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Once again space x have conducted a launch and landing attempt at LZ1.  This time in good weather and in daylight. Some of the best footage yet. Including close ups of the last moments of landing as well as long shots encompassing many if the key manoeuvres through out the mission. I'm sure it won't make a blind bit of difference to some but here it is anyway


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Flat Earth General / Why are some falcon 9s disposable.
« on: May 01, 2017, 01:42:24 AM »
Nice little video that explains why space x sometimes cannot recover the 1st stsge. 


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Flat Earth General / Space X Jcsat-16.
« on: August 14, 2016, 01:13:28 AM »
Another beautiful launch and successful landing by space X. The 7th successful landing now I belive.


How's this socioty experiments going?😂

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Flat Earth General / Blue origin
« on: June 19, 2016, 03:33:55 AM »
Live broadcast of the blue origin reusable suborbital spacecraft today. Should be fun to watch. These things happening a couple of times a month now. Must be getting quite expensive for the conspirators.

https://www.blueorigin.com/

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Suggestions & Concerns / Hewia
« on: June 09, 2016, 03:05:00 PM »
Are hewia's constant requests to leave this site are visit his against any of the forum rules?

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Flat Earth General / Laser level.
« on: June 05, 2016, 05:10:37 AM »
Just watched a program on national geographic. Genius by Stephen hawking. 

He had a group of volunteers use a laser to show curvature of the earth.  They used a laser and fired it across the lake. They took a measurement at 500feet using a boat and a white board. Then went 3 miles out. The laser light spot was now 6 feet above the original spot.

What is causing this if not curvature?

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Flat Earth General / Space x barge
« on: May 11, 2016, 10:40:07 AM »
With landing the falcon 9 1st stage now on the verge of becoming routine this brings a lot of questions that need answering by the flat earth socioty. Namely where are the fake falcon 9 first stages built? And where are they loaded onto the barge?

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Flat Earth General / Starshot
« on: April 12, 2016, 12:32:18 PM »
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/starshot-project-stephen-hawking-and-mark-zuckerberg-to-send-tiny-rockets-to-alpha-centauri-in-most-a6981101.html 

Massive announcement in the real world today. A group of scientists and businessmen will begin a joint project to build a spacecraft that can travel 20% the speed of light and reach alpha centuri in around 20 years after launch. I won't re spout the details as it's all in ther many articles all over the Internet. Just wanted to put this in comparison the the FErs efforts to not even hobble together enough to build a balloon to show the shape of the earth.

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Flat Earth General / weather radar
« on: June 28, 2015, 01:01:34 PM »
This post is in response to seceptic mainly and his assertion that rocket launches are scale models

http://thevane.gawker.com/weather-radar-detects-spacex-rocket-falling-into-ocean-1714522797

Weather radar data of the space x debris cloud picked up by local radar stations after disintegration. Not quite sure how a scale model can cet that fat away from the coast in the time requierd from launch.

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Flat Earth General / Kirkwood gap
« on: June 06, 2015, 04:19:10 AM »
How does FET or one of its MANY sub theories explain the kirkwood gaps in the main asteroid belt?
 The Conventional theory backed up by orbital mechanics shows this the be because of orbital resonance with Jupiter.

So what would be a FE expliration?

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Flat Earth General / flat earth frauds.
« on: August 27, 2014, 09:41:29 AM »
http://io9.com/a-historic-experiment-shows-why-we-might-not-want-to-de-1627339811

A good article showing how Samuel Rowbotham was wrong and how he and his accomplice John Hampden was so desperate to be right that they deny evidence right in front of them.

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Flat Earth Debate / Apollo 11 decent cam comparison with lunar features
« on: August 23, 2014, 01:21:09 PM »
Apollo 11 - the Eagle has landed: " class="bbc_link" target="_blank">

A interesting video of the decent cam superimposed next to lunar surface images that maps out landmarks as seen from the decent cam.

Just another insane detail a hoax would have needed to have gone into to fake the landing. 

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Flat Earth Debate / sky box imaging/iss live streaming
« on: December 30, 2013, 03:45:26 AM »
With ever more and better quality imaging of the earth from space denying the existence of satellites is becoming ever more untenable. sky box imaging has 1 and plans a further 23 satellites that will form a constellation of satellites able to cover the entire globe continuously with sub meter resolution live video and pictures. also the ISS has just had installed a live streaming HD camera which is currently being tested ready for free transmission over the internet.

how does FE Explain all this on a flat earth without satellites

http://www.skyboximaging.com/company
http://www.skyboximaging.com/products/pixels
http://www.urthecast.com/

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The Lounge / User hidden
« on: December 28, 2013, 04:00:08 PM »
Just a quick easy question. Why are some users hidden on the activity bar at the bottom of the main page?

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Flat Earth Q&A / Microwaves
« on: April 19, 2013, 05:04:15 AM »
This is a simple question in relation to bendy light. Do microwaves in FE land bend like you describe visible light bending?

