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The Lounge / Islam
« on: February 13, 2007, 10:05:23 PM »
There is now an outstanding request that you be banned from this forum.
P.S.  If you think my use of the word nigger was racially motivated, then you are deluded.  Show me a more STRONGLY NEGATIVE word to describe you and I'll considre using it instead.

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The Lounge / Islam
« on: February 13, 2007, 09:51:31 PM »
theonlydann,

You're an idiot, nigger.  Erasmus made an unprovoked obscene comment.

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The Lounge / Islam
« on: February 13, 2007, 09:43:06 PM »
ERASMUS YOU ARE A NIGGER AND A SODOMITE.

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: Who was making money before NASA?
« on: February 13, 2007, 09:29:11 PM »
Quote from: "Pyrochimp"
Quote from: "Areopagite"
 As a starting point for some concept of societies during the Middle Ages which advanced sphericism, you might consult 'The Sleepwalkers' by Arthur Koestler.

So who was making money before the Royal Astronomical Society?  The idea of a round Earth has been around far longer then the 17th century.

Not that making money has always necessarily been the primary or the most direct benefit, but according to Cosmas Indicopleustes the origin of the error began with the Babylonians and worked its way into the ancient World from there especially amongst certain sects in India and later amongst some schools in Greece as the error was brought over by agents like Pythagoras at the behest of the jewish leaders in Babylon whom he visited.  Sphericism attained its greatest fame in the ancient World with Claudius Ptolemy whose globularism was discarded by the early Christians.  It was revived and kept alive by certain schools of islam amongst both sufis and ismailis who in turn taught globularist cosmology to the west.  As stated above, some of globularist schools of thought in the late medieval west are described in Arthur Koestler's 'Sleepwalkers.'  

However, one late medieval order of particular interest is the Rosicrucian due to the fact that they specialized in occult science and whose membership has included Dante Alighieri who introduced islamic ideas of Underworld cosmology to the Latin west and most of the founders of modern science such as Rene Descartes and Isaac Newton, and significantly the sixteenth centuıry cartographers who remapped the World according to the globularist ideology of the rosicrucian order.  Christopher Columbus was a marrano or crypto-jew (whose original jewish name was Cristobal Colon) and a secret member of the colonialist Knights Templar, a Rosicrucian agent as membership with the rosicrucians was used by the Knights Templars after they were banned courtesy of Robert the Bruce.  As such, Columbus was carrying out the Rosicrucians' business.

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The Lounge / Apostates of Islam - We Left Islam
« on: February 13, 2007, 11:09:28 AM »
Quote from: "Ubuntu"
Quote from: "Areopagite"
It is primarily your purist atheism...

My spidey senses are tingling... are you a YEC?

I think you already knew that and were avoiding the similarities which I pointed out between atheism and islam.

By the way, I follow the Septuagint which places us at 7515 years since the Creation of the World and the deluge of Noah in the year 3213 Before Christ.  This definitely contradicts your millions, but unlike the jews' and protestants' fıgures which are both close to 6000 years, the Septuagint adequately accounts for the antiquity of Egyptian civilization as demonstrated in the Chronicon of Eusebius which harmonizes Hebrew and Egyptian history and like all the Church Fathers follows the Septuagint chronology.

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: Who was making money before NASA?
« on: February 13, 2007, 10:56:28 AM »
Quote from: "Pyrochimp"
who was making money before space exploration?  And if nobody was making money off convincing everyone the Earth was round before space exploration, then what WAS the motive?

The Royal Astronomical Society which is still around and to whom NASA to a large extent received its heritage has been one of the principle front organizations dispensing heliocentric propaganda since the seventeenth century.

  Closer to NASA's own time, the CIA founded in 1947 is its direct predecessor.  NASA was founded in 1958 and both organizations have an extensive and black history of mind control operations which they have endeavored only partially successfully to keep secret.  Also dırectly precedent to NASA are German rocket and mind control scientists and programs including both Nazis such as Werner von Braun and other such as Albert Einstein who were brought from Germany to the United States over a period of several decades in part as a result of the US military's Operation Paperclip.  Many of the scientists transferred in 'Paperclip' were used to form NASA and became its leading scientists.

