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Suggestions & Concerns / Avatars
« on: March 23, 2019, 03:09:52 PM »
The Problem
The architectures and deployment mechanisms we are moving to don't jive well with locally stored data such as avatars. The goal is to be able to hit a button and spin up as many full working ready to go FES forum servers as possible. This will also help us to scale almost instantly if need be and recover from most hacks and issues we have with the push of a single button.

If we have to manage thousands of avatars in something like source control, this would be a non-starter. There are also security and speed concerns for saving them alongside the application code or on the same server versus other options.

The Solutions

S3 with Microserver to handle avatars: We use s3 to store our avatars and completely circumvent how smf does it by implementing the change in the themes we want it for.

S3: I can store the avatars on s3. The way we handle avatars will have to be rewritten in every place avatars are used in SMF. The drawback here is the amount of work. I'd likely leverage flysystem if we go this way, and go through and edit any piece of code that deals with avatars on the filesystem itself. The way the smf developers write their code makes this spread out entire many files and functions, and not always easy to find.

For those that have seen the staging forum for the new platform (which is aside of this work) it used this method. However, its not a lift and shift sorta operation and integrating it into SMF may be ugly. Upon looking into it further, its a ton of work.

Gravitar: Allows for folks to set up avatars that persist across sites. Third party service. Mods already exist for smf to use this.

EFS: We store them on a separate file server that we mount on our server. This has many of the problems with not doing anything, but its technically an option.

Current Plan
We will likely be moving to Gravatar for avatar usage in the future of our forums. I will be making the decision today or tomorrow so it ceases to block my work in getting us up to speed and able to deliver you guys with the new features you've been asking for for years. Let me know if this really rubs you wrong.

Loss of existing avatars (I can maybe mitigate this like I did with the staging instance for our new platform)
You'll have to use gravatar if you want an avatar, or if you change your current avatar.
The 600 attachments we have from the past 15+ years will likely be sunset. This amounts to ~3 a month, leading me to believe that this feature really isn't used that much anyways.

Voice Your Concerns or Ideas
I'm open to hear concerns, complaints, praise, or other ideas to solve this problem. I will take your feedback, but in the end it will be my decision.

Technology, Science & Alt Science / Is Mathematics a Pure Science?
« on: March 05, 2019, 11:34:04 AM »
Math is the most pure science.
How do you figure?

Flat Earth General / Sparkling Hummingbird Duck Dinosaurs
« on: March 01, 2019, 03:10:10 PM »
From the topic, you probably thought I was just choosing random words and stingingly them together. Unfortunately, this is a glimpse into the state of paleontology.

Have you guys gotten the recent Weekly World News? Their recent article, New 'Rainbow' Dinosaur May Have Sparkled Like a Hummingbird, is quite the laugh.


A new dinosaur discovered in China had feathers that may have glittered with the colors of the rainbow. Based on its stunningly preserved remains, scientists say the dinosaurís head and chest seem to have been covered with iridescent feathers akin to those on modern hummingbirds.

I'm posting this so that in a year when this new piltdown is discovered a fake, I can say I told you so. My first guess? Looks like a duck stitched together with a monkey.

Technical Support / Testing 1 2 3
« on: January 23, 2019, 01:57:09 PM »
Testing 1 2 3

Flat Earth General / Super Wolf Blood Moon Check-in
« on: January 21, 2019, 11:05:21 AM »
Is every body ok and accounted for?

I suggest full psychological and physical evaluations for any foolish enough to view this without the appropriate protection.

Philosophy, Religion & Society / Taoism
« on: January 12, 2019, 03:07:16 AM »
What's your take?

I have a very specific way about me, but do you think the whole lot is "bollocks"?

Can a specific way be The Way, or does that reduce it to nothing, by nature of it being named?

Flat Earth General / Why is it round?
« on: January 12, 2019, 01:53:15 AM »
Is there any argument for a round earth?

