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Flat Earth General / why i oppose moon shrimp

« on: May 06, 2011, 10:37:39 PM »

as you all know i am a man of reason. logic is my forte and i take NOTHING wihtout evidence! this means i am very skeptical. you can learn more of my history if you want by looking up my posts on the illuminati and freemasons at bohemian grove who run our gov't.

this skepticism is now making me turn against the FET idea of moonshrimp.

why? because shrimp NEED water. there is no water on the moon. also how would those shrimp have gotten up there? could they fly through space?! perhaps such spacefaring creatures do exist buti have not observed them. i feel FET is wrong on this.

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Flat Earth General / The arrogance of modern science

« on: March 26, 2011, 04:52:01 AM »

hey everyone. gigamonsta is back and im ready to discuss! it seems to me that modern science (mainly astronomy tho) is so arrogant. there is this belief that anything can be explained by them eventually. does anyone think that this lack of humility is harming to modern astronomys reputation and ability to be taken seriously?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Sarah PALIN video!

« on: October 27, 2010, 06:23:22 PM »

hi everyone i am back! been busy latelly but i have arrived once more to offer the truth. as i have looked into people like glenn beck and michael savage who buck the NWO i have been getting interested in sarah palin wh omay very well win the election.

what does everyone think of this video?



Really well done in my opinion. after watching this i am so interested in her.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Corporal punishment in SCOOLS!

« on: September 30, 2010, 08:48:32 PM »

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/bill-ban-corporal-punishment-schools-hits-washington/story?id=11044106

ok so that news story is on whether or not we should have corporal punishment in schools. lets DEBATE THIS!

my opinion:

i think that kids who misbehave should have the teacher come in with a big board or stick and whack the troublemaker across the back with it. many states in the US actually still HAVE beatings administered to students. why let some troublemaker bully his fellows?! why let someone not do their homework?! if they are publicly shamed and come home with bruises they will know not to do it again. also maybe if the kid fights back its quite possible that he should be tied to a desk to further the shame.

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Technology, Science & Alt Science / Stephen Hawking: "I'm an idiot"

« on: September 24, 2010, 08:02:55 PM »

http://richarddawkins.net/articles/806
"Speaking to a sold out crowd at the Berkeley Physics Oppenheimer Lecture, Hawking said yesterday that he now believes the universe spontaneously popped into existence from nothing. He said more work is needed to prove this but we have time because 'Eternity is a very long time, especially towards the end.' There is also a Webcast available (Realplayer or Real Alternative required)."

as you all know...or most of you...i have been seriously doubting the idea that the earth is round. but im not a flat earther. im an agnostic on the shape of the earth. i just dont know. yet reading this doesnt give me faith in many of our scientists. this guy is supposed to be so brilliant but he believes that the laws  of gravity and everything just suddenyl appeared one day?! what did that...magic?! apparently he actually believes (get a load of this) that nothing is something. its a logical fallacy clearly.  and he didn't even consider it at the time.

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The Lounge / Obamas national anthem

« on: September 12, 2010, 06:34:21 PM »

Glen Beck made this and he is RIGHT on spot once again! just look at all the media people who wont criticize him! obama impudently fires competent men like mcchrystal and others.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / obamas hatred of white people

« on: September 07, 2010, 04:27:15 PM »

i believe obama doesnt like white people. sure he has his uncle tom's (only their white) who are working for him like Rahm Emmanual. i just thnk all of the whites in the white house are really  just being used by him. why do i say this? glen beck has a clip that has been much criticized:



HOWEVER no one is bothering to address why glen said this. we have evidence against obama:

-Obama spent years going to church and listening to jeremiah wright rant against whites. would u go to a racist church for 20 years when their are other options?! so y did he stay so long?!?!
-he also said on the radio "The point I was making was not that my grandmother harbors any racial animosity. But she is a typical white person. If she sees somebody on the street that she doesn't know. . .there's a reaction in her that doesn't go away and it comes out in the wrong way." this comment about "typical white person" was in response to him being questioned about his grandmas fear of black men as typical of white people!
- Obama protected the guy in this video! amazing....and i thought we were a post-racial nation. will we ever learn?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Refute this

« on: August 27, 2010, 08:22:55 PM »

Glenn Beck and Ron Paul are speaking of the NWO.


Beautiful stuff. Corporations are evil and trying to brainwash you. The same with te gov't refusing to stop them. Their in the same boat and you all know it. The NWO is here!

