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Flat Earth Q&A / Coriolis Force
« on: May 08, 2006, 05:34:13 AM »
Quote from: "ag_k0nc3pt"
Quote from: "EnragedPenguin"
Quote from: "ag_k0nc3pt"
Coriolis force is something that 15 year olds learn in geography.  It's really not hard to understand.  As for observation?  Look at the water draining down your sink.  It spirals.  If the North Pole is the centre of the earth, why does the coriolis force reverse at the equator?

It's a myth that the coriolis effect is that detectible, the water drains out in different directions depending on how the sink is made or on the placement of microscopic cracks and the such.

You sir, are a fool.  Drill a large round hole in the bottom of the bucket.  Drain water through it.  In the Northern Hemisphere, it spins one way.  In the Southern, it spins the other.  On the equator it doesn't.  Do this experiment on one side of the equator, step onto the other, AND THE WATER STARTS TO SPIN IN THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION!

in wich direction does the water spin on the northern hemisphere?

Flat Earth Q&A / Re: To All Spammers And Forum Trolls
« on: May 08, 2006, 03:58:57 AM »
Quote from: "Cinlef"
Do I believe the Earth is Flat?

Do I believe that belief in the Flat Earth is stupid and scientifically unsound?

Do I beleive in liberty?
Do I believe liberty means anyone should be apble to express their views freely no matter how foolish those views and no matter how much I may personally disagree with those views?

These forums harm no one. Propaganda is not spread here, their is free debate which makes evident the flaws in the FE model. Clever informed debate by people who have read the FAQ.
So essentially, if you have something constructive to add to the forum please do so.
If not the Internet is vast and contains multitudes where you could be amusing yourself.BUt if you think that spamming into oblivion a website that encourages thedebate of moronic but harmless theories is some great moral victory you delude yourselfs and debase the noble concept of Liberty
An enraged

I salute you, master of all, Cinlef. I don't think I've ever agreed so fully with a post by someone else. Congrats

Flat Earth Q&A / Hey
« on: May 08, 2006, 03:53:59 AM »
Quote from: "Erasmus"
Quote from: "cheesejoff"
It would have so much gravity that it would pull everything towards it and eventually collapse in on itself and create a black hole, methinks.

Certainly, it would have some pretty strong gravity.  But where would its centre of mass be?

I claim that you always get pulled straight down towards such an object; in that sense, the centre of gravity is directly below you.  For every direction D in which gravity is pulling you, gravity is pulling you with equal force in a direction that is the reflection of D over a plane perpendicular to the infinite Earth and to the projection of D onto that Earth -- so the lateral components of D cancels with that of its partner.  The only direction which is not so "cancelled" is straight down.

I used a computer algebra system to determine the force of gravity on such an Earth.  The results were strange, but to simplify things, if the force of gravity is defined at all, it is equal to 2md/H, where m is the mass of the falling object, d is the density of the Earth, and H is the height of the falling object off the Earth.

Notice that this relationship is inverse linear, as opposed to inverse square on a round, finite Earth.  This -- like the constancy of gravity on the "zetetic" flat Earth -- is a testable prediction of the theory.


Flat Earth Q&A / Fist of all..
« on: May 08, 2006, 03:49:53 AM »
I've realized that you none of you will accept a proof taken from belief. Because of this, I suggest we start from the beginning and define the difference between science and belief. As far as I can see, the only difference is that science is the belief of someone called a scientist.
So tell me, or else I won't be able to post anything.

And, by the way, don't just write something like "belief is religion". Give me a real answer

Flat Earth Q&A / Re: Proving you all wrong.
« on: April 20, 2006, 05:05:54 AM »
Quote from: "Erasmus"


I must say, you DO know lots of long words!

Flat Earth Q&A / The simpler answer...
« on: April 20, 2006, 04:55:10 AM »
I don't know if I'm the only one, but I agree with four fifths. Let's say the earth is a misinterpretation of something "real", then we have to agree about how different this something can be from the earth and still be called the earth. Also, if the earth is an illusion, it's a cube. Like a dice.

Flat Earth Q&A / So, the Government is hiding it from us?
« on: April 12, 2006, 03:29:18 AM »
Quote from: "Zweih"
The matrix has you

yeah, the whole world is probably virtual reality. The real world is a cube

Technology, Science & Alt Science / help (its for steam)
« on: April 12, 2006, 03:22:16 AM »
wow. does this mean 50% of the forum are bastards?

