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Flat Earth General / Neutral and Objective Evidence Supporting Flat Earth
« on: November 15, 2011, 01:11:01 AM »
    Flat Earth Theory like many theories, e.g., evolution, is disputed.  One of the primary complaints of Round Earth Theorists raise against FET is the supposed lack of firm physical evidence supporting FET. Despite the numerous reliable works regarding this topic (which our dissenters just cannot seem to locate, willful ignorance?), adding more evidence can never be detrimental to our cause.

    As noted by polymath and FE theorist Thomas Fabian Bishop, your eyes are extremely effective tools at gathering information about the environment in a format which our brains can then rapidly convert to understanding. He has used this concept as the logical basis for many of his defense strategies, most notably for the now famous “look out your window” defense.  Extending upon these grown breaking paradigm shifts in scientific understanding, I humbly bring my own independent support for FE.
    Below I have several photographs of the horizon over the Pacific Ocean. Although I am of the belief that photographs are not a reputable medium for recoding information, they were particularly convenient for me to use; they can only grant further credence for FE.

    To paint an adequately accurate picture of the scene, I must give some auxiliary environmental information. When these photographs were taken the cameras elevation ranged between 2.132452-3.215422 meters above sea level (it was a calm day). My eye level also was confined to a similar range. The air temperature ranged between the low of 289.323193 and 291.123048 K. The humidity was around 50.432762%. I did not notice any curvature of the horizon, that entire duration of the scientific voyage (approximately 12 hours).

    I recorded several photos (as I mentioned earlier), which do depict curvature albeit slight. Now we have two seemingly contradictory pieces of evidence. However, applying Occam’s razor can sometimes yield unexpected results. In this case, it has granted us a fantastic tidbit of insight into the inner-working of our universe; affording us a precious token of understanding from which we can furbish our great FE knowledge tree. 

    It is extremely well documented that mans judgment is less than perfect. Thus most designs stemming from man will also inherit this imperfection. In contrast, devices designed by god, e.g., life, are perfect. If we were to accept this, then we would inevitably conclude that the cameras perception was more likely to be flawed than my eyes. After recording several photographs, the source of this error became readily apparent. My camera was not particularly expensive, thus its lens quality is substandard. As the evidence supporting that my camera had a flaw ammased, I simply had no choice but to investigate. After thorough investigation it became clear that my camera was subject to a manufacturing related defect, which warped the recorded image very slightly.  It now became clear that my earlier suspicions were in fact true. Knowing this, I present you these photos; despite their slight warp you can really tell how flat the earth is!

Also, I have more photos and I will show them upon request.

The Lounge / Gypsies...
« on: January 17, 2011, 10:06:28 PM »
They made off with all my lobsters. Why did the gypsies steal my lobsters?

The Lounge / Hello, I'm new.
« on: January 17, 2011, 05:55:15 PM »
Hello, I'm new. Nice to meet to meet everyone.  I'm hoping you guys are a little nicer than you look.

The Lounge / I came, I saw, I failed
« on: November 25, 2010, 01:15:54 AM »

The Lounge / On the Nature and Purpose of Our Pre-Meal Merriments
« on: October 21, 2010, 09:36:26 PM »
        Long ago in our past, the simple ape like hominids from which we owe our lineage formed cohesive groups. These groups originally were composed of mere family units, with passing generations growing more intricate and complex. Soon these families formed partnerships for protection from the cruel realities that natures so contrives. These became tribes, then villages, then cities, and finally nations. Along this winding and varied path a curious spectacle emerged. This phenomenon has come to be known as “culture”.  Culture can be defined as “The tastes in art and manners that are favored by a social group”. With such a broad definition it becomes readily apparent that culture can be most anything. But this paper has a more acute goal than that. For what we are examining is one mere trait of one miniscule group, which may be referred to as my family.

   Every supper without fail, my family engages in a series of curious rituals that can trace their purpose and denotation back to our endo-European ancestors.  Dinner for our family does not simply start and end with the microwaving of a simple gruel composed of Hamburger Helper and brawn. No, it is much more! Dinner starts early in the foreday, when my mother wakes from her slumber to begin the cooking of the day’s meal. To describe the meals as “complex” would be a gross and nearing absurd understatement.  For the typical fare usually starts with a whole chopped leg of ewe. From the young hours of the mourn till dusk the parting, seasoning, and preparing of the beast is done.  Once the clock has found it’s hand rested firmly upon the eighth index, the pre-meal customs may take place.  For upon the ignition of the candles glow a somber prayer takes place. Thanking our divine and loving Lord for the bounty he has so generously bestowed upon us.  This is followed by a song representing our thanks in the form of a pseudo-Gregorian chant.  This draws to a close habitually around two hours after the time previously referenced. The general mood and atmosphere hastily changes form a solemn tone to one of a significantly more jovial nature. Typically this is accustomed by the breaking of the seal on a bottle of spirits, and their subsequent imbibition.  As the banter continues the women of the house brings forth soup for all to enjoy. Finally the replete main course is served, and all adjoining parties indulge and become satiated.

