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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Tulsi Gabbard GOP Mole?

« on: October 19, 2019, 01:10:36 AM »

What's the big deal with Tulsi Gabbard? 

Hillary Clinton claims she is being groomed by the Russians as a 3rd candidate spoiler.   Sort of a Jill Stein 2020.



Gabbard Fires Back



https://twitter.com/TulsiGabbard/status/1185289626409406464

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Don't you just love evangelicals?

« on: June 01, 2019, 06:51:53 AM »

The looney stuff evangelicals get up to is worthy entertainment. 

As an example,  take this guy,  he's off the planet.

https://twitter.com/theJeremyVine/status/1134509543612911617

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / AOC

« on: March 27, 2019, 07:17:46 AM »

It speaks volumes where I can start a thread with just 3 letters and immediately everyone knows not only what it's about but immediately start to take up their pre-ordained positions on the left vs right spectrum of political viewpoints.

I suggest that you all sit down for a minute and actually listen to what she is saying, it might change your mind.

https://edition.cnn.com/2019/03/27/politics/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-green-new-deal/index.html?utm_source=twCNN&utm_content=2019-03-27T13%3A50%3A09&utm_medium=social&utm_term=image

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Flat Earth Philosophy Explained

« on: May 07, 2018, 12:54:41 AM »

Interesting take.

Ahead of the curve?

In the 21st century, we are witnessing another important shift in both power and knowledge due to factors that include the increased public platforms afforded by social media. Knowledge is no longer centrally controlled and—as has been pointed out in the wake of Brexit—the age of the expert may be passing. Now, everybody has the power to create and share content. When Michael Gove, a leading proponent of Brexit, proclaimed: “I think the people of this country have had enough of experts,” it would seem that he, in many ways, meant it.

It is also clear that we’re seeing increased polarization in society, as we continue to drift away from agreed singular narratives and move into camps around shared interests. Recent Pew research suggests, for example, that 80 percent of voters who backed Hillary Clinton in the 2016 US presidential election—and 81 percent of Trump voters—believe the two sides are unable to agree on basic facts.

Despite early claims that a worldwide shared resource of knowledge such as the internet would create peace, harmony, and a common interpretation of reality (this idea comes from as far back as HG Well’s “world brain” essays in 1936), it appears that quite the opposite has happened. With the increased voice afforded by social media, knowledge has been increasingly decentralized, and competing narratives have emerged.

https://arstechnica.com/science/2018/05/i-watched-an-entire-flat-earth-convention-for-my-research-heres-what-i-learned/

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Qanon Conspiracy

« on: May 01, 2018, 01:51:45 AM »

Is anyone else following the Qanon story?

If you like conspiracy theories,  this one has it all.

In the QAnon reality, Trump only pretended to collude with Russia in order to create a pretext for the hiring of Robert Mueller, the special counsel, who is actually working with Trump to take down an inconceivably evil and powerful network of coup-plotters and child sex traffickers that includes Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama and George Soros.

This has led to the issuing of 28,000 sealed indictments, or is it (25,000)  is one of the themes.

The central claim of the #QAnon conspiracy theory is that President Donald Trump’s Justice Department has filed thousands of sealed indictments against Democratic leaders, Hollywood celebrities, and wealthy elites.
All are guilty of a variety of misdeeds, horrific sex crimes, affiliation with the “deep state,” and/or intent to harm the president and his administration.
And when the time is right, Trump will order the indictments unsealed, prompting a massive wave of arrests, with the accused tried in the field and sent to Guantanamo Bay for indefinite detention.

And that's not even the half of it.   Great stuff if you love conspiracy theories.

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The Lounge / Agressive Penguins

« on: April 21, 2018, 08:03:38 PM »

Penguin hassles Cormorant to join the avian revolution.



Write your own caption contest.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Psychographics and Social Media Psyops SCL and Cambridge Analytica

« on: March 23, 2018, 06:26:19 PM »

This is a complex topic, and bound to cause confusion as people divide along predetermined lines of thought.

