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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v499/dogplatter/flatmap.jpg

All RET have difficulty in understanding Truth. They believe the Sun on a Flat Earth would constantly shine everywhere on Earth. “Obviously it doesn’t!” And yet it remains Flat. Allow me to magnify the myopic thinking of these intellectually challenged people. RET believe that the link above is the actual size of the Flat Earth, "ITS NOT!" How this escapes them is beyond me, the map is ONLY and illustration to understand the physical laws that have been observed on the Flat Earth, they be applied and accepted as Absolute Truth.

a) RET are perplexed because they would rather have you believe that the Sun on the Flat Earth would always be seen. A given that their vision has no limits, “no-one in the science community wears glasses, lol!” No folks our eyes have limited vision, we can only see so far, this is why we ALL see a Horizon. The Horizon are the limits of our field of vision and not the curvature of the Earth. You would know this to be true if you flew a plane over those Horizontal “limits” of your vision that the Earth continues over the Horizon and it continues to be Flat.

b) When the Sun rises it crosses over the limits of your vision (Horizon) and comes into your field of vision in proportion to the Horizon. Meaning, if something the size of a baseball crossed your Horizontal limit’s the size of the ball is insignificant to the Horizon around it and therefore you would only see the ball if it got closer to where your standing. Now the Sun on the other hand is a lot bigger then the baseball but not as big as the science lies that were taught to you. The Sun is the same size as the Moon. When the tip of the Sun crosses into your field of vision you then begin to see everything within (inside) those limits including the tip of the Sun. This is why we see the Sun from tip to bottom when rising, and it disappears the same way at setting when the bottom mysteriously disappears into the "outside" of your field of vision (Horizon) and therefore no longer in your sight (limited), because you can't see nothing else over the Horizon, including the Sun.

c) RET will say, “even if you can’t see the Sun, the light of the Sun surely would illuminate the Flat Earth?” The light my brothers and sisters, the light, the one who possesses the light possesses the Truth. The Sun’s light has his limits too, and you know it does because at dawn just before the Sun rises the light reaches you before you see the Sun because the light has crossed over the Horizontal limits of your field of vision. And in the light lay the heat and therewith at Sunrise the limits of the Sun’s light are hitting you but the heat is lukewarm because these are the very limits of the Sun’s light. When the Sun is crossing the midday sky it is right above and closest to you and therefore HOT, but at Sunset again the Sun beings to take distance from you and the limits of the Sun’s light are again felt lukewarm.

d) When GOD created the Flat Earth the LORD made it that the Sun travels six circles round and round the Flat Earth, and when we in North America experience spring & summer the Sun is riding the 3 smallest of the circles meaning closest to the center of the Flat Earth which is the Magnetic Pole (Abyss) or the Arctic circle. The LORD made it that during these 3 of the smallest circles the Arctic circle would receive only light (6 months) and because the Great Architect’s measurements are so precise GOD measured sure that the Arctic circle received only the limits of the Sun’s light (lukewarm) thereby not melting the Ice Cap therewith the Sun’s light.

6 circles, 6 months of light (Abyss), Adam’s creation 6th day.

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Flat Earth Debate / Who FLATTENED the Earth's "arc's?"
« on: October 02, 2008, 05:29:04 PM »
Let the Punisher help you out with the definition of the word [arc]: (ärk) noun [C]

1.Something shaped like a curve or arch: the vivid arc of a rainbow.
2.Mathematics. A segment of a circle.
3.Geometry. any unbroken part of the circumference of a circle or other curved line.
4.Astronomy. the part of a circle representing the apparent course of a heavenly body.
5.anything bow-shaped. –verb (used without object)
6.to move in a curve suggestive of an arc.

QUESTION: Why are the arc's of the Round Earth FLAT?

If you are still having difficulties in understand that an ARC cannot be Flat please click below for further assistance. Pretend the yellow circle is the round Flat Earth and the blue arc is the area of the round Flat Earth you live on. Drag the dot around the Earth, "notice any Flatness around the Earth?"

http://www.mathopenref.com/arc.html

Here is one of my favorite science definition of the flat arc's on my pleasure pass-time. The hub's arc of the bicycle wheel are way, way, smaller then the rim's arc (tire), and although every degree (width between spokes ratio rim/hub) are wider on the rim (tire) then on the hub, its still 360 degrees, and round, "no flat to be found" unless you rode on broken glass. LOL



EYES WIDE SHUT!!!!


"The Space Walk" by Punisher.
http://theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=23648.msg501690#msg501690

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The Light my brothers and sisters is the final blow to the puppet masters of science. Science has masturbated our minds and twisted them so that our brains spin without the Earth having too. The diagram below shows the Earth at opposite sides of the Sun and although this may seem reasonable and logical to us, "this is actually insanity!"