It my contention in this thread to present the argument that the average round earth advocate that approaches our society in debate is in actuality an indoctrinated cult member unable to reason for himself. To do so, I must first define what I mean by this:

The indoctrinated will:
(1) Be unable to support their worldview with logic and fact to a suitable degree; Make use of myths, hearsay, falsehoods, and at times complete nonsense to sidestep realization their view of the world is faulty
(2) Ignore reasonable arguments that contradict their worldview; Will see what they want to see, and believe what they want to believe in spite of rational and direct first hand evidence

All this in a silly attempt to hold on to what they believe and avoid having an existential crisis. 

To begin, I will point out some of the most common arguments that are raised to me in my correspondences with globularist sillies both within these forums and outside in our other outlets. We will provide reason why each of these arguments lack logical and reasonable basis, showing that the first two points are in actuality factual.

This list will be expanded as time and discussion goes on, and as these argument come up we will provide links to the threads in question.

Toilets Flush Opposite in the Southern Hemisphere
Toilets would be too small to be affected by any coriolis force, and their direction of drainage is resultant from toilet bowl design


No one can deny that the toilet does not swirl when flushed as i gurantee every single one of you goes to the toilet several times a day and performs this action. Now i am sure many of you also know this is because of the rotation of a ROUND Earth. If the Earth were flat then the water would not swirl and the whole amusement of goign to Australia just to see the water swirl another way would be lost!!!!

I hope you will reconsider your standpoint after reading this as this is pure evidence right here, right from the crapper!!!

Too bad this effect is not true.

If that wasnt enough evidence then check this link out, proof once and for all that the earth is round!!!!!

This surely must deserve a thread of its own:
according to RET, the earth's sphericality and rotation combine to make toilets and drains spin clockwise in the northern hemisphere and counterclockwise in the southern hemisphere. How could this opposite rotation happen on a FE with no hemispheres?

Author ignores legitimate points and leaves

If I flush a toilet in New York the water drains clockwise. If I flush a toilet in Australia it drains counter clockwise.

This isn't even true. Please make better arguments.
Well, I have tried a basin drain experiment in both places. So yea maybe a toilet isn't the best way to test it but it is true in a flat basin.

The earth rotates at 1000 mph or something like that and this seemingly big number makes FE'rs think we should be feeling the effects of that intuitively. The speed of that system is irrelevant though. What matters is it's rate of rotation which we all know is only once per day.

And why does it rotate? Because the earth is round.
And why does it rotate? Because the earth is round.
No, because of the shape of the bowl.  ...

If The World Is Flat Then Why Do Toilets Swirl When They Flush???
Toilet urban legend:

The truth always triumphs over violence.
Eird that may have been the worse comeback ever and quite honestly a sick one, would it be a problem if i had downs, do you discriminate against disabled people??? Also unclegravy i cried tears of laughter when i read YOU telling me to get laid, look at ur avatar, its a pic of some gay adolescent geeky kid riding a bike, most probably a self portrait or maybe you have that because a real picture of you is even worse or maybe ur name unclegravy r u some weird perverted dirty old uncle who abuses his nieces because he never gets any elsewhere. Finally Franc really you need to stop being so gay with ur gay messages triumph and violence shit, before you try and sound intellectual how about u stop believeing the world is flat you moron!!!

OK, explain this then if the earth is FLAT as you propose, then WHY does water go down the toilet CW (Clock Wise) Rotation in the United States, but in Australia, it goes down the toilets CCW (Counter Clock Wise)...if the earth is FLAT as you say, than BOTH toilets in the US and Australia the water would only FLOW ONE DIRECTION, THE SAME DIRECTION.

OK, explain this then if the earth is FLAT as you propose, then WHY does water go down the toilet CW (Clock Wise) Rotation in the United States, but in Australia, it goes down the toilets CCW (Counter Clock Wise)
The world is round, however this is bullshit.  Look it up.
Crab Man...I've Lived in BOTH Countries. USA and Australia.

I KNOW for FACT, I SAW IT, I WATCHED IT. In the US, water goes DOWN the Toilet CW (Clockwise) AUSTRALIA, water goes DOWN the toilet CCW (COUNTER CLOCK WISE)...I SAW IT.

ASK ANYONE from OZ (Australia) on the internet which way water flows DOWN a toilet, they'll straight away tell you CCW.

