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The Lounge / Reincarnation
« on: February 08, 2007, 03:34:23 PM »
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have you been reincarnated? etc.
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Flat Earth Q&A / The Cavendish Experiment
« on: January 24, 2007, 08:37:58 AM »
it proves that "round-earth" gravity works. flat-earth acceleration cannot explain it, since the gravitational attraction that is observed happens horizontally. Explain.
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Flat Earth Q&A / meteorites
« on: January 24, 2007, 07:49:31 AM »
where do FE meteorites come from?
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The Lounge / A little reminder for when you drive into central London
« on: January 23, 2007, 08:38:36 AM »
The Congestion Charge operates Monday to Friday, 7.00am - 6.30pm.
To pay, call
0845 900 1234
or visit www.cclondon.com
To pay, call
0845 900 1234
or visit www.cclondon.com
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Flat Earth Q&A / lunar eclipses
« on: January 23, 2007, 07:30:13 AM »
so, has a FE response emerged yet?
how do lunar eclipses occur in FE?
convention is that the moon is obscured by the shadow of the earth. this is why the edge of the shadow is round and blurred (earth atmosphere refraction). this cannot occur in FE since the moon would have to be both "above" the earth-disc to be visible, and at the same time below it to be obscured by its shadow - since the sun is always above the disc.
how do lunar eclipses occur in FE?
convention is that the moon is obscured by the shadow of the earth. this is why the edge of the shadow is round and blurred (earth atmosphere refraction). this cannot occur in FE since the moon would have to be both "above" the earth-disc to be visible, and at the same time below it to be obscured by its shadow - since the sun is always above the disc.
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The Lounge / yeah
« on: January 23, 2007, 03:17:18 AM »
"cancer" does not exist. it is a conspiracy.
the government will infect people it doesnt like with a "cancer" as well as an amnesia drug, when they find out something that the government doesnt want them to know. it slowly kills them.
anyone you know with cancer, or who has died from it, are victims of the government's conspiracy. they do not have a tumour, they have been infected by government agents. if they say this is untrue, it is either because of the amnesia drug, or because they are lying to you.
someone will probably close this thread saying i am offensive and insensitive. but that is just because they are part of the conspiracy too. closing this thread will only prove me right. i seriously, genuinely, solelmly believe this. i swear on my life.
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there is no difference in logic between this and flat-earth logic and arguments.
FEers, please explain why you disagree with this and agree with FE.
the government will infect people it doesnt like with a "cancer" as well as an amnesia drug, when they find out something that the government doesnt want them to know. it slowly kills them.
anyone you know with cancer, or who has died from it, are victims of the government's conspiracy. they do not have a tumour, they have been infected by government agents. if they say this is untrue, it is either because of the amnesia drug, or because they are lying to you.
someone will probably close this thread saying i am offensive and insensitive. but that is just because they are part of the conspiracy too. closing this thread will only prove me right. i seriously, genuinely, solelmly believe this. i swear on my life.
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there is no difference in logic between this and flat-earth logic and arguments.
FEers, please explain why you disagree with this and agree with FE.
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Flat Earth Q&A / cancer again
« on: January 23, 2007, 03:14:26 AM »
"cancer" does not exist. it is a conspiracy.
the government will infect people it doesnt like with a "cancer" as well as an amnesia drug, when they find out something that the government doesnt want them to know. it slowly kills them.
anyone you know with cancer, or who has died from it, are victims of the government's conspiracy. they do not have a tumour, they have been infected by government agents. if they say this is untrue, it is either because of the amnesia drug, or because they are lying to you.
someone will probably close this thread saying i am offensive and insensitive. but that is just because they are part of the conspiracy too. closing this thread will only prove me right. i seriously, genuinely, solelmly believe this. i swear on my life.
_______________________________________________________________________
there is no difference in logic between this and flat-earth logic and arguments.
