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Philosophy, Religion & Society / OMG - Can we just stop this crap now?
« on: December 17, 2009, 12:08:33 PM »
Ok - for everyone who doesn't believe organizations are not trying to get our kids involved psychologically and traumatically... let's take a look at this shall we?

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Gah, that just pisses me off to no end. Fine - if you really truly believe in that crap more power to you - just leave my kids (neices and nephews) poor emotions OUT OF IT! You can have your flyers, you can have your commercials, but quit playing with their minds. This is sick, twisted crap.

Ok I'm back.

Take care,
- Optimus

Flat Earth Debate / Magnetic Flow (Simplified)
« on: December 16, 2009, 09:20:47 AM »
Greetings all! Ok, so if anyone would like all sorts of scientific references, data, etc. just ask - but I shall first pose the simple question that I think can be the start of a good debate.

If the Earth is Flat, how can we explain the magnetic field's orientation?

It has been argued consistently that a compass will work normally and as expected in a Flat Earth, and therefore Magnetic North is the Center of our Earth, while the Magnetic South would encircle it.

This would, not for debate here, be ok for a generic compass direction. The problem lies with the vast amount of archeological finds - Specifically volcanic for the easy stuff - that show us specific directional orientation of the magnetic field of the Earth.

Here we find that the magnetic field or 'lines' if you will run North to South in what would be a more "linear" fashion than one would expect on a Flat Earth.

One would expect that as you found evidence from various sites throughout the plane, that you would find the orientation of material to 'point' slowly evermore "outward" toward the 'perimiter South' would you not?

So what do you all think? Let me know if I did not do a good enough job of explaining, and I will try to draw up some diagrams of what I mean later today. Gotta go over to Mom's for her birthday here in a few though.

Take care all!!
- Optimus

The Lounge / Don't Panic!
« on: December 14, 2009, 10:32:01 AM »
It's only ME! :D

Greetings all from your past... and hello n00bs and those I've yet to frustrate or generally annoy or get to know, etc.

Just a note to say hello and clear up a couple of things:

In getting back to reality here, I was frustrated I couldn't get my account working and have now finally figured out that poor old Optimus here was missing a bolt here and there. So for those wondering - OptimusPrime and myself Optimus Prime are one in the same and I shall continue on as myself once more with no further Ado.

Thank you very much to Lord W. for all of his help and many apologies for all the mixups, etc. as both accounts were in fact mine and sorry about the duplication, etc.

Take care everyone! Hope to see many of you still here!!
- Optimus

Flat Earth Q&A / Bad News - Not sure where to post it:
« on: February 03, 2008, 11:16:41 PM »
Sorry all, I've got to get for a day or two.
Apologies for not getting your definitions posted today as I said I would, but my Uncle Albert has passed today. We are on our way up to visit w/ the rest of the family and take care of the rest of everything that goes along with such things.

No worries, he was a great man and lived an extremely long life for someone w/ diabetes (82!!)... and could still fit into his Navy uniform right up till the end ;D

I can only hope to be half as good a man as he was, so here's to him. Won't go into a bunch of blubbery details, but short and sweet.. I never met anyone who had been through the nightmarish things he had... and lived to be such a great person to everyone around him. Never even heard him swear! Worst thing ever came out of his mouth was "Son of a Buck!" lol.

Take care all... seek out those you care about, and hug them tight. Just a good thing to do every so often. ;)
- Optimus

The Lounge / Here it is...
« on: February 01, 2008, 09:45:45 AM »
My first music video! This was a blast and a half to make. I totally landed the best draw of the lot on genre: hero. I'll give you 1 guess before you watch it as to who it's about.. lol

The music is a chicky favorite dedicated to all the chicks at who let me do whatever I want with file storage, etc.

I had 24 hrs. to complete the project. All video and audio clipping, mixing, etc. are by my lonesome. So all the positives are welcome and the negatives are well... necessary. ;D (and I want you to post them seriously)

I'll already point out that as I became aware of my timeline crunch, I also became aware of my steadily draining footage available!


