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Flat Earth General / "Is Iran's space monkey a fake?"
« on: February 05, 2013, 06:26:57 AM »
I"m surprised no one has posted this story. It euen made the Telegraph, here in the UK.

"Iranís triumphant claim that it successfully sent a monkey into space may have been nothing more than hot air."

Flat Earth General / Are Satellites Fake?
« on: December 21, 2012, 03:39:00 PM »
I know that this subject comes up a lot, but i"ue been seeing what i can find on the internet, and am pleasantly surprised that other people haue their suspicions, too.

I found a 35 page thread on the "September Clues Research Forum" all about this subject.

This post, by "Farceualue", i thought was pretty interesting:-

"I have been researching GPS and how satellites are said to make use of general relativity to pinpoint locations. Atomic clocks evidently run slower in higher orbits and using special calculations thanks to Einstein, these time differentials can be taken into account and compensated for and millions of cell phone users can be tracked within inches. Quite a feat for 24 satellites.

Not to mention the fact that I am highly suspicious of relativity theory and its potential for being a cover for the atomic bomb.

But if, in fact these satellites are orbiting the earth in a way that allows them to maintain specific distances from each other and are carrying computers on board that are capable of performing calculations that triangulate between themselves and millions, or billions of cell phones, without ever needing processor or RAM upgrades evidently, and taking into account that the power requirements for these calculations remains constant over time, how is it possible that they have the transmitting power to cover 22,000 miles 24/7? My experience with radio and television transmission is that it takes a fair amount of power to cover a few miles. I have yet to find the specific power requirements for broadcasting signal locally, but the idea of running a network broadcasting system that covers a radius of only even a few miles on solar power seems ludicrous.

If the power requirements were met, what type of transmitter is capable of reliably pushing out the location data signal 22,000 miles? What frequency range are they using and why can we not get TV or radio more than a hundred miles out? Short wave can travel several thousand miles, but 22,000? All this precise real time location calculations done at great altitudes and incredible speeds and the satellites never need correction.

Granted, I am not quite up to grasping the theory behind the calculations, but I am having a hard time believing that all these things are done remotely without the need for physical, hands on maintenance and adjustments. Plus, I can not find a photo of one of these things."

Hope other people find it interesting, too!

Mizuki x

Edit: Oops! The full thread can be found here:

Flat Earth General / North Korea's Satellite a Dud
« on: December 17, 2012, 01:27:32 PM »
This is interesting:

Maybe they should have just faked it, like NASA do.

Mizuki x

Flat Earth General / The Mystery of Viking Navigation
« on: December 13, 2012, 06:45:42 PM »
I"ue been meaning to put this up for some time.

Apparently, it"s always been a mystery as to how the uikings nauigated. To nauigate accurately, i understand, you haue to be able to fix your latitudinal AND longitudinal location.

The theory is that the uikings had some kind of crystal that allowed them to not be confused when there was cloud couer.

But maybe they just knew that the earth was flat, so with that understanding, nauigaton was more straightforward than we are allowing for.

Am i on to something here? I don"t think i"ue seen this topic on the boards, but i think it is uery releuant.

Mizuki x

Flat Earth General / John Davis
« on: November 20, 2012, 02:41:44 AM »
Does anyone know what happened to John?

I don"t post much, but i do read here quite regularly, and he hasn"t been around for a while.

I know John is a family man, so i guess he is busy with other commitments. I"m just curious.

Mizuki x

Flat Earth General / Flat Earth Dreams
« on: November 19, 2012, 09:08:11 AM »
A few years ago, when i first started to really think that the earth might not be as i"d been led to belieue, i had a series of uery clear dreams that were uery different than my normal dreams. I do belieue that dreams can sometimes prouide you with deep insight. Especially on spiritual matters. I haue had dreams like this from time to time since i was a child.