The Earth's axis illustrates that at different times of the year the Earth's axis tilts closer to the Sun and at other times further giving us the Seasons. At first glance this may seem logical and our pretzelized brain will accept it as truth. But the light my brothers and sister, the light, he who possesses it possess the Truth. Science-fiction could not do away with the light (Truth).



The above shows the Earth revolving around the Sun, therefore, half of the Earth (sphere) would be lit-up by the Sun's light, "right?" Right! So wherever the Earth would revolve around the Sun half of the Earth's sphere would continuously be lit-up by the Sun's light, "right?" Right! That would mean that we who are on that sphere (Earth) would always experience 12hrs of day and 12hrs of night, "right?" WRONG!!!!!!!!

Understanding the light (Truth) ends their reign on our brain and we can begin to think for yourself outside the BOX. Assert yourself, and take responsibility, we can make a difference if there are many like us. Together we stand!

The Round Flat Earth Thread.
http://theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=23160.0

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"How can an airplane mysteriously follow the curvature of the Earth's atmosphere?"

You read it correctly. Yes!!!! How does the airplane never fly above its cruising altitude as the curvature of the Earth's surface quickly declines beneath the airplane? This should increase the altitude of the level the airplane is flying having the pilots intervene periodically to descend the nose of the aircraft back to cruising altitude.

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"Who is worthy to open the scroll and break its seals?" One of the elders said to me, The Lion of the tribe of Judah, the root of David, has triumphed, enabling him to open the scroll with its seven seals.” JESUS IS KILLING US.

1st Seal: White Horse, and its rider had a bow. He was given a crown, and he rode forth victorious to further his victories.
Jesus the Lion-King furthering his victories by spreading his holy gospel by the sword, Crusades, Spanish/Americas, British/Americas. This TOOK place.

2nd Seal: Red Horse, its rider was given power to take peace away from the Earth, so that people would slaughter one another. And he was given a huge sword. Matthew.10:[34]I have come to bring not peace but the sword. This TOOK place.

3rd Seal: Black Horse, and its rider held a scale in his hand. It said, "A ration of wheat costs a day's pay, and three rations of barley cost a day's pay. This is  TAKING place.

4th Seal: Pale Horse, its rider was named Death, and Hades accompanied him. They were given authority over a quarter of the earth, to kill with sword, famine, and plague, and by means of the beasts of the earth. This is in PROCESS.

5th Seal: I saw the souls of those who had been slaughtered. They cried out in a loud voice, "How long will it be, holy and true master, before you sit in judgment and avenge our blood on the inhabitants of the Earth?" They were told to be patient a little while longer until the number was filled of their fellow servants and brothers who were going to be killed as they had been.
This is to MOCK the true believers.

 a little while longer until the number was filled of their fellow servants and brothers who were going to be killed
 a little while longer until the number was filled of their fellow servants and brothers who were going to be killed

This fifth Seal is mocking the true believers of the Book Of Enoch, the inhabitants of the Earth is what Enoch called the people of the World, no distinction because all races were created by GOD, Jesus never spoke with this term in his gospel, Jesus always spoke with terms of division like Gentile and Jew. But one thing both true-believers and non-believers can agree on is that Jesus is one RELENTLESS blood thirsty sadistic extraordinaire.

6th Seal: and there was a great earthquake; the sun turned as black as dark sackcloth and the whole moon became like blood. [13]The stars in the sky fell to the earth like unripe figs shaken loose from the tree in a strong wind. This we CAN  stop.

This last Seal obviously is Nuclear Armageddon and it is one that ‘Sweet Jesus’ hasn’t opened yet,  well, I’ve got news for Jesus and his followers who still pray to this Devil, this last Seal, won’t get opened, I'm calling GOD down, GET READY…[/i]

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Flat Earth Q&A / The Helium Balloon Test.
« on: September 24, 2008, 07:56:56 AM »
Helium symbol = He

If I’m holding a helium balloon in outer-space high above our Earth’s atmosphere which way will the He-balloon float?

Like all things helium gas obeys the laws of Earth’s physics, fresh water rises over salt water so will gases depending on their densities, He-gas will rise above Ozone but remain stationed below Hydrogen and as all of Earth’s gases layer themselves one over the other from the bottom up there comes a limit to where there will be a clear separation between the layers of these gases (atmosphere) and the void of space. And this limit does exit or we would lose all of Earth’s gases including our oxygen to the vast emptiness of space, so, these gases do respect the laws of Earth’s physics. This is how the Shuttle after plunging through the atmosphere falls back and hovers over the Earth and needs rocket engines to help break-thru the first layers of these gases until inside this invisible dome then shuts off the engines and glides to the surface of Earth.

