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Flat Earth General / "Science" Does Not Matter. It's a Red Herring.
« on: January 16, 2016, 02:15:28 PM »
A red herring is something that misleads or distracts from a relevant or important issue. It may be either a logical fallacy or a literary device that leads readers or audiences towards a false conclusion. A red herring might be intentionally used, such as in mystery fiction or as part of rhetorical strategies (e.g. in politics), or it could be inadvertently used during argumentation.

Most of the claimed victories of the scientific method were nothing of the kind. Architecture? Computers? Electricity? Medicine? And so on...

Most of what people claim is thanks to the "scientific method" is actually thanks to the zetetic method. Progress is made thanks to trial and error, usually. By engineers. Not scientists. Read the definition below, and try to understand:

The zetetic method differs from the usual scientific method in that in using it, one bases conclusions on experimentation and observation rather than on an initial theory that is to be proved or disproved. A scientist following the zetetic method formulates the question then immediately sets to work making observations and performing experiments to answer that question, rather than speculating on what the answer might be before testing it out.

Some feel this is a more reasonable method than the normal scientific method because it removes any preconceived notions and biases the early formation of a hypothesis might cause, and leaves the conclusion up entirely to what is observed.

The scientific method produces:


Engineers are responsible for all of the technology we enjoy.

If you wish to exclaim, "but without the scientists doing their work, the engineers would have nothing to work with!"

That is bullshit as well. Engineers, engineer. Scientists, theorize and produce...


Edit: Pulled above out of a stupid thread to discuss the central issue.

It's the only explanation that makes sense, when you think about it:

1. They are still here, sometimes, after thousands of posts. Why? Because they are flat earthers.

2. They post silly animated gifs and the like as absolute proof of the shape of the round earth. Only an idiot would post those gifs as proof of anything other than the sophistication of CGI.

3. They sometimes have meltdowns due to their frustration trying to prove the round earth model. Why? Because they don't believe in it, that's why.

Flat Earth General / Mars One - The Latest Scam?
« on: March 20, 2015, 09:56:53 AM »
I'm sure most members have seen the allegations about Mars One being a scam:

Bas Lansdorp has never been one to let bold ventures intimidate him. A born entrepreneur, he sees potential and opportunity where others shy away. Gifted with an articulate vision and genuine enthusiasm, he moves people with his passion for science and the human mission to Mars.

Lansdorp received his Master of Science in Mechanical Engineering from Twente University in 2003. For five years Lansdorp worked at Delft University of Technology and in 2008 founded Ampyx Power in order to develop a new, viable method of generating wind energy. Lansdorp sold his majority interest in Ampyx in 2011 in order to launch Mars One, Lansdorp's dream for many years.

    “Since we started Mars One in March 2011, we received support from scientists, engineers, businessmen and –women and aeropace companies from all over the world. The announcement of our plan in May 2012 resulted in the engagement of the general public, and the support from sponsors and investors. To see our mission evolve this way feels like my dream is becoming a reality."

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What a complete load of nonsense!

Hilarious video outlining The Plan:

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You are free to believe this insanity, but you might end up like this sad loser:

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Flat Earth General / Could The Earth Be Flat *and* Spherical?
« on: May 14, 2014, 10:48:00 AM »
So nobody has to be wrong. Thoughts?

Flat Earth General / Can we trust science?
« on: May 10, 2014, 01:47:13 PM »
I read the following in the ebook edition of Michael Crichton's novel State of Fear. Crichton was an outspoken critic of 'bad science' which he believed to be a massive threat to humanity. The following speech deals with environmentalism but could be easily substituted by any of sciences big ideas like cosmology. Speech found at the link below:

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