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Flat Earth Q&A / Fe reversed debate on the forums.
« on: February 11, 2007, 02:59:41 PM »
Hey why don't we have a FEer and REer change sides for a few days and debate different subjects in the same thread? (Beast sugested it to me once)

People can volonteer and then we'll vote for who gets to take part in the debate.

Could be fun.

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Flat Earth Q&A / Ok that was weird.
« on: January 29, 2007, 08:19:20 AM »
http://theflatearthsociety.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=8637

Why exatcly was that topic closed? And why wasn't the reason given before they locked it?

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Flat Earth Q&A / Ok, enough FE nonsense.
« on: December 19, 2006, 11:09:16 AM »
Please measure the angle the rays of the sun makes to different part of the earth's surface at the same time.

You will then come to the inevitable conclusion that the earth is a sphere. Have a nice day!

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Flat Earth Q&A / That COULD work you know.
« on: December 18, 2006, 03:18:57 PM »
If we have a prominent figure of FEism contact NASA and the media, and challenge the NASA to prove the shape of the earth, and then turn it into a media circus, NASA might just take up the offer.

All we would have to do is basically make it into a kind of reality show, the funds aren't lacking for that yet. Then that prominent figure would be recorded live at all times until he/she comes back. He/she would then comment on his/her experience.

Would be worth a shot.

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Flat Earth Q&A / The end of the conspiracy?
« on: December 13, 2006, 06:45:23 PM »
According to FE, what would happen if the conspiracy wasn't the only thing Humanity ever achieved perfection with, and everyone found out that the earth was flat?

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The Lounge / Hey can anyone tell me?
« on: December 12, 2006, 10:35:31 PM »
Does anyone remember the show about warriors that had holograms on their chastplate and they could turn into the animal that was on the hologram? They had action figures and everything, Th leader of the good guys had a lion, I don't remember wha tthe bad guy had. But there were 2 women that coud change into a dolphin and a shark respectively (you know, because women are so useful in battle in cartoons)

I know it has nothing to do with FE but I've been looking for the name of that show forever.

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Flat Earth Q&A / How can the sun in FE do this?
« on: November 29, 2006, 04:53:55 PM »
I thought about this when looking at a picture provided by beast (Yes, I'm aware of the irony of him always saying pictures aren't valid and using one to prove a REer wrong, so don't bother pointing it out)

The sun in FE is a disk, parallel with the surface of a flat planet and circling above by some yet unexplained means.

When you look at a sunset, before the sun starts going bellow the horizon, you see a circular shape. A sunset happens at eye level, you don't have to look straight up to see it.

How is this possible?

You should never be able to see a disc that is circling prallel to the surface you are standing on, as a circle, unless you are looking up, which you're not when you look at a sunset.

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Flat Earth Q&A / Shouldn't this be in the FAQ ?
« on: October 26, 2006, 07:45:27 PM »
How was flat earth formed?

That is to say, why is there no explanation or information of flat earth's formation process?

I'm surprised that the origin of the world doesn't seem to interest anyone. Mots of all FE beleivers.

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There was a discussion that involved plate tectonics, and it made me realise just how impossible the flat earth model was.

All I had to do was think about the shifting of the plates, and it became obvious.

On regular earth, earthquakes(and volcanic eruptions) are, as everyone knows, caused by the shifting of those plates. The plate movement I'm interested in here is at divergent boundaries. But the same would apply for some cases of convergent boundaries.
As the plates move away from each other they will be slowed or stopped due to either friction, or contact with another plate (of course the farther it has to move, the smaller the impact will be and vice verse). It's same scenario no matter where the shift takes place. Thre are some differences with oceanic plates, but it's still pretty much the ame thing.

Even if, for some odd reason, the earth's core never cooled down, this process could keep going indefinitely, as the plates would keep moving around the earth eon after eon. There would be nothing to prevent it, as there is nothing to limit the movement of anything moving sideways on the surface of a sphere.