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Flat Earth Q&A / Point 1 to Point 2
« on: April 04, 2013, 11:15:38 AM »
easy question. how in this map does a person travel from Point 1 to point 2 travailing in a straight line west along the equator?





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Flat Earth Debate / A whole new world
« on: March 15, 2013, 10:17:48 AM »
what is FEs stance on Exoplanets? their are various ways of detecting them

Radial velocity or Doppler method
Transit method
Transit Timing Variation
Gravitational microlensing
Astrometry
Pulsar timing
Circumstellar disks

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extrasolar_planet#Confirmed_discoveries




Three exoplanets orbiting a young star (HR 8799) 129 light years away are captured using Keck Observatory near-infrared adaptive optics.


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all of these techniques are used to varying degrees of success and now we have 861 confirmed exoplanets with  2,321 planetary candidates.

so what are they in FE? do they exist in FE or are astronomers actively lying (part of the conspiracy) to help further the "round earth agenda"

i say this because we are finding more and more as well as increasingly more earth size and smaller planets. we have even viewed  the composition of the atmosphere of the bigger of the planets by looking at the spectrum of light it reflects of its atmosphere.
 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2293674/How-discovery-water-carbon-monoxide-vapor-surrounding-alien-planet-hold-key-Earth-formed.html
http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2013/mar/14/astronomers-planet-water-vapour

so FE views on the subject would be much appreciated although do expect me to question discrepancies inconsistencies  and general bullshit spouted. 

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Flat Earth Debate / Doppler shift in satilite comunications
« on: March 03, 2013, 10:40:48 AM »
so in FE we are told that satellite communication between earth and satellites is in fact actually from ground based sources or the laughable stratillite theory (lol) but what this does not take into account is the everyday observation by ground stations amateur and professional alike of a pronounced Doppler shift that matches the relative speed between the ground station and the satellite passing over head. these shifts need to be taken into account to receive the signal correctly. remember that any amateur ham radio operator can listen in on unencrypted signals between a satellite and its operator including that off the ISS.

below are links to two websites describing the problem in more detail and ways in which amateur radio enthusiasts can over come them.

http://vkradio.com/doppler.html
http://www.argospress.com/Resources/satellite/doppleffect.htm



so if satellites are all fake and these signals are originating from ground stations or even Stratillites (lol) then what is causing the Doppler shift?

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Flat Earth General / 1st humans to visit mars.
« on: March 01, 2013, 04:00:59 AM »
im surprised this hasn't be brought up yet so im going to go for it.

Dennis Tito has founded a non profit organisation with the goal of using a rare planetary alignment to achieve the goal of sending to humans on a fly by of mars and return them again by 2018. by doing this they will become the 1st private company to achieve something in space a government agency is unable to as well as sending humans many times further from the earth than any has gone before.

no straight away im going to assume FErs will say well its all fake and will be filmed in a film studio with a green screen. BUT Dennis Tito is funding this project for 2 years entirety by himself. putting i believe 66 million dollars of his own money into the project. and hoping to secure private financing to the tune of 1 billion dollars through private sponsorship TV rights and access to any scientific data compiled. he also say they do not need any help from NASA or any other government organisation.



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http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn23215-first-private-mars-mission-aims-to-launch-in-2018.html?page=1

so my question is.

Dennis Tito has been to space in 2001 becoming the 1st tourist to do so. so if the earth is flat then by extension he must know space travel is a hoax.
so,why is he investing 66 million dollars of his own money into an event he knows is impossible. also how is he going to convince paying  private companies, each that are experts in the field they operate in, that he is pulling this of when in fact it will all be a hoax according to FE.

problems that will arise for it to be a hoax


Radio transmitions can be intercepted by anyone on earth who points a receiver to where the space craft is on its journey. ( the same could be done during Apollo)
scientific data will need to be falsified to a level where it can be used to convince the experts that its being sold to.
Doppler shift can be observed in radio transitions as the speed and direction of the craft changes in relation to the earth (sceptic wont understand relative speed)
i would assume a continual stream of footage will be broadcast from within the craft showing the crew during the journey so somehow they will need to replicate 0g for 501 day journey.
in our modern age of extreme HD video and highly advanced high mega pixel cameras all photographs will need to be insainly well faked probably tens if not hundreds of thousands of times and all match modern all ready reported pictures of the surface of mars.
actually build a craft capable of making the journey even though it wont because it will be the most interdependently scrutinized  piece of human engineering in the history of humanity.

this is just what i could think of in 5 minuets maby others could add to the list.

Edit * i would like to add as well be for an FEer does. i am well aware that this mission in not a certainty yet but even independent  experts admit that this is a technically quite achievable mission well within current and extreme near future technology.

