My oh my how the clowns of science have deluded ye.
So you basically just think that everyone but flat earthers are in on a giant conspiracy that wastes money and has no reason to exit?Did you not read anything I just said? Theres no "going up there" at all. Just 3.4 million dollars worth of special fx.3.4 million will easily cover the cost of the fake photoshop HD CGI effects they use for the footage. For only 3.4 million, they will be celebrated as pioneers and heroes, swooned by all. What more could a fraud ask for?How are they going to fake zero-g and the flight up there if you are so great, arrogant and wise?
Here are your equations.What do you mean with "a man would be flung?". Plus, your avatar is starting to annoy me.
I wonder who has the brain defect, you or me?
Help me decide.
We told you many times. You are trying to disprove the round earth model but you are asking for calculations and theories made by flat earthers and ignoring the rest. See what you are doing wrong?Googling the Earth's moment of inertia would just give me results made by deluded round earthers.Nay, it is you two who do not understand.
Concering the topic of 41,600 mph, the earths size is irrelevant.
41,600 is the angular momentum of the earth's orbit.
Tell me again, why the size surface you are on matters for this?
Tell me again, about how your equations of gravity can hold a man in place, at 41,600 mph.
Of course, the absurdtist, calls me a troll, as a last resort.
Did you forget what I taught you about angular inertia?
It doesnt exist!
The a man, on 'round earth' would have a momentum of 41,600 mph. This is not linear, but angular.
HE would not simply "get used to it", as this is angular, not linear, velocity.
Call me a troll please, it gives you more credibility.
That's pretty funny you obviously don't even know what angular momentum is. And yes you are a troll. You ignore answers and just provocatively repeat inane assertions
Oh, while we are at it, what's the earth's moment of inertia?
I defined angular momentum to you. Does my definition of angular momentum not align with your round earth definition?
How bout this, in terms you can understand. Earth orbit go spin. Earth move in curve. Curve go 41,600 mph.
Now, enough with your pithy semantics, and pedantic psychobabble.
Please tell us how a man, only 2 meters in length, can withstand a curve, curving at 41,600 mph.
Please tell me how gravity makes this man stay on Earth. Yes, yes, gravity.