   As mentioned antecedently this elaborate tradition can trace its linage back to the traditions and beliefs held by our forbearers back in the Fatherland. For in those times it was custom for the men to farm the soil and bring forth both beast and legume. The women’s role was to refine these bases into something more palatable.  Seeing as a whole day was expended in this preparation, a lavish meal could be brought forth.  To thank for such a meal they looked toward a higher power. Seeing as he would be the only one that a meal such as this could be properly attributed to. In thanks a prayer and chant was uttered. This thanks made assured that future crops would be allowed to grow, the soil remain fertile, and the Lord’s bounty would forever replenish. Even in such early times the importance of the family was known. So in order to foster love and respect a long period devoted to communication was permitted. To help the words flow with ease this communication was augmented with liquor. From there on our palette was moistened by the soup. This was done to aid in appreciation of the final meal.

   Times have changed much since the formation of our customs.   Yet I believe that their importance still holds true. For they distribute labor fairly and foster communication, respect, and love between members.  This bonding is important to any cohesive family unit, and shouldn’t be overlooked. This all happens while simultaneously thanking our Lord. These functions couldn’t be more important. For these reasons I will propagate them unto future generations in hopes of them holding the same esteem to them that I so do; a future without said customs would be as bland and tasteless as that mush of aforementioned Hamburger Helper and spam.

...that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. With the marked exception of Parsifal, and anyone directly related to him.

The Lounge / is part of the conspiracy!
« on: September 22, 2010, 03:38:45 PM »
The second to last sentence in there number one slot!

"You're going to have to do better than that to get us to agree with the Flat Earth Society."  :o

The Lounge / This Article Insults my Intelligence
« on: September 20, 2010, 09:25:16 PM »

GM food is bad cause um it has chemicals and stuff in it. and it was made by the evil corporations...

I believe that existence at it's very core boils down to a single binary statement. The statement would go something like this:

At point t,x,y,z there may be only two options, existence and void. 

Multiple statements compound upon each other to form the vast complexity that can be presently observed. Think of said statement in a fashion akin to a single pixel. From multiple pixels an image may be formed. This image would be our universe. 

The Lounge / MSG
« on: August 28, 2010, 02:12:46 AM »
What is your opinion on the food additive?

Philosophy, Religion & Society / Eugenics
« on: August 10, 2010, 02:29:42 AM »
What are FES's views on Eugenics?

Try to keep it civil.

Flat Earth General / My FE Belief
« on: August 07, 2010, 07:14:54 PM »

I wasn’t always a believer in FET. However, I always had a healthy skepticism toward the “facts” authority usually stated.  Several years ago I discovered this website, I began to question RET, something that I’d always assumed was simply a fact. Unlike most people new to this site I promptly read the FAQ. Soon I was convinced that the wool had been pulled over my and our collective eyes about the true nature of our earth.  Although some may disagree with me about the exact shape of the earth, we will only strengthen our theories with debate and hopefully further our understanding of our planet.

I believe that earth is similarly shaped to the graphic below (not to scale). It has a slightly convex surface which we inhabit. There is a thick ice wall circling the oceans leading to an immense cliff. The underside is heated by the energy that causes UA.  Geographically most maps are correct with the exception of the inclusion of Australia.

I look forward to spirited discussions about the earth’s shape that I’m sure will occur here.

Suggestions & Concerns / The Poster Statistics Section
« on: July 31, 2010, 02:41:12 AM »
It would be nice if there was a chart that showed posting activity over a posters entire duration of time here, or at least the last twelve months. I was thinking something similar to the posts over time of day chart.

Technology, Science & Alt Science / The new Google images sucks!
« on: July 23, 2010, 10:12:42 PM »
It takes longer to load and is generally shity.

Flat Earth General / What drove you to RE?
« on: July 23, 2010, 09:28:35 PM »
I've read many a thread asking why one would believe in FE. Yet I've never seen an Re'er truly justify their belief in RE. Well Re'rs I want to know why you believe what you do. 