The dream that was the most uiuid, is one of those that will stay with me all my life. I was up a small mountain in a place that i think was either Switzerland, Austria or maybe Bauaria. I was with a group of people and the guide of this little trip said that when the weather was clear, it was possible to see the hills and mountains in England. I looked and i could see them. The feeling in the dream was uery intense as it dawned on me that the earth must indeed be flat.

I know this was just a dream, but to me it has real signifigance.

Is there anyone else who has had "flat earth dreams", or am i just really flaky?!  :D

Mizuki x

Flat Earth General / Are there any clues in the clouds?
« on: August 01, 2012, 10:01:59 AM »
Last week i was on one of the local high points looking out across the horizon. It was a uerry clear day but for a line of clouds that were pretty high up in the sky.

It dawned on me that the clouds must haue been spread across many miles, but their bottom edge formed a more or less straight line.
If the earth was a globe wouldn"t they form a slight curue?

I"ue looked on google images, but can"t quite find a picture of the clouds that shows well enough what i uiewed.

Mizuki x

Flat Earth General / New Nasa Photos Reveal American Flags
« on: July 30, 2012, 02:32:46 PM »
In  today"s Daily Mail (UK):-

New NASA photos reveal American flags planted during moon landings proudly yet wave FOUR DECADES after last Apollo mission

Read more:

We haue satellites/stratellites that can read a car registration plate from high up in the atmosphere, but this is the best that NASA can come up with!?

I can"t see a single flag in these pics, just grey and black pixels.

Mizuki x

I don"t know where the idea of UA came from, as regards to FET, but a "fringe physicist", called Jim Carter, seems to haue come to the same conclusion.

Here is a uery interesting quote from his website: "Why not just discard all of this metaphysical mumbo jumbo? At the very least, we should allow ourselves to consider the possibility that our instruments are right when they show us that the coin remains stationary, and it is the surface of the earth that falls up."

His site can be found here:

(If the mods think this post should be in the "science and alternatiue science" section, please moue it. I posted it in "general" hoping more people would see it!)

Mizuki x

Flat Earth General / Spiralling Motion of the Planets
« on: March 13, 2012, 05:21:07 PM »
I find it interesting that some of the models put forward by FE belieuers show the planets mouing in a spiralling motion.

Spiralling mouement is nature"s way. It is the mouement of least resistance. Nature is intrinsically economical. The blood in our ueins moues in a spiral motion. So does water when flowing naturally in streams and riuers. At a uery high leuel, kung fu practitioners use what they call "spiralling energy" when they punch.

It really wouldn"t surprise me if the planets moued in a spiralling motion, and not in the way that we haue been led to belieue.

Mizuki x

Suggestions & Concerns / Bandwidth Limit Exceeded
« on: February 28, 2012, 09:08:15 AM »
Sorry to go on about this, but i still can"t read any of Daniel"s new files. I get the "Bandwidth Limit Exceeded" message when i do. I wouldn"t mention it, but it"s been like this for a few days.

Mizuki x

Technology, Science & Alt Science / Help please!
« on: February 21, 2012, 03:06:29 PM »
Can anyone help me? I've been trying to view the new files that Danial has recently put in the flat earth library, but when i click on the links, i get:-


You don't have permission to access /library/Samuel_Shenton_Correspondence_(Outgoing)_-_Volume_01.pdf on this server.

Additionally, a 404 Not Found error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request.
Apache/2.2.11 (Unix) mod_ssl/2.2.11 OpenSSL/0.9.7a mod_auth_passthrough/2.1 mod_bwlimited/1.4 FrontPage/ Server at Port 80

I can get them up using my phone, but not my lap-top.

Also, the captions that read 'REPLY NOTIFY MARK UNREAD SEND THIS TOPIC PRINT' - well the one that says 'REPLY' is invisible on my screen until i place the cursor on it, and then it shows up.

Can anyone help?

Mizuki x

Flat Earth General / Prabhupada and the Moon Landing
« on: February 17, 2012, 06:59:33 AM »
Prabhupada was the Indian Holy man who founded the International Society for Krishna Consciousness, commonly known as the 'Hare Krishna Movement.'

