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Flat Earth General / valuable experiment to determine RE or FE
« on: October 06, 2010, 08:53:21 AM »
I may have found a way to determine whether this thing under us is a spheroid or a disc;

This is an experiment that needs to be done in a controlled environment and with sophisticated measuring equipment, but I'd like to hear your opinions about the possibility of using it to determine the difference betwen RE and FE.

We probably all know the story of a huge suspension bridge where the tops of the supporting pillars are wider apart then the bottoms of those supporting pillars, because of the curvature of the earth. I'm not goin got make any claims about this, but what if we take that situation and do the following:
-drop 2 balls from two points at a considerable height and a large distance between them. (point A and B)
-measure if the distance between the points where they meet the ground (A2 and B2) is smaller than the distance between the points they were released at (A and B).

Since the only noticable difference between a gravitation-like effect caused by gravity and one caused by UA would be that gravitaty pulls towards the center of a globe and UA pushes uniformly, the results of this experiment would give either proof for the existence of gravity, or at least more useful information about the directional push of the UA.

(This should be possible with various ranges and distances, but would obviously give more noticeable results when used distances get bigger)

Any opinions?

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The Lounge / Numbers
« on: March 31, 2010, 01:47:41 PM »
Again, how many billions live on the southern hemisphere?
Less than one.
Lol.
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Actually... can you prove it's not billions..?  ;)
(.. sorry, just trollin.. i'll stop)

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Flat Earth General / Offering help
« on: March 19, 2010, 06:33:45 AM »
I can imagine it's not easy to build up this whole Flat Earth system while most of society tends to regard observations differently.
 
Maybe there is something I (or other RE supporters) can do to help?

Like for example to make a working map or something? I would be interested in cooperating to find out accurate enough distances and creating a working map together.

Any suggestions?

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Flat Earth General / Back to basics
« on: March 18, 2010, 12:03:34 PM »
One thing that everyone seems to agree on by now:

FE or RE cannot be proven. (might still be some new RE peeps here that believe they can prove it.. but since FE does not accept evidence it's gonna be a long try)

Since neither can be proven as both theories apparently lead to same observations (for example; a flat earth with bendy light according to FET would appear to be just as flat as a round earth would appear, according to RET) it would pretty much be a free choice.
It is safe to say the Flat earth model is the least practical one to use in this society, for example because most of the world population tends to think the opposite, and also because there is simply no complete (only a roughly made) map for it.

So my question to FES is:

"Since it is equally likely that it is Round or Flat, why choose the Flat Earth model?"

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Flat Earth Q&A / Equivalence Principle
« on: March 17, 2010, 04:24:52 AM »
Please refer to the equivalence principle. If you don't even know basic physics, please avoid wasting people's time by asking questions about it. This is not a physics classroom.
-According to Einstein, there is no way to determine the difference between an object with a constant acceleration and an object with gravitational force (except for tidal force, but this is explained in the FE model by the theory that the moon does have gravity and that the same law not neccessarily influences the earth)

Then I saw this passage in the FAQ:
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"Q: "If the Earth was indeed a flat disc, wouldn't the whole planet crunch up into itself and eventually transform into a ball?"

A: If the Earth generated a gravitational field, it would eventually happen. Of course, it would take a billion years for the process to complete. FE assumes that the Earth does not generate a gravitational field. What we know as 'gravity' is provided by the acceleration of the earth."

Here's the thing:
If, according to the equivalence principle there is no way to determine the difference between a gravitational force and the effect of a constant acceleration, AND according to FE theory a flat earth with gravity would eventually crunch up into itself and transform into a ball.. then why does the Flat Earth not crunch up into itself due to constant acceleration? Surely it had plenty of time to do so...

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Flat Earth General / Basic question, not covered in FAQ
« on: March 16, 2010, 11:48:38 AM »
This question has been on my mind for a while and it was not covered in the FAQ section. Without choosing any side in this discussion, I'd like to invite all FE believers to look at the discussion from the RE point of view for a moment.. that is: from the point of view of someone that is trying to provide evidence.

Now; from looking into this site for a while it is clear to me that, among other things, photographs, maps, and eye-witnesses do not qualify as valid forms of evidence to the FE section.
The RE section however has a tendency to qualify scientific data as evidence



My question to the FE believers is:

"What would qualify as a valid form of evidence to convince you of a RE world image?"

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Here's the thing I am curious about:

-From a RE perspective, someone in a free fall experiences a not very pleasant (to me) feeling, caused by the fall acceleration of 9,8 m/s2.

-From a FE perspective, someone in a free fall is floating in mid-air (due to lack of gravity) and is being overtaken by the Flat Earth that is accelerating upwards towards him with 9,8 m/s2.
So what causes the unpleasant feeling from a FE perspective?

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Flat Earth Q&A / Basic question, not covered in FAQ
« on: March 15, 2010, 11:02:09 AM »
This question has been on my mind for a while and it was not covered in the FAQ section. Without choosing any side in this discussion, I'd like to invite all FE believers to look at the discussion from the RE point of view for a moment.. that is: from the point of view of someone that is trying to provide evidence.

Now; from looking into this site for a while it is clear to me that, among other things, photographs, maps, and eye-witnesses do not qualify as valid forms of evidence to the FE section.
The RE section however has a tendency to qualify scientific data as evidence



My question to the FE believers is:

"What would qualify as a valid form of evidence to convince you of a RE world image?"

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