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The sun never 'sets' on a flat earth. It goes out of view due to perspective. To calculate the height of the sun, you need to use the below math to take this fact into account.

Bust out excel.  Enter the following:

[C3] Type in Angle Starting with 89 going down to 1 [/C91]
[D3] =90-C3 [/D91]
[E3] =(40000/360)*(90-C3)[/E91]
[F3] =(40000/360)*(C3) [/F91]

[G3]***SPACER COLUMN***[/G91]

[H3] =(E3/40000)*C3 [/H91]
[I3] =(E3/40000)*D3 [/I91]
[J3] =H3+I3 [/J91]

[K3]***SPACER COLUMN***[/K91]

[L3] =(F3/40000)*C3 [/L91]
[M3] =(F3/40000)*D3 [/M91]
[N3] =L3+M3 [/N91]

[O3]***SPACER COLUMN***[/O91]

[P3] =J3+N3  [/P91]
[Q3] =D3*0.5 [/Q91]
[R3] =P3/Q3  [/R91]
[S3] =(DEGREES(ATAN(R3))) [/S91]
[T3] =TAN(RADIANS(S3))*E3 [/T91]


1) After setup, you can just insert a row and enter just the angle into column [C] and it will calculate the following:

Column E & Column F shows the distance to the 90 Degree Sun
Column P shows the unit of your perspective
Column S shows the actual angle taking into account your perspective
Coulmn T shows the flat earth sun height

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The Lounge / Seen this Movie?
« on: October 11, 2017, 03:42:31 PM »
Just watched predestination; very well done.  Notice the bit about flat earth?

Flat Earth General / Keep up the good work
« on: April 21, 2017, 02:49:19 PM »
It's official. People everywhere are waking up and they are seriously concerned.

Flat Earth Debate / Method #2
« on: March 29, 2017, 07:09:53 PM »
I jot down ideas every now and then about methods to prove what the earth is. Here is one that may have some potential. Disclaimer: I take no responsibility for any injuries from attempting this method.


Go out on boat 1 with a long range rifle & tracer bullets at night
Setup the rifle on a tripod mounted only 2ft above the water
Have another boat 2.1 miles away with video camera mounted 2ft above the water
Fire the gun to the left or right of boat 2, communication here is key :)
Record height of the bullet streak passing by & know the earth is flat.

So, what.  Well depending on the rifle, the bullet should travel 4.2 miles.  If the earth were round then a hump of water that rises 4 feet high between the boat 1 and 4.2 miles out. If boat 2 was midway at 2.1 miles the bullet should go into the water before it arrives, and a bullet trace should never be recorded.

Flat Earth General / Access to jet
« on: March 22, 2017, 06:17:08 AM »
Lets say I have access to private jet.  What methods can you think of to prove earth is or is not a globe.

Flat Earth General / Moon rise
« on: February 26, 2017, 04:17:55 PM »
I'd like to know if anyone has proof (picture or video timelapse) where the moon rises vertically to the overhead position.

Flat Earth General / The dome is now a fact.
« on: February 09, 2017, 10:02:22 PM »
Sorry for ending this website without warning.  All hardcore RE believers, must now believe in FE because....

The dome, yes,  the real deal dome, RDD was written about in a professional scientific publication found in hard copy. 


Flat Earth General / Sunsets on FE explained
« on: January 23, 2017, 10:50:15 PM »
Thought I would share this, N1 Rob Skiba

Flat Earth General / Flat Earth Map & Theory
« on: January 07, 2017, 10:19:33 PM »
Quite an amazing video, thought I would share.  If what he's saying about South America is true then this would be a considerable breakthrough. 

Flat Earth General / Uncover whats really going on (not really)
« on: January 02, 2017, 10:40:20 PM »

I'd ask if anyone here has seen them, but I already know you have, they are blasting the entire internet with ads. Its becoming a bit ridiculous.

"Believe anything we don't care !!!! Just never never never think about the earth being flat!"