  As a starting point for some concept of societies during the Middle Ages which advanced sphericism, you might consult 'The Sleepwalkers' by Arthur Koestler.

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: What happened to the religious aspect?
« on: February 13, 2007, 10:24:17 AM »
Quote from: "beast"
Quote from: "Ticky"
I thought religion or at least the catholic church played a big role in people's perception that the earth was flat centuries ago. Does no one here argue for a flat earth on religious grounds?
--Ticky

No one does.  Perhaps you, and other REers should ponder that, and maybe think about what's being attacked on this site...

Beast is wrong and you were correct.  You can get a good idea of the strength of the atheist beast's flat Earth belief by virtue of the fact that after he learned that I believed the 'Protocols of the Elders of Zion' are not a forgery, he said he would recant his flat Earth belief if he saw one of the 'core' flat Earthers make a similar statement again.
Both Raa (who is a muslim) and myself (and to some extent Chaltier who does not post as much) believe the Earth is flat based primarily but not exclusıvely on a religious basis.  Also, Samuel Rowbotham was a devout protestant who would be considered a 'bible christian' today.

Quote from: "cheesejof"
The (Catholic) Church did not believe the Earth was flat.

This statement does not accurately describe Latin Europe before the schism of 1054 after which it came under the influence of the largely sphericist mohammedan philosophers.
Quote from: "cheesejof"
Gallileo argued for a Geocentric model rather than a Heliocentric one, but neither were flat Earthers.

If I am not mistaken, cheesejof meant to say that 'Galileo argued for a HELIOCENTRIC model rather than a geocentric one, but neither he nor the papacy of that time were flat Earthers' which is quite true.

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The Lounge / Islam
« on: February 11, 2007, 07:11:40 AM »
Quote from: "Hara Taiki"
Areopagite, your ignorance is why I choose to stave religion off.

Wrong.  You ignore religion because of your own ignorance.

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The Lounge / Islam
« on: February 11, 2007, 07:10:33 AM »
Quote from: "Ubuntu"
Do you care about morality at all? Do you truly understans what morality is?

Yes, and the fact that you condone sodomy confirms that your atheism has brought you delusion as to what morality is to such an extent that you are offended by the quoting of a righteous and morally upright saying and prophecy.  You are lost as to what morality is and speak evil of good.

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The Lounge / Apostates of Islam - We Left Islam
« on: February 10, 2007, 04:15:30 PM »
Quote from: "Ubuntu"
YEC = Young Earth Creationist
Got it.  Yes, of course.
Quote from: "Ubuntu"
Requirements: 1) Believe glue is 1000 years older than the Universe
You lost me on that one.  If that is a requirement, then I do not qualify.
Quote from: "Ubuntu"
the light speed barrier doesn't exist
True enough, but I am interested in exactly who did you catch asserting this (since an average creationist is not quite that hard core)?

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The Lounge / Apostates of Islam - We Left Islam
« on: February 10, 2007, 03:34:43 PM »
Quote from: "Ubuntu"
are you a YEC?

You'll have to spell that one out.  I am not familiar with the term.  However, after you mentioned it, I did a search and located the following website.
http://www.yecheadquarters.org/index.html

I had never heard of this website before, but it's a good one.  There is a book which has appeared during the course of the past year with a similiar theme entitled 'Ascendancy of the Scientific Dictatorship.'  A welcome but interesting trend as it makes one wonder whether these kind of serious minded protestants will some day enter some form of  "catacombs."  Protestantism is transforming into three major groups:
1)  The main stream denominations which are dead and dying
2)  the kind of protestants mentioned above which are a more serious minded minority
3)  pentecostals

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Technology, Science & Alt Science / The Gates of the North
« on: February 10, 2007, 03:14:33 PM »
Saint Andrew the Fool for Christ ( of Constantinople circa AD 1000) has a prophecy which directly relates to the race of monsters imprisoned by Alexandre the Great which I will post as soon as I acquire an English translation of it as well as anything from the ancient sources from Alexandre's campaigns relating to this incident.

