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Flat Earth General / Globe earth Q&A
« on: February 16, 2023, 12:43:36 PM »
In my lurking I have found that a lot of arguments for FE stem from a misunderstanding of how the heliocentric globe model works. So, curious flat-earthers or people that are undecided, please feel free to ask any questions you have about the globe model here!

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The Lounge / I'm back b*tches
« on: February 10, 2023, 02:42:12 PM »
I have been active on this forum some 8 years ago, some of the old folks (heiwa, jeranism, sandokhan, ...) may still remember me, if they are still active. At some point life caught up to me and I did not have free time to spend on this forum. In the meantime I have managed to pursue a dream of mine and did a PhD in astrophysics; my time on this forum actually had some impact on that decision, so if anyone still remembers, thank you for the discussions! I have recently seen the documentary 'behind the curve', which actually features some of the people here, so I decided to check whether y'all still exist.

That being said, your model can go kick rocks. I am sure you will not believe me, since now I am part of the paid shill scientists, but let me say a few words regarding academia: First off, our pay is by far not good enough to ensure silence. I was earning 1300 euros per month during my PhD living in Germany, and literally all of my friends who left academia after their master's make twice my salary. I have now talked to hundreds of astrophysicists, from students to professors, and so far I could not detect a single whiff of a conspiracy regarding the shape of the earth. Also, while there is a large collaborative spirit, disproving something that is widely accepted is the white whale of most scientists that I talked to, I doubt they would wait very long if they had conclusive evidence that our solar system model is wrong.

Our model of the Universe is _incredibly_ successful, and has been long before anyone even thought about space travel. For example, general relativity was detected because the orbit of mercury deviates by 0.01 degrees in 100 years (!) from the predictions of newtonian gravity. The planet Neptune was discovered because the orbit of Uranus showed some deviations that could only be explained by the existence of another planet. And even regarding the Universe: Right now we are having a 'crisis in cosmology', because one of the values of our Model deviates by 5%, depending on whether we measure how it was 300.000 years after the big bang vs now (~14 billion years after big bang). Compare that to a model that can not even explain sunsets, or distances on half of the earth.

I have conducted observations of galaxies myself, and seen many of our telescopes with my own eyes. I have yet to find any inconsistency in the data that could arise from it being fabricated. All things considered, your model, with all the assumptions that go into it, including a worldwide conspiracy where hundreds of thousands of people of all factions (including nazi germany, the soviet union and the USA) just decide to not say anything without having skin in the game or being rewarded for their silence in a meaningful way, is utterly ridiculous. The one rebuttal 'but it looks flat' is very, very weak, considering the mountains of evidence.

Just my 2 cents.

Stay safe, everyone! :)

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Where do babies come from?
« on: July 26, 2017, 04:41:52 AM »
Dear members of this forum:

Inspired by the threads about the existence of airplanes and the morality of oral sex I, too, decided to do some research, and I might have stumbled upon a conspiracy of an extent noone will believe.

As everyone on this forum by now probably ‘knows’, a baby is sometimes created during sex and then born by the mother 9 months later. Everyone learnt this ‘fact’ at some point in their life, either by their parents or in school. You all accept it and have probably never questioned it in your life. So what if I tell you now that sex itself is the biggest conspiracy that was ever created?

Yes, it is debated in school, in some schools there are even special classes (‘sex ed’), but this is all a huge conspiracy planted by the government and the freemasons!

Of course, there are thousands of pictures and videos showing sexual acts on the internet (I refuse to post links but I am sure most of you have seen at least some). I have studied many of those extensively, sometimes several times a day. After all this research, I can conclude that the videos are an utter fake! First of all, the story ranges from hard to believe to ridiculous (why do you get into a taxi when you know that you can not pay?). That is when I started to dig around. Dr. Brendan Zietsch states here that the average duration of a sexual act is about 7 minutes. This time was beaten in every movie I have seen, often lasting about 45 minutes.

But with this huge amout of pictures and videos on the internet, there must have been some leaks, you might say. Guess what: there are!
There are several leaked lists (see i.e. here) of members participating in this movies that actually are hollywood actors! Think about that! Hollywood involved in the creation of those movies! How can we ever believe them?

But the rabbit hole goes even deeper. I have asked around, and most of my friends claim to have had sex at least once, many even claimed to do it on a regular basis. Out of all the people I have asked, many close friends of mine, no one, not a single one agreed to let me personally verify their claims. On the contrary, I earned extremely confusing looks and the person quickly tried to change the topic. So how far does this conspiracy span, when even my closest friends are part of it?

I read a study where 13-year old male students were interviewed about their ‘sex life’ in front of their friends. All of them claimed to ‘have sex all the time’, but when asked again with their friends absent most admitted that they had lied. The government has played a very tricky game with us, my friends: By dictating social status partly by sexual activity they have forced us to lie in front of and to our friends and thus, unknowingly and unwillingly, be part of the conspiracy and help to keep it running.