Flat Earth Debate / Where is the sun in this photo?
« on: December 02, 2016, 12:14:04 PM »
I'm curious where you think the sun is in this photo.  Last time I checked Stellarium puts it halfway under the horizon.  I took this picture when beginning FE research years ago, because it seemed impossible for the 'full' moon and the sun to both be so high above the horizon at the same time.

This picture was taken at 8/8/2014 8:03PM at 30.0799° N, 95.4172° W

...that time travel existed,exists,will exist. 

I mean how would you ever know where the earth was to position yourself in time at that point? More importantly how could you ever position yourself ontop of something that is moving 5.6 billion km per hour?  Does that number look strange to you?  Maybe we need to check some facts here...

30 km per second earth around the sun
225 km per second sun around the milky way
230 km per sec milky way around the super massive black hole

1,552,500 km per second
5,589,000,000 km per hour

(Also, working on my click bait titles too  :D)

Flat Earth General / Australia is not where you think it is
« on: October 02, 2016, 08:31:36 PM »

Saw this the other day and it reminded me of someone who positioned Australia differently on the FE map and was able to make a pretty good case showing flight paths/times/daylight/distances etc.

It may have been a youtube video, or article.  If you can find it please post it here... 

Flat Earth General / Question about the sun and gravity
« on: September 29, 2016, 11:52:29 AM »
Don't believe in 'gravity' for different reasons but read something the other day that made me think.  This is a summary.

So if gravity is propagating from the center of mass of the sun then that means it takes 8 min 20 sec for the gravity waves to reach earth because the propagation of gravity cannot exceed the speed of light.  Since the sun moves at 200km per second that means the sun has changed position by roughly 100,000km by the time its gravity reaches earth. This could not provide a stable orbit. Okay so then you say gravity is not a force and is more accurately described by general theory of relativity which introduces curvature of spacetime but still how does the earth revolve around 200km per second of changing space time?

Flat Earth General / The Globe Earth Model is Crumbling
« on: September 16, 2016, 02:34:09 PM »
Every single day I learn of a new impossibility of the Globe model. New people all over the internet are doing research, posting experiments, asking questions, and talking about FE. People are starting to wake up. 

What happens next?

I have yet to find a single verifiable proof of this anywhere.

Flat Earth Debate / True Flat Earth Map Distances
« on: August 20, 2016, 03:31:06 PM »
I came across the video below that may have a possible explanation for distances on a flat earth.  I thought it was very interesting.  Could using what is outlined here be used to build a close representation of the true flat earth? Thoughts?

Flat Earth General / Space Selfie
« on: August 08, 2016, 11:44:08 PM »
So apparently a picture of the earth in its entirety, with no need for composite images, can be taken using a simple handheld camera from the distance of the ISS

Also I find it interesting the ISS shape is warped, but the earth shape is 'normal' - if you were to unwarp the ISS what would the earth become? A cube perhaps?

Any roundie care to explain this?

Flat Earth General / Flat earth on CBS news a few days ago
« on: June 01, 2016, 08:53:55 PM »
Okay,   W.....T.....F  ???

Technology, Science & Alt Science / 4 corners of the earth
« on: May 19, 2016, 11:10:39 AM »
Never really thought of the '4 corners' like what is displayed in this FE representation:

Flat Earth Debate / Solar eclipse viewed from an airplane
« on: March 15, 2016, 04:02:35 PM »
I see this posted all the time on the front page of reddit.  It's there now.

Since viewing dozens of videos showing the moon as a translucent disk, I notice immediately the sun is still visible throughout the entire time lapse of this total solar eclipse.


Flat Earth Debate / Getting Answers - Method #1
« on: January 30, 2016, 10:30:22 AM »
I'm a firm believer that regular people like you and me can conduct new experiments to see the earth for what it is, so I will be publishing methods (ideas) on how to do that.  Some of them may work, others can't for whatever reason, but it will be interesting to see what comes out of it.

So first method is to create an indestructible balloon.