Only include footage relevant to genre (my case: Hero)
Keep video under 2.5 minutes
Edit music to sufficiently blend in the timeframe
Frame up Clip exchanges with beats
Frame up Clip exchanges with rhythm
Must include one still capture and hold
Credits cannot exceed .5 min and are not included in time restriction

So... whaddaya think? :D

The Lounge / Definitions:
« on: January 27, 2008, 07:22:36 PM »
Since I've now had a request, here they are starting with the most recent:

The Lounge / Undeniable Evidence...
« on: January 25, 2008, 11:01:34 PM »
Proof that the earth must be a sphere. Otherwise the following video would not work at all.

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Choke on that FE!!!

Flat Earth Q&A / Checkbox - Make Thread Temporary?
« on: January 24, 2008, 12:33:44 PM »
In Second Life, when creating an object - one can check a box marking that object as "temporary" or not.

All this does is that once you are done editing it's size and shape, putting whatever scripts in it etc.
It will after a couple of minutes, disappear as if it never were. Useful for some applications.

I'm beginning to feel as if some of the threads around here have this option and I'm not aware of it. I know I have been a participant of at least 3 threads over the last several days, all of which have miraculously... just disappeared!

I don't recall any foul language or lambasting that was out of control (in fact none of them were even on those lines at all) and I can't think of any content that would have been out of line, so I'm asking people on the forums here, MODs included, what constitutes the deletion of a thread? It seems to be going outside of the common requested requirements of the site. Albeit the MODs do have the right to delete at will.

I also realize that it is more than a possibility that between the time of my last post to any one of them, and the time I came back to read, someone could have posted something rediculous... so therein lies my question. WTF is going on? I haven't seen threads disappearing like this since I got here.


Philosophy, Religion & Society / HOW IT HAPPENED
« on: January 19, 2008, 08:55:31 PM »
Someone mentioned Isaac Asimov earlier, and it got me to reading one of my old favorite collections. I came accross this very short story by him and found it would be a fun read for some - for those that dislike this sort of thing.. don't take offense please - it's meant in good humour.

How It Happened
Isaac Asimov

 My brother began to dictate in his best oratorical style, the one which has the tribes hanging on his words.
"In the beginning," he said, "exactly fifteen point two billion years ago, there was a big bang and the Universe--"
But I had stopped writing. "Fifteen billion years ago?" I said incredulously.
"Absolutely," he said. "I'm inspired."
"I don't question your inspiration," I said. (I had better not. He's three years younger than I am, but I don't try questioning his inspiration. Neither does anyone else or there's hell to pay.) "But are you going to tell the story of the Creation over a period of fifteen billion years?"
"I have to," said my brother. "That's how long it took. I have it all in here," he tapped his forehead, "and it's on the very highest authority."
By now I had put down my stylus. "Do you know the price of papyrus?" I said.
"What?" (He may be inspired but I frequently noticed that the inspiration didn't include such sordid matters as the price of papyrus.)
I said, "Suppose you describe one million years of events to each roll of papyrus. That means you'll have to fill fifteen thousand rolls. You'll have to talk long enough to fill them and you know that you begin to stammer after a while. I'll have to write enough to fill them and my fingers will fall off. And even if we can afford all that papyrus and you have the voice and I have the strength, who's going to copy it? We've got to have a guarantee of a hundred copies before we can publish and without that where will we get royalties from?"
My brother thought awhile. He said, "You think I ought to cut it down?"
"Way down," I said, "if you expect to reach the public."
"How about a hundred years?" he said.
"How about six days?" I said.
He said horrified, "You can't squeeze Creation into six days."
I said, "This is all the papyrus I have. What do you think?"
"Oh, well," he said, and began to dictate again, "In the beginning-- Does it have to be six days, Aaron?"
I said, firmly, "Six days, Moses."

The Lounge / This is *SO* worth the read..
« on: January 18, 2008, 10:09:29 AM »
Conspiracies you say? No way something could be one way or another? I came accross this and was slapping the table by the end.

Please enjoy... (I italicised and/or bolded some or the more relative statements to this forum ;D )

by Terry Bisson

"They're made out of meat."


"Meat. They're made out of meat."


"There's no doubt about it. We picked up several from different parts of the planet, took them aboard our recon vessels, and probed them all the way through. They're completely meat."