Images of Mount Elbrus
link edited for clarity

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The Lounge / Islam
« on: February 10, 2007, 02:53:10 PM »
Quote from: "Ubuntu"
Areopagite, how about we destroy Christianity while we're at it?

Quote from: "thedigitalnomad"
BECAUSE THATS NOT IN THE PHOPHECIES, SILLY

HA HA HA  YOU VERY FUNNY MAN

Seriously, Ubuntu is right.  Modern "christianity" is wicked, corrupt, and very far from God.  
Moreover, the Orthodox Christian prophecies with which I am familiar speak of this.  In particular, the paraphrasis of Leo the Wise states that the Roman Emperor of the time when the Ishmaelites power will come to an end will:

1) Avenge and restore those who have been wronged  
2) Persecute impiety and put to the fire all those who practice acts of sodomy
3) CLEANSE THE HOLY PLACES AND RESTORE THE WORTHY ONES TO THEM

Most alleged "churches" today are false and will indeed be destroyed precedent to the fall of the Ishmaelites (i.e. the end of islamic power).  I have stated elsewhere on this forum that "christianity" is a term on the lips and pens of protestants and those who have inherited their legacy.

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The Lounge / Apostates of Islam - We Left Islam
« on: February 10, 2007, 02:35:17 PM »
Quote from: "Ubuntu"
Sorry, "secular Muslims"?
The need to exercise reason and rationality supersede any theological opinion.  In a universe where God existed, they would lead us to him.

It is primarily your purist atheism (and possible lack of historical and philosophical knowledge) which are obstacles in your reasoning preventing you from understanding the connection between the two and atheism's debt to islam.

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Flat Earth Information Repository / Saint Brendan the Navigator
« on: February 10, 2007, 02:28:29 PM »
According to the logbook of his voyage of the early sixth century AD, after passing the great islands in the west Saint Brendan and a crew of Irish monks sailed through a door at the western end of the World and downward to the Hell where they witnessed the tortures of the damned on various levels before returning all the way back to the west coast of Ireland after an eight year voyage.

The 'Navagatio' of Saint Brendan. English translations from the original Latin do exist.
http://www.amazon.com/Brendan-Celtic-Saints-Ian-MacDonald/dp/0863151418

The Navagatio may exist on the web as well, but I have been unable to find it. The wikipedia article which contains a variety of interpretations:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Brendan
I considre this one less confusing and more informative than the wikipedia article on Brendan:
http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/02758c.htm

"St. Brendan, conducted by an angel, descended to the lower world, where he witnessed the torments of the Devil and of the damned, and subsequently he came to, the Fortunate Islands, and finally he visited Paradise. At the end of the nine years he returned to Ireland, and gave an account of his adventures."
This quote is from the following link 'The Discovery of America by the Irish':
http://www.sacred-texts.com/neu/nda/nda29.htm

Ikon images of Saint Brendan the Navigator:
http://www.odox.net/Icons-Brendan.htm##1

Tim Severin sailed across the Atlantic in the 1970's in a boat constructed to match the most austere sailing craft of sixth century Ireland.
http://www.timseverin.net/brendan.htm

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Technology, Science & Alt Science / Oddities in Biblical Literalism
« on: February 10, 2007, 02:22:37 PM »
Quote from: "beast"
In John it says that Jesus was crucified the day before the Passover meal.

The Gospel of John does not say that.

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The Lounge / Apostates of Islam - We Left Islam
« on: February 10, 2007, 02:08:36 PM »
Quote from: "Hara Taiki"
It's my belief that atheists are the level headed ones. We don't go out and destroy people's homes, or kill other people themselves because someone doesn't agree with what we believe in.