It's been established that SCL and it's subsidiary Cambridge Analytica has used data driven psychological targetting to influence public perception and election results,  in dozens of countries,  Brexit and the 2016 US Presidential elections,  Kenyatta re-election in Kenya (twice),  the Polish Elections and anti-eu media campaign,  Erdogan's campaign in Turkey,   I suspect Hungarian, Austrian, and Italian election results of the past year have been skewed by these "psychographic"  techniques. 

What's the motive?  and why does Robert Mercer's name keep popping up?

Some research materials.   Cambridge Analytica claims to have been employed in hundreds of election campaigns and lists numerous case studies on it's web site.
 
https://ca-political.com/casestudies/

The background of SCL is British Military Intelligence and they have "ListX" status with the MoD.   https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/mar/21/mod-cambridge-analytica-parent-company-scl-group-list-x

SCL is contracted to the US State Department,  psychographic profiling of Iranians who want regime change perhaps?   
https://medium.com/textifire/scl-group-joins-the-us-state-dept-ad5cac8155ff

This rabbit hole is about as deep as it gets.   

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The Lounge / Red Alert

« on: March 02, 2018, 08:14:44 PM »

A “supercolony” of Adélie penguins has been found on a remote chain of rocky islands in the northern tip of the Antarctic Peninsula



Even more worrying is that they have developed their own drones for their own nefarious penguin purposes.



http://abcnews.go.com/International/supercolony-adelie-penguins-discovered-antarctica/story?id=53463806&cid=social_twitter_abcn

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Flat Earth General / Interesting Flat Earth Research Project

« on: January 24, 2018, 06:20:23 PM »

When last we heard of "Mad Mike" Hughes, the 61-year-old limo driver and stuntman who planned on launching a $US20,000 ($24,947) steam-fuelled rocket with "RESEARCH FLAT EARTH" painted on the side some 550m into the air at 800km/h, the gosh darn US government had intervened to tell him he couldn't conduct any such launch on public lands.

From here.

https://www.gizmodo.com.au/2018/01/rebuffed-flat-earth-rocketeer-says-he-will-actually-launch-himself-into-the-sky-at-800km-h-this-time/

Sounds like a good day out for any flat earthers who live nearby.

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The Lounge / Viceroy Cruton hit by vandals

« on: December 27, 2017, 05:02:14 PM »

Viceroy Cruton has been vandalized.   

According to the article in AP,  he's been shot at 6 times as well. 

https://apnews.com/257c19ce9c11411e8909679e71d514f3?utm_campaign=SocialFlow&utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=APSouthRegion

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Flat Earth General / Apollo 17 Mission - End of the conspiracy.

« on: August 04, 2017, 10:35:00 AM »

When Apollo 17 left the moon, they shot 16mm video of Apollo 17 landing site during the ascent stage.   

The linked video compares the pictures from Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter with the earlier 16mm film.

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Flat Earth General / Where does the sun go at night?

« on: July 16, 2017, 06:28:59 PM »

The more highly evolved published flat earth theories,  have the sun light bending in weird ways at the horizon,  but the newish converts like "Resistance is Futile"  and "Dutchy"  seem blissfully unaware of the problem that sunsets and sunrises cause for flat earth theorists.

So where do they think the sun goes at night?

And,  please don't say the other side or spotlight,  we know those ideas don't work.

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Technology, Science & Alt Science / Observation Skills Test

« on: April 29, 2017, 06:53:48 PM »

Ok here's an experiment in observation skills.  ( or maybe it's an experiment in confirmation bias? )

Whio can see the plane in this picture?



Here's where it's thought to be.



Both those frames are from this short video

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The Lounge / The Flat Earth Lonely Hearts Club

« on: March 26, 2017, 01:28:24 AM »

Spotted on Twitter... 



No comment needed.

And yes it's a real facebook group  https://www.facebook.com/groups/fedating/

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The Lounge / Let's talk about scammers

« on: February 20, 2017, 10:42:59 PM »

I was going to ask if they took cash?

You win.

The funny thing is there are gullible people who will respond,  and then after they get ripped off, go to the police complaining that they didn't receive the counterfeit currency they paid for.

The scammers don't actually have to print anything.   Zero overhead.   