Question remains, which way will this helium balloon float?

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2Thessalonians.2:[6]And now you know what is restraining, that he may be revealed in his time. [7] For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work. But the one who restrains is to do so only for the present, until he is removed from the scene. [8]And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the LORD will kill with the breath of HIS mouth and render powerless by the manifestation of HIS coming, [9] the one whose coming springs from the power of Satan in every mighty deed and in signs and wonders that lie, [10]and in every wicked deceit for those who are perishing because they have not accepted the love of truth so that they may be saved.

Verse #7 is the one who restrained me from seeing this until recently.
The word LORD in verse #8 is truly the CREATOR the Father and this is consistent with Enoch, READ;

1Enoch.89:[26]I saw also that the LORD of the Sheep came to them, and taking in HIS hand the sceptre of HIS wrath seized the Earth, which became rent asunder; while all the beasts and birds of heaven fell from the sheep, and sunk into the Earth, which closed over them.

the LORD of the Sheep came to them and birds of heaven fell from the sheep
the LORD of the Sheep came to them and birds of heaven fell from the sheep

whom the LORD will kill with the breath of HIS mouth and render powerless by the manifestation of HIS coming,
whom the LORD will kill with the breath of HIS mouth and render powerless by the manifestation of HIS coming,

These ones and the one who restrained me are the Fallen angels who restrain wisdom and truth and lead many into abominable life style, orgies and bi-sexuality (fornication), going shopping while the World around crumbles, seeing the homeless and helpless doesn’t affect anyone anymore we just walk on by (impiety), famine, war, diseases (destruction) this one has been removed from me, I see 20/20. These ones and the lawless one will be destroyed they are doomed to perdition, the lawless one holds the power of Satan because he too is a fallen son of GOD.

2Thessalonians.2:[11]Therefore, GOD is sending them a deceiving power so that they may believe the lie, [12]that all who have not believed the truth but have approved wrongdoing may be condemned.

Verse [11] is erroneous and misleading for true GOD would never do this, DECEIVE. The 11th blessing of Jesus ranks in the number 9 position consistent with the number of SATAN, DECEPTION.

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THE NUMBER OF THE FORCES OF DESTRUCTION IS 9.

2Enoch.29:[2]And from the rock I cut off a great fire, and from the fire I created the orders of the incorporeal ten troops of Angels, and their weapons are fiery and their raiment a burning flame, and I commanded that each one should stand in his order. [3]And one from out the order of Angels, having turned away with the order that was under him, conceived an impossible thought, to place his throne higher than the clouds above the earth, that he might become equal in rank to MY power. [4]And I threw him out from the height with his angels, and he was flying in the air continuously above the bottomless.

9 is the number of Satan: Judaism (tithing 10%) 1/tenth = 1 out of 10: Satanic Church 9 sin/statements: the 9 planets of satanic science. It is highly probable that it was the 9th troop to have rebelled against GOD and HIS creation, Jesus gave little hints here and there that he was part of that Rebellion.

Matthew.5:

1- [3]Blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
2- [4]Blessed are they who mourn, for they will be comforted.
3- [5]Blessed are the meek, for they will inherit the land.
4- [6]Blessed are they who hunger and thirst for righteousness, for they will be satisfied.
5- [7]Blessed are the merciful, for they will be shown mercy.
6- [8]Blessed are the clean of heart, for they will see God.
7- [9]Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called children of God.
8- [10]Blessed are they who are persecuted for the sake of righteousness, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
9- [11]Blessed are you when they insult you and persecute you and utter every kind of evil against you (falsely) because of me.

Numbers are very important to true GOD, if Jesus was doing GOD'S bidding he would never have given 9 blessings, he would never abolish laws given by GOD, never divide creation. (Jews-Gentile)

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THE BOOK OF GOD

(2)Enoch Chapter 52

GOD instructs HIS faithful, how they are to praise HIS name

1- [1]Blessed is the man who opens his lips in praise of GOD of Sabaoth and praises the LORD with his heart.
1- [2]Cursed every man who opens his lips for the bringing into contempt and calumny of his neighbour, because he brings GOD into contempt.

2- [3]Blessed is he who opens his lips blessing and praising GOD
2- [4]Cursed is he before the Lord all the days of his life, who opens his lips to curse and abuse.

3- [5]Blessed is he who blesses all the LORD’S works.
3- [6]Cursed is he who brings the LORD’S creation into contempt.

4- [7]Blessed is he who looks down and raises the fallen.
4- [8]Cursed is he who looks to and is eager for the destruction of what is not his.