"That's impossible. What about the radio signals? The messages to the stars?"

"They use the radio waves to talk, but the signals don't come from them. The signals come from machines."

"So who made the machines? That's who we want to contact."

"They made the machines. That's what I'm trying to tell you. Meat made the machines."

"That's ridiculous. How can meat make a machine? You're asking me to believe in sentient meat."

"I'm not asking you, I'm telling you. These creatures are the only sentient race in that sector and they're made out of meat."

"Maybe they're like the orfolei. You know, a carbon-based intelligence that goes through a meat stage."

"Nope. They're born meat and they die meat. We studied them for several of their life spans, which didn't take long. Do you have any idea what's the life span of meat?"

"Spare me. Okay, maybe they're only part meat. You know, like the weddilei. A meat head with an electron plasma brain inside."

"Nope. We thought of that, since they do have meat heads, like the weddilei. But I told you, we probed them. They're meat all the way through."

"No brain?"

"Oh, there's a brain all right. It's just that the brain is made out of meat! That's what I've been trying to tell you."

"So ... what does the thinking?"

"You're not understanding, are you? You're refusing to deal with what I'm telling you. The brain does the thinking. The meat."

"Thinking meat! You're asking me to believe in thinking meat!"

"Yes, thinking meat! Conscious meat! Loving meat. Dreaming meat. The meat is the whole deal!  Are you beginning to get the picture or do I have to start all over?"

"Omigod. You're serious then. They're made out of meat."

"Thank you. Finally. Yes. They are indeed made out of meat. And they've been trying to get in touch with us for almost a hundred of their years."

"Omigod. So what does this meat have in mind?"

"First it wants to talk to us. Then I imagine it wants to explore the Universe, contact other sentiences, swap ideas and information. The usual."

"We're supposed to talk to meat."

"That's the idea. That's the message they're sending out by radio. 'Hello. Anyone out there. Anybody home.' That sort of thing."

"They actually do talk, then. They use words, ideas, concepts?"
"Oh, yes. Except they do it with meat."

"I thought you just told me they used radio."

"They do, but what do you think is on the radio? Meat sounds. You know how when you slap or flap meat, it makes a noise? They talk by flapping their meat at each other. They can even sing by squirting air through their meat."

"Omigod. Singing meat. This is altogether too much. So what do you advise?"

"Officially or unofficially?"


"Officially, we are required to contact, welcome and log in any and all sentient races or multibeings in this quadrant of the Universe, without prejudice, fear or favor. Unofficially, I advise that we erase the records and forget the whole thing."

"I was hoping you would say that."

"It seems harsh, but there is a limit. Do we really want to make contact with meat?"

"I agree one hundred percent. What's there to say? 'Hello, meat. How's it going?' But will this work? How many planets are we dealing with here?"

"Just one. They can travel to other planets in special meat containers, but they can't live on them. And being meat, they can only travel through C space. Which limits them to the speed of light and makes the possibility of their ever making contact pretty slim. Infinitesimal, in fact."

"So we just pretend there's no one home in the Universe."

"That's it."

"Cruel. But you said it yourself, who wants to meet meat? And the ones who have been aboard our vessels, the ones you probed? You're sure they won't remember?"

"They'll be considered crackpots if they do. We went into their heads and smoothed out their meat so that we're just a dream to them."

"A dream to meat! How strangely appropriate, that we should be meat's dream."

"And we marked the entire sector unoccupied."

"Good. Agreed, officially and unofficially. Case closed. Any others? Anyone interesting on that side of the galaxy?"

"Yes, a rather shy but sweet hydrogen core cluster intelligence in a class nine star in G445 zone. Was in contact two galactic rotations ago, wants to be friendly again."

"They always come around."

"And why not? Imagine how unbearably, how unutterably cold the Universe would be if one were all alone ..."


Flat Earth Q&A / Mids... this is why...
« on: January 08, 2008, 01:25:56 PM »
You can just really kick ass sometimes...


Flat Earth Q&A / Debate: Is Tom Bishop For Real At All?
« on: January 08, 2008, 10:21:01 AM »
I just had an experience I can't even begin to relate how dumbfounded I am about.

