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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Why is America so racist?
« on: May 07, 2021, 11:09:12 AM »
America is so racist that they wanted their own 'international film' to win an award (Minari). So get an American production and director to cast Koreans and speak some Korean in it and call it 'foreign language'. Of course, America being America had to have the entire movie set in and based around America. ::)

I guess they got pretty pissed when 'Parasite' cleaned the floor with them last time. Remember how Trump reacted got when South Korea dared get recognition for their efforts?

Also every time I want to look up the actors from foreign films such as in Asia, I find IMDB to be utterly useless. Barely any photos of the actors. Hardly anything written in the profiles. Incomplete movie credits and it goes on. A simple internet search of the actors name reveals so much about them it's clear if the actor isn't white and American, they just don't give an F.

I thought the 'I' in IMDB stood for 'International' I guess Americas idea of International is Canada. You really have no idea there is an entire world out there peopled with people that make better movies than you.

As for the awards, dump the 'foreign' shit altogether and allow each movie to be judged and capable of the same award based on its merits. After all, one mans foreign film is another mans domestic film.

This may mean that you guys don't win as many token awards anymore. So be it. (also deserved given Hollywood's tendency to make sequels no one asked for, reboots no one wants, shitty writing, predictable formula/plots, over reliance on CGI and political/woke crap the movie goers don't want to be lectured on by a bunch of privileged upper class morons)


Billionaire Elon Musk has offered inventors $US100 million ($129 million) on Earth Day to fight global warming by developing carbon dioxide removal technology for the "largest incentive prize in history".

Here's an idea. Plant some frigging trees and quit chopping them all down!

Another 'how do I get my name and fugly mug in the news' by Elon again

The Lounge / A heart warming story to put a smile on your face today
« on: April 20, 2021, 12:09:47 AM »

South African National Parks (SANParks) today, 18 April 2021 reported the death of a suspected poacher in the Kruger National Park (KNP) and the arrest of one accomplice which took place yesterday on 17 April. The deceased and his accomplices were fleeing from Rangers when they ran into a breeding herd of elephants.

Field Rangers were out on a routine patrol at the Phabeni area when they detected incoming spoor and made a follow up in pursuit of the suspects. Three individuals were spotted by the Rangers and attempted to run away, but Rangers requested backup from the Airwing and K9 unit. When they realised they had been spotted, the suspected poachers dropped an axe and a bag with their provisions in an attempt to escape from the rangers.

One of the suspects was arrested following assistance from the Airwing and K9 unit. The suspect informed the rangers that the group had run into a herd of elephants and was not sure if his accomplice had managed to escape. The Rangers discovered his accomplice badly trampled and unfortunately succumbed to his injuries. The third suspect is said to have been injured in the eye but continued to flee. A rifle was recovered and the case was referred to police, who together with the pathology team attended to the scene.


The drone, called Ingenuity, was airborne for less than a minute, but Nasa is celebrating what represents the first powered, controlled flight by an aircraft on another world.

Confirmation came via a satellite at Mars which relayed the chopper's data back to Earth.

The space agency is promising more adventurous flights in the days ahead.

Thought there would have been more hype about this but then realised 'oh its NASA, not Elon Musk' so this has clearly flown under most people's radars

Still, I could think of better ways to spend billions of dollars than to hover a drone for under a minute. A nice one only costs a couple of dollars and you can fly for much longer, do manoeuvres, go higher and faster. A few more dollars and you can get a nice camera that can take 4K+ quality videos and not the grainy shit from the one they sent to Mars

It's American tax dollars anyway. Glad my money isn't wasted on that nonsense

Technology, Science & Alt Science / Elon Musk kills another 2 people
« on: April 19, 2021, 05:07:28 AM »

Two men were killed in Texas after a Tesla they were in crashed on Saturday and caught fire with neither of the men behind the wheel, the authorities said.

Mark Herman, the Harris County Precinct 4 constable, said that physical evidence from the scene and interviews with witnesses led officials “to believe no one was driving the vehicle at the time of the crash.”

The vehicle, a 2019 Model S, was going at a “high rate of speed” around a curve at 11:25 p.m. local time when it went off the road about 100 feet and hit a tree, Constable Herman said. The crash occurred in a residential area in the Woodlands, an area about 30 miles north of Houston.