Religious people are some of the most ignorant "fools" I have ever seen in my life, and the middle east is the basic proof of that.

The decidedly secularist Young Turks and Kemalists who threw out the muslim religion and founded modern Turkey, easily the most secular muslim country, are precisely the people who implemented the Armenian genocide.  They did indeed destroy their homes and killed them in large numbers significantly more than their Ottoman predecessors.

I do not disagree with you that islam is a murderous religion, but it is murderous largely because of its atheistic qualities.  Muslims do not believe in the existence of the Devil.  Yes, they believe in jinn (angels), but it is far from the Christian understanding as they do not distinguish as much between good and bad jinn or between good and evil for that matter.  And muslims do not believe in Hell as Christians understand it.  The expansion of islam at the expense of Christian Orthodoxy was a boon to atheism.

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The Lounge / Get your nominations in....
« on: February 10, 2007, 01:55:28 PM »
Quote from: "Rick_James"
I'm upset I havent recieved a single nomination in any category!

We have just taken care of that.
See my nominations above.

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The Lounge / Ad campaign triggers Boston bomb scare
« on: February 10, 2007, 01:49:43 PM »
Quote from: "Hara Taiki"
Does it look like I care?  Sure there are some really dumb laws, but I've yet to come into conflict with them, so my life has yet to be affected. And until it does, I really don't care.

No not at all, but you asked how america is a totalitarian state.    I sincerely hope neither you nor any others suffer from any tyrannical government.

The fact that you do not care is an assett to tyranny and flies in the face of the propaganda of your american constitution as a government allegedly by the people.

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The Lounge / Ad campaign triggers Boston bomb scare
« on: February 10, 2007, 01:27:38 PM »
Quote from: "Hara Taiki"
How is it a totalitarian state?

Do you even live in the USA? Because I do, and I'm still allowed to follow whatever religion I want, shop wherever I want, go out whenever I want, I still have the basic liberties I have had all my life (and I'm going on 20 now). You just need to learn how to find the loop holes, and if you aren't stupid, you'll do just fine.

I do agree that our President isn't doing the right thing, but if he's as much of a patriot as he says, he will not do anything to compromise the statue of the constitution as it's been for the past 250+ years. For that would be un-patriotic. I'm just hoping that our next president will be a little smarter.

They should just put Bill Clinton back into office.

You are an excellent example of a stupid young american.  I do not live in the US, but I have lived there longer than you have been alive.  The fact that you are restricted to loopholes means that you are living in a dictatorship where your freedoms are limited.  You're obviously unfamiliar with the cause of the anti-federalists who pointed out that the Constitution is a tool of rich to protect their rights.  Not to mention the last 250 years of american history has been a denial of the "rights" granted in the constituion (especially for the non-priveleged classes which usually understand tyranny more easily because they are less brainwashed) and an uphill struggle to gain basic freedoms.  I can live how I want in foreign countries without having to dodge the loopholes necessary in america where personal liberty continues to decline as I have witnessed my entire life.  Do you not realize how pathetic your promise of "the next election" is and how many times I have heard that load of rubbish?

As to Clinton allegedly being anydifferent from Bush, you might want to peruse Cathy O'Brien's autobiography which will open your eyes:
www.trance-formation.com

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Technology, Science & Alt Science / Sea Serpents & Dragons
« on: February 10, 2007, 01:05:26 PM »
Some monks on Mount Athos have encountered dragons.
http://www.inathos.gr/athos/en/

A zealot elder by the name of Sabbas (now reposed) in Nea Skete was walking along one night back in the 1970's in the southern wilderness west of Megisti Lavra with an oil lamp to light the way when a wild boar came running towards him and stopped about five feet away without any pretension of attacking him which was very strange.  Then Sabbas heard a tree fall in the distance.  He heard the sound of many large trees falling as something was cruching them as it came closer to where he and the boar were standing until it got to a distance of twenty metres and stopped.  As there was no electricity for many miles around, the night was too black for him to discern its outline, but as he was praying the large beast approximately twenty metres away turned around and departed.