Take a BALL and draw a CW Rotation on one the TOP side with a PEN, then, turn the BALL over, put the TOP on the BOTTOM now and trace out the area you marked with a pen and NOW, the FLOW is CCW! On the Top of the BALL it's CW on the BOTTOM of the BALL it's moving the SAME DIRECTION,'s NOW CCW!

This is actual REALITY and simple physics.

Arts & Entertainment / Discovery Gold Rush
« on: January 10, 2019, 08:22:19 AM »
Does anybody watch this? I'll be meeting some of the cast today and I'd be happy to ask any questions if there's a fan.

What are the pressing issues you want me to include?

The Lounge / Happy Festivus!
« on: December 23, 2018, 11:29:25 AM »
For the rest of us!

Flat Earth General / LAD Bible Gets Trolled (again) by their own ignorance
« on: December 23, 2018, 10:44:41 AM »
In an early Christmas gift to The Flat Earth Society, a LADbible "journalist" claims the actual explanation for Aurora Borealis on a round earth is "Utter bullshite" when it comes from our mouth.

Quoting us:
"Auroras are believed to be caused by charged high energy particles from the solar winds that are trapped within the magnetic field of the Earth. As these charged particles spiral back and forth along the lines of the magnetic field, they become visible nearest to the north and south magnetic poles where these magnetic lines become vertical and interact with the atmoplane of the Earth."

"The bright visually pleasing colours commonly associated with auroras are the result of electrons colliding with oxygen and nitrogen molecules in the Earth's atmoplane. As these molecules become energized, then cool from their energized state, they emit actual light that can be seen by the naked human eye."

Unfortunately for them, this is the same explanation the round earthers give for Aurora borealis. Oh Boy.  Perhaps they don't like use using the word atmoplane? Perhaps someone will be so kind as to enlighten us to the difference.

Announcements / Downtime Oct 31
« on: October 31, 2018, 08:09:53 AM »
The issue was easy to fix, and avoidable but I didn't have time the last two days due to work. Soon(tm) we will have access for additional administrators to go in and fix stuff themselves.

Announcements / Intermittent Timeouts
« on: October 05, 2018, 10:53:58 AM »
We are experiencing intermittent timeouts. I contacted support for our servers to get this resolved.

In the long run, we are now investigating moving to a new and better server setup.

Technology, Science & Alt Science / AWS reInvent
« on: September 19, 2018, 05:37:18 PM »
Work is sending me to Vegas this year for reInvent. Anybody else attending?

Suggestions & Concerns / Searching, and YOU!
« on: August 31, 2018, 12:00:30 PM »
I am working this weekend on building in search to our new platform. I'll be indexing our data on Monday, and am building a plan around what we want to search by. Currently, this is my vision, but I want to know what you want out of a search:

- Cross concern, search will bring up site content, forum posts, users, threads, and one day book content from our library (thanks to Daniel for the leg work getting these scanned and over-layed with text, and uploading and scanning them.)
- Search by content, title, author, author pseudonyms (maybe?), thread title, group title (ie suggestions and concerns), date or date range, most common words in post, most common words in post and matches in thread, and type (posts, users, threads, books...)
- Things you want!
- Search as you type functionality
- speed and coverage of all our posts through cloud technologies

So what do you want?

Announcements / Downtime August 10th
« on: August 10, 2018, 09:13:09 AM »
Due to a change from our hosting provider that was not communicated, our site went down today. I don't have the timeline, but it is now back up.

Flat Earth General / URGENT DANGER: Strawberry Moon
« on: June 27, 2018, 04:49:32 PM »
It is advised that all Zetetics and free-thinking men and women avoid the septic moon tonight. Do not be coyed into looking at a "Strawberry" moon. This is yet another press tactic that puts funding for space exploration above the safety of populace.


If not, as always, be sure to prepare:
  • Zinc Oxide Ointment
  • Polarized Sunglasses
  • Foil or Solar Filters on open windows

All Zetetics should check in.

Shakespeare - (1564- 1616) -  Othello Act 5
"It is the very error of the moon, She comes more near the earth than she has wont, And makes men mad."