FEers, please explain why you disagree with this and agree with FE.
the government will infect people it doesnt like with a "cancer" as well as an amnesia drug, when they find out something that the government doesnt want them to know. it slowly kills them.
anyone you know with cancer, or who has died from it, are victims of the government's conspiracy. they do not have a tumour, they have been infected by government agents. if they say this is untrue, it is either because of the amnesia drug, or because they are lying to you.
someone will probably close this thread saying i am offensive and insensitive. but that is just because they are part of the conspiracy too. closing this thread will only prove me right. i seriously, genuinely, solelmly believe this. i swear on my life.
_______________________________________________________________________
there is no difference in logic between this and flat-earth logic and arguments.
FEers, please explain why you disagree with this and agree with FE.
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Flat Earth Q&A / FE space missions
« on: January 23, 2007, 03:06:58 AM »
is it possible to launch a rocket in FE? has a FEer ever made a half-decent one with a camera? how high can it go? could it fly round to the other side of the FE or up to the big dome over the earth?
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Flat Earth Q&A / stars
« on: January 23, 2007, 02:55:08 AM »
Polaris lies above the rotational pole of the earth and stays put throughout the day and night. this is compatible with north-centered FE. what about the southern hemisphere? sigma octantis ( i think it is) is rather faint but still lies above the south pole and stays still during a whole rotation. how is this possible with FE? the star would have to be simultaneously above every point on the edge.
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Technology, Science & Alt Science / flat terror
« on: September 26, 2006, 06:50:04 AM »
so many times i hear FEers say "stop believing what you are told to believe" referring to a round earth.
i am told american and british soldiers are fighting and being killed in iraq and afghanistan. should i doubt this? FEers: assuming you dont, why do you not doubt this? i have met helen sharman twice, she claims she has been into space, according to you i should doubt this. you may have relatives and friends who claim to have served in iraq or afghanistan, but can you prove it to yourself? do you doubt them?
i am told american and british soldiers are fighting and being killed in iraq and afghanistan. should i doubt this? FEers: assuming you dont, why do you not doubt this? i have met helen sharman twice, she claims she has been into space, according to you i should doubt this. you may have relatives and friends who claim to have served in iraq or afghanistan, but can you prove it to yourself? do you doubt them?
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Flat Earth Q&A / the FE mind
« on: September 26, 2006, 06:49:29 AM »
so many times i hear FEers say "stop believing what you are told to believe" referring to a round earth.
i am told american and british soldiers are fighting and being killed in iraq and afghanistan. should i doubt this? FEers: assuming you dont, why do you not doubt this? i have met helen sharman twice, she claims she has been into space, according to you i should doubt this. you may have relatives and friends who claim to have served in iraq or afghanistan, but can you prove it to yourself? do you doubt them?
i am told american and british soldiers are fighting and being killed in iraq and afghanistan. should i doubt this? FEers: assuming you dont, why do you not doubt this? i have met helen sharman twice, she claims she has been into space, according to you i should doubt this. you may have relatives and friends who claim to have served in iraq or afghanistan, but can you prove it to yourself? do you doubt them?
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The Lounge / the holocaust
« on: September 25, 2006, 01:40:27 AM »
the holocaust was all a conspiracy, created to make you feel sorry for jews. all the death camp photos are faked.
jews run the global Conspiracy to hide the true nature of the earth's shape. if people feel sorry for jews, they will give money to charities for jews etc., which all goes into funding the Conspiracy.
jews run the global Conspiracy to hide the true nature of the earth's shape. if people feel sorry for jews, they will give money to charities for jews etc., which all goes into funding the Conspiracy.
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Flat Earth Q&A / conspiracy
« on: September 25, 2006, 01:39:56 AM »
the holocaust was all a conspiracy, created to make you feel sorry for jews. all the death camp photos are faked.
jews run the global Conspiracy to hide the true nature of the earth's shape. if people feel sorry for jews, they will give money to charities for jews etc., which all goes into funding the Conspiracy.
jews run the global Conspiracy to hide the true nature of the earth's shape. if people feel sorry for jews, they will give money to charities for jews etc., which all goes into funding the Conspiracy.