5- [9]Blessed is he who keeps the foundations of his fathers made firm from the beginning.
5- [10]Cursed is he who perverts the decrees of his forefathers.

6- [11]Blessed is he who imparts peace and love.
6- [12]Cursed is he who disturbs those that love their neighbours.

7-[13]Blessed is he who speaks with humble tongue and heart to all.
7-[14]Cursed is he who speaks peace with his tongue, while in his heart there is no peace but a sword.

[15]For all these things will be laid bare in the weighing-scales and in the books, on the day of the Great Judgment.

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The Falling Away.

2 Thessalonians.2:[3]Let no one deceive you in any way. For unless the apostasy comes first and the LAWLESS one is revealed, the one doomed to perdition, [4] who opposes and exalts himself above every so-called god and object of worship, so as to seat himself in the temple of God, claiming that he is a god.

Jesus is the LAWLESS one, he sits in Temples (churches) and pretends to be GOD, he abolished the laws given to Moses by Holy GOD, Jesus made himself in that one act GOD

Ephesians.2:[15]abolishing the law with its commandments and legal claims, that he might create in himself one new person in place of the two, thus establishing peace,

create in himself one new person in place of the two
create in himself one new person in place of the two

Doing away with the Father, doing away with the LAWS and making peace for you, no-more struggling for you between good & evil, between GOD & Devil. There it is folks, it has begun, and do not be frighten it is actually a good thing, GOD will only descend when the Great Falling Away occurs, even the chosen people first fell away from their Egyptian God worship when they realized that the Devil is real and quickly ran back to their beloved CREATOR. How did the chosen people know who to worship for deliverance when their Torah was only written centuries latter? They had the Covenant of GOD made thru Enoch for Mankind. Moses did not write the Covenant, for Noah possessed it in the Ark, he too was part of the Covenant, Moses didn’t build an ark for the Covenant he built one for the commandments because he possessed the Covenant to 'Rapture' the chosen people from Pharaoh and unto the promised land.

Exodus.26:[33]The ark of the commandments you shall bring inside, behind this veil which divides the holy place from the holy of holies.| This was later changed in Deuteronomy to ‘covenant’ the Devil usually fumbles with scriptural underwriting, which by the way was predicted also by my Great teacher Enoch.

The sheep who believe in the LAWLESS one have made their choice, I'm here for the ones who haven't yet, for I too possess the Covenant....

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John.11:[25]Jesus told her, "I am the resurrection and the life; whoever believes in me, even if he dies, will live, [26]and everyone who lives and believes in me will never die. Do you believe this?"

and everyone who lives and believes in me will never die.
and everyone who lives and believes in me will never die.

When the Father decreed the following; Genesis.6:[3]Then the LORD said: "My spirit shall not remain in man forever, since he is but flesh. His days shall comprise one hundred and twenty years."

His days shall comprise one hundred and twenty years."
His days shall comprise one hundred and twenty years."

Now, if we accept that Jesus is the LAWLESS one for abolishing the Father's laws, we will have to consider on how Jesus will be able to defeat GOD and allow us never to die, does anybody know how Jesus is going to defeat the Father?

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Only those with a higher spiritual understanding and who posses Truth will be able to answer the following as to why Jesus said; Matthew.10:[23]When they persecute you in one town, flee to another. Amen, I say to you, you will not finish the towns of Israel before the Son of Man comes.

Is the Son Of Man here?
Is this the Kingdom of Heaven?

Jesus seals his with this verse; “Verily I say unto you, There shall be some standing here which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom” (Matthew 16:28).

There shall be some standing here which shall not taste of death
There shall be some standing here which shall not taste of death

Waiting for those who are filled, overflowing with Grace capable of answering...

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Flat Earth Debate / UNBANNED - And More EVIDENCE of a Flat Earth...
« on: September 15, 2008, 04:56:15 PM »
If the Earth did revolve around the Sun, and the Moon around the Earth, at some point the Moon would find herself in between the Earth and the Sun.



We would not be able to see the crescents of the Moon in the dead of night (like ehhhh, mid-night) for 29 days are assigned to the Lunar calender (one full revolution around Earth), thereby, the Moon would remain close to the Sun for "days" we would not be able and could "only" see the crescents of the Moon in the day, but we see them at night, under this FAILED theory the Earth remains flat.



The THREAD that got me BANNED.
http://theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=23160.0

And the Punisher remains the "Indisputable Champion of the Universe."

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Flat Earth Debate / Round Earth Theory--DEMOLISHED.
« on: September 11, 2008, 11:19:41 AM »
I speak with a humble tongue and a kind heart that I may impart peace and love, (Truth).