Science and Natural Philosophy
Hippocrates (460 BC - 370 BC)
"no physician should be entrusted with the treatment of disease who was ignorant of the science of astronomy."
Pliny The Elder (23 AD -79 AD)
 led to the brain to be 'unnaturally moist' leading to madness.
   Paracelsus (1493 -1541) PARA SELSUS
"mania has the following symptoms: frantic behaviour, unreasonableness, constant restlessness and mischievousness. Some patients suffer from it depending on the phases of the moon."
Ewald Hering (1834 -1918)
    "with full moon, increasing mania."


Moolight: Dangers and Precautions (The Flat Earth Society)
Moonlight and Seizures: (Science Direct

"The increased incidence of crimes on full moon days may be due to "human tidal waves" caused by the gravitational pull of the moon."

Humans sleep worse in the full moon.

Moonlight is dangerous to plant life

Moon and Madness Reconsidered
'This partial sleep deprivation would have been sufficient to induce mania/hypomania in susceptible bipolar patients and seizures in patients with seizure disorders. The advent of modern lighting attenuated this lunar effect, especially in modern urban areas.'

Flat Earth General / Dangers of the Moon: Radio Edition
« on: May 25, 2018, 11:42:56 AM »
I will be on a show soon talking about the dangers of the moon. What are the top 10 topics you'd like to hear about?

As a refresher, this is the previous discussion about dinosaurs:
At time marker, at around 30-35min

Flat Earth General / flat earth conference 2018
« on: April 11, 2018, 07:51:15 PM »
We are having a conference this year in Knoxville, Tn - one home of the world fair, and near the city of rocks. More news to come!

Flat Earth General / 34% Young Adults Believe in a Flat Earth
« on: April 03, 2018, 11:26:34 AM »
New study finds that 66% of America's young adults don't know the shape of the planet they live on.
Another victory for the Flat Earth!

The Lounge / Paternity Leave
« on: April 03, 2018, 10:36:20 AM »
You may be seeing more of me in the next two weeks, or maybe not. Having a baby today (tomorrow?) (Soon?!)

Asking why is earth the only flat planet betrays a logical fallacy. To explain the problem simply, If I eat a loaf bread each day, and those loaves are nourishing each time, does that mean all loaves of bread are nourishing, and no bread is poison?

In other words, since I can say Object A and Object B are both round, does that make Object C round? or Object D? Or all other objects?! Of course not. This would be an absurd thing to assert.

Popper later attempts to side step this problem, recognizing its tendency to lead to infinite regression. He does so by the introduction of falsification as a line of demarcation and rejecting 'inductive' reasoning as non-existent; however many have criticized this attempt as unsuccessful as it requires use of an inductive claim itself - that corroborated (highly falsifiable and tested) hypotheses are more predictive and thus should be chosen.

I suppose this is a bit aside the point, because other celestial bodies are flat. To give a concrete example, many galaxies are flat. So the argument doesn't even hold past cursory examination.

Unless this fundamental issue of induction is solved, and other flat bodies stop existing, there is absolutely no rational reason to believe that because other bodies are round, the earth must be round.

Suggestions & Concerns / Two-Factor Authentication
« on: January 23, 2018, 09:29:21 AM »
Anybody interested? I just implemented a TOTP based (those little 6 or more digit codes that facebook etc uses) for another project and it was fairly low impact.

Arts & Entertainment / Nemesis to Piano Man
« on: January 23, 2018, 08:43:10 AM »
Just love it. Really unnerving.

The Lounge / MOVED: Viola.
« on: January 22, 2018, 07:49:55 AM »

Philosophy, Religion & Society / What did christ give us?
« on: January 21, 2018, 12:32:43 AM »
Did he give us a body of mythology, where he curses fruit?

Or is it a bit more that. Did he, or whatever it was, did Christ give us forgiveness?

Flat Earth General / Wardlaw's Thoughts on Electric Moon
« on: January 20, 2018, 10:46:38 AM »
David Wardlaw Scott, author of Terra Firma, has talked about how he feels the moon may indeed be 'electric.' This would provide serious attack against the idea of luna. Unfortunately, he doesn't delve into details.

Are there any flatists amongst us that believe in this? Can you give me a good argument towards an electric moon rather than than a bioluminescent or otherwise lit moon?

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