They even ripped off the picture of the flask with blue liquid from here   http://arslanenginery.com/white-spirit-plant/

It's actually kerosene.

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Technology, Science & Alt Science / 911 What is the truth?

« on: February 13, 2017, 10:36:59 PM »

Quote from: Babyhighspeed on Today at 07:27:01 AM
So by this I assume he is an official story guy? If that is the case you can't expect too much from him ....Also, he should never give any crap about their views or believing in fairy tales.

I'll  take that challenge.   What real evidence is there for a conspiracy about 911?   Innuendo and speculation don't count as evidence.

My starting position is that there is no conspiracy,  I remember watching the coverage on TV,  and my first comment, even before the towers collapsed was Osama Bin Laden is behind this,  I've not seen anything since that would change my mind. 

So over to Babyhighspeed for the fairy tales.   

Here's an archive of interest, many thanks to denspressure.

https://archive.org/details/911/day/20010911

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Flat Earth General / Alternative Facts

« on: January 25, 2017, 05:17:35 PM »

Saw this on twitter, and thought to myself,   I bet that Trump penguin is a flat earther...   spreading his alternative facts,,

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Flat Earth General / January 20th is Penguin Day

« on: January 23, 2017, 04:32:13 AM »

I almost missed it ...   so here we are a day or so late,  but  the penguins don't mind.

Now for a quick review of penguin types.



For those wondering what this has to do with flat earth conspiracy,   since the South Pole can't exist on a flat earth,  then penguins, ipso facto can't exist either.

Best current theory is penguins are genetically engineered harbingers of doom for anyone foolish enough to travel far enough south.

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Flat Earth General / Flat Earth with Alex Jones and WikiLeaks?

« on: October 18, 2016, 01:16:03 AM »

You may have heard that the deadmans switch releasing the decryption codes for the wikileaks data has been released following  Julian Assange's internet service being cut. 

So,  here's the question,   who thinks the released data will confirm the conspiracy to hide the flat earth?   Is Alex Jones  a closet flat earther or is he part of the conspiracy?

US Politics is like a reality tv show.   "Survivor" with nuclear weapons.    The tribe has voted.

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Flat Earth General / Is the moon flat or spherical?

« on: July 31, 2016, 05:29:36 AM »

This got buried in the questions thread, and I never got a satisfactory answer.

When I look at the moon from Australia,  I see it as upside down to the moon I see when I'm in the northern hemisphere.   It's trivial to understand why this is so on a globe.   But no so trivial on a flat earth.

Let's see if we can explain why the flat earth model fails,  and incidentally,  I will  also show how it could succeed.

Imagine the flat earth model,  the moon orbits roughly over the equator,  which is a circle on the flat earth.   For the sake of orientation,  I am going to paint a big red dot on the bottom half of the moon,  by bottom,  i mean the part of the moon that is closest to the horizon as I see it.

Now looking at the moon from Australia,  I see the big red dot at the bottom of the moon,   so now I go to England,  and look at the moon,  lo and behold  if the earth is flat, the big red dot is still at the bottom of the moon.  So the moon is the same way up when seen from either hemisphere.  The flat earth model fails to explain why, in reality i see the moon upside down.

Now, let's throw the flat earthers a lifeline to cling to.    Imagine the same scenario,  as before but this time the moon is a flat disk  oriented  horizontal to the earth,  I place a red dot on the part that looks to me like it's the bottom of the moon,   now when I go to England, lo and behold the image has flipped and the red dot now appears on top.  Finally we have a workable explanation.

So,  in conclusion,  in order for the earth to be flat,  the moon must be flat as well,  if the moon is a sphere then so is the earth.   QED.   

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Technical Support / RESOLVED: Can't see youtube videos

« on: May 10, 2016, 04:41:48 PM »

I haven't been able to see embedded youtube videos for a while now,  maybe it was around the time of the forum upgrade?

I have tried multiple computers, multiple operating systems, multiple browsers..    Linux Mint,  Windows 10,  IOS 9.1,  Chrome, Firefox, Explorer, Safari.

Any clues?