I'm not going to go to the rediculous and start linking images and crap but in a nutshell, Tom Bishop just got done posting a picture of a HAM radio and asking me which buttons to push on it to do something right?

Problem was, the picture was of a different make and model than he wrote just below it. Ok, that was bad enough, ha ha funny deal caught him in the act - could have been a joke.

No, then when I get done typing in my response to that, explaining it... he has modified the post with not correcting himself... but posting an entirely different radio and name. WTF? Why in the world would you do something like this and try to maintain any sort of credibility?

So my question is... is Tom Bishop really even a FE proponent at all? Or is he just somebody that likes to rub gibberish around and hope it sticks?

Man that just sucks when people do things like that. I mean that's just low. I don't mind joking around and poking fun at each other... even if it gets out of hand at times it's all good I get it.. hey it's the internetz, but just scamming people? Man...

Alex Sutherland:

An extremely nice man, fellow musician, and friend to many passed on not too long ago. I've had a difficult time with it and really haven't had anyone to talk with about it being away from home. Alex passed away from a sudden heart-attack without any warning.

I'm not asking for any sort of commentaries or anything I don't mean it that way, but I just needed to get it off my chest somewhere that Alex was a somebody worth mentioning, and that the world is just a tiny bit duller without him in it.

I do my very best not to let things like this interfere with my temperament towards others, but if for any reason I have come off as snippy or uncharacteristic towards anyone please accept my apologies. I am a bit more affected by this loss than I even thought I would be. He really was a great man.

He leaves behind a wife and 3 sons. " class="bbc_link" target="_blank">This is the last interview with Alex and Carrie. If you've got a few minutes, do me a favour and just give it a watch so I know some of my friends here will remember one of the best people I've ever known.

Take care everyone, hold those around you close for you just never know what tomorrow might bring.
- Optimus

Flat Earth Q&A / Holy Shinto! It works!
« on: January 06, 2008, 08:23:00 PM »
The first image gallery on the site actually works! lol
I actually had to be the one to suggest giving the asset server a swift reboot to tech support but hey.... whatever it takes eh?

Let me know if it's workin ok for the rest of the world.

- Optimus
Check It

Click the Gallery link. Cpt. B.T. Himes is the only one up at this time. Looking for more of course.

Flat Earth Q&A / Website is now open!
« on: January 01, 2008, 11:19:02 AM »
The new research site is open. Anyone who wishes to post articles, images, video clips, charts, etc.... just email me at:

Everything is welcome as long as you observe the rules. (Nothing much more than the content can't have obscenities nor obscene material. Going for a family oriented site here eh?)

Any scientific theories, research, etc. I would be happy to host the data for you especially if you are having a hard time finding a place to keep it all. I have 1 TB of storage space on the server and 4.2 TB of local space to archive with.

For now, visit the website and drop me suggestions. If you'd like it renamed, restyled, etc. you've gotta let me know first. ;D
The website is a dual-purpose site hence the website address itself. Eventually I will buy a sub-domain if enough interest is shown, however I can't afford to purchase a domain / host account without some profit coming from it - and my wife does graphic arts / 3D design in Second Life. We will be getting together some things for her and building up the main site when we get time.

- Optimus

Flat Earth Debate / The FE Pond...
« on: December 04, 2007, 10:07:59 AM »
I know there are a few people on the site that believe the FE is either infinite or at least extremely vast, like a few light-years or more vast.

I wondered if anyone ever stopped to think if perhaps the Earth was only the centre 'pond' amongst many others in this great wall of ice?

Perhaps there are many other suns low enough to this vast body in space that have hollowed out and given life to various places. An interesting theory that our "Alien Friends" Could simply hop in their UFO and skim accross the ice a ways to get here, rather than deal with the emptiness of space. They could even be using some magnetic / pulse drive such as we've theorized and tested towards working with the Earth's magnetic field .

Having their own effects in their regions, it could also account for the slight variations in our own magnetic field.

Outlandish .. sure, but hey... it's a thought. ;D

Flat Earth Debate / Flat Earth Maps - How much for granted?
« on: December 02, 2007, 04:43:33 PM »
First off, this is not your regular regurgitated "wheres the flat earth map?" post.