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Flat Earth Q&A / Lord Byron on Antarctica
« on: August 29, 2006, 01:40:46 AM »Quote from: "lord byron from FEbelievers"
discoveries of hitherto unkown vast areas continue to be made well into the 1990's:
the only "unknown vast area" mensioned in his links, i assume, is Lake Vostok. it's under the ice you tossers. its not as if there are still uncharted areas of antarctica.
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Flat Earth Q&A / another absurdity argument
« on: August 19, 2006, 01:00:15 AM »
Bacteria
ever noticed how everything in science seems to be caused by bacteria? healthy drinks have "good bacteria" in them, and doctors say that illnesses and infections are due to "bacteria". we are told to clean our kitchen surfaces all the time to get rid of "harmful bacteria", when you can never even see the bacteria! the Conspiracy can easily generate the necessary funds through selling various chemicals and potions to mindless citizens, thinking they are cleaning their property of harmful bacteria.
bacteria is just a cover invented by the Conspiracy to give a naturalistic "explanation" for what is just magic. illnesses are caused by curses, and "good bacteria" are a cover for white magic.
we are told all the time that bacteria is around us all the time, but have you ever seen bacteria? scientists say that they can see bacteria through microscopes all the time, but how can you be sure that they are telling the truth? maybe they are part of the Conspiracy?
bacteria are a fallacy - a lame cover-up ploy designed by the Conspiracy to further subjugate the human population.
(what is the difference between this and the flat earth argument? why do you reject one and accept the other?)
ever noticed how everything in science seems to be caused by bacteria? healthy drinks have "good bacteria" in them, and doctors say that illnesses and infections are due to "bacteria". we are told to clean our kitchen surfaces all the time to get rid of "harmful bacteria", when you can never even see the bacteria! the Conspiracy can easily generate the necessary funds through selling various chemicals and potions to mindless citizens, thinking they are cleaning their property of harmful bacteria.
bacteria is just a cover invented by the Conspiracy to give a naturalistic "explanation" for what is just magic. illnesses are caused by curses, and "good bacteria" are a cover for white magic.
we are told all the time that bacteria is around us all the time, but have you ever seen bacteria? scientists say that they can see bacteria through microscopes all the time, but how can you be sure that they are telling the truth? maybe they are part of the Conspiracy?
bacteria are a fallacy - a lame cover-up ploy designed by the Conspiracy to further subjugate the human population.
(what is the difference between this and the flat earth argument? why do you reject one and accept the other?)
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The Lounge / argument ad bacterium
« on: August 17, 2006, 12:43:16 AM »
ever noticed how everything in science seems to be caused by bacteria? healthy drinks have "good bacteria" in them, and doctors say that illnesses and infections are due to "bacteria". we are told to clean our kitchen surfaces all the time to get rid of "harmful bacteria", when you can never even see the bacteria! the Conspiracy can easily generate the necessary funds through selling various chemicals and potions to mindless citizens, thinking they are cleaning their property of harmful bacteria.
bacteria is just a cover invented by the Conspiracy to give a naturalistic "explanation" for what is just magic. illnesses are caused by curses, and "good bacteria" are a cover for white magic.
we are told all the time that bacteria is around us all the time, but have you ever seen bacteria? scientists say that they can see bacteria through microscopes all the time, but how can you be sure that they are telling the truth? maybe they are part of the Conspiracy?
bacteria are a fallacy - a lame cover-up ploy designed by the Conspiracy to further subjugate the human population.
bacteria is just a cover invented by the Conspiracy to give a naturalistic "explanation" for what is just magic. illnesses are caused by curses, and "good bacteria" are a cover for white magic.
we are told all the time that bacteria is around us all the time, but have you ever seen bacteria? scientists say that they can see bacteria through microscopes all the time, but how can you be sure that they are telling the truth? maybe they are part of the Conspiracy?
bacteria are a fallacy - a lame cover-up ploy designed by the Conspiracy to further subjugate the human population.