The men were 59 and 69 years old. One was in the front passenger seat and one in the rear seat, Constable Herman said.

He said that minutes before the crash, the men’s wives watched them leave in the Tesla after they said they wanted to go for a drive and were talking about the vehicle’s Autopilot feature.

Normally, I would say they were dickheads because they were not behind the wheel but in Teslas case, it is an advertised feature so this should have been 'OK'

I still dont understand the allure of Teslas or driverless cars in general. Take a damn bus if you dont want to do the driving. Why pay all that extra money but remove the whole experience and control of the vehicle and delegate it to a stupid computer chip?

Changing the gears, hearing the roar or purr of a motor. The WHOOSH of a BOV..... Man, why pay 10x the cost for a car that has zero noise and drives its self removing your control

My friend lives 1200km away. If I want to drive to see him, I could leave before breakfast and be there at dinner. I could do it all on a single tank of fuel as well (65L of diesel). Now if he wanted to see me, not only would he have to take a very scenic route to cater for special recharging stations so a much longer journey, if he left before breakfast he may arrive to me by lunch time the next day having to sleep a night somewhere. (unless he sleeps in the car that's accommodation cost added lol!) He better hope he's the only one using the charging stations otherwise it will be very slow to recharge. Where I can fill up in 5 minutes, he might be stuck for hours. And only to chug him maybe another 400km.

What a fucking waste of $250K. I paid $13K for mine. He brags 'haha, I dont have to pay for fuel'. LOL With the initial expense of $250K That's more than a 150 years worth of fuel cost compared to mine in 1 hit. Worst case I pay $1500 a year in fuel. And my car isn't so precious I need to bother with full insurance on it either. Another cost I'm sure he would have to do and would be quite costly lol

In short, Teslas are not only shitty death traps, but they are much slower to go long distance, are boring as hell and ridiculously expensive. Their environmental credentials are also questionable given the rare precious mineral of lithium required for mass production but I'm sure Elon doesn't mind 3rd world countries children helping to mine it for him

Arts & Entertainment / The Call
« on: April 14, 2021, 08:32:41 AM »
If you have not watched this science fiction thriller on Netflix then WTF are you doing!!??

Connected by phone in the same home but 20 years apart, a serial killer puts another woman's past -- and life -- on the line to change her own fate.

Now I know some people absolutely loathe foreign movies where they have to read subtitles. But for Gods sake, do the very talented actors what they deserve and listen to their stunning performances and not some overly tacky horrible English dub. For a laugh I redid a scene in the English dub and my God it was cringe worthy awful bad

You will not regret watching this! I am flabbergasted why Korean movies are not more popular given the shite that is Hollywood these days.

So some guy, totally drunk, on drugs and going over 80km/h over the speed limit here, mows down 7 kids walking for ice cream. 4 dead, another left in critical condition for months and what sentence do you think he gets?

He'll be out in 21 years minimum (full sentence 28 years) . Is a child's life really worth not much more than 5 years? Less if you consider his traffic offenses (driving drunk, on drugs and speeding) as well as the injuries inflicted on the others.

WTF is wrong with Australia? God damn a life should be worth more than this. This is probably 'concurrent sentencing' at work. The biggest croc of shit in the justice system that ever existed.

I imagine in America he'd be put away for the remainder of his miserable life.

God bless America. And damn Australia to hell! >:(

The Lounge / Australia is like setting life's difficulty to Extreme
« on: March 23, 2021, 06:57:29 PM »
Raging bushfires one year, torrential downpour and floods the next. And if that wasn't enough, we get among the most deadly spiders and snakes you can find in your backyard or house

So these floods have caused thousands of spiders to scramble looking for higher ground.

They were always among us, now we just see the extent

Snakes, Crocodiles and sharks are warned about in flood waters too. When someone is born in Australia, God must be thinking 'So, you have chosen death'

Literally the fire devastation just last year

Arts & Entertainment / RIP Cliff Simon
« on: March 12, 2021, 05:40:46 PM »

Actor Cliff Simon, best known for his portrayal of the villain Ba’al on the sci-fi series Stargate SG-1, has died in a tragic kiteboarding accident. He was 58.

Simon, who previously taught windsurfing and waterskiing, died on Tuesday March 9 at Topanga Beach, California.