Flat Earth Q&A / How old, and opinion
« on: April 12, 2006, 02:56:48 AM »
I'm far too young, and the earth is a cube

Flat Earth Q&A / welcome
« on: April 10, 2006, 11:54:57 PM »
Welcome, chaltier. every FE is needed for the debate

Flat Earth Q&A / Re: hi chalamer
« on: April 10, 2006, 11:53:00 PM »
Quote from: "darkdemon583"
not to be rude But your gullible mind is worse than bullhorn . And remember folks no lie can be a fact

not to be rude But your mind is slow and simple. How do you stand living in such a small world? I imagine it's quite boring, yes?

And remember folks no fact can be a lie

Flat Earth Q&A / Which camp are you in? POLL
« on: April 10, 2006, 11:46:07 PM »
I think "a candy on a stick" would fit best, since i don't belive in a round earth, or a flat earth, or evolution, or God

Flat Earth Q&A / Where is the edge of the earth?
« on: April 10, 2006, 11:39:16 PM »
Quote from: "Joe_Mama"
That is a picture of a bunch of glaciers

...made of paper. you forgot that, i think

You've gotta have better proof than that[/quote]

how amusing. That's what i told everyone who tried to convince me that the earth is round

Flat Earth Q&A / Global Warming
« on: April 10, 2006, 11:35:28 PM »
Quote from: "Knight"
Common guys!! You should read some science and mathematic books and you'll realize how wrong is your flat-redneck-christian-republican-earth theory.

You should read some of the posts on this forum before you accuse anybody of being ignorant redneck "common guys"...

Do you know why you believe in such thing?

No, none of us know why we believe what we believe.  Please inform us why we believe it.

Did you know that Bible was wrtitten by humans being? not by God...

Not according to the Bible though.  Also, you can't prove that God didn't write the Bible any more than any of us can prove that the earth is flat.

Have you ever considered the possibility that god and satan could be an invention to control the mass, making people afraid of going to hell ... because jesus loves them lol?

Sure we've considered it.  But why exactly is this statement one that makes you "laugh out loud"?  Have you ever considered the possibility that God is a realistic entity?

making people afraid of going to hell ...

If I believed in hell I'd be pretty afraid of going there also.  

But hell doesn't exist....... oups I've just destroyed all on what you base your thought, sorry...

No, you haven't destroyed anybody's thoughts or beliefs.  You made an unfounded statement... do you expect anybody to believe you when you do that?  

But now that you've just realized how much you've been bullshitted by Religion all your life it's not to late to turn yourself to the light of logic and reason.

Once again, you haven't shown anything except unfounded statements.  Write a logical essay to try and make people believe you.

Strangely, the only reply I can come up with is "indeed"

Flat Earth Q&A / The Flat Earth FAQ Thread
« on: April 06, 2006, 01:29:54 AM »
Quote from: "Erasmus"
Quote from: "EmperorNero"
Quote from: "Erasmus"
But it's quite obviously not a point light source...

if I understood the word(s) "point light source", I would say "could be"

A point light source is a glowing speck.  No real light sources are point sources, but some things -- like stars and lasers and what-not -- come very close, so we approximate them as point sources.

Things that appear to have some size -- the sun takes up an area of your visual approximately one degree (or maybe a half, or two... can't remember) in diameter -- are obviously not point sources, because they don't look anything like points.  The sun looks like a big yellow dime.  Because of this, light from the sun comes from more than one direction.  It's one of the reasons shadows' boundaries are fuzzy.

Basically, the sun *cannot* be a point light source.


wow, you actually could explain it in a way I think i understood. I must say, I'm impressed.

But what if everyone who has ever seen the sun is crazy in all kinds of ways. Then the sun could be a point light source right?

Flat Earth Q&A / Re: We are all just sit'n and spinning here......
« on: April 06, 2006, 01:28:07 AM »
Quote from: "Mach1"
Scientist say we are spinning about 1,038Mph at the equator. This would mean that we are spinning faster than the speed of sound.

If we are spinning this fast, then how are we able to hear anything? The sound would always be behind us. So no way this is true that the earth is spinning this fast. It's all a lie, we really are just sitting on a flat disc and not really spinning or going anywhere.....