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Do Death panels exist?

« on: July 26, 2010, 07:07:43 PM »

http://rightwingnews.com/mt331/2009/08/obamas_death_panels.php



Death panels are not fictitious. people like alex jones and glen beck have been alerting the public to this for a while. get educated and its a shame you have to use such nonsense like personal attacks to make up for your silliness. read my two links for more info.

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Technology, Science & Alt Science / BIG BANG DISCUSSION 2

« on: July 25, 2010, 07:12:40 PM »

so i made a thread pointing out how silly the idea of the big bang is and people accused me of not understanding it. so here I am with a much better understanding. thank you for that advice...the idea of the big bang is even MORE ridiculous than I thought it was. Listen to some of these quotes from the wikipedia article I was given to read on the big bang:

1) "in the beginning the universe had infinite density"
infinite?! so you have this infinite hunk of rank in a basketball sized mass right? How brilliant! its infinitely dense in such a small space. infinite?! theres really no such thing as infinity!!!

2) so this hunk of matter just appeared?! what made it appear...magic...God...? even if it was a big crunch or some other silliness how can all that matter have come from nothing?! just appeared I suppose? it appeared and then it blew up....right. the big crunch doesnt take into account as to how that matter even came into existence how the whole chain got going!

3) what is it that is making the expansion of the universe continue? i dont see this ANYWHERE?! itd have to be something external that is pushing it forward, right?!!

4) someone I know has this to say about the big bang:

"How did those atoms that collided get there? What space did they have room to collide in? The time it took to collide these atoms, supposedly took 00000.1 of a second (or whatever) - how did u get that time? If you can explain how time and space started, that would be great! But i wish you luck... Because that is very hard to answer! thanks!
2 years ago"

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Flat Earth Q&A / whyh earth going up makes no sense to me.

« on: July 05, 2010, 10:43:36 PM »

alright so heres an question for the flat earthers: if were constantly accelerating UP then don't we all go tumbling around?! whys everything so stable!? Imagine people put rockets on the bottom of ur house (bear with me) and you go up into the sky. that house is going to SHAKE REALLY REALLY HARD! so why on earth arent we all rockin around like a roller coaster/!??!?!? mayb the earth is stationary?! im an earth shape agnostic so i dont know.

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Technology, Science & Alt Science / why the big bang couldn't have happened

« on: July 02, 2010, 10:37:46 PM »

alright. so i hear all this wierd stuff, sounds like nonsense and gobbledeegook to me, about the big bang. frankly it makes NO sense. this is yet another reason to be an ESA! to all of those who think of a "big bang" let me ask you just one thing. oh and why did scientists choose such a stupid name for it?!

question:

if the big bang rlly happened...then why are planets round?!

so basically this big freaking hunk of rock or stone or some kind of crap is floatin in space by itself and it blows up! if u put dynamite into a bowling ball there arent going to b any round pieces. so how did this round earth come about? oh your going to say stuff like "time happened...and the winds... and there was all this change..." but u dont know! r u going to pull a God of the gaps theory on us? frankly, as an ESA, i think that the concept ofthe big bang is ridiculous. its disprovement also makes the idea of the earth being round silly. so a perfectly round earth blew off this hunk of rock in space?

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The Lounge / Michael Savage on NWO!

« on: June 29, 2010, 09:30:13 PM »

michael savage is catching onto the NWO! tho I dont think obama will betray the NWO i think what savage is saying is important as it shows more popular, intelligent, and charismatic mainstream news media persons are begining to understand that the conspiracy (NEW WORLD ORDER) exists!

I'd like toa sk for your comments on what savage is saying!

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Flat Earth General / Why i DROPPED round earth!

« on: June 27, 2010, 11:03:23 PM »

ESA (pronounceed: EE-SA)-Earth shape agnostic (i just dont know)

here is a heavily edited (by friends so there will be no typing mistakes) essay I wrote on why i am an esa! Enjoy!

essay:

      I used to live in a content little world. A world where good and evil, right and wrong, were obvious. A world where modern scientists were heros, politicians were good, and, yes, the earth was most definitely round. All this changed in the past year and it felt like everything was going to come tumbling down! But I was strong and my own inner strength had me accept that all I had previously believed was incorrect. I realized we cannot definitively prove the shape of the earth because we need to first unmask the conspiracy. Some will call me insane. Yet I will tell me tale nonetheless and inform all of how I slowly rejected all of the above assumptions (except good and evil...im just more confused now...).
 
