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Flat Earth Debate / Conspiracy

« on: April 24, 2017, 11:56:16 AM »

Ok, the whole flat earth theory rests on one simple "theory".  That is that NASA and everybody else who say the world is a round, has to be lying to all of us.  If they are in fact not lying, then the earth is round, as NASA and every scientist in the world claims.  So FE believers, do you have any real evidence that NASA, other space agencies, and every country on earth is lying to us about the shape of the earth? Or will you just actually admit that you are all a bunch of trolls pulling our legs?

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Flat Earth Debate / Question for round earthers

« on: March 31, 2017, 01:57:01 PM »

I have to ask some round earthers:  Do you think that those who claim that the earth is flat really believe it, or are they just messing around?  They claim to be free-thinkers, but they hold onto their ideas like a toddler holds onto candy.  "If I close my eyes and scream, maybe everybody will leave me alone!" I don't post much, just like to read what is being discussed.  And I have yet to hear a intelligent argument that can be backed up.  I have never seen anybody become convinced that they were wrong and believe the earth is round.  Or is this all one big joke and everybody is really just making fun of this idea?  Or just a exercise in debate?

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Flat Earth Debate / Sailing west becomes east???

« on: March 28, 2017, 11:06:20 AM »

Ok, so assume I want to sail (or fly) around the earth, and I head out west.  According to to FET I will eventually get turned around and will circle the earth on a flat, limited plane.  But as I head out west, the sun rises at my back, but if I get turned around, the sun will rise in my face.  Just look at their explanations of how people circumnavigate the planet.  But how come this doesn't actually happen?  When anybody circumnavigates the earth, the sun always sets and rises in the same direction.  Can anyone explain that one?

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Flat Earth Debate / Proof of the firmament/ice wall guards

« on: January 20, 2017, 01:57:12 PM »

So why hasn't there ever been any proof of the firmament?  What about all of those people guarding the ice wall in Antarctica?  Surely these things must be true, so how come nobody has ever seen it?  I thought FEers only believed in things that they can see, but they believe in that?

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Flat Earth Debate / Proof

« on: January 17, 2017, 09:44:20 AM »

This is my first post.  I have been reading posts on this site for about a month, and find it hard to believe people actually believe in flat earth.  I honestly believed when I first started "researching" this, that this was purely an exercise for debating.  I understand there are trolls out there, and I am not concerned about them.  If FE is what you truly believe, I won't mock you, but I just would like to hear some actual proof.  And citing lines and lines of math and physics info won't help me, I am neither an expert in either.  I am fairly educated, four year degree in accounting.  So I think it is fair to say I am of average intelligence, but by no means will I understand over the top explanations of something I feel is so basic.  And please don't tell me because of religious ideas or it is so because that is what the bible says.  That is not proof, that is faith.  Big difference.  I am a Christian, and I believe the earth is round.  And before and round earthers come out to mock me and how stupid I must be to believe in God, it is irrelevant.  My beliefs are my beliefs and have nothing to do with this discussion.  But if it makes you feel better, I don't believe the earth was created 4000 years ago in seven days.  I believe things are created scientifically, by the hand of God.  I don't believe God and Science are incompatible.  But stating the earth is flat because that is what the bible says, is not proof.  At best, it is evidence.  And please don't tell me that the Nazis were involved in NASA, so therefore, anything that NASA say is a lie.  One, that is not proof either.  And second, using this logic, has any of you ever told a lie?  If that is the case, than anything you say can't be trusted either. 

Sorry, a long intro, but somebody give me some actual proof.  Because, I have not seen any on this sight.  And here is the dictionary definition of proof:
   

Definition of proof

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    a :  the cogency of evidence that compels acceptance by the mind of a truth or a factb :  the process or an instance of establishing the validity of a statement especially by derivation from other statements in accordance with principles of reasoning