I've been using it for about a week now and have to say that this software is well thought out and useful. I basically don't use buttons anymore.

The Lounge / menarebetterthanwomen
« on: July 13, 2010, 11:21:43 AM »

The Lounge / My Proposal
« on: July 10, 2010, 12:16:00 AM »


What does everybody think of my proposal for Santa Cruz Ca?


Gary Brooks Faulkner, a 50 year old “Bin Laden hunter” arrested in Pakistan, after he was discovered carrying a 40? sword, a pistol, and night vision goggles, was motivated by his desire to punish Bin Laden for the September 11, 2001, attacks on the United States. Faulkner was picked up by Pakistani authorities after he was found traveling towards the Afghanistan border. Authorities initially did not believe Faulkner’s claims that he was on a solo mission to kill Bin Laden, but began taking the claims more seriously after he was found to be carrying weapons, and a small amount of drugs.

See a video below about the American solo “Bin Laden Hunter”, and leave your comments about the story in our comments section.

According to reports Faulkner is a Colorado resident who became obsessed with the 9/11 attacks, and took a number of steps to carry out his mission of killing Osama Bin Laden. He is being held in Pakistan, but he has not yet been charged with any crime. It is being reported that the U.S. State Department, as well as counterparts from the Pakistani equivalent of our State Department, are trying to determine how best to handle the situation.

Faulkner has taken a number of trips to Pakistan since 2002. He supposedly obtained the weapons that he was discovered with in Pakistan. Faulkner’s family also has stated that he has a kidney condition and requires dialysis at least three times a week. Ironically, it has been widely reported that Bin Laden also requires regular dialysis treatments for kidney issues.

So, what do you think should happen to Gary Brooks Faulkner, the Bin Laden hunter arrested in Pakistan? Should he be returned to the U.S? Should he be released and told to go try and carry out his mission, or should he be kept in a Pakistani jail? It is most likely that Faulkner will be returned to the U.S. where he will undergo psychological evaluations, and most likely will be prohibited from travel outside the country. Hopefully Mr. Faulkner can get some help for his issues, but according to his family his only issue is that other than an unhealthy obsession with killing Bin Laden, he does not have mental health issues. I find that hard to believe, but I’d love to hear your thoughts.

This man is a raving bad ass. Personally I think he should be idolized as a national hero (Also, possibly be put on a some note of currency)!

After reading about his escapades it becomes readily apparent that the reason he was caught was likely because of his massive brass balls slowing him down. Sadly however, with our current administration, this patriot will not get the thanks he deserves. I still however hold on to the slim hope that the CIA captured the man and is now attempting to give him proper support (use of my tax money that I'd actually condone).

I hope the rest of TFES will agree that this dude is the fucking man.

Arts & Entertainment / Cyber Nations
« on: June 01, 2010, 12:48:28 PM »

Does anyone else play this besides me?

This story was updated at 5:00 p.m.

The first microbe to live entirely by genetic code synthesized by humans has started proliferating at a lab in the J. Craig Venter Institute (JCVI). Venter and his colleagues used a synthetic genome—the genetic instruction set for life—to build and operate a new, synthetic strain of Mycoplasma mycoides bacteria, according to an online report published May 20 by Science.

"This is the first self-replicating cell on the planet to have a computer for a parent," said J. Craig Venter during a press briefing on May 20. "It's also the first species to have a Web site in its genetic code."

For the past 15 years, the genomes of thousands of organisms have been sequenced and deposited in databases. "We call this digitizing biology," JCVI molecular biologist Daniel Gibson told Scientific American. "We now show that it is possible to reverse this and synthesize cells starting from this digitized information….We refer to the cell we have created as being a synthetic cell because it is a cell controlled by a genome assembled from chemically synthesized pieces of DNA."

In other words, a chemical synthesizer stitched together various short iterations of man-made adenine, cytosine, guanine and thymine that were then assembled into a working genome that can successfully produce the proteins that enable life. Using stretches of DNA, known as cassettes, roughly 1,000 base-pairs in length, the researchers assembled a simplified version of M. mycoides genome from scratch in a succession of E. coli and yeast cells. The final synthetic genome—more than a million base-pairs long—was then inserted into an existing Mycoplasma capricolum cell. The synthetic cell then went on to behave as a M. mycoides, producing proteins from the instructions encoded by the synthetic genome and even dividing and growing.