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Flat Earth Q&A / Galilean moons
« on: August 15, 2006, 08:06:18 AM »
of Jupiter. they go round Jupiter, look. as if gravity holds them in orbit....................
FE response?
(BTW: yes, you can see them with a cheap home telescope, none of this conspiracy shit!)
FE response?
(BTW: yes, you can see them with a cheap home telescope, none of this conspiracy shit!)
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Flat Earth Q&A / V2 rockets
« on: August 12, 2006, 01:31:44 AM »
you know, the nazi things.
1) are they a conspiracy in the entirety?
2) from wiki:
"Under Operation Paperclip the German engineers' stay in the US was legitimised. For several years afterward, the United States rocketry program made use of the supply of unused V-2 rockets left from the war, launching over 60 of them. A U.S. V-2 flight in 1946 saw the first animals in space, when fruit flies were launched to study radiation effects. Some V-2s were equipped with a WAC-rocket as a second stage. These rockets were called Bumper. On 24 February 1949 such a rocket reached a then-record altitude of 400 km (250 miles) and a velocity of 8290 km/h (5150 mph) at its launch from White Sands Proving Grounds. The Bumper was also the first rocket launched from Cape Canaveral. Many of these rockets were used for peaceful purposes, including upper-atmosphere research."
several were captured by the yanks (and soviets) for rocket research. americans launched loads from White Sands and built their own aswell, some of their flights equipped with cameras as early as 1946. and these really do show the curvature of the earth. not like looking out of a commuter plane.
were these faked? they could not have been faked at the time - the US army (who were doing it) hardly had access to video-editing computers back then did they?!
seen the actual videos fron "the planets" BBC documentary series
1) are they a conspiracy in the entirety?
2) from wiki:
"Under Operation Paperclip the German engineers' stay in the US was legitimised. For several years afterward, the United States rocketry program made use of the supply of unused V-2 rockets left from the war, launching over 60 of them. A U.S. V-2 flight in 1946 saw the first animals in space, when fruit flies were launched to study radiation effects. Some V-2s were equipped with a WAC-rocket as a second stage. These rockets were called Bumper. On 24 February 1949 such a rocket reached a then-record altitude of 400 km (250 miles) and a velocity of 8290 km/h (5150 mph) at its launch from White Sands Proving Grounds. The Bumper was also the first rocket launched from Cape Canaveral. Many of these rockets were used for peaceful purposes, including upper-atmosphere research."
several were captured by the yanks (and soviets) for rocket research. americans launched loads from White Sands and built their own aswell, some of their flights equipped with cameras as early as 1946. and these really do show the curvature of the earth. not like looking out of a commuter plane.
were these faked? they could not have been faked at the time - the US army (who were doing it) hardly had access to video-editing computers back then did they?!
seen the actual videos fron "the planets" BBC documentary series
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Flat Earth Q&A / Antarctica
« on: August 07, 2006, 02:47:12 AM »
so does Antarctica still exist in the FE, as a definate continent? or is it entirely the Ice Wall?
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Flat Earth Q&A / universal acceleration
« on: August 03, 2006, 01:10:08 PM »
how does this account for the fact that g is measurably less at great altitude?
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Flat Earth Q&A / sun
« on: August 03, 2006, 12:57:11 PM »
so the sun "orbits" 3000 km up without going under to the other side. and the radius of the flat earth thing cant be more than 10000 km. so how come the sun sets?
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Flat Earth Q&A / space probes
« on: July 19, 2006, 12:32:28 PM »
was Sputnik 1, the first sattelite, faked?
were all these [unmanned] scientific missions faked? if not all, which ones?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_planetary_probes#Earth_probes
please note that i personally participated in the huygens program.
if both NASA and Interkosmos missions were both faked, this would imply that the Conspiracy™ traversed the Iron Curtain, implying that the Cold War was part of the conspiracy and did not actually occur.
were all these [unmanned] scientific missions faked? if not all, which ones?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_planetary_probes#Earth_probes
please note that i personally participated in the huygens program.
if both NASA and Interkosmos missions were both faked, this would imply that the Conspiracy™ traversed the Iron Curtain, implying that the Cold War was part of the conspiracy and did not actually occur.