His wife Colette confirmed the news in a statement on Facebook in which she shared her “unimaginable heartbreak”.

“He was known to most of you on this page as the villain you loved to hate, Ba’al, from Stargate SG-1,” she wrote.

“But, as he said, ‘Acting is what I do, it’s only a part of who I am.’ And he was SO much more – a true original, an adventurer, a sailor, swimmer, dancer, actor, author. There is a gaping hole where he once stood on this earth. He was loved by too many to mention and had a great impact on so many lives.

“A small saving grace to this tragedy is that he was doing one of the things he loved most and passed away on the beach near the water, which was his temple.”

A former athlete and veteran, Simon also made guest appearances in series like NCIS: Los Angeles, Days of Our Lives, The Americans and Criminal Minds: Beyond Borders.

One of the coolest and most memorable Gua'ulds. Ba'al. I don't think there are any clones of him left. Thanks a lot SG1 >:(

RIP Cliff

The Lounge / The damn semi colon key
« on: March 12, 2021, 06:56:19 AM »
I have to ask.... Does anyone else have the problem whenever they want to use an apostrophe, they end up tapping the semi colon key instead? So you end up typing words like can;t, don;t instead of can't, don't etc?

I think a few years ago my work changed the keyboard and my 'muscle memory' still wont adapt to the different spacing? I don't know. I know I never used to have this issue

Does anyone else do this?

I know, first world problem and all ::)

Philosophy, Religion & Society / Curfew on men!
« on: March 12, 2021, 12:51:31 AM »

The UK wants to put a curfew on men disallowing them to be outdoors after 6pm

This call for a curfew isn't coming from some loon trolling for shits and giggles. It's coming from the UK Parliament

   This evening I threatened in the House of Lords to bring an amendment to next appropriate Bill to impose a 6pm curfew on men on streets. #SarahEverard
    — Jenny Jones (@GreenJennyJones) March 10, 2021

Not even sure how this would work or be legal..... I mean, discriminating against an entire sex on the basis of their gender? Curbing their freedom of movement. Probably a human rights violation right there. Not to mention the massive damage to the economy that may hit night life areas given they are not permitted to be out after 6pm

Imagine being a boy growing up being told that because you are male, you are toxic, violent and will probably rape people one day. What would that do to their self worth? Maybe they will think that is the expectation of them. or maybe the goal is to get them all to trans to women??

99+% of men are civilized good people. Whilst there is an issue around violence against women and the perpetrators being mostly men, we need men to be part of the solution. Not told they are all a problem and lock them away

Also not sure why women get so offended when they are told to be mindful of their safety. I should be free to walk down dark crime ridden alleyways without the fear of being mugged but I don't walk down them because I'm playing it safe. Even when I'm walking alone to my car at night, I wont take 'short cuts' if there is no lighting or people/traffic. I'll even hold my car keys in a manner I could stab someone if they wanted to mug me. If you know there is a potential of danger in your area where you like to jog or have to walk, taking precautions to mitigate the risk is sound advice. Locking men away is not an answer. And it is certainly not a solution

Suggestions & Concerns / Weeding out the inactive spambot members
« on: March 11, 2021, 08:33:22 AM »
If you check this out members on this forum, you can clearly see all the spam bots. No one uses Yahoo anymore and if you hover over the web link icon, you can see that almost all of them are just spam promoting adult websites or the like;sort=registered;start=0;desc

Also note that almost all the new members that joined in the last few months have 0 posts

I don't know if there is a script you could run which removes a member if they still have 0 posts after a set time. It would remove many of the bots that are connected with the site

Philosophy, Religion & Society / Social credit scores
« on: March 02, 2021, 11:49:25 AM »
How would you guys feel for a social credit scoring system like that in China? Jaywalking? Lose points. Litter? Lose points? Being a dick? Lose points

A loss of points may bar you from going on public transport or certain entertainment or other facilities and the like. However if you think about how this could be applied it would require neighbours to dob you in or massive levels of CCTV cameras with very good facial recognition technology which some people may find uneasy

Also if there is no reward or incentive to do a good deed, those that do are doing so because it's from the heart. They do it because they are nice. If you incentivize doing good deeds, you may not be helping that old lady cross the street because you're a nice guy, you're only doing it because you want something in return. People would just look so fake and shallow - regardless of noble intentions.

