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Flat Earth General / FES Got featured on Vsause today
« on: December 04, 2014, 12:04:23 PM »
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He begins to mention the Flat Earth Society here, appropriately, with a tin foil hat

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Interesting video though.

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Flat Earth General / Let's observe Jupiter and its moons for a few nights.
« on: November 30, 2014, 11:23:54 AM »
This is directed toward any FE'er who believes that any celestial phenomena are reflections.

I am prepared, as Jupiter has come into a prime position this time of year for my location, to photograph the planet reflection and its satellite reflections, over the course of a few weeks. There has been a lot of cloud cover during the night time, so I may not be able to immediately.

What is this going to prove you ask?

Just one simple fact: that there are small reflections which seemingly rotate around the planet, or at least, move to the right and left of it on a 2 dimensional plane.

What do I want to accomplish with this?

I would like an FE 'Reflectionist' explanation for this phenomena. Specifically explain:
1. Why there is a large reflection with a seeming orange/brown color with a few small satellite reflections around it
2. Why these specific reflections are brighter than all others
3. Why the smaller reflections move around the larger one (or from side to side, whatever)

If you can already predict that you cannot provide explanations for these phenomena, let me know. A discussion might be necessary until the photographs are taken.


If RE'ers think this is a stupid idea, let me know. Lol.


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Flat Earth Debate / What are deep space objects in FET?
« on: November 28, 2014, 08:10:58 PM »
I've searched the forums for an explanation for this, but I can't find anything specific, not even on the wiki. So, here is the question:

Last summer I got into astrophotography and started off taking some shots of the Milky Way like these:
http://imgur.com/Snmgdvw,Vaodqq5,WjYkq9n#0
http://imgur.com/Snmgdvw,Vaodqq5,WjYkq9n#1

My area is very heavily light polluted, so they turned out pretty horribly. Nonetheless, I continued, and I took a shot of Andromeda.
http://imgur.com/Snmgdvw,Vaodqq5,WjYkq9n#2
(My photo is on the left. The reason the picture is so horrible is because my lens was fogging up from humidity)

I have seen many explanations for stars and such, like Sceptimatic's star reflections, but I haven't seen explanations for phenomena like nebula and galaxies. Galaxies especially, carry a very common spiral shape. Knowing this, it cannot be that they are random, and they cannot be fabrications of NASA, because as I have just shown, anyone can photograph a galaxy (I just recommend you do it away from the city hehe).

So. How does FET explain complex structures like galaxies, nebulae, rings, trackable orbits of some stars, all of which can be detected with amateur equipment?

EDIT 1:
Sort of answer from Sceptimatic:
Hydrogen/helium (other expanded elements) clouds and reflections. The clouds our eyes see are dense clouds compared.
It's just a light ocean of clouds upon clouds to the dome.
This does not however adequately explain the spiral formation of galaxies, the bright source of light at their center, the observable moons and their orbits of Jupiter and Saturn, the observable rings of Saturn, and, I want to add, globular star clusters.

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Flat Earth General / Is FET Falsifiable?
« on: November 23, 2014, 07:49:26 PM »
What would it take for FET to be proven incorrect, in the context of a spherical Earth to be proven correct?

Would it mean sending you FE'rs off into space for a few orbits? Let me expand on this a bit:
          If we all were able to fund a mission to MEO, and bring some FE'rs with us, and orbited the Earth a few times, to observationally prove that the Earth is spherical, would you guys still hold   
          some of your conjectures about things like gravity? Denpressure? Physics?

And out of interest and curiosity, what if, hypothetically, you guys got your $4 million for an expedition to the ice wall- and hypothetically, it was not there? How would your worldview change?

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Sceptimatic has spoken:
What would it take for FET to be proven incorrect, in the context of a spherical Earth to be proven correct?
Physical proof would be an excellent start.
Would it mean sending you FE'rs off into space for a few orbits? Let me expand on this a bit:
If we all were able to fund a mission to MEO, and bring some FE'rs with us, and orbited the Earth a few times, to observationally prove that the Earth is spherical, would you guys still hold   
          some of your conjectures about things like gravity? Denpressure? Physics?
Nope. If you did what you say, I would change my whole stance and support the science world in full on space. Let me know when your mission is ready and I'll put a hydropacked lunch together.
And out of interest and curiosity, what if, hypothetically, you guys got your $4 million for an expedition to the ice wall- and hypothetically, it was not there? How would your worldview change?
If I kept flying south and ended up back where I started, I would be a globalist again.

Does this still make flat Earth falsifiable? it would if this was physically done.

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