     I really did believe our politicians wanted the best for us...that they wanted to PROTECT America. Boy was I wrong. I once accidentally stumbled upon Alex Jones. He opened my eyes up to a new world...a dark world....a world where everything I knew was wrong! He talked about the NWO (NEw world order) which the skull and bones, illuminati, and other powerful groups and politicians in the USA got together. They were a shadow government. I later examined books and even videos of Bohemian Grove...where they met and had MOCK HUMAN SACRIFICES AND PRAYED TO A DEMONIC OWL GOD CALLED MOLOCH! IT was there on youtube! There were also reports of them having sex with men up there...even Richard Nixon admitted it in a video (also available on youtube for those of you who are interested!) I read about how the US was covering up ALOT...including its own citizens...

       I felt so confused....why oh why was the line between good and evil so blurred? All of my prejudices...I didn't want to believe it...but the evidence showed the NWO existed and was powerful! In this age of globularism it is so much easier for a shadow gov't to rule the world. Organizations like the UN were able to have many of the world's nations checked up on as most of them were in it. But even scarier was Barrack Obama....his election was clearly a fraud. He fought against weak opponents who did everything wrong...he wasn't even born in America and he had associated with terrorists and radicals like Bill Ayes and Jeremiah Wright. He was obviously a puppet of the NWO...groomed from a young age for this job.

        I came to this website, FES, in this state of mind. I admit I left some joke threads about my conversion to FE...but I wasn't serious. Yet I eventually became more intrigued by it. I was never a good typist. Yet the FE'ers were always tolerant and open-minded, politely telling me to watch my grammar while the RE'ers sneered and mocked me. They were also open-minded and tolerant of new ideas. So many come to this site to mock and ridicule rather than to listen. Why did RE'ers do this I asked? It was because they were like me. Scared of their world views....ingrained in them since childhood, being destroyed. When I lost my faith in our world leaders and realized they were part of the NWO I felt that way too.

       I believe that a massive conspiracy is possible. The NWO proves that! Their tentacles are everywhere! Credible sites like Rense.com, as well as individuals like ALex Jones and Mark Dice, have exposed them! All of the so called "evidence" for a RE could have been fabricated too, I thought. It was impossible to know. The only way we could know is by overthrowing the conspiracy by spreading word of its existence. I finally had lost faith in modern science's objectivity. If the NWO could fabricate everything we know about the universe they could maintain an amazing amount of control over the human race! The human race would develop as they wanted it too.

       I believe RE'ers have to open their minds.Don't be afraid of the unknown! I lost faith in the comforting world I had once known...but now i know that I have a duty to search for the truth and enlighten my fellow man. Research the New World Order...it could possibly be the face for the Flat earth conspiracy. I am not sure what shape the earth is but I do know that RE cannot be believed blindly. In a thread I made asking RE'ers why they believed most of them admitted they had been taught it from a young age. Could it be that they are being manipulated? Re may bethe truth and it might not be. BUt I implore my fellow RE human beings to not judge people for their grammar or beliefs but embrace a heaping helping of tolerance, inclusivity, and mutual love so we can discover the truth.
Thanks

ESA Gigamonsta

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Flat Earth General / Round earthers: how did you come to believe this?

« on: June 01, 2010, 10:51:12 AM »

hey guys hows it goin?>

ok so heres the deal. i am an ESA (earth shape agnostic). as i examine all sides of this issue i want to ask re'ers a question:

all of the FE guys i know here were not educated to believe in fe from birth. so i want to know when the re'ers here started to believe the earth was round? the very first time you though about it?

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The Lounge / Gigamonsta needs an avatar

« on: May 24, 2010, 09:02:13 PM »

hi guys. since this is not a debate or anything i am gonna post how i wantt. look here: i need an avatar! just seeing the name gigamonsta is not good enough. i want 2 know what suggestionss u all have 4 me to get an avatar? what avatars can u suggest for me to put to my file so people will see me and it will be easier to remember me?! thankyou!

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Obama moves one step closer to NWO!

« on: May 15, 2010, 08:07:06 PM »

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/15/us/politics/15miranda.html


DISGUSTING. So ol'Barry O and his team of crackpot fascists drunk on the New World Order ideology want to take away more rights of people. Great. Im guessing that obamas favorite book is probably one written by Machiavelli! WATCH OBAMA! The media WONT criticize him. Their like thought police! And now he wants to pass this!