In some ways, I don't mind the idea. Sure there's the creepy CCTV and facial recognition tech but don't many people give away all their information on social media anyway? And looking at how society is trending these days, perhaps we should be incentivizing people to do good things for one another, even if the motivation is ultimately selfish

The Lounge / Cinnabun coming to Australia
« on: February 26, 2021, 02:10:51 AM »

I first heard if these in the movie 'Daddy's Home' with Mark Wahlberg

Are they really that good? Or does Costco do pretty much the same thing with their offerings

Philosophy, Religion & Society / Coca-Cola: Try to be less white
« on: February 23, 2021, 08:40:49 AM »
Coca-Cola has been accused of reverse racism after a training video for its employees told them to “try to be less white”.

The soft drink giant has been slammed for the racial discrimination training after a disgruntled employee shared it on social media and it went viral.

The training seminar was shared on LinkedIn with slides that featured tips on how “to be less white”, including being “less ignorant,” and “less oppressive”.

Where do you even find the words anymore??

Philosophy, Religion & Society / You’ll Own Nothing and You’ll Be Happy
« on: February 14, 2021, 09:03:50 PM »

Klaus Schwab was born in Nazi Germany in 1938. Little information is available as to his upbringing – i.e., the degree to which he was educated to believe in Nazi doctrine – but whatever he was taught in his youth, he is, today, one of the most ardent believers in, and proponents of, totalitarian rule.

The term “Nazi” refers to Nationalsozialistisch, or “National Socialism,” and its overall concept was fascism – a concept that encompassed a corporatist economic system, socialist political system and totalitarian rule.

Whilst this description may seem rather convoluted, the concept was believed by Wall Street and much of the US government in the 1930s as the way of the future. So much so that they provided considerable financial and logistical support for Nazi Germany during the 1930s and even into the 1940s.

Following the war, only a handful of Germans were prosecuted for war crimes at the Nuremburg trials. Countless others were taken on board by both US industry and the government following the war, to educate American industry in German methodology.

For many years following the war, Nazi concepts remained under the radar, but in recent years, they’ve become a major force within not only the US, but also US ally states: Canada, Australia, the UK and, most notably, the EU.

The basic concepts are perennial in their attraction to those who seek to dominate:

1) Create an uber class of those who are highly positioned in both industry and politics.

2) Cripple the middle class economically, so that they no longer have the power to make their own life decisions.

3) Offer dramatically increased dependency on the State as a relief from the economic hardship created by the state.

4) Remove freedoms, in trade for the promise of largesse from the State.

5) Institute a police state and totalitarian rule to ensure that the new paradigm will be lasting.

6) Once controls are fully implemented and the populace has become dependent on the new system, begin to remove the promised entitlements.

The idea behind this final bullet point is that, once the population is thoroughly dependent upon the state, they will have lost the power to object or rebel if entitlements are removed. They are then fully dominated.

Of course, if any individual were to read the above menu, he would immediately say, “No way!” and reject the programme outright. Therefore, if such an oppressive regime were to be imposed upon a people, it would need to be sold to them as a benefit, not as virtual enslavement.

Adolf Hitler was proud of saying, “Make the lie big. Keep it simple. Keep saying it and eventually, they will believe it.”

Quite so. Fortunately, Mister Hitler and his friends were removed from the firmament before the final stages of the programme could be implemented.

But today, the jurisdictions listed above are now solidly in the completion stage of bullet point #2 and have begun to provide the offer of bullet point #3: the promised solution to the populace.

And so, we return to our poster boy for totalitarianism: Klaus Schwab.

His fame has been earned through his creation and chairmanship of the World Economic Forum (WEF). Over the last half century, the WEF has grown in influence to become one of the foremost leaders in the proposition of a New World Order.

As with Mister Hitler, in order to sell Totalitarianism 201 to the people of the countries in question, the technique once again is to “Make the lie big.”

Professor Schwab’s video offers an idyllic state in which people can rid themselves of all the personal debt, the political upheaval and the social unrest that is now expanding so rapidly.

The proposed solution is that you sign over your right to own possessions on a permanent basis, in trade for a life in which there is minimal responsibility. The world government will provide you with a basic income. You will rent whatever you need – a residence, a vehicle, appliances, even your clothing.

Most importantly, as can be seen from the countenance of the citizen in the image above, you’ll be happy.