The North pole is the only place on a flat Earth where 6 months of light and darkness can and has been documented by the people who live there (Inuits-Eskimos), according to science if the Earth spun on her axis this could not take place. The diagram shows when the North axis is tilted away from the Sun in Dec (3/mths), therebe no day-light, and in June towards the Sun (3/mths), therebe no nights, but in the March and Sept position the North axis gets half light/half night (6/mths), under this failed THEORY the Earth is flat.

In the North it is evident that there will be (6/6 months day/night) because the Earth is flat and by this it manifests look at the map below when the Sun is closer to the center as in the (spring/summer) the 6 months light documentation is confirmed and the same during the (fall/winter) when the Sun is further for the 6 months nights.
   
Yes my brothers, we've been lied too and we've forgotten Wisdom, but I remembered my CREATOR, you see GOD knows this Earth better then anyone else, yes my brothers, science mumbo-jumbo doesn't stand a chance before GOD, for GOD knows all, even their Pinocchio round theory. The Truth will be putting a hamper on their mind parade of orgies that has been masturbating the populace, neither will we feel sorry that their parade will be coming to an end, yes brothers, the end is nigh.

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In short because its the Abyss that leads to the bottomless (gravity).

The bottomless is the greatest force of attraction and because the Abyss was designed at the center of a flat Earth to serve a purpose, your compass points to the center of the Earth. The needle of a compass will always pull towards this center, the so-called North pole, and the needle will always point downwards, here's why.

[true north is not at the same point on the earth as the magnetic north Pole which is where your compass points]
http://www.ussartf.org/compass_basics.htm

Your compass doesn't point North, it points to the Abyss!

Science tells us that the North pole is magnetizes due to the following; the planet spins of her axis and produces this effect, others; its the hot, liquid, outer iron core of the Earth that creates this magnetic pull, I say "horse hockey!"

1)"Spinning in outer space?" In the "nothingness" will produce nothing, in fact, the poles of this hypothetical sphere will have the least of grounds moving or turning producing the least of anything suspended in an orbit of nothingness, and besides, what of the atmosphere that encompasses the whole globe, the poles under this umbrella will be no different then any other region of the sphere.

2)Science also tells you that under the Ice Cap of the North pole is water running beneath it, "so where is the attraction coming from?" Not the ice, that's just solid water, no magnets there, not the water underneath it, that too is just water, and 3 miles deep at the bottom of the Atlantic ocean is like the beach you walk on vacation, and don't tell me the hot, liquid, outer iron core on the ocean floor creates the cold condition above it, or the attraction!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laurentian_Abyss

Listen to what the Great Architect says.

GOD:And I placed for myself a Throne, and took my seat on it, and said to the light: Go thence up higher and fix yourself high above the Throne, and be a foundation to the highest things. And above the light there is nothing else, and then I bent up and looked up from My Throne. And I summoned the very lowest a second time, come forth hard from the invisible. Be opened, let there be born from you, and an age came forth, very great and very dark. Go thence down below, and make yourself firm, and be a foundation for the lower things, and below the darkness there is nothing else.

Remember this, GOD commands the light to go above and the darkness to go below.

GOD:And I commanded that there should be taken from light and darkness, and I said: Be thick, and it became thus, and I spread it out with the light, and it became water, and I spread it out over the darkness, below the light, and then I made firm the waters, that is to say the bottomless.

The LORD creates the firmament holding the waters from falling to the bottomless.

GOD:Out of the waves I created rock and from the rock I piled up the dry, and I called Earth, and the midst of the Earth I called Abyss, that is to say the bottomless. And I made foundation of light around the water, and created seven circles from inside, and imaged the water like crystal wet and dry, that is to say like glass. (Ice Wall)

The LORD places the Abyss in the center of the Earth, an opening to the bottomless (darkness) and a foundation of (light) around the waters, around the Earth (Ice Wall).
http://img398.imageshack.us/img398/5118/earthiy9.jpg

The Abyss is heavily magnetizes to generate intense fire like a nuke reactor, only the fire of the Abyss can atomize the Fallen Angels. The needle of a compass when pointing North is pointing to the Abyss and will always be pulled downwards (darkness), the needle pointing South (Ice Wall all around) will always be pulled upwards (light).
http://science.howstuffworks.com/fusion-reactor3.htm

Might As Well Face It, Your Addicted (2) Truth.

Paradise Eden link: http://theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=22446.msg458642#msg458642
Flat Earth link: http://theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=22393.0
No Planets link: http://theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=22447.0

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times = x
divide = ~
kilometers = #
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To find out if  the planet Venus really exist, we would have to find out at what orbital distance Venus would look the same size of the Sun as the Moon does from Earth.