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Flat Earth General / The Conspiracy; its motives

« on: May 15, 2010, 07:31:28 PM »

The conspiracy and why they do what they do:

I have been pondering as I usually do, thinking deeply. First note that I am forcing myself to type properly meaning iti s going to take me LONGER THAN USUAL for me to respond. i hate typing properly and usually dont bother but due to complaints I will. Now you HAVE to take me seriously and not think of me as a kook. That excuse of "your writing sucks" isn't going to work on me now!


I was thinking that another reason for the conspiracy. So far there are the following explanations:

1) Money
2) a masonic-illuminati cult which is hell-bent on establishing a New World Order. This cult, as Bohemian Grove and the Skull and Bones society in America demonstrate, is ingrained wihtin our political system. It is a religious cult, possibly satanic.

I accept number 2 wholeheartedly. I have shown videos of Bohemian Grove, Nixon speaking on it, Alex Jones and others but have been ignored by poeple not wanting to address my points because they are too grandbreaking of a theory.

But there is a THIRD POINT:

3) Saving the earth. If everyone knew the earth was flat people would lose all faith in modern science! scientists knowing they had been lied to and wre lying to others all their lives would kill themselves! Wierd cults would spring up everywhere and the likes of Creationists and others would becoming a dominant force on earth and intellectual though would collapse!

I think numbers 2-3 are most likely for the conspiracy.

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The Lounge / The NEw york times is TRASH

« on: May 10, 2010, 07:02:23 PM »

http://movies.nytimes.com/2009/05/22/movies/22orde.html

What a rubbish article. How much do you bet the ignoramouses at hollywood were paid to do this? Don't believe the gov't does this?! WEll the NYT will get a nice big fat BAILOUT form the obama admin now that it is failing. Gotta rake in the d0ough. but ignorance is bliss I suppose. the NWO is slowly taking over and controlling things. Do you actually think alex jones would get scared at a FIRE alarm?! the man faces down NWO shrills and ignorant skeptics daily!!! Full of lols indeed. So many uneducated people. take the NYT and may it go out of business.

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Flat Earth General / Flat Earth: The Novel

« on: May 09, 2010, 07:42:37 PM »

Hey everytone. As an Earth Shape Agnostic (ESA) I am unsure exactly if I should be making suggestions but here it goes. Famous authors like Mark Twain and Dosteoevsky have used novels to get their points across. So why not FES?! i mean you could have a novel which gradually connects people to the idea of a flat earth. I am unsure of exactly what sort of plot it would have but here is a suggestion. Again I ask others, FE'ers most of all, to submit plot details as to waht other sort of plot you would like to see: Here is my idea:
 a NASA researcher who has just joined begins to notice all sorts of things not making sense in terms of astronomy and stuff. Why for example is he not allowed to be in the control room during space flights?! why are crews sent into the ocean to pick up "packages" (as they are called) in the atlantic ocean shortly after a space shuttle is apparently launched into space? why are certain established principles of space exploration halting to make logical sense? he also has to deal with numerous people who are regularly protesting outside of nasa about how nasa may be lying about it is doing. he raises some questions but is then told to back off and eventually, when backing off, given a "raise" (bribe). yet one of his coworkers, who is more vocal than he is, eventually goes missing. this begins his epic quest to find out the truth.

Frankly it may very well even become a great movie script! i liked bishop's university idea but this is better. FET needs to become ingrained in pop culture first before established centers of higher education can be built. what say you?!

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / 9-11 conspiracy

« on: April 30, 2010, 06:27:39 AM »

http://www.911truth.org/article.php?story=20041221155307646


That article debunks many of the superstitions about our society. 9-11 was a gov't conspiracy promoted my masonic/illuminati elements within the gov't connected to Bohemian grove and the skull and bones organization. I won't get into all that right now but ya should look at that! Read the above article as it shows just how much BULL there is with the what we were told about 9-11/

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The Lounge / Mark Dice- 911

« on: March 25, 2010, 03:15:17 PM »

I nkow we already got a great New World Order thrad going but here is a video SPECIFICALLY AbouT 9/11!!!look at what Mark Dice does and how he once again opens our eyes! I know he opened mine. I reseaerached the NWO after watching this.