1) How do we make one? 
One way would be to use this 'new' material called graphene.  It's flexible, and 10x stronger than steel.  It's also lighter than air.  People all over youtube are creating this substance in their kitchen using mostly household materials.  I've seen one guy that creates a balloon like flexible putty with a blender that later hardens to steel, but is paper thin.

2)Say you're able to make one.  Then what?
From my limited research it appears the highest that balloons can go is 123-175,000 ft (53KM) in the air, because the balloon expands until it pops however I think its possible with an indestructible balloon to go all the way to the thermosphere which is > 90KM. 

3)Say you're able to make a balloon that will travel 90KM in the air so what?
Some people believe there is a dome.  If you had a balloon that goes 90KM, you know there is no dome all the way to 90km.  The horizon. If the horizon still does not have a curve at 90KM that might be meaningful.  If you can get a balloon that high, and you launched near the south pole, how much of Antarctica could you see.   They say the thermospshere is upward of 360 F, you could measure that. There are many more...

Flat Earth General / Get your popcorn ready.
« on: January 25, 2016, 02:09:05 PM »
Haven't seen this posted here yet

B.O.B the rapper w. his 2 million followers has been heating up headlines claiming the earth is flat.

This is getting picked up by major news organizations everywhere today and Neil deGrasse Tyson has been arguing with him

Flat Earth General / 99.993% chance there is a new planet
« on: January 20, 2016, 06:36:30 PM »
But it seems that probability isn't really good enough  ???

Others, like planetary scientist Dave Jewitt, who discovered the Kuiper belt, are more cautious. The 0.007% chance that the clustering of the six objects is coincidental gives the planet claim a statistical significance of 3.8 sigma—beyond the 3-sigma threshold typically required to be taken seriously, but short of the 5 sigma that is sometimes used in fields like particle physics. That worries Jewitt, who has seen plenty of 3-sigma results disappear before. By reducing the dozen objects examined by Sheppard and Trujillo to six for their analysis, Batygin and Brown weakened their claim, he says. “I worry that the finding of a single new object that is not in the group would destroy the whole edifice,” says Jewitt, who is at UC Los Angeles. “It’s a game of sticks with only six sticks.

Flat Earth General / Interesting things with FE & the internet
« on: January 17, 2016, 09:51:07 AM »
Maybe this is new maybe it's not, anyway thought I would share...

Flat Earth interest seems to be exploding (google trends)

Doing a search for "flat earth" with quotes on WikiLeaks fails (this is not temporary, I've been attempting this for several months). Without quotes of course returns all kinds of docs including either flat or earth.

Other terms work just fine using quotes

If you search for flat earth society on G, you will come across another website almost identical to this one that comes up first.  Looked for this in announcements, searched this site for, checked whois, looked at usernames, nothing really matches up.  Maybe I missed something, if not what is this about?

If you search using google and flat earth for only pdf docs you can see some interesting papers.  If you open a pdf, and can't find that term it seems they've just obfuscated either flat or earth.

"flat earth" type:pdf

If you search YT for flat earth with quotes and limit the results to the *last week*, and the video to be longer than 20 mins, you come up with 1050 results.

The Lounge / Hello FES
« on: December 14, 2015, 08:18:34 PM »
New here, (not really been lurking for awhile).  Been researching this theory for quite some time now.  FET popped up many times over the years, but I immediately dismissed it 'the most ridiculous thing' and would not even give it a second of consideration.  One day I decided to watch some video to see what it was about.  The first 'proof' was so compelling, I had to research it and that led to more questions which led to more research and so on until my belief is now that whatever the earth is, it can not be a spinning ball.

The problem I've noticed here is that since we've been told all these lies, and have limited resources for testing its hard to say what the earth is exactly. We could be in a pond with multiple 'earths' just like ours outside Antarctica, or we could be under a dome or the truth could be something not even considered.

And Jrowe, your DET is interesting but I think its a long shot.

Anyway,  I'm exploring some methods that may allow an amateur to see the earth for what it really is or at least narrow down the possibilities.  That what I hope to contribute sooner or later.

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