But, if all the tales are false, where do babies come from? In many cultures, originating from the ancient greeks, a stork bringing babies is a powerful myth, recently even a movie was created touching this topic. While this story does not completely convince me, there has to be a true core to that.

‘But why?’ you might ask. Why plant a giant conspiracy? First of all, there is some money involved. Every teenager has condoms lying around that he will never use, for example. But the real reason goes deeper. It is control, absolute control.
Think about it: We have convinced women to daily ingest pills that, as a fact, alter their body and change their moods. And these are just the effects we know of, who knows what else they do? All of this out of fear to get a baby through sex. And this is just the tip of the iceberg!
In our teenage years, most (if not all) thoughts about decisions are ‘will this help me get laid?’. This focus on sexual activeness is certainly most present there, but it spans throughout all ages. Think about it: ‘Virgin’ is a huge insult, sexual activeness is related to success and high social status. Some scientists even argue that the final reason behind every of our decisions is the wish to get laid (those scientists are mostly male, by the way). Instead of working towards a better future for all of us, we hunt an ideal that is nonexistent! How convenient for the freemasons!

I think they are on to me. A few days ago, in a bar, I was approached by a girl that clearly hinted that she wanted to have sex with me. As soon as I asked her if she was paid by the government to do so, she became very uncomforable and immediately left. If I stop posting in the next few days, you know they have me.

I do not expect to fully convince you with a single post. I just want you to ask yourselfes: How many hours of your life have you done something hoping you will get rewarded with sex? Could you not have spent these hours in working towards a better future for all of us? Have you ever personally seen two people having sex? Just do your research and you will find out the truth!

PS: There are probably even many paid shills here who will now claim to have had sex many times. DO NOT TRUST THEM!

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Flat Earth General / How to convince yourself in three easy steps
« on: March 22, 2017, 04:13:09 AM »
1. Download and install Stellarium
2. Enter your location, a time and date
3. Observe the sky and compare it with the animated one in Stellarium

Bonus task: Keep in mind that stellarium is an open source program calculating the positions of stars using a spherical earth. If necessary, take an arbitrary star and calculate its position yourself, see that it gets the same result.

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Hey,

as promised, I performed a rough estimate on the mechanics involving a lunar transfer orbit. A more detailed, numerical calculation might follow in the next few days.

Heiwa, this should clear up that it is definitely possible to get to the moon (I admit that the actual orbit around the moon can not be calculated with this method, for this there will be the numerical integrator which might come later) and that you should never boost towards the moon. If you find any errors, please point them out.

Generally I would love if someone double-checked my math, the numbers do make sense but still..

The document can be found at https://www.docdroid.net/nSZ6vXb/moon.pdf.html

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Flat Earth General / To all religious flat earthers
« on: December 02, 2016, 03:23:31 AM »
Okay, this goes out to all flat earthers who believe in a flat earth because of their religion/scripture.

You argue that RE'ers were indoctrinated and simply believe what they are told, without having any prove. They simply believe the outcome of experiments just because they are told that they worked that way without ever performing a single experiment themselfes or performing their own observations.

Now someone (most likely your parents) come over and tell you that there is a big man in the sky (not to be taken literally) who is almighty, created the world and us and their evidence is a 1700 year old book.

I am curious to what proofs you have of god or what makes you think that he exists. And if you have performed own obervations or if you believe it because you were told to.

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Flat Earth Debate / Gravity on an infinite plane
« on: May 25, 2016, 08:21:38 AM »
I was bored and did some math regarding John Davis' approach of an infinite plane. Since I don't know how to embed formulas here, I uploaded a PDF. https://www.docdroid.net/abhC8KU/infplane.pdf.html
Feel free to debate/criticize/point out errors.

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The Lounge / New here
« on: May 03, 2016, 02:56:22 AM »
Hey,

I came to this site via a youtube-video and have been lurking in this forum for a while. At first, I was astonished by the fact that there are still people who believe that the earth is flat. Then I realized that you do have a valid point - I did never question the shape of the earth, I believed it was spherical as I was taught. That does not change the fact that it is, indeed, spherical, but the idea of questioning established models and looking for alternatives is quite interesting to me.
I finally registered, because I had some nagging questions about your model and noone posted them before (or at least I could not find them).
About myself - I am a 24 year old student writing my master's thesis in mathematics (minor physics). My main field of study is (algebraic) topology, but if you want to discuss dynamical systems or differential geometry, I'm all yours.
I do not hope to convince any flat-earther on this forum (if you do believe in a flat earth despite all evidence and obervations already explained in other posts, I will not be able to convince you), but I enjoyed reading the discussions and I hope to have even more fun participating in them.

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