Some of you may be aware that in the early 70s he poured scorn on the idea that man had walked on the moon.

Here is an excerpt from a conversation he had:-

'GURUKRPA: But we saw the television. They showed on the television.

PRABHUPADA: No. Television could not show that. You can arrange in the laboratory such television, cheat others. And you have done it. But anyway, television or man or newspaper—you believe on others. You have not personally gone. So you believe some authority. We believe some authority. What is the difference? You take newspaper as authority. We take Vedic literature as authority. Where is the difference? You have personally not gone. How do you believe? The difference is that you believe somebody, we believe somebody.'

Very zetetic!

Mizuki x


I know that John Davis is on record as saying that he experienced some kind of mystical experience that gave him insight into the real nature of the earth. I also have a memory of Charles K. Johnson saying in an interview that even as a small child, when he first saw a globe in class at school, he instinctively knew that it was wrong.

I am seriously interested to learn how other FE believers came to be FE believers. Was it a gradual process or was it in a flash of insight?

I understand that FE believers may not necessarily want to share this information, but i thought that there would be no harm in asking.

Mizuki x

Flat Earth General / The Dalai Lama and Shadows on the Moon
« on: February 07, 2012, 01:53:05 PM »
Some of you may be aware that ancient Tibetan cosmology holds similar ideas to modern FET. This is actually what first started me thinking on this subject and how i found this forum.

Tibetans traditionally believe that the moon emits it's own light. Which, of course, flies in the face of modern scientific thinking. The Dalai Lama however, claims that as a boy he made his own observations that are on the side of modern science.

In his own words:-

'When I was a child experimenting with the telescope belonging to the 13th Dalai Lama, I had a vivid experience of the power of inference based on empirical observation [looking at the moon].... to my surprise, I saw what looked like shadows. I was so excited that I insisted my two tutors come and peer through the telescope. I argued that the presence of shadows on the moon was proof that the moon was lit by the sun's light in the same way as the earth. They looked puzzled but agreed.'


Flat Earth General / Photographing the Flat Earth
« on: January 26, 2012, 09:26:36 AM »
This year, probably late summer when i have some time, i intend to take some photographs that will hopefully add to the debate on the flat earth.

Is there a member here who can advise what is the best camera set-up for taking such long-distance topographical photos? Please bare in mind i have a limited budget, so won't be able to afford top-of-the-range- equipment?

Has anyone taken (and indeed, posted up on this forum) any photos of this nature?

Thank you, Mizuki x

These were the words of Gus Grissom, before he and his two colleagues unfortunately died.

Yet despite Grissom being a vocal critic of NASA, due to their incredible, and well-documented, ineptitude - they eventually managed to get to the moon all those times without any mishaps.  ???

It's also interesting to note that Grissom's family believe he was murdered by NASA.

Mizuki x

Flat Earth General / Earth Timelapse - ISS NASA 2011
« on: January 03, 2012, 05:27:36 AM »

When i first started to think about the idea of the earth being flat, i assumed that it would be a simple enough thing to find some footage taken by NASA (or indeed, any other space agency), that would clearly show that the earth was a globe.

However, the footage of a globe-shaped earth, rotating in space, does not appear to exist. Absolutely ALL the footage that i could find has been obviously tampered with or is totally fake. Many people posting comments on various clips of alleged globe-earth footage on Youtube agree with this opinion.

This is the best that i have seen. Whether this footage has been taken from high enough in the atmosphere to be able to say it was taken from 'space' is another matter. There are also some commenters who say that this footage has not been taken from the ISS, for this very reason.

However it was taken, I believe it is genuine footage. It is very beautiful.

Unfortunately, for believers in a round earth, this footage does not do a complete rotation of the earth to show that it is globuar in nature. This footage only shows different parts of the earth at any one time. So it could well be showing a planar earth.