Ahh crap,  I forgot everything is relative, we are going in so many directions I get fricken confused..  Lets see I'm spinning 1 rev day or 1038mph, going around the sun every 365 days or at 67,000mph , Solar system we live in is moving at 446,400mph and finally the Galaxy is moving at 1,332,000mph that is a total of 1,846,438mph we are moving at. We are moving in so many directions I'm starting to get veritgo, ohh crap I'm having problems standing, no I don't think it is the speed and direction we are going that is making me sick, it is the bad booze I have been drinking.

It's not the earth that is moving, it's the rest of the world

Flat Earth Q&A / Re: Question for FEers
« on: April 06, 2006, 12:08:22 AM »
Quote from: "cheesejoff"
Quote from: "EmperorNero"
If there is a natural vaccuum, since there is no such thing as gravity, the air would just escape earth's "atmosphere".

no, it wouldn't. God told it not to when he created everything

Using God to explain one part of FE theory just invalidates it, we're trying to make an FE theory that works under known scientific laws, simply saying "God did it" removes what little credability it has.

actually i don't really care. I'm not here to prove anything, I'm here to disprove everything

Flat Earth Q&A / Re: Questions from a non believer.
« on: April 06, 2006, 12:01:35 AM »
Quote from: "Sceptic87"
I have some Questions,
You mentioned in a previous argument that the pictures from space were a government conspiracy, but you cant answer why on earth, all the governments with the power to send satelites and telescopes up into space would want to cover this up. Its not good enough to say 'governments dont make sense' i want factual answers not fague excuses.

the qovernments are bribed by the devil. He doesn't want people to know the truth. The round earth is the idea of satan


If you really want to prove the world is flat, why don't you just try and go to the edge of the world? take a photo, prove it to us

you would throw the word "fake" in the face of everyone trying. If not, take a look at the icewall


Further more how do you explain weather satilites? they orbit a round earth, we know they're really out there because we get accurate weather maps telling us accurate weather forecasts.

there are no satilites. it's the magic satan, and it's evil


how do you explain time differences? if my aunty calls from spain at 1pm madrid time, it might be midnight where i am, say, in fiji. if the earth were flat we would all have day and night at thesame time wouldnt we?

Erasmus has already explained this, somewhere

Flat Earth Q&A / The Ice Wall? What makes you think it's made of ice?
« on: April 05, 2006, 11:50:38 PM »
Quote from: "The Coltar"
Erasmus, Im sorry but i just have to reply.
but first i would like to agree with whoever said that its good that the Paramiod_Android is gone. I mean what a non-believer. Am i right or am i right?!  so all this waves debate. I mean, excuse me for being so obviously slow but how would all this debate change someones already steadfast views on the shape of the earth and waves etc.
I mean take you, cheesejoff for example, your a regular flat-earther and in dure a simple scientific observation/discovery wouldn't change your opinions. I mean, come one!!

I totally agree. I don't think anyone ever changed his mind because of this site, or its debate.

But I think most of them (us) are having damn fun trying to convince everyone else

Flat Earth Q&A / Re: Where is the edge of the earth?
« on: April 05, 2006, 11:46:17 PM »
Quote from: "Joe_Mama"
Does anybody have any pictures of it, or do you need time to get on your computer and doctor one up?

The end of the world is more or less X miles from here.

And yes, I've got a picture of it

Flat Earth Q&A / Re: Question for FEers
« on: April 04, 2006, 11:24:50 PM »
If there is a natural vaccuum, since there is no such thing as gravity, the air would just escape earth's "atmosphere".

no, it wouldn't. God told it not to when he created everything

Flat Earth Q&A / The Flat Earth FAQ Thread
« on: April 04, 2006, 11:19:24 PM »
Quote from: "Erasmus"
Quote from: "cheesejoff"
and time zones by saying the sun is a point light source?

But it's quite obviously not a point light source...

if I understood the word(s) "point light source", I would say "could be"

Flat Earth Q&A / Re: This is Really Cool.
« on: April 04, 2006, 10:57:25 PM »
Quote from: "Erasmus"
Quote from: "iamchris"
Actually I find it quite depressing.  Before finding this site, I thought humans were quite intelligent beings.  I see we still have some weeds to pull.