Now, for the Moon to carry the illusion of seemingly being the same size as the Sun, a distance of 149,600,000 kilometers is needed, it is NEEDED, because by arguing that its the distance between the Moon and Earth that causes the illusion won't hold true for very long.

If you would for a moment picture that the Earth was orbiting where Venus is (108,200,000) orbital plane, Earth by scientific calculations would fit along the Sun's DIAMETER about 30 times, the Moon regardless that she be so close to Earth would be dwarfed from the size of the Sun, because the Sun would completely cover our blue skies, so, its not the relationship distance that the Moon holds with Earth that creates the illusion, but the distance the Moon holds with the Sun, its that distance that creates the optical illusion of being the same size.

Venus to encompass that optical illusion she would have to distance herself away from the Sun in equivalency to that of the Moon, the Moon is 399.88 smaller then the Sun, we would have to divide the distance of the Moon from the Sun by 399.88 and then multiply by how many times Venus is smaller then the Sun.   

Sun (diameter) 1,390,000 ~ Moon (diameter) 3476 = 399.88
Sun (diameter) 1,390,000 ~ Venus (diameter) 12,103 = 114.84

Sun - Moon (distance) 149,600,000  ~  399.88  =  [374,112.23]  x  114.84  =  42,963,048.49

Venus at 42 million kilometer from the Sun would create the optical illusion of having the appearance of the size we see our Sun in our sky. Science tells us that Venus occupies the 108,200,000 kilometer position from the Sun a (difference) of 65,236,951.6 km from her original orbit a quick division establishes her true size at 108,200,000 km.

108,200,000 ~ 42,963,048.49 = 2.51

Venus would appear 2 and ½ times the size of the Sun as seen from Earth.

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Some hard-core science fundamentalist will argue that the distance relationship between the Earth and Moon is also a factor in conjunction with the distance from the Sun, the argument being that both are needed to create this well calibrated illusion, and for Venus to reflect the illusion this theory must be factored in, I say, lets find out.

Venus (diameter) 12,103.6 km ~ Moon (diameter) 3476 km = 3.4820 times larger then Moon, for Venus to look the same size of the Sun as the Moon does from Earth, we would have to calculate the distance of the Moon from the Earth and multiply it 3.4820 times. Venus is 3.4820 times larger then the Moon, therefore, a distance 3.4820 times away from Earth is needed to create the same optical illusion the Moon does with the Sun.

Moon distance from Earth: 384,400 km x 3.4820 = 1,338,480.8 km.

Venus would have to be 1,338,480.8 kilometers away from Earth to look the same size of the Sun as the Moon does from Earth. And since the Earth is 149,600,000 km away from the Sun, Venus would have to orbit at 148,261,519.2 from the Sun.

[149,600,000] - [1,338,480.8] = 148,261,519.2 km.

At this orbit is where the fundamentalist have calculated that Venus will appear 1/1 in diameter to the Sun, and at the 108,200,000 kilometer mark Venus is 1/30 in diameter to Sun, consistent with the transit sightings and the fact that field experts who went out in space and have measured the Sun put Venus at 1/114 diameter to the Sun, this math is incorrect, science ascribes that the diameter of the Sun shrinks the closer Venus gets to Earth, the diameter of the Sun remains the same but the illusion of grandeur that Venus projects because she gets closer to Earth is what must be considered, I have considered this and tabulated it carefully and accurately.

If I stand 5'11 before you, am I not still 5'11 a mile away from you, yes, I am!

Venus doesn't become the true size of the Sun, only the illusion that distance creates because the Sun is so far away, so one must calculate where Venus should be to capture the wholeness of the Sun's illusion and that point/orbit becomes 100% of the optical illusion as seen from Earth, and where by Venus standing next to the Sun being zero%, because at that closeness there would be no more illusion but reality.

So, Venus at 148,261,519.2 km in orbit would project 100% optical illusion of being the same size as the Sun seen from Earth, when resuming to her original orbit at 108,200,000 km Venus would lose a certain percentage of that optic when viewed from Earth, to calculate that lose we’ll put the hypothetical orbit on a percentage scale and divide into her original position from the Sun.

108,200,000 km ~ 148,261,519.2 km = 72.97% Venus RETAINS in size compared to our Sun as it appears like in our skies. OPTICS

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ILLUSION 3; http://pastebin.com/f58581b97
 
Conclusion: the satanic veil of deception is very thick and powerful, misleading many, such as we were all at some point, some, maybe finally coming around to understanding that science is a religion, no less, I've encountered many "radicals" who will resort to name calling worse then 5th graders, and would physically assault you if not for their feeble pencil neck bodies, these scientistic fundamentalist are like their leaders of this new religion who are going forth with the sword, (rockets, jets, nukes), this is their Crusade.