This is hardly the only account, and I have heard that Jacques Cousteau did not investigate the large submarine caves of Mount Athos because he discerned that dragons are living in them.
http://www.artic.edu/aic/calendar/event?EventID=2494&Month=2_2007&Day=01

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First, I understand that the term "mean" in your context is that 365 + 365 + 365 +366 divided by 4 equals 365.25.  Does "mean" in your context "mean" something else?

Second, the author of the Julian calendar was not Julius Caesar himself but Sosogines of Heliopolis, an Egyptian astronomer.

Third,
Quote from: "Mythix Profit"
No matter how you calculate;23 Septembre of the Julian Calendar is not the Vernal equinox.

You are correct.  As you probably discerned, I was thinking of the autumnal equinox.  I do NOT mean to say that the vernal (Spring) equinox is 23 Septembre.  I do mean to say that the autumnal equinox is on 23 Septembre.  I would like to take advantage of this to point out that I (and other flat Earth believers) have been accused in the past of using words that others need a dictionary to understand.  Let this be proof that sword cuts both ways.

  Fourth, the fact that Clavius was an associate of Galileo says more than the fact that he was a geocentrist.  Claiming that Clavius was a geocentrist says nothing at all as virtually everyone was a geocentrist in the time of Clavius, but you asserted that he was a STAUNCH geocentrist.  This sounds like you thought of that adjective for Clavius for the first time ever while you were typing due to the fact that friends of Galileo hardly strike one as STAUNCH geocentrists.  However, if you have a reference other than another unsubstantiated opinion then I would like to know of it.  I think that Clavius already had enough trouble in promoting the Gregorian calendar alone that if he had also been a heliocentrist publicly that the Gregorian calendar would have been rejected by the papacy during his generation.  I am sceptical about Clavius actually being a geocentrist privately.

  Your statistics are in order.  While you have said nothing of which I was unaware (such as UAC, Dionysius Exiguus, et cetera), I do thank you as you are unlike most others on this forum who bring no knowledge to a discussion and in my opinion contribute nothing exceot the basest and obvious replies (those whom beast calls the new noobs).  

  However, your opinions and your statistics are two different things.  The most important thing to point out is that we have a fundamental difference as to how we define Christians.  Many of those whom you define as "christians" (both ancient and modern) are faiths which are heretical.  In lieu of more involved discussion, I will simply add that those sects which are NON-CHALCEDONIAN such as the monophysites which included many Egyptian Copts, Ethiopians, Jacobite Syrians, Keralan Indians, and Armenians after the Synod of Chalcedon in AD 451and especially after the early sixth century (not to mention other heretical groups such as Nestorians) compose most of those who adopted calendrical errors in varying degrees.  Non-Chalcedonian is an umbrella term which includes a wide array of sects, and none of them are Christian reguardless of the fact that they considre themselves to be so.  You may considre them Christians but I do not.  

  Most calendrical deviances emanated from non-Chalcedonians.  An example are the Ethiopians who incorporate a strong Jewish element in their calendar due to that nation's adoption of the Hebrew religion almost a millenium before the Christ appeared.  As a matter of fact, an inclination towards the Jewish Calendar in some form was the single most common factor in all the deviances from the Orthodox Christian Calendar.  This applies to the Gregorian Calendar as well.  Clavius was a German jew, and his calendar often places easter before the jewish passover.  I am saying that the jewish heretic Clavius not only knew his calendar was scientifically wrong, but his placing of Easter before the jewish passover was a deliberate anti-Christian strategy aimed at both weaning Christians away from understanding the Church Fathers as if they were foreigners (which is what the enemies of the Christian religion desire) and destroying Orthodox unity which is exactly what happened after Greece and Russia finally adopted Clavius's calendar in 1924 and 1917 respectively.  This is one of the reasons why the Constantinopolitan Patriarch Jeremias II rejected the Gregorian calendar in 1582.  The Gregorian calendar is an ally of the modern ecumenical movement which has the aim of a one World religion under the synagogue of Satan.  The only difference between Clavius and the more ancient heretics is that he has been more successful than his predecessors, and there is nothing new under the Sun.

