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Flat Earth Debate / I brought this up long ago.....
« on: June 13, 2007, 07:29:47 PM »
Who the fuck pays for the Bandwidth for this site?

And why haven't you gone bankrupt yet?

Jesus christ.

Put the money you use for this site to good use.

Set it on fire.
Eat it.

Or you know,
Donate it to someone that fucking needs it.

Goddamn dolt.

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Flat Earth Debate / I know the Earth is not flat because.....
« on: June 13, 2007, 07:05:01 PM »
Bill Nye told me so.

- He worked on the Martian Sundial Project - SO I'm going to assume he has lots of free time for testing whether the stuff he says to the country's youth is true
- He knows what he's talking about (more so than you psychos)
- and Featured this parody of Smells like Teen Spirit

http://www.youtube.com/v/jo0jpfNoMZE

QED

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Flat Earth Q&A / The Sun and the FE model
« on: June 06, 2006, 01:10:26 PM »
The FE theory says the Sun is closer than a few thousand miles.

It also says the sun is a very small mass.

It matters wether its fission or fusion. Fission takes much more space and produces much more energy.

Such a fission system does not exist on Earth.
Nuclear arms are powered by fusion. Requires a lot less space and produces less energy.

It also says in the FE model, Gravity doesn't exist.

It says the fact that the Earth moves upward at the same speed as gravity would push down.

Saying the sun is powered by fission, which it must be,
and is in the same position as in the FE model,
We would all have skin cancer 10 minutes after birth.

But because the sun is powered by fission,
It has to be much further away.
So theres another hole in the FE model.

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Flat Earth Q&A / Read This Then Get Back To Me
« on: May 23, 2006, 01:48:37 PM »
"name         Ann
status       student
age          14

Question -   Can you give one undisputable answer to:
"Is the earth round, and how do we prove it."
Because we are having a debate in my class, and the teacher kept saying
'the earth is flat'  And I have to give him one undisputable answer.
------------------------------------------------
I may be wrong about this, but I think your teacher is trying to
demonstrate to you that anything and everything is open to dispute.  In
fact, a rather famous theorem in the philosophy of science, the Duhem-Quine
theorem, states that it is impossible to conclusively disprove any
scientific hypothesis.  That includes such hypotheses as the earth is flat,
photography steals the soul of the object being photographed, and apples
are highly toxic to humans.  To hold on to such hypotheses, it may be
necessary to put forth some rather farfetched explanations of what we can
observe, but it can always be done.

In fact, science does not work by conclusively and indisputably refuting
bad hypotheses.  Instead, hypotheses stand or fail on their ability to
explain known observations, and to predict the outcome of observations that
haven't been performed yet.  Let's take the flat earth versus round earth
hypotheses as an example.  A round earth is the most stable shape according
to gravitational theory; a flat earth would tend to collapse toward the
center, and people standing near the edges would feel a gravitational pull
toward the center of the flat surface instead of perpendicular to the
surface.  Your teacher could counter that gravitational theory is wrong;
magic holds us to the earth.  This may be true, but it doesn't explain why
gravitational theory works so well at explaining how things fall, and the
observed trajectories of the planets and their moons.  You could tell your
teacher that photographs of the earth from space show that it is round,
just like the globe model in your classroom.  He could counter that those
photographs are government fakes.  Perhaps so, but we can see that other
planets and moons are round;  wouldn't it make more sense to say that the
earth is round, too?  Your teacher could say that the earth is special and
different.  You could ask how numerous people have sailed or flown around
the earth if the earth is flat.  He would have to say that every one of
these people, separated as they are in time and space, belongs to the same
great conspiracy aimed at brainwashing us into supposing that the earth is
round.  You could ask him about the communications networks that are linked
by satellite - how can you have satellites orbiting a flat earth?  He might
then tell you that there really aren't any satellite links - everything is
connected by wires, or a close-packed array of relay antennas.

We could go on and on, and I bet that in your classroom you HAVE gone on
and on.  As you see, there is no single fact  you could tell your teacher
that he couldn't dispute in some way.  If you step back and look at it,
though,what kind of world would it have to be if your teacher were right?
Gravity doesn't function here like it does everywhere else in the solar
system, there's a huge conspiracy reaching across hundreds of years to
convince us (for no apparent reason) that the earth is round instead of
flat, the progression of the seasons, and even of day and night, are
controlled by the gods.  Eventually, a reasonable person would have to
concede that it would make a lot more sense to agree that the earth is
indeed round.

There are some other theories to explain things that do not meet this test
of scientific reasonableness, yet are still put forth and defended by many
people in society.  This example of the flat earth hypothesis lets you see
how difficult it is to change someone's mind when they're set on some
strange or unrealistic theory.  It also lets you see that just if a theory
"can't be disproven" doesn't necessarily mean that it is correct, or that
it should be taken seriously for very long.

No matter what the Nebraska School Board says.


Richard Barrans Jr., Ph.D."




"2. Eratosthanes (276-195(?) BCE) did a famous experiment on measuring the
angle of the sun at noon in Alexandria, Egypt, and in Syrene.  Finding the
difference in the angles and knowing the distance between the two points,
the circumference can be calculated.  He calculated the circumference in
stadia, which we do not know the conversion to our present day measure."


Taken from http://www.newton.dep.anl.gov/askasci/gen99/gen99427.htm

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Flat Earth Q&A / Has anyone considered, Consulting a professional?
« on: May 23, 2006, 09:01:07 AM »
Has anyone considered, consulting a professional geologist.

Perhaps an independent one to be free of those nasty government conspiracies.

Actually call some up and tell me how many actually agree the Earth is not a sphere.

I prefer to have the opinion of someone that knows what their talking about.

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Flat Earth Q&A / My reason(s) for the world being Round
« on: May 23, 2006, 08:41:07 AM »
The world is round because,

1. Flights from The west coast of the United States to the Orient are possible and fly in straight lines

Same with New York - London Flights

2. There's been expeditions to thei so-called, imaginary continent as far back as 1910.

3. There is no motive for the world to preform such a cover up,
Nor the resources to do so.

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Flat Earth Q&A / FE R's Rejoice!
« on: May 23, 2006, 08:23:05 AM »
This is an actual image of the Earth, as it exists in the universe.



Suck on That Logic!

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