There will be no more wars. A “handful of countries” will rule the world cooperatively. There will be no waiting for medical attention. “There will be a global price on carbon” emissions. (This states that those who use fossil fuels – everyone – will be taxed for its use, although no explanation is given as to how this keeps the world from ending in twelve years due to emissions, as globalists claim.)

The government will have full control of every aspect of your life, plus the task of removing any obstacles to your happiness.

Sounds wonderful. Where do I sign up?

But if we stop and think for a moment, we might wish to ask a few questions.

For one thing, you give up all rights at the beginning of the deal. You will have lost all your possessions and all your freedoms. You will be 100% dependent upon the state. Their part of the deal is to be delivered on the back end.

But once you’re totally dependent and can no longer extricate yourself from the deal, there’s nothing to stop them from removing the punch bowl… Oh-oh.

All the things that were promised may be withdrawn one at a time, until you’re both subservient and impoverished. You will lack the ability to rebel or even to complain.

For generations, political leaders have offered empty promises that were never kept. Conservative and liberal political leaders alike have consistently made a grand show of disagreeing with each other on what form of governance might serve the people best. Yet, somehow, the result, no matter which group theoretically holds the reins of power at any given time, has always been a larger, more powerful government and a populace that was increasingly robbed of its freedoms – social, political and economic.

We are now at the very turning point at which much of the former Free World is being tempted to make the leap into the “Brave New World.”

All the social, political and economic problems that presently exist have been caused by political leaders. They are now asking you to trust them to end those problems.

The promise is a simple one: You’ll own nothing. And you’ll be happy.

But you’re not required to sign up. All you need do is sit still and accept the transformation to totalitarianism as it plays out.

Nothing could be simpler.

Editor’s Note: There’s no question the elite are eager to promote policies like negative interest rates, the abolition of cash, and mass migration. These trends are in motion, and are accelerating at a rapid rate.

It’s all shaping up to be a world-class disaster… one unlike anything we’ve seen before.

So is our economy based on Nazi Germany ideals? Wall Street supported them and following the war we took them in to educate us in their ways?

I'm thinking 2030 is a little soon short of something radical happening but I would not be surprised if this ideal is someone's endgame

If those in charge were benevolent, maybe we could see a future like Star Trek, where money no longer exists, but as we know, power corrupts and history has not shown us any politician regardless whether they be left or right to keep their promises.

I mean in theory the concept is ok. Perhaps like in China you get a social score and a higher score = more entitlements and privileges which is what will motivate people to work. It might also mean we don't become a throw away society buying new gadgets every few months, throwing away perfectly good tech etc

What do you think? Would you be happy to 'own nothing', not even the clothes on your back if it meant everyone could live with a roof over their head and full bellies? Or continue with capitalism which segregates us into classes where many are either impoverished, homeless, starving, slaves to debt for most of their lives with only 1-2% actually being 'free' and in control of the masses.

Philosophy, Religion & Society / Cancel culture
« on: January 27, 2021, 09:57:17 AM »

This guy is great.

Society is seeing a rise in things or people getting cancelled. Is it disturbing? Is it OK in some aspects? What's something or someone that has been cancelled that you agree with

For example when popular celebrities start tweeting NAZI shit or telling millions of followers that vaccines cause autism or that 5G causes cancer etc - is it good to 'cancel' them? Destroy their credibility and for TV networks to tear up contracts and ban them from appearing again? Do we hold influential celebrities to a high standard then a pleb?

Also shout out to anyone who has been cancelled you believe undeservedly so

You can change your vote so if I've missed your point of view or the ones I've put up feel too loaded let me know and I can fix it

Philosophy, Religion & Society / The Great Gender Bender Debate
« on: January 26, 2021, 01:00:38 AM »
So here is the official Flat Earth Societies great Gender Bender poll

I've put a bunch of statements down and you can choose up to 3 if you feel there is more than 1 you agree with. Or just 1 if that's enough.

If the above statements feel too loaded or I've missed your particular point of view or feeling, let me know and I'll add it. You are free to change your votes so no worries there

I'm thinking this is a subject that deserves its own thread so here it is :) Play nice!


Microsoft’s recent filing of a US patent for the creation of what it describes as a ‘conversational chatbot of a specific person’ has given rise to media speculation over how the boffins at Redmond will build on the blueprint.