On a flat earth however, it isn't that simple. Tectonic plates shift everywhere. Some would be closer to the center, some would be farther. Also, some would be at the center, other at the edge. And that is the problem. On regular earth, no matter which direction the plate is shifting towards, there will be something to slow it down and eventually stop it (until it shifts again.) But since flat earth is disc shaped, during a divergent shift, the plate that is at the edge has nowhere to go. On one side there is a plate tectonic, and on the other, outer space. So the only place for it to be pushed is out of  the earth entirely. That means that flat earth would have constantly been picked apart at it's edges, while plates forming it's crust fall off in space. And the fact that it's acelerating "upwards" would not help matters.

In light of this, there is no logical reason why flat earth would have kept it's mass. There is no way that shifts would only happen in the middle and not at the edge. Even if, for some reason defying logic, it had been that way at the begining, it would have caused the plates to move and shift towards the sides anyway.

Problem # 2.

There are of course shifts that happen deeper in the earth's crust. Pockets of magma will often be violently liberated. Again, on regular earth, we mostly don't care about those. Since they are too far down to cause volcanic eruptions, the magma will simply travel latterally(it may also go up a bit, but  would never reach the surface). It could go around the world a hundred times for all we care, since it will cool down as it travels and eventually stop.

Flat earthers aren't so lucky. On flat earth, when this happens, at or near the edge, the magma will eventually reach that edge (or would already be there), and your precious ice wall.  I will not even reply to someone who suggests that ice will stop magma.

I would really like to know how flat earth gets away with this.

(other problems arise from this, but those 2 are the most obvious)

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Flat Earth Q&A / How did that happen?
« on: October 19, 2006, 10:40:17 AM »
How did the formation of earth occur in FE model?

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Flat Earth Q&A / Question
« on: October 13, 2006, 03:18:36 PM »
Which continents are a tthe edge of the world, and which are in the center?

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Flat Earth Q&A / Hi, I just noticed a very big problem.
« on: October 13, 2006, 10:03:27 AM »
Hello, I just got here.

I'm still not sure of this site is not a gigantic form of trolling, but I'm willing to give it the benefeit of doubt. Just so you guys know, I beleive the earth to be round, but I'm not going to flame/insult anyone. I respect other people's opinions.

Now on to my question.

about this...

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Q: "How come the travel time by air from South America to New Zealand, via the polar route, is SHORTER than the travel time going North first and then South again?"

A: (Presumed answer: The airline pilots are misled by their GPS, or are deliberately conspiring to make it appear that the flights take different times)


There are two major holes in this.

1. It would be impossible for a pilot to make 10+ hour trips seem like 4-6 hours. There is no way to convince someone that they are spending LESS time somewhere than they actuall are, not at that scale. Besides, all they have to do is look at their watch, and you don't even need a watch to tell how much time passed.

2. And this is the biggest of the 2 problems. The pilots are misled by the GPS, (if they are not part of the conspiracy from the moment they start working for the airline company). I'm sure everyone realises that it would be incredibly difficult to have every single GPS in the world tampered with to show false information, while at the same time not causing the pilots to fly randomly towards a mountain, AND having such temperings be undetectable. But let's assume that it is being done anyway.  No the problem is the GPS itself.

How can any flatworlder speak about a GPS? GPS is global positioning  through satellites. But satellites do not exist (according to flat world theory) because the NASA never went in space and never had the opportunity to put them there in the first place, pictures of satellites orbitting the earth are fake (again according to FET). Except no one can deny that GPS exists and work. GPS requires no less than 24 satellites, and there would be no way for it to work through any other means. Wether the earth is flat or round, that level of real time precision in positionning could not be done by any instruments restricted to remain on the ground.

Of course, it also means that Satellite T.V, does not exist either. and I'd like to see someone explain high definition TV from sources across the......what's the homloguous term for globe here?

Also, it means that the united states launched tactical nukes and missiles pretty much blindly (as they could not use satellite targeting which does not exist), but luckily for the rest of the world, they managed to hit their intended targets somehow.

That is all.

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