"It is a big deal," geneticist and technology developer George Church of Harvard Medical School says of the achievement. "It's not incremental, but it's not final either," noting that other groups are already delivering useful products from partially reengineered genomes, such as biofuels from engineered E. coli.

Biological engineer Drew Endy of Stanford University clarified how to think of this creation. "It's not genesis, it's not as if mice are coming from a pile of dirty rags in a corner," he says. "The correct word is poesis, human construction. We can now go from information and get a reproducing organism. It lays down the gauntlet for us to learn how to engineer genomes."

Getting to this point was not without its challenges, including requiring at least $40 million in investment into relevant experiments over the past 15 years, primarily funded by Venter's private company Synthetic Genomics and the U.S. Department of Energy, among others. The researchers started with the intention of synthesizing the genome of Mycoplasma genitalium, which has the smallest known natural genetic instruction set. But that organism's slow growth and other properties led them to ditch it in favor of genetically more complex cousins such as M. mycoides and M. capricolum. To simplify things, they deleted 14 genes from M. mycoides natural genome, leaving behind hundreds.

Then the researchers could not find a way to transfer genomes from one bacterial species to another, eventually enlisting the yeast as an assembly waystation, permitting easier manipulation of genetic material and overcoming natural resistance in the microbes to tinkering with their DNA. The yeast also copies the synthetic genome numerous times with its own to allow spares for experiments, while adding its own genetic twists, such as eight single nucleotide polymorphisms now found in the synthetic genome. In fact, there are 19 total nucleotide sequence differences between the synthetic genome and its natural analog. And, thus far, genomes can only be swapped between closely related species. "Right now, we don't know how far phylogenetically speaking the donor and recipient can be," said JCVI microbiologist Carole Lartigue at the May 20 briefing.

But once this synthetic genome was inserted—the would-be host cell failed "and we did not know why," Gibson says. By cross-checking the entire genome gene by gene, they found the fatal flaw after three months of work: a single missing base in the dnaA gene, which is required for life. "Accuracy is essential," Venter said. "There are parts of the genome where it cannot tolerate even a single error."

Of course, the rest of the original cell remains "naturally" made, from the cytoplasm on down, but the billions of daughter cells are assembled entirely from proteins encoded by the synthetic genome. Once the perfected synthetic M. mycoides genome was inserted into M. capricolum, on March 26, it booted up the natural cell's machinery and busily set to work living, making proteins and, ultimately, dividing and thriving. By March 29, the researchers found a thriving blue colony of M. capricolum living as synthetically driven M. mycoides. "The cells with only the synthetic genome are self-replicating and capable of logarithmic growth," the researchers wrote, and grow "slightly faster" than their natural peers.

Venter and his colleagues also included four "watermarks" in the code to distinguish the synthetic microbe—dubbed Mycoplasma mycoides JCVI-syn1.0—from natural organisms, including 46 names of scientific contributors to the synthetic genome, an email address and a web site based on a code derived from the four letters of the bases and 64 combinations of the four letters, or triplets, possible in the genetic code. "When you put English text into [the code], it generates very frequent stop codons in the genetic code and won't produce big proteins," said JCVI microbiologist Hamilton Smith, a Nobel Laureate in medicine. "It's designed to be biologically neutral."

Gibson adds: "If one is able to translate the watermark sequences, they will be able to send us an email and prove that they decoded the sequences."

The man-made genetic code also includes three quotes: "To live, to err, to fall, to triumph, and to recreate life out of life" from James Joyce; "see things not as they are but as they might be" from Robert Oppenheimer via the Ethical Culture School in New York City; and "what I cannot build, I cannot understand" from physicist Richard Feynmann.

As for the first synthetic cells, they now lie dormant in a JCVI freezer. "If there's a cell museum, we may donate it," Venter said. "If we need it, we can thaw it out and it will start replicating again."

What could go wrong
The mere fact of human-directed life in the lab raises its own concerns, including the potential for synthetic life to escape the lab and exterminate its natural cousins, or infect them with synthetic DNA through horizontal gene transfer. Various methods to control this have been suggested, including building genetic sequences that cannot exist in nature, engineering in weaknesses to man-made cells, or even inserting suicide genes that kill the organism if it is removed from its lab environment. "We depend on algae for a fair amount of the oxygen we breathe, it would be bad if we messed that up," Venter noted. 