As I've said before, truly intelligent beings would not draw conclusions about the distribution of humanity from a sample of a size as small as the number on this forum who wholeheartedly argue for a flat Earth.

Sometimes, I do love you  :lol:

Flat Earth Q&A / Re: This is Really Cool.
« on: April 04, 2006, 10:55:38 PM »
Quote from: "Daniel"
Quote from: "co-exist.42"
So keep it up and keep it interesting. I know you Flat Earth believers probably get a lot of crap. I am in full support!

Thanks for the kind words!  This site had a rough start, but it's turned into a really nice little (but growing) community.  Even though Flat Earth believers are in the minority on here (that's ok, we're used to it!), most people are quite civil to each other and I see a lot of interesting discussions that I wouldn't likely see elsewhere.

you're not a minority because you're a FE. you're a minority because you're brain accept what you're eyes tell you (What I mean here is that just about anyone could see that the earth is flat, but not many accept it)

Flat Earth Q&A / Re: Disproving The Flat Earth
« on: April 03, 2006, 01:31:04 AM »
Quote from: "Condraz23"
Thank you for your answers, Erasmus.

However, why would the government try to cover the information up? Wouldn't it make more sense to tell everyone the truth?

Maybe they're recieving disgusting amounts of money from the devil for it?

or whatever you think. It's not difficult to come up with an explanation

instead of calling everything you can't understand impossible, call it magic. Or "the will of god". And suddenly, the whole world makes sense

Flat Earth Q&A / Distances, airplanes and people
« on: April 01, 2006, 06:36:37 PM »
Quote from: "Erasmus"
Basically, to get around this, FEers say that math is lies

well, you can't really prove that math isn't lies. As far as i can see, the basics of math is plus as well as minus, or one of them.

And you can't prove that 2+2=4. Sure, you could place two stones together two times and then you would have four of them. But then you would have to convince me you didn't, for example, eat one of them, or added a fifth stone without me noticing

Flat Earth Q&A / Flat Earth Society
« on: April 01, 2006, 06:15:11 PM »
Quote from: "WTF"
More likely, you're just pretending like most people I've seen argue for a flat earth.  Of course a round earth is common sense, we can discuss a large variety of topics that are easily explained by a round earth, and only explained by ad hoc explanations which usually disregard entire branches of science if you're arguing for a flat earth.  It's pretty obvious which side isn't thinking clearly.  Time zones, the horizon, seasons, eclipses, space flight, global travel, satellites, communications, the night sky, take your pick.  My explanations will be simple, in agreement with mainstream science, involve no mega-conspiracies, and often be verifiable by just about anyone.  Yours...won't be.

All your explanations can easily be thrown with the words "I don't believe you". I would love to give you several reasons not to believe you, but I think I'm not experienced enough in the english language to express my thoughts

Flat Earth Q&A / The Ice Wall? What makes you think it's made of ice?
« on: April 01, 2006, 06:00:25 PM »
I must admit I'm a bit confused by all this scientific explanations (Spelling? I'm not the best at English). If you're able to say the earth is flat (or round), why not just use the word magic? let's say there's a magic wall surrounding the earth, preventing the water from leaving?

Flat Earth Q&A / FE magnetic field
« on: April 01, 2006, 05:22:30 PM »
Quote from: "cheesejoff"
You seemed to think it was sarcastic because you said "sarcasum is the lowest form of wit-grim".

Just to clear things up sarcasm is used as a serious criticism or insult. He was merely offering the suggestion as a joke.

A joke? You never know...

Flat Earth Q&A / FE magnetic field
« on: March 30, 2006, 12:42:05 AM »
Quote from: "the grim squeaker"
Quote from: "Erasmus"
Quote from: "6strings"
So, how does one "magnet" grow stronger than the others periodically?

Er, the strong one gets tired, and another one takes over?  Like bike racing, or bird migration?

Or, it could be the magnetic material is part of a more fluid portion of the Earth.  RE theory proposes that the mantle can flow, and also supports the notion of continental drift.  Magnetic drift could work in a similar fashion: there's a layer of magnetic material underground that shifts around very slowly.

Hm... I like the bird migration analogy better :)


and a magnet gets tired how exactly?

well that isnt very hard to figure out, is it?
you do a hard days work, you become tired.

Easy as that  :D

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