Whatever ILLUSION you choose, remember that GOD’S light shines for everyone, this is my ILLUSION of Venus.
http://img114.imageshack.us/img114/263/mycollagezi2.jpg


Regards,

The Punisher.

Paradise Eden link: http://theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=22446.msg458642#msg458642
Flat Earth link: http://theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=22393.0
Abyss link: http://theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=22517.msg461260#msg461260

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Paradise Eden, the Secret Garden, every religion and their leaders are blind to this knowledge of its whereabouts only those truly connected with GOD have a sense for it, for deep within WE all know it exists. According to governments who have lied to you your entire life with their satanic educational system puts Antarctica the south pole where it cannot be on Earth and under a sheet of ice, this inconsistent with scriptures, GOD created the seven circles read with more detail of Enoch's description.

2Enoch.27:[1]I made foundation of light around the water, and created seven circles from inside, and imaged the water like crystal wet and dry, that is to say like glass, and the circumcession of the waters.

1Enoch.76:[8]Seven great islands I saw in the sea and on the earth. Seven in the great sea.

For Enoch to have seen all seven, He saw them on the earth, He could never have seen Antarctica under a sheet of ice. So why the conspiracy? Well for one thing it provides equilibrium to the round Earth theory, and another more deceptive, ridicule intended towards us in rebellion against GOD. You see people the first time GOD descended was during the time Enoch and Noah walked the Earth, when Adam was still alive and outside of Eden, outside of Paradise.

Here is where the first of the Fallen angels began their second rebellion against GOD proxy Mankind, this section of the Earth has already been cleansed by the Deluge and need not be cleansed a second time whereby when GOD and HIS Mighty Angels will descend soon a second time. The Fallen angels with the intent to deceive created the illusion of this Pole, therewith capped Paradise Eden (off) where the righteous are headed with the illusion of ice mimicking GOD when creating the Earth capped (off) the North pole [abyss] destined for the unrighteous. Remember the South pole station lies on a sheet of ice near the Ice Wall surrounding the Earth not on Antarctica.

2Enoch.28:[2]Out of the waves I created rock hard and big, and from the rock I piled up the dry, and the dry I called earth, and the midst of the earth I called abyss.

The abyss is in the center of the Earth, the abyss is the North Pole and for the time being its nonoperational, its off (COLD). Paradise Eden is Antarctica, not where governments have stationed the south pole study groups, this is a masquerade to keep you in steady and prolonged dormant state so as for to never find your true self or destination.

1Enoch.64:[1]In those days Noah saw that the earth became inclined, and that destruction approached.[2]Then he lifted up his feet, and went to the ends of the earth, to the dwelling of his great-grandfather Enoch.

and went to the ends of the earth
and went to the ends of the earth
 
1Enoch.105:[7]When Mathusala heard the words of his son, he came to me at the extremities of the earth; for he had been informed that I was there: and he cried out.

he came to me at the extremities of the earth
he came to me at the extremities of the earth

The True Antarctica is Paradise Eden, it is situated near the Ice Wall like Australia is, there are seasons and life in True Antarctica, there lay the Tree of Life.

2Enoch.65:[6]There will be one aeon, and all the righteous who shall escape the LORD'S Great judgment, shall be collected in the Great aeon, for the righteous the Great aeon will begin, and they will live eternally, and then too there will be amongst them neither labour, nor sickness.

Just like the first rapture that took place on Earth where the "chosen" remembered the "Covenant of Noah's Ark" by remembering their Creator and were taken out of Egypt, I too remembered GOD, and there will come an aeon where a second rapture will occur before the Second Coming where the righteous who live in that aeon will be collected in that place.

This is us, to be just & righteous you must believe in GOD of this Book, not another, because what your reading comes from this Book, so when you hear other religions talking about this Rapture they won’t be included because they will not recognize this Book, the Covenant of Noah‘s Ark, True GOD.

2Enoch.65:[7]And they shall have a great indestructible wall, and a paradise bright and incorruptible, for all corruptible things shall pass away, and there will be eternal life.

a great indestructible wall, and a paradise
a great indestructible wall, and a paradise

The link doesn't show Antarctica as a pole nor as a continent, the Artist may have not been sure where exactly it lay, regardless, the Hidden Garden resides in that big empty ocean between South America and Australia.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v499/dogplatter/flatmap.jpg

2Enoch.66:[8]Blessed are the just who shall escape the great judgment, for they shall shine forth more than the sun sevenfold.