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The Lounge / The New World Order

« on: March 25, 2010, 02:53:03 PM »

Alright there so look at me I'm using caps and actually typing properly! Whoop-dee doo! Now that that's done maybe some of the people who typically ignore my talk of the NEW WORLD ORDER will actually have to ANSWER my comments. For those of you who do not understand what us truthers are talking about here is our belief:

We believe that the United States, and possibly (actually quite likely) other governments, are being secretly controlled by a shadow government. Just look at skull and bones which many of are politicians, both libs and conservatives, are a part of!!!! This has been often linked to the masons/illuminati but it is clear that it exists. Some will say "yeah but what about the motivation!? do you know how many people have gotta be involved in that to make it work!!!???" we believe the conspiracy is most likely religious in nature (the masons are religion). For those of you who think theres no proof your wrong!


The evidence is here! It took aalot of effort to type as correct as possible because I usually dont care with internet forums! Well here you go:

This is alex jones talking about the grove:



This is a PAGAN (many of us think SATANIC!!!) rite which is celebrated in the grove! Its a real video!!!


This is just to give you a taset of what I intend to show to this forum! LEARN THE TRUTH! DONT BE A  DONT BE A MANIPULATED ZOMBIE!!

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Flat Earth General / Flat Earth in the vogue?

« on: February 11, 2010, 01:32:09 PM »

think of all the fashion statements we see today. styles that come in and are adopted by millions! im no flat earther but i do know that fe'ers need to rly be more out there. i was thinking, sort of like what tom bishop said about universities, about how fe'ers could get their message across. as an earth shape agnostic i was thinking that perhaps some sort of t-shirts, jeans, back-packs or other stuff (suggestions pls!) should be produced with fe slogans. it would be like fe being "in the vogue." i just think it would be interesting to see what happend.

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Flat Earth General / is this thje fake moon landings?

« on: February 04, 2010, 06:48:36 PM »

http://www.ufos-aliens.co.uk/cosmicapollo.html


heres the prrof. i posted something on this earlier but some trolls came in here and decided to maek fun of wat I wrote. im still convinced the moon landings were faked tho.

btw, if u in any way derail this thread im gonna take a dump in ur mouths!

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Flat Earth General / Earth Shape Agnostics: be heard!

« on: January 30, 2010, 11:58:48 PM »

Hello everyone. as u all may have guessed i hav been teetering on the brink of wat shape the earth is. frankly im not sure if we ever could know 4 certain. if there is a conspiracy going then it is quite possible that such a massive cover up is possible (think obama's conspiracy and the NWO). so I am wat I call an ESA (earth shape agnostic) who might lean towards FE but is not completely certain. so for those of you who are also ESA's stand up and let ur voice b heard!

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / obama is the evil one

« on: January 03, 2010, 01:02:03 PM »

get educated people. be wise. obama wants your liberty! hes a glutton for power. spread the word.

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Flat Earth General / How NASA FAKED the moon landings!

« on: December 29, 2009, 07:49:21 PM »

http://www.davesweb.cnchost.com/Apollo1.html

Read em and weap. It is a sad thing, and maybe difficult to accept for some, but yes NASA has faked the moonm landings. so please read this and learn my friends. learn the TRUTH.

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Flat Earth General / NASA update: more ridiculousness

« on: December 19, 2009, 11:27:24 AM »

http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/WISE/news/wise20091214.html


NASA at it again, boys. Apparently they launched a rocket into space as they claimed. I understand space flight is possibly but that satellites and stuff are probably crap. But this right here is another pathetic attempt to put the conspiracy forward. Disagree and your called insane. Maybe Round Earthers can answer this question: how do you feel about NASA using your tax dollars to do this?! Well not all of it goes to do this. I am sure some of it is sticky money if you get my drift. Looks like Nasa employees will be getting a nice Christmas bonus!

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The Lounge / HI I IS NEW

« on: November 29, 2009, 06:32:06 PM »

Hey guyz. I is a new person. English isnt first language so don't b angry at wat is posted by me.
Right now I is on the fence about the shape of the earth. I was a round earther but when reading socratees he said that question everything so thats what Im here for. Actually im a little drunk toos. But tommorrow when Im sober I might come bak here and post somethings and questions. But heres some information:
Gigamonster:
-college student
What gigamonsta likes:
-rock (billy joel ftw)
-gigamonstas name
-interwebs
-tacos

What gigamonsta hates:
-politics
-cats that scratch me (don't ask about this one)
-beets

Thanks and have a good night