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Flat Earth Debate / Flat Earth Reality

« on: March 12, 2016, 08:56:31 PM »

I normally don't like threads that just link to a video and offer nothing concrete,  but this one popped up in another thread,  linked to by Woody ( thanks Woody )
And is worthy of it's own thread and separate discussion, he raises some interesting points.

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Flat Earth Debate / Fatal Flaws in Universal Acceleration Theory

« on: February 04, 2016, 09:33:59 PM »

There seems to be a number of fatal flaws in UA theory. 

First,   the earth's  gravitational field  diverges by a measurable amount,   this divergence causes the tidal effects which we see in things like the tidal locking of the moon. 
Second,   there are small variations in the gravitational field caused by non uniform material distribution and density,  these gravimetric surveys are well known.
Third,   there is a decrease in the gravitational field strength at higher altitudes. 

None of these observed phenomena can be explained by universal acceleration,   or can they?

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The Lounge / Stats for the other site

« on: January 27, 2016, 05:30:40 PM »

This is especially relevant since we've just hit an all-time high when it comes to visits. I sincerely suspect this has to do with us making major overhauls of how our homepage works more than anything.

The full on media battle between BOB and NDT have nothing to do with it of course,  not forgetting Junkers work on reddit,  no, it's all down to web design....   FFS,  how arrogant.

Let's face it, the flat earth movement has been caught flat footed,  the biggest opportunity ever to expound your alternative world view,  and you guys are arguing about word filters.

Time for you to unite,  and stop the petty bickering.   

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Flat Earth General / The next twist in the story...

« on: January 25, 2016, 07:47:29 PM »

What happens when a flat earther is confronted with the reality that the earth is actually round? 

He concludes that the flat earth movement itself is a  government organized psyop.

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He claims flat earthers are being played for fools.  He he..  I could have saved him some trouble there. 

The other point he makes, is that some of the flat earth video makers,  are always aggressively seeking donations and funding for something or other,  makes you wonder about their motivation.

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Flat Earth General / Is the moon a hologram?

« on: January 10, 2016, 08:34:29 PM »

Somewhat consistent with snowglobe earth theory,  is the Crrow777 lunar hologram theory,   I watched a couple of his videos on the lunar wave, and thought he seemed geniune?

Is this becoming a part of flat earth dogma?

https://www.youtube.com/user/Crrow777

Another conspiracy to unravel.

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Flat Earth General / What's on the other side?

« on: January 06, 2016, 06:25:00 AM »

Calling all flat earth true believers... 

If the earth is flat, like a pancake, or a dish  then there must be a bottom side of the pancake/dish.

What's underneath the flat earth?   

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Flat Earth Debate / ABSOLUTELY IRREFUTABLE ARGUMENT AGAINST THE FLATNESS OF THE EARTH

« on: September 22, 2015, 06:40:44 PM »

Ok,  here is the challenge for flat earthers.  If the earth is in fact flat,  then there must be an edge.   

We know that it's not at the South Pole,  so it must be somewhere else?   

Where is the edge?

A map showing the location would be acceptable,   pictures would be better.

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Technology, Science & Alt Science / A true to scale model of the Solar System

« on: August 31, 2015, 01:05:25 AM »

In the words of Douglas Adams,   space is big...    really big..   

This is an accurate scale model of the solar system,  where the moon is just one pixel in size.   

http://joshworth.com/dev/pixelspace/pixelspace_solarsystem.html

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Flat Earth General / Russian Troll Factory

« on: August 18, 2015, 09:07:55 PM »

Everyone who has ever posted round earth arguments on here,  has at some time or other been accused of being a paid government shill,   I think that's ridiculous for the flat earth conspiracy,  I mean who takes it seriously anyway?   

But there are other real instances where organizations are attempting to control social media and internet forums by employing paid shills  to derail and disrupt.   

Here is one that is in the news at present.    I wonder how many others there are,   more to the point,  if there is a flat earth one,  are they hiring?   

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-08-12/inside-russias-troll-factory-internet-forums-social-media/6692318

They are calling them "pro Putin" trolls,  shills would be probably be a more accurate term.