Second, I've poured through a lot of this forum, and have found many posts along the above lines, and many statements inferring that a lot of old / ancient maps record the earth in a certain way that does not conform to the modern model and therefore the earth must be flat.

Ok, so I have a question. If we are to take some of those old maps for granted, shall we take the sea-monsters and other strange dangers for granted as well? Do they also exist in the FE model?

This is not trying to be an ass, this is a serious question. Simply yes or no is fine, but I'd be curious to hear any ideas on the subject also. I've my own ideas about them that I'll share after some others do.


Flat Earth Debate / Special Relativity or no Redirect...
« on: November 29, 2007, 01:32:26 PM »
As it has hijacked another thread long enough, I am redirecting the discussion about an experiment that has brought about much debate to this thread.

As TheEngineer has admin rights I see, I leave it up to him to leave this thread open or close it as he sees fit, I simply did not want to continue to take up the other threads train of thought any longer.. that's all.

To state the issue at hand the debate began with a for fun brain teaser I posted as a footnote: It is as follows:

Quote: Optimus Prime:
Keep this in mind: They are continuing experiments at my university regarding particle time-travel. Get this.. When you prick your finger, there should be a finite amount of time it takes for the signal to reach your brain - no matter how fast it is right? Guess what? There IS NO DELAY. Without visual cues, the mind can perceive signals from all over the body *instantaneously* - therefore the impulse delivering the message to the brain must have left *before* the incident took place according to our understanding of time.
--------------------------- (Sorry not sure how to do a proper quote from a different thread. This is a direct cut and paste however) --------

This statement sparked an ongoing debate as to whether or not it violates Special Relativity, and as of late even Quantum Mechanics.

I believe my original mistake may have been to not just simply point out that it is not that there actually is no delay, it's the perception of signals all over the body instantaneously. I've already stated the percentages of the people in our experiment and there have been several like ours, some of them more advanced,  since the 70s.

Instead of "There IS NO DELAY" I should have stated "There appeared to be no delay" - I simply felt it was a more impactive statement to make people think about it, and that the rest of the statement took care of the possible confusion as thus:
"Without visual cues, the mind can perceive signals from all over the body *instantaneously* ...."

And I go on to very briefly explain what the theory was. Time reversal symmetry is the idea that according to special relativity and quantum mechanics, we should technically have the same access to the future as we do to the past. That's an extremely raw and simplistic way to put it, but it does cover the basics.

Therefore the theory is that the brain - having different levels of processes, including some quantum levels we are only just beginning to understand (however are definable and , it is theorized that the quantum brain is sending information back in time via the quantum field and affecting the sensory system at the same instant of the event.

I gotta go... I will double check this later to make sure it makes sense. I've obviously been having trouble getting the language accross so we'll see.

Take it easy all

Flat Earth Q&A / Apologies to this forum...
« on: November 27, 2007, 03:41:57 PM »
I would just like to take time out to apologize to the forum for the "Quantum Post" if you will that has gone off-topic.

I know how off-topic posts can be really annoying and I never meant for what I meant to be a funny brain-teaser to turn into a monstrous debate all its own.

Sorry for the inconvenience, and if anyone would like to discuss this sort of thing any further, please just PM me. These are extremely lengthy questions and theories you are asking for answers to that I don't mind doing my best to answer. I don't mind posting in public if there is a place in here to do so, but I don't think this is the place for it.


Flat Earth Debate / Solar Energy
« on: November 26, 2007, 12:11:29 PM »
Ok, I'll keep this simple and non-scientific for now. If anyone wants to progress there ok, but I don't think it's necessary.

There are plenty of independent groups that study the Sun's energy levels on a constant basis. Many have done so for more than a decade. There are measurable patterns along these lines to provide hard data that I have seen many people in this forum request if you wish to google it.

How does the FE model explain the earth not being turned into cinders if the Sun is at the distance provided by the FAQ - or reference Earth Not A Globe?

Most all information regarding the sun is available online. If you really need to discuss it I'm happy to, but the question remains that if the Sun is only 700miles or so away, why do we even have an atmosphere left, much left a surviveable surface to our planet?


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