  I should point out that economies were granted to some ancient (and primarily certain Eastern) Christians who although Orthodox persisted in retaining ancient Jewish aspects of their calendars.  This does not mean that they were right.  It means that a non-dogmatical difference was tolerated because it was not one which was spreading and retained those particular Christians within the Church.  I have not read everything, but I do not have knowledge that this tolerance was ever granted with respect to Easter.  The main point is that one calendar has clearly been atested to and consistently used by the Church since its foundation.  Your remark about differing calendars followed by different "christian" groups is a mark of protestant (or protestant influenced) alienation with the concept of Orthodox unity.  A complete midunderstanding of the Constantinian era is another erroneous product of the sixteenth century to which you apparently subscribe, and it inhibits your understanding of the calendar issue in the Early Church.

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Technology, Science & Alt Science / The Gates of the North
« on: February 08, 2007, 06:04:14 PM »
theonlydann,

Why apologize for anything?  Erasmus's conclusions are predictable and unoriginal.  A gnat has more faith than he does.  Does Erasmus's mundane mind decide the truth?  That is his business.  Not all men have faith.

Anyway, I believe that these things are the kind of thing you hide from in caves and inaccessible places while praying with bitter tears rather than fight which would be a quick way to die.  Did you read the description of these monsters by Saint Methodius?  I believe these are also referred to in the Apocalypse of Saint John.

  "Then the "Gates of the North" will be opened and the strength of those nations which Alexander shut up there will go forth. The whole earth will be terrified at the sight of them; men will be afraid and flee in terror to hide themselves in mountains and caves and graves. They will die of fright and very many will be wasted with fear. There will be no one to bury the bodies. The tribes which will go forth from the North will eat the flesh of men and will drink the blood of beasts like water. They will eat unclean serpents, scorpions, and every kind of filthy and abominable beast and reptile which crawls upon the earth. They will consume the dead bodies of beasts of burden and even women's abortions. They will slay the young and take them from their mothers and eat them. They will corrupt the earth and contaminate it. No one will be able to stand against them."
  "After a week of years, when they have already captured the city of Jappa, the Lord will send one of the princes of his host and strike them down in a moment. After this the King of the Romans will go down and live in Jerusalem for seven and a half-seven times. When the ten and a half years are completed the Son of Perdition will appear."
http://www.rexresearch.com/prophist/phf3eu~1.htm#PHF31

However, from the context of prophecies, I do not believe that this terrible prophecy of Saint Methodius will be fulfilled until after a third World War which exterminates the power of the Ishmaelites (the muslim religion).  Yet, it seems from the context of Orthodox Christian prophecies (and in particular that of the Serbian Mitar Tarabich), it appears that we are due up for a famine.

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Technology, Science & Alt Science / The Gates of the North
« on: February 08, 2007, 05:27:01 PM »
Mount Elbrus of Russia, known to the ancients as Mount Strobilus, is the strongest likelihood for the location of the Gates of the North visited by Alexandre the Great as mentioned in the prophecy of Saint Methodius for the following reasons:

1) It is not only the tallest mountain in the Caucausus Mountain Range, but the tallest mountain in all Europe.  

2) The most striking feature of Mount Elbrus is that it has two summit peaks - eastern and western which are only 1.5 kilometres apart.  This kind of summit fits the description of a large mountain formed by two mountains suddenly moving together from a great distance.  The fact that the peks are located to the East and West (as opposed to the North and South) fits the description and appelation of "Gates of the North."

  If Mount Elbrus is indeed the location, then the unavoidable conclusion is that a demonic and monstrous race dwells locked within Mount Elbrus and possibly other subterranean parts of the Caucausus.