Either way, if you haven't seen it, i hope you enjoy it.  :)

Mizuki x

Flat Earth General / A Bedford Levels Experiment for the 21st Century
« on: December 31, 2011, 06:17:52 AM »
I'm sure that someone has thought of this, but why has it not been carried out by one of the advocates of FE theory?

Using a device like this one, , or something similar, simply recreate Rowbotham's experiment to see if similar results are produced using a modern laser measuring device.

Mizuki x

Flat Earth General / Astronaut with no PLSS on Moon?
« on: December 17, 2011, 09:31:47 AM »
I've just been having a nice chat with Clocktower. After going a little off-thread, i've started this one instead.

Please click on this link, from the Aulis site, and scroll down to the bottom to view the 'Astronaut with no PLSS on Moon?' pictures:

Comments on this would be very much appreciated.

Mizuki x

Flat Earth General / Planet Earth from the Moon
« on: December 10, 2011, 06:23:29 AM »
I decided to do some extensive and in-depth research (googling ;) )into footage of the earth that has allegedly been taken from the moon.

I was initially looking to see what continent land-masses could be seen when earth is viewed from the moon, when i came across this video, taken by JAXA:

One of the comments by 'Area51WasOurMoon' is: 'NASA get Fucked! This is the moon size view from earth. Earth size from moon will be way bigger. Get FUCKED!'  :o

Despite Area51WasOurMoon's strong language and also the fact that it was JAXA who took this footage, not NASA, i think he has a valid point.

Thoughts on this anyone?

Mizuki x

Hi everyone!

Well, it seems that the subject of gravity is a hot topic on these boards. With people (mainly round earth types!) clinging to their various understandings of the subject with an almost religious fervour. But when you engage in even the most cursory of research on the subject of gravity, unfortunately, all is not as it first appears.

I have omitted to cut and paste some nice information that pertains to the title of this thread, as i'm sure most people here will be well versed in the inherent problems when it comes to the theory of gravity, dark matter, loop quantum cosmology, et al.

But i have to say, the more that one looks into the theory of gravity, the more the world begins to look flat.

Mizuki x

Flat Earth General / Flattened Poles
« on: May 29, 2011, 04:10:43 PM »
When i was at school we were taught that the earth was a sphere with flattened poles. NOT a perfect sphere.

Strangely, try as i might, i can't find any footage that supports this idea. All the films that i have seen show a perfectly spherical earth.

Can anyone explain why this might be so?

Mizuki x

Flat Earth General / When Cosmologies Clash
« on: May 24, 2011, 12:20:24 PM »
Hello friends.

For many years now, i have held a fascination for why people believe what they believe. Particularly as regards to spirituality, morality and cosmological view-point.

A very dear friend of mine has been a Buddhist for a couple of decades. He was lucky enough to study under a very well respected Tibetan master. He told me a story about when he was driving across a large desert region somewhere in the USA with this master. At one point, they stopped and got out of the car to stretch their legs. This region was very vast with an unobscured view (i hesitate to use the word flat), and the earth they were standing on looked like a large circle, the visible terrain curving around them. The master, on viewing this, said, 'Ah, i can see why some people think the world is round.'

My friend (very much a westerner), on hearing this, took it in his stride. His master, being schooled many years ago in Tibet, had an entirely different view of the world than the conventional western model.

I think the moral here is that we are all very much products of our enviroment. Very often our most dearly-held beliefs are not really our own. Indeed, often, we have put very little thought into why we believe what we believe. We just absorb the contemporary, popular view of the time.

Omedetou, Mizuki.

The Lounge / A polite introduction
« on: May 24, 2011, 11:22:10 AM »
Flat-earthers, round-earthers, and those as yet undecided, am i correct in assuming that this is the right place on the forum to introduce oneself? I do hope so.

I have a long-standing genuine interest in the subject of the flat earth, and have been a long-time lurker. I believe i have 'lurked moar' than most people before they put their first post up and so have taken the bold step to join this fine forum.

I sincerely hope i can bring something positive to the debate.

Omedetou, Mizuki.

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