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Flat Earth General / rent a satellite
« on: February 21, 2013, 07:18:59 PM »
http://www.wired.com/business/2013/02/nanosatisfi/

link to a website describing a company that will allow you to rent a satellite for $250 a week. and can use it as they wish to perform any experiments they can imagen that the craft is capable of performing. maby the Flat earth society could do a whip around and perhaps finaly make that map we have been waiting with baited breath for?

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Flat Earth Debate / Here is your chance.
« on: February 16, 2013, 10:29:18 AM »
this is one of the more famous pictures of the Apollo 11 landings. now most FErs seem to be experts in spotting Photoshoped photos, edited or just plane faked.
so hear is your chance.

please for the moment don't debate bash or argue about each others answers. i would just like you to simply put yes or no you think something is wrong and what about the photo is photoshoped edited or wrong  etc. we will debate each others answers tomorrow after we get a few answers in.



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this is a much bigger photo for you to have a close up proper look at in more detail.


P.S RErs join in as well

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Flat Earth Q&A / Red Shift
« on: February 14, 2013, 12:28:22 PM »
what does FE think is the cause of the red shift/blue shifr we see in different stars and galaxies. it is observable so cant be said to be a lie or non existant so it has to have a reason. in the real world we know it to be the fact that some stars and galixes are moving away from us and some moving towards us. so simple question realy.

What is the FE explination.  ???

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Flat Earth General / just NASA? i dont think so
« on: February 02, 2013, 10:47:35 AM »
why do FE belivers keep on saying its a NASA conspiricy or that NASA fake all space flight and imagery. NASA doesent have a monoply on spcae by a long shot. its not even the most capable space agency any more and hasnt been for a lot of its history.  check out this list of space agency with operations in space.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_space_agencies

then you have a list of all private compinies with space flight capabilities now and in the near future
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_private_spaceflight_companies

then you have a list of all compines with satilites in orbit of the earth
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_communication_satellite_companies

so NASA must have to pay a lot of money to keep all these agencys and private compinies quiet.

just a consideration

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Flat Earth General / live earth.
« on: February 01, 2013, 11:04:36 AM »
later this year 2 hd cameras will be launched to the iss and used to stream continual practicly live video of the earth to anyone with a internet conection.
more details
http://www.businessinsider.com/urthecast-stream-hd-video-from-international-space-station-iss-2013-1

should make things interesting especialy considering its live you can continuosly cross check cloud patterns weather eg snow fall especialy in your own area.
notice how they say it will provide resolution able to show cars buildings and even people. even at the building scale you could go into your garden and put white sheets out on the ground an hour before the iss is due to fly over your house and sit their and see if any planes fly over your house and watch the iss fly over your house? im sure countless over experiments could be thought up using this tool.

any thoughts?

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Suggestions & Concerns / Issues with mods
« on: January 28, 2013, 10:51:00 AM »
Thork seems to have issues with bieng a mod. I reported two people for having a stupid off topic single word post rant on a thread and this is te response I get?
I wasn't reporting replies to my questions it was a stupid off topic squabble between two seperate people of which I was not part.
Not realy the reply I would expect from a person intrusted to me a mod.
The moderators are not here to referee. I am sick of you all reporting each other's posts. The next person to go near that report button will be banned for abusing it. If you are unable to use an adult forum without having your feelings hurt, please find somewhere else to spend your time.

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Suggestions & Concerns / tom bishops experiment
« on: January 25, 2013, 04:14:45 AM »
Thork and FE as a whole i appoligies for saying this after your post but you have to appreciate flat or round earth this appears to be a rewriting of the foums history to hide a somthing that may very well have been a mistake on toms behalf but everyhing that has happend since this thread exposed it makes it look like a deliberate mistake that was hoped would never be noticed. prehapse just a statment in the subject in sugestions and concerns section to adress the isue instead of trying to sweep it under the carpet. it may have been an inocent mistake but the handaling of it and the silence from tom himself does make it seem a bit fishy.

http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php/topic,57282.0.html

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Flat Earth Q&A / solarsystem
« on: January 25, 2013, 03:33:22 AM »
are their any working FE models of the solar system that perfectly predict planatery orbits day/night cycles, retrograde motions, eclipses, comet orbits or solar transits? i only ask becuse their are hundreds of simulations in the real world that perfectly predict all these OBSERVATIONS to the point you can predict movments for centries if not melinia. just wondering if FE has had any luck with that? id quite like to compare predictive powers of the two models.

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Flat Earth General / live iss!
« on: January 19, 2013, 09:03:17 AM »
http://www.ustream.tv/nasahdtv/collection/29051f2bb545

will only work while its live but live interview between iss and a school

watch now ;D

let me know what you think.

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Flat Earth General / evidence of moon missions
« on: January 19, 2013, 07:40:33 AM »
#" class="bbc_link" target="_blank">Apollo 11 Earthrise - How One Photo Proves it was Real

photo that is very good evidence we went to the moon

brilliant video! pure observational science and calculations at its best! watch several times to really grasp all the math. then discus! enjoy!

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