An English translation of most of the significant prophecies of Saint Methodius, the fourth century Bishop of Patara:
http://www.rexresearch.com/prophist/phf3eu~1.htm#PHF31

Synopsis of the life of Saint Methodius:
http://ocafs.oca.org/FeastSaintsLife.asp?FSID=101759

The 'Ethiopian Book of Alexandre' which was translated into English by E.A. Wallis Budge contains an account of Alexandre's construction of the huge rampart in the north.

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The Lounge / The Holocaust didn't happen.
« on: February 08, 2007, 02:46:52 PM »
Quote from: "Areopagite"
Quote from: "Red Skull"
I have mixed feelings about Tito

I have a question for you as well. What is your stance towards Turkey in the EU?

First, the European Union should be dissolved because as an anti-Christian organization which attacks legitmate sovereignty, it is a tool of jewish zionists.
Second, to the extent that Turkish membership would give more power to the Turklish government, then I obviously oppose Turkish membership in the EU.  The Turkish government has for a long time been composed of two factors:
1) A Jewish clique known as the Donmeh
2) The Turkish Military

http://www.grecoreport.com/the_young_turks_who_were_they.htm
http://www.dr-jurjevic.org/clanci/turkey_china.htm
http://www.jrbooksonline.com/HTML-docs/The%20Real%20Jew%20-%20Turkey.htm

As with the USSR, in spite of controlled information the truth about history has begun to slip through the cracks into Turkey.  An excellent example of this is the magisterial expose of the Armenian genocide by Tanner Akcam, a Turkish historian (!) who had been sentenced to a ten year jail term for expressing views which dissent with the Turkish government's falsified view of history.
http://www.stvartanbookstore.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=5283&HS=1

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Yeah, the statement above is a good example of how heliocentric astronomy bequeaths a faulty understanding of numbers and corresponding false assumptions relating to calendrical implications thereof.

  Everyone knows (or should know) that there is a difference between tropical and sidereal years.  No one is disputing that.  Incidentally, it would help clarify and eliminate some of the confusion to point out that the annual movement of the Sun to which Rowbotham refers in 'Earth Not a Globe' is the sidereal year.  

  Without disputing the statement, we would request a reference for the following:
Quote from: "Mythix Profit"
Julian calendars are based on this tropical year.

Quote from: "Mythix Profit"
The Gregorian Calendar was devised both because the lunar calendar had grown conspicuously wrong
You realise that both the Julian and Gregorian calendars are solar calendars, do you not?  (If by lunar calendar you are referring to the computation of Easter, then you are indeed ignorant and misinformed.)

Quote from: "Mythix Profit"
The mean Julian Calendar year is slightly too long (365.25)

Wrong.  First of all the "mean" Julian calendar is irrelevant.  The Julian Calendar and not any kind of average is the only thing of any importance.  Too long for what?  The Julian Calendar is not too long for astronomical exactness.
Quote from: "Mythix Profit"
the vernal equinox slowly drifts backwards through Julian calendar years.
Wrong.  It was always and still remains on the same day, namely 23 Septembre of the Julian Calendar (the conception of the Forerunner Saint John the Baptist which coincides with the beginning of Autumn after which point light gets dimmer until the Birth of Christ on 25 Decembre) which corresponds to 6 October on the antichristian calendar of the jew Clavius and his Jesuits.  Clavius was the founder of the Gregorian calendar in case that slipped past you.  Anyway, were you around to measure the length of days and nights at the solstices and equinoxes during the Middle Ages?  No.  So who are you relying on for your faulty information?  Followers are Clavius.   This jew only represented one very anti-traditional, heretical, and non-scientific school of thought that had many detractors.  So you choose to believe the assertions of the Gregorian school and assert that their conclusions are facts while totally ignoring and failing to mention that they have their detractors.  Your "facts" are outright lies.
Quote from: "Mythix Profit"
This caused problems in computing the date of Easter.

