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Flat Earth Debate / The suns pool of light on a FE
« on: February 01, 2013, 04:00:11 AM »
I thought I'd look at something to do with the sun on a flat earth that isn't "why can't I see it at night" or something to that effect.

Basically the pool of light created by the sun isn't a consistent shape and changes based on the time of year.

For the following I've used what I'd call the standard FE model with the North Pole at the center and the sun orbiting the North Pole at a fixed height but varying diameter based on the time of year. I've assumed that the sun in the model orbits at a consistent speed of 1 orbit per day, or 15 degrees of the orbit per hour.

I started by collecting the the sunrise and sunset times for varying latitudes for 3 times of the year 20th December, 20th June and 20th March.



I started at 80o north as the north pole really only experiences 1 sunrise and sunset a year and I only went down to -60o as there's not much land mass below this apart from the "controversial" Antarctica.

Please be tolerant of the following diagrams, I'm not very good with computer art programs and have been experimenting with CorelDraw and I'm finding stuff like the fill function tempramental.
So I started by plotting the sunrise and sunset times for 20th June. The pool of light, or should that be the area within which the sun is visible is the blue area. The circle in the middle is the arctic circle.



Next I plotted the times for 20th March, this was a nice simple one in comparison as the sunrise and sunset pretty much follow lines of longitude. Again the blue area is the pool of light created by the sun.


I was going to plot the times for 20th Dec but then I noticed that they're just the mirror of 20th June so I just moved the sun. Again the pool of sunlight is the blue area.


As you can see the area within which the sun is visible changes throughout the year and you get strange situations like the sun creating a straight line of day/night during the equinox or during the southern hemispheres summer the people south of the equator being able to see the sun rise and set before people north of the equator despite the northerners being closer to the sun.

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Flat Earth Q&A / Weight and the UA
« on: January 16, 2013, 07:50:21 AM »
If I take an object with a fixed mass and weigh it at sea level and then up a mountain it will be heavier at sea level and fractionally lighter up the mountain.

If you're on a solid object (the mountain) being pushed up at the same rate as everything around it (the world disc) then why would an object weigh less at altitude?



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Flat Earth Q&A / Why the north pole at the centre?
« on: December 14, 2012, 05:23:32 AM »
Simple question really but I haven't seen it answered properly in earlier posts.

What observations, supporting evidence is there that the north pole is the center point of the flat earth?

I found a few posts like the ones below but the answer seems to boil down to "it's convenient as more people (maybe more accurate to say most flat earthers) live in the northern hemisphere"

http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php/topic,16284.msg269841.html#msg269841

http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php/topic,18608.msg338191.html#msg338191

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Flat Earth Q&A / Sunrise and sunset is in the wrong place
« on: November 16, 2012, 04:53:42 PM »
I live at roughly 52į north (about 2660 miles south of the north pole), and at the summer solstice the sun rises at approximately 4.43am and sets in the evening at 9.33pm. Thatís nearly 17 hours of daylight.

Now in FET with the sun essentially orbiting around the north pole that means that the sun is visible for 245į of its 360į but more importantly it means that the sun should rise in the north east and set in the north west.

I can go into the maths and show where FET says the sun should appear and disappear but I suspect itís pointless as Iím sure the magical refractive properties of the atmosphere will explain why the sun appears to be in the wrong place.

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Flat Earth Q&A / The Solstices
« on: November 13, 2012, 03:53:26 PM »
Hi,

In FET I was wondering what the diameter is for the suns circular path during the summer and winter solstice?

I looked in the wiki and the faq but couldn't find it just a diagram with the paths drawn on but no measurements.

Cheers

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