The patent (No. 10,853,717 B2, dated December 01 2020) conceptualizes technology that would access ‘social data’ about that specific person, such as images, voice data, social media posts, emails and other authored documentation, that would instil personality and inform conversations between the bot and a live human.

‘In some aspects,’ the patent abstract continues, ‘a 2D or 3D model of a specific person may be generated using images, depth information, and/or video associated with the specific person’.

How this could all come together is outlined at length in the remainder of the patent’s 21 pages. An AI component is not specified in detail, but it’s hard to imagine such a concept could function without some AI to breathe life into it, so to speak.

Meanwhile, the patent and the possibilities its successful realization would deliver, have prompted some searching responses from online media commentators.

Barry Collins at Forbes reckons Microsoft’s patent “raises the intriguing possibility of digitally reincarnating people as a chatbot”. It’s an idea that also “raises all manner of privacy implications that aren’t discussed in the patent,” Collins continued. “Will people be given the right to opt out of such a system, for example? Would the relatives of the dead be able to prevent others from turning their deceased loved ones into chatbots?”

Collins added: “Such questions are, of course, moot until Microsoft – or someone else – delivers a working prototype. But it might not be the case for much longer that your personality dies with you.”

Andrew Paul at Input reckons the patent’s scope “sounds like Microsoft hopes to better improve its customer service chatbots, as well as future AI assistance along the lines of Alexa, Siri or its own Cortana”. However, Paul found the implications for this kind of hyper-specific, digitalized personality mimicry as varied as they are unsettling: “Aside from the very obvious creepiness of a deceased loved one reading you Waze directions to the nearest Chipotle from beyond the grave, the idea of conversational AI based on an amalgamation of your tweets, Facebook posts, and text messages, coupled with voice mimicry, could usher in a whole new era of cyber-fraud and ‘identity’ theft.”

Tyler Lee, writing at Ubergizmo, agrees: “By using AI and feeding it information, it could lead to next-generation levels of identity theft. We admit that it might be a bit nostalgic to be able to ‘talk’ to a dead loved one online where the chatbot can mimic that person realistically, but it still feels kind of weird – and a little bit wrong.”

What do you guys think? Would you be happy for your loved ones to be able to turn you into some freaky chatbot based on your online data?

What if your online activities consisted of only LARPing or trolling I dunno, being a Flat Earth believer or something. I dunno, I see the idea as totally shit. People have their real life persona and an online persona. I mean, you could kind of do a hack job right now. Voice capture/synthesizer, a 3D photo of your head, and (as plenty of people do), rip the information from their SwiftKey app. Done.

The Lounge / RIP Larry King
« on: January 23, 2021, 07:37:06 AM »
Covid claims another victim >:(
Larry King, the legendary American television and radio host, has died at the age of 87.

He passed away on Saturday morning (local time) at Cedars-Sinai Medical Center in Los Angeles, after receiving treatment for coronavirus, The Sun reports.

The tragic news was announced on Larry’s official Twitter page.

King was hospitalised shortly before Christmas after testing positive for coronavirus.

His iconic career spanned more than six decades - but the host suffered with Type 2 diabetes and from lung cancer, angina and heart attacks in recent years.

A statement from his representatives said: “With profound sadness Ora Media announces the death of our co-founder, host and friend Larry King, who passed away this morning at age 87 at Cedars-Sinai Medical Center in Los Angeles.

Philosophy, Religion & Society / Google threatens Australia with ban
« on: January 21, 2021, 09:21:56 PM »

Google says it will have no choice but to make Google Search unavailable in Australia if the government succeeds in implementing its new media code, which will force big tech companies to pay for Australian news content.

In a massive escalation of its opposition, Google Australia and New Zealand managing director Mel Silva said the trillion-dollar US firm would no longer allow Australians to use its search engine if the government enacted the news media bargaining code as proposed.

It is the first clear threat from Google in response to the laws.