Such ignorance.  How?!!  Do you know at all what you are talking about?  We are waiting for you to explain the details on this one.  Or did you read it somewhere in a modern science text and unquestioningly consume it as truth?  I recommend you read 'Discourses Against the Jews' by Saint John Chrysostom which is focused on the dating of Easter and exactly how it is determined.
Easter does involve a Lunar observation which is why the date of Easter varies from year to year.  That is why the Fasts and Feasts associated with Easter are called Moveable Fasts and Moveable Feasts.
Quote from: "Mythix Profit"
Due to the precession of the equinoxes; the exact time and day on which these events is observed shifts year to year

In other words, you believe in rubbish like the absurd idea that the Polaris Star will rotate out of its position to be filled by another in several thousand years like musical chairs.  
My question is how long until you change your own opinion in favor of a newer and even more absurd theory?

Mythix Profit is essentially one who has followed the dictatorship of false science by attempting to impose some kind of evolutionary theory upon the Heavens and trying to pass it off as cold facts by presenting lots of data alongside novel interpretations of those numbers which are also deliberately devoid of any accompanying ancient Christian explanations or understanding which he maligns and refuses to considre or even investigate.  So much for an objective presentation.

Quote from: "Rick_James"
Ours is in June normally

24 June - Birth of Saint John the Baptist
Note that beginning at this time, light only decreases until the Birth of Christ six months later.  This is characteristic of the end of any age when disorder and darkness increase until restitution occurs at the completion of the cycle.

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The Lounge / Ad campaign triggers Boston bomb scare
« on: February 03, 2007, 09:01:17 AM »
Quote from: "beast"
I completely fail to understand how that could have caused a bomb scare.

It is easier to understand when one recognizes that america is a totalitarian state which terrorizes individuals not any less than than the Soviet Union or China ever did.  The major difference is that americans are more skilled and profound in the art of lies.

Though the turks and israelis do give them a run for their money.

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The Lounge / Apostates of Islam - We Left Islam
« on: February 03, 2007, 07:33:28 AM »
Quote from: "SPrinkZ"
Atheistic humanism isn't a bad thing.
Islam is also a good thing.
Orthodox Christians have been at the forefront of opposition to Islam since Islam began, and humanist (especially atheistic) opposition to Islam is much more recent.  Never the less, both are enemies of Islam albeit to a large extent for different reasons.

Quote from: "SPrinkZ"
We'll see what happens.
The Ishmaelite power (Islam) will be destroyed by the West in a successful military war led by a Christian monarch, but not until the West first destroys itself by infighting so violent as to form a river of blood running through Constantinople and to such an extent that not a solitary sinner or non-Christian remains in the entire West.  Then the West will be ready to conquer the Ishmaelites.  What is requıred to defeat islam is not numbers or military might, but righteousness.

  This statement is not a policy proposal.  It is the essence of a tenth century prophecy.  I intend to post a full translation.

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The Lounge / Get your nominations in....
« on: February 03, 2007, 07:17:01 AM »
Most Annoying - all the RE n00bs
Smartest - Rick_James
Dumbest - Erasmus
Most Entertaining - SPrinkZ
Quote from: "SPrinkZ"
Quote from: "Ubuntu"
Quote from: "SPrinkZ"
Islam is also a good thing. It's just some people tend to perverse the beliefs. The belief itself is good, it's the people who use it, they are the ones who are bad.


That's like saying poison gas chambers are good, but the people who use them are bad. The existence of an instrument of torment and death is still considered a negative impact on human beings of its own right.


How is religion synonymous with a gas chamber? A gas chamber is a concrete object, religion is an abstraction. Do you have to make yourself look like a quasi-intellectual at every turn? If this is what all atheists are like, I might just turn theistic just so I can stop being compared to you idiots. You're dumber than a Mormon, and they believe some really crazy shit.

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The Lounge / The Chickens Will Come Home to Roost
« on: February 03, 2007, 07:08:50 AM »
Quote from: "Hara Taiki"
I think you people need to lighten up and get a life. :?

I think the Spanish government needs to lighten up its GAL terror attacks against the Basques.

And western civilization needs to apologize to the ETA.

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