Man-made creations are likely to be fragile compared to their robust natural counterparts that have been engineered by billions of years of evolution and competition, Church notes, but he also calls for strict oversight to be built into the process of working with or creating such synthetic organisms. "The first safeguard turns out to be to have other people review the work you're going to do so it's not one person coming up with an idea at the bench," Endy adds. "It's a buddy system if you will."

After all, the JCVI scientists "are now ready to build different organisms," Gibson says. "We would like to use available sequencing information and create cells that can produce energy, pharmaceuticals, industrial compounds and sequester carbon dioxide."

In fact, Venter hopes to use the techniques to begin synthesizing antiviral vaccines in days rather than weeks or months. "We have ongoing funding from [the National Institutes of Health] in a program with Novartis to use these new synthetic DNA tools to perhaps make the flu vaccine you might get next year," Venter said, as well as to develop vaccines for viruses that had previously eluded treatment because of their ability to rapidly mutate, such as rhinovirus (the common cold) and HIV (AIDS). And the researchers hope to tinker with the at least 2 million base pairs of an algae genome to help it more efficiently turn sunlight and CO2 into hydrocarbons.

Tackling even more complex genomes remains a daunting task, so many of the researchers involved will now focus on an attempt to create the simplest genome possible that can still permit life. "We can whittle away at the synthetic genome and repeat transplantation experiments until no more genes can be disrupted and the genome is as small as possible," Gibson says, estimating that this could be less than half of the more than a million base pairs required by this first synthetic genome. "This will help us to understand the function of every gene in a cell and what DNA is required to sustain life in its simplest form." As well as what DNA might be desired for a future synthetic biology.

All I can say is holly shit!

Technology, Science & Alt Science / Macromedia Flash
« on: April 11, 2010, 10:17:48 PM »
I used to love this program, sadly however I don't have it anymore. Is there a decent free open source equivalent?

Technology, Science & Alt Science / Pi ** 2
« on: April 05, 2010, 10:59:14 PM »
I must know...

Technology, Science & Alt Science / Python
« on: February 26, 2010, 08:33:12 PM »
Does anyone besides me program in it?

The Lounge / What you want for Christmas...
« on: February 01, 2010, 11:03:48 PM »

What is it?

It's a automatically targeting paintball gun turret (AKA the best way to keep those damn kids off your lawn!). Basically it's a motion sensor that is hooked to a paintball gun. It more or less unloads on anything you don't like!

Technology, Science & Alt Science / Maths
« on: January 26, 2010, 01:08:40 PM »
1/infinity= x

What is x?

Arts & Entertainment / SkiFree
« on: January 23, 2010, 08:15:58 PM »

Bored? Well this should quell that!

Philosophy, Religion & Society / "Souls"
« on: January 22, 2010, 12:46:56 AM »
There is one argument I thought of in support of souls. Every molecule in your entire body is switched out on a pretty regular basis. The molecules that compose your skin cells have a higher turn over rate than say the ones that comprise your brain cells. Your brain is the commonly attributed to making you, well you. Every part of your body and brain is switched out multiple times in your life. However, it still appears that you are the same entity (soul, consciousness, whatever...), even though your brain is not of the same composition or structure as it once was. You never became a different entity even though every molecule and atom in you did. One must then conclude that either your "soul" stayed behind while the molecules that make up your brain left; or that this whole idea of you being any one  or the appearance of being one cohesive entity is merely an intricate illusion.

The Lounge / The Conspiracy is coming to Snuff the FES!!!
« on: January 14, 2010, 08:44:05 PM »

"President Barack Obama's appointee to head the Office of Information and Regulatory Affairs advocated in a recent paper the 'cognitive infiltration' of groups that advocate 'conspiracy theories' like the ones surrounding 9/11 via 'chat rooms, online social networks, or even real-space groups and attempt to undermine' those groups. Sunstein admits that 'some conspiracy theories, under our definition, have turned out to be true' Sunstein has also recently advocated banning websites which post 'right-wing rumors' and bringing back the Fairness Doctrine. You can find a PDF of his paper here. For decades (1956-1971), the FBI under COINTELPRO focused on disrupting, marginalizing and neutralizing political dissidents, most notably the Black Panthers. More recently CENTCOM announced it would be engaging bloggers 'who are posting inaccurate or untrue information, as well as bloggers who are posting incomplete information.' In January 2009 the USAF released a flow-chart for 'counter-bloggers' to 'counter the people out there in the blogosphere who have negative opinions about the US government and the Air Force.'"

Shit, we're about to be infiltrated by government trolls :-\

Apparently we don't speak the truth they want to hear.

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