Aww the poor trillion dollar corporate tax dodgers are asked to pay for the news content it rips from the internet

To hell with them. Hope out government tells them to just fuck off then. Can just use the yahoo search engine instead. At least that one has this fine society on the first page of search results 8)

So here are your 2024 candidates (I went ahead and checked). Curious to know which one of these people you would like to see as a potential President (even if you'd never vote repugnican, you can still vote who out of this list you would find would be the least detestable and more professional). Joe Biden or Kamala Harris may lose and if so, who here would you be most comfortable with

You'll notice Donald Trump is not on the list despite current chatter that he will run again. That's because when word came out that there was a very real possibility he was going to spend the rest of his life in jail and not have a golden toilet to shit in, he fled America

Philosophy, Religion & Society / The attack on 'free speech'
« on: January 13, 2021, 10:49:20 PM »
I've always hated social media and personally couldn't give a damn if Facebook or Twitter were removed entirely. I think society would probably be better off

However this debate around free speech being attacked.... It's nonsense. You join these companies adhering to their terms of service. If you violate their rules, they don't have to have you

It's also fair enough when say Twitter is being used as a megaphone for sedition, violence and upheavel that damages the brand and erodes the very society these people live in that they want to take action. Of course if you're as loud, vocal and hateful as Trump, you are going to draw ire

Trump has not been silenced. He just doesn't have access to a platform that he doesn't own anymore. Even if he made his own servers and his own platform, he still couldn't do the shit he's been doing. Mainly because hate speech and inciting violence is a crime

Free speech has never been free because it comes with responsibility

It's also quite frustrating and literally being an existential threat to see constant disinformation campaigns touted as facts. And truth slammed as 'fake news'. It's about time these companies did take action and label people's posts as BS when it counts

Also I don't get Trumps threat of this 'Article 230'thing as if that would make' free speech' better

Currently, Twitter and Facebook enjoy not being legally liable for content users say on their platforms. Personally I'm with Trump if he wants to remove that protection though. It would absolutely make these companies accountable for the damage their platforms are causing and be much quicker to remove cyber bullying and disinformation etc but what of Trump? How would he have been better off? Twitter/Facebook etc would have banned him long ago due to the risk he would pose

Also I think the Trumps and Trumpers should really know their own constitution. The first amendment does not apply to companies like Twitter or Facebook and it shouldn't. Or do repugnicans want government tentacles reaching and regulating everything in our society?

The Lounge / Aussie wildlife
« on: January 08, 2021, 01:35:35 AM »
Australia is well known for its dangerous, odd looking and deadly wildlife. Sometimes you wake up to find a kangaroo has broken into your home and trying to beat the crap out of you. Or the mutant mammal Platypus that lays eggs, has venomous heel spurs, senses electricity and under UV light, can glow blue/green. Some of the deadliest spiders, the deadliest snakes, the stupidest animal (Koala)

And sometimes you might see this poking through your ceiling:

The Lounge / Worst game of 2020
« on: January 01, 2021, 11:34:29 PM »

LOL  8)

Flat Earth General / Which one of you trolls is responsible for this!?
« on: January 01, 2021, 10:26:34 PM »

Thoughty2 YouTube channel trashing the Flat Earth beliefs and origins

I bet it's someone from the UK who's been trolling here a while. Speak up!

Arts & Entertainment / Grinding
« on: December 09, 2020, 10:32:34 PM »
Who likes the grinding aspect on video games? Like collecting resources or doing monotonous tasks to level up?

I had a really good idea that skips all that

Came into the room to find my 7 year old playing 'No Man's Sky' and he's having fun going from planet to planet just killing things and collecting resources. To him, that's the fun of the game. Then when I get to the game, I can get to doing the fun stuff.

On a few other games he's racked up enough points to unlock various items and maps/levels etc

Thanks son!

So if you hate spending hours of your precious time grinding on stupid crap, just get your kids to do it. 8)

Philosophy, Religion & Society / BLM - protestors, rioters and looters
« on: November 03, 2020, 03:03:52 AM »
This kind of gives insight into how down and out black people in America feel and the why

She makes a good and compelling point. Honestly, more power to their cause.

Philosophy, Religion & Society / What is America?
« on: October 26, 2020, 01:39:24 AM »
So what system of government does America enjoy?

Philosophy, Religion & Society / Why do you support Amy Coney Barrett?
« on: September 27, 2020, 03:16:44 PM »
So this is Trumps pick for a supreme court justice. Are you okay with her? What about her will make her a good justice? Will her personal views guide her decisions? Will she be impartial? Or is she carefully chosen to stack the court to ensure a repugnicans agenda is met for decades to come

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