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Flat Earth Q&A / space travel in a flat earth universe
« on: July 19, 2006, 10:41:42 AM »
is it possible? has it been done yet?
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Flat Earth Q&A / the Conspiracy™
« on: July 19, 2006, 10:05:14 AM »
do you have any objective, non-earth-shape-biased evidence for the conspiracy, or do you assume that the earth is flat and therefore conclude that there must be a conspiracy?
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Technology, Science & Alt Science / radiometric dating
« on: July 18, 2006, 08:55:53 AM »
some of you seem to have something against radiometric dating in general. probably because you are creationists and you do not like the idea of anything being older than ~6000 years old.
these two papers use non-radiometric methods to put a minimum age on the sun, which agrees perfectly with the radiometric ages of the oldest known meteorites. this is predicted by the solar system accretion theory.
consequently
a) we have an age for the whole solar system
b) radiometric dating (and all its assumptions) are perfectly valid over any timescale.
http://www.edpsciences.org/articles/aa/pdf/2002/30/aa2598.pdf?access=ok
http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/astro-ph/pdf/9809/9809361.pdf
these two papers use non-radiometric methods to put a minimum age on the sun, which agrees perfectly with the radiometric ages of the oldest known meteorites. this is predicted by the solar system accretion theory.
consequently
a) we have an age for the whole solar system
b) radiometric dating (and all its assumptions) are perfectly valid over any timescale.
http://www.edpsciences.org/articles/aa/pdf/2002/30/aa2598.pdf?access=ok
http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/astro-ph/pdf/9809/9809361.pdf
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Flat Earth Q&A / Distance to stars
« on: July 18, 2006, 05:01:15 AM »
Distance to stars
Measure intensity through observation
Intensity = luminosity/4πD2
Measure λmax through observation
Wien’s Law λmax=b/T (b=displacement constant = 2.897 7685 × 10–3 m K)
Calculate surface temperature of star
Stefan-Boltzmann law luminosity = σT4 (σ= Stefan-Boltzmann constant = 5.670 4×10−8 W•m-2•K-4)
Therefore (re-arrange first equation) 4πD2 = luminosity / intensity
D=distance to star
try it. i doubt it comes up with 3000 miles.
Measure intensity through observation
Intensity = luminosity/4πD2
Measure λmax through observation
Wien’s Law λmax=b/T (b=displacement constant = 2.897 7685 × 10–3 m K)
Calculate surface temperature of star
Stefan-Boltzmann law luminosity = σT4 (σ= Stefan-Boltzmann constant = 5.670 4×10−8 W•m-2•K-4)
Therefore (re-arrange first equation) 4πD2 = luminosity / intensity
D=distance to star
try it. i doubt it comes up with 3000 miles.
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Flat Earth Q&A / michael palin
« on: July 18, 2006, 03:57:18 AM »
http://www.palinstravels.co.uk/static-12
the Pole to Pole series. he went to the US Amundsen-Scott base at the south pole in west Antarctica.
was this series fake then?
the Pole to Pole series. he went to the US Amundsen-Scott base at the south pole in west Antarctica.
was this series fake then?
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Flat Earth Q&A / seismic waves
« on: July 18, 2006, 03:40:29 AM »
waves produced by earthwuakes travel through the earth at speeds depending on the medium density, and they also refract when meeting a change in medium. these waves, when detected in various parts of the world, build a picture of the structure of the earth, with its differentiated layers: crust, asthenosphere (low-velocity layer), the mantle, the liquid outer core and the solid inner core (known to be solid through detection of shear waves)
so, presumably, this is all a conspiracy too?
is the global network of seismometers, several of which i have operated myself, all a lie?
so, presumably, this is all a conspiracy too?
is the global network of seismometers, several of which i have operated myself, all a lie?
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