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Click on the link to get a quick visual, its old, but so is the Earth.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v499/dogplatter/flatmap.jpg

The Sun and Moon are the same size as I previously quoted from Enoch's book, the Sun rides a circle around the flat Earth by 6 different gates, I could only find this link that would give you a visual, it only contain 3 separating the seasons but you'll have a good idea.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c8/Flat_Earth_Seasons.svg

This link will show the reality of the Sun's journey.
http://earthdeception.googlepages.com/winter_solstice_pivato.jpg/winter_solstice_pivato-custom;size:640,277.jpg

As the Sun rides its path in a circle around the Earth when closer to the center the North pole receives only day-light during that period and we experience summer in North America, and when the Sun ventures further (the big circle) its light doesn’t reach the North pole and thereby experiences only night while we experience winter.

2Enoch.Chapter 48

[1]That the sun go along the seven heavenly circles, which are the appointment of one hundred and eighty-two thrones, that it go down on a short day, and again one hundred and eighty-two, that it go down on a big day.

[2]And thus it goes close to the earth, then the earth is glad and makes grow its fruits, and when it goes away, then the earth is sad, and trees and all fruits have no florescence.

North pole is actually in the center of the flat Earth and only in the "North pole" is the 6 months day/night possible, because in the South pole as we've been taught as Antarctica is a creation of science, the south pole station of Amundsen-Scott is located close to the Ice Wall surrounding the Earth and government funded to maintain this illusion. 

The North pole is the only place where 6 months of light and darkness can and has been documented, according to science if the Earth spun on her axis this could not take place. The link shows the North axis is tilted away from the Sun in Dec, thereby no day-light, and in June towards the Sun, thereby no nights, but in the March and Sept position the North axis gets half light/half night, under this failed THEORY the Earth is flat.
http://www.physicalgeography.net/fundamentals/images/seasons.jpg

Also, according to science theory of Earth, the Moon at some point would find herself between the Earth and Sun, this would mean that the waning and waxing crescents would only be seen in the day time, for when the Earth would spin on her axis turning away from the Sun you couldn't see the Moon's crescents, but you do, and you do at night.
http://home.hiwaay.net/~krcool/Astro/moon/moonphase/MoonAni.gif

If the Earth was round there would be flights cutting short the distances by going over the poles, click on these flight paths to discover what has been hidden from you.
http://www.airlineroutemaps.com/USA/img/FedEx.gif
http://www.airlineroutemaps.com/Latin_America/img/Aerolineas_Argentinas.jpg

As you will note no flights take place over the poles, you can't on flat Earth, for Asia to get to North America the quickest route would be to go over the North pole, but as you can see it flies around.
http://www.airlineroutemaps.com/West_Asia/Air_India.shtml

I will now explain why they don't fly over the North pole even on a flat Earth, but first I want to share with you the Flat Earth map attributed to a person named Wilbur Voliva by quoting Holy scriptures.

2Enoch. Chapter 27

[1]I made foundation of light around the water, and created seven circles from inside, and imaged the water like crystal wet and dry, that is to say like glass, and the circumcession of the waters and the other elements, and I showed each one of them its road, and the seven stars each one of them in its heaven, that they go thus, and I saw that it was good.

and imaged the water like crystal wet and dry, that is to say like glass
and imaged the water like crystal wet and dry, that is to say like glass

This is the ICE WALL you see around the flat Earth, the seven circles are the Continents.

Chapter 28

[1]And then I made firm the heavenly circle, and made that the lower water which is under heaven collect itself together, into one whole, and that the chaos become dry, and it became so.

[2]Out of the waves I created rock hard and big, and from the rock I piled up the dry, and the dry I called earth, and the midst of the earth I called abyss, that is to say the bottomless, I collected the sea in one place and bound it together with a yoke.

and the midst of the earth I called abyss
and the midst of the earth I called abyss

The abyss is where the Fallen Angels are heading, it is also the North pole and that for the time being GOD has capped it (off) with ice, the fallen angels when designing our world made it that when they would be flying around the globe they did not want to see the abyss as a reminder of where they'd be going so they carefully structured the paths around the North pole.

These Are The Days Of Noah.

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Flat Earth Q&A / IMPORTANT: Flat vs Round.
« on: August 18, 2008, 10:07:31 PM »
I believe the Earth is round, only stationed, I believe the Sun & Moon revolve around the Earth, but recently I'm bending towards it being flat because of scriptures and I would need some questions answered if there are answers.

1) How does the Sun revolve around a flat Earth for the poles 6 months light - night?

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FAQ:

Q: "Please explain sunrises/sunsets."

A: It's a perspective effect.  Really, the sun is just getting farther away; it looks like it disappears because everything gets smaller and eventually disappears as it gets farther away.

When I see the Sun set, I don't see it getting smaller if it were getting further away, I see it actually getting bigger and slipping a slice at a time into the Horizon, the portion that remains above the Horizon keeps its size. Explain?

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