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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Even if God exists...
« on: December 20, 2009, 10:24:25 PM »
He isn't benevolent. He created Hell. A perfect being, who is incapable of doing evil, created a place of infinite torment and misery.

If you studied christian history, you would note that hell takes on many forms. Know how many incarnations the devil went through before it became a horned male? Those who controlled the church controlled what it wrote, who it supported, and what the common populace believed.

Hell was a scare tactic no different then terrorism is today. It is an attempt at scaring people into following a single goal. Guess what other dicta... ahem... leaders used such tactics? Hitler, Saddam, that russian guy who ordered any soldiers attempting retreat to be shot, Rush Limba... Well he is a leader in a sense... George Bush...

What I'm saying is that this is a common tactic, a predictable pattern. Humanity won't socially evolve until we get past these tactics. And believe it or not, we are. Hell inspired many people to turn from pagan beliefs that were once held sacred. Hitler didn't convince every German that his way was the best way, and people still ran from the front lines among the Russian ranks. Now-a-days people are asking whether or not terrorism is really all it's cracked up to be despite 9-11 (some are even pointing at 9-11 and disputing that our own gov. was involved somehow). And in 20 years, another leader will attempt to use a scare tactic of God knows what proportions, only to have a shoe thrown at him.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: So help me God
« on: December 20, 2009, 10:13:49 PM »
Here is a twist then. A.A. is a religious organization. no question about it. If you dispute this, well fine but it is.

Should courts be allowed to sentence people to A.A. if they disagree with the religious aspects of the crap? Because, and if you haven't been there please take my word for it, they don't like you much if you won't hold their dirty Alcoholic hands at the end of the meeting for the Lords Prayer.

AA is only religious in the sense that it promotes the use of a "higher power" to help an individual to quit drinking. That higher power is not necessarily God, or even a deity. It is just as often one's own willpower or support of fellows.

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Flat Earth General / Re: Contributions to Society
« on: December 20, 2009, 10:08:14 PM »
Great thread derail guys. What about the topic at hand?
New and improved alternative FAQ:
http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=30499.0

I think his point was, what has FE thought contributed to society beyond these forums. What have they done to radically change the ideology of how people think? I seriously want to know.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Easy Question
« on: December 20, 2009, 09:54:17 PM »
All of the above. It is possible that none of them are correct, however it is just as possible that all of them are correct.

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The Lounge / Re: Man commits suicide 'online'
« on: March 23, 2007, 05:04:59 PM »
Probably "online love" related.

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-5 on a scale of 1-10 for originality.

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The Lounge / Re: So, anybody herad from dann lately?
« on: March 23, 2007, 04:42:11 PM »
He was on earlier - his name was listed as online anyway. He didn't post.

His name is listed as online right now.

Maybe he is trying to be a classical troll.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: The Root of All Evil- $$$$$$$
« on: March 23, 2007, 04:38:19 PM »
I will!

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The Lounge / Re: So, anybody herad from dann lately?
« on: March 23, 2007, 04:34:10 PM »
He abandoned us!?!?! I'm sad :(

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: The Root of All Evil- $$$$$$$
« on: March 23, 2007, 04:29:34 PM »
I refuse!

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The Lounge / Re: Jesus Still Alive?
« on: March 23, 2007, 04:28:25 PM »
I've looked it up and the author/artist was a British person. :P He must have been veeeeeery bored...

He isn't the one looking up the nationality of authors of kids books.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: The Root of All Evil- $$$$$$$
« on: March 23, 2007, 04:01:01 PM »
*mental note: first thing to do as governor of Earth is to abolish pride*

cheers mate. ;)

People would smack you.

Seriously, many people just don't WANT help. They feel that they can handle the situation themselves.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: The Root of All Evil- $$$$$$$
« on: March 23, 2007, 03:57:57 PM »
I didn't say I'd spend all of it! Just enough to stick a decent hospital and school or two here and there. Oh and enough to hire an FBI agent to kill people like Mugabe. The world would be a better place if I were in charge!

Would not!

Again, a couple of hospitals won't do much good. In fact it could possibly cause serious harm. Without sufficient hospitals, you have crap loads of sick people gathering together and a facility that is unable to receive them all properly. You would create breeding grounds for disease to spread and fester.

Schools would suffer a similar problem. They would also make prime targets for terrorist attacks and what not. Best thing to do for Africa would be to have a major country simply take it over and attempt to clean up the mess. Obviously such an effort would get bloody since people have that silly thing called pride.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: The Root of All Evil- $$$$$$$
« on: March 23, 2007, 03:45:36 PM »
I was going to do that before this thread was made. :P

Lol...sorry. Didn't mean to. :(

You so did!

I wouldn't dump money into Africa for the simple reason that it would disrupt the world balance too quickly. If I became a leak and dumped funds into Africa then U.S.A.'s economy would degrade by exactly that much. The world economy would also suffer since 5 million dollars is no where NEAR enough to get all of Africa into the world economy, meanwhile it takes a loss from America's drop in it's own economy.

In order to truly help the country, you need to support it in such a way as to allow it to rise to power on it's own.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: The Root of All Evil- $$$$$$$
« on: March 23, 2007, 03:31:48 PM »
well yeah, can't forego a state of the art pc system. I'd probably take my money to Africa and build some facilities...I'm going to Ghana in my gap year I've decided. Volunteering at an orphanage.

Fine one up me :p Cheater!

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: God and the constitution
« on: March 23, 2007, 03:31:16 PM »
Do the following phrases discriminate against atheists?
  • Whereas Canada is founded upon the principles that recognize the supremacy of God and the rule of law...1
  • In the name of the Most Holy Trinity, from Whom is all authority and to Whom, as our final end, all actions both of men and States must be referred, We, the people of Ireland, humbly acknowledging all our obligations to our Divine Lord, Jesus Christ, Who sustained our fathers through centuries of trial...2
  • Although religion and the State are separate, the people of the Fiji Islands acknowledge that worship and reverence of God are the source of good government and leadership.3
  • In the name of God Almighty!4
  • ...no law can be contrary to the beliefs and provisions of the sacred religion of Islam.5

Post other god-affirming phrases from constitutions.


End Notes:
1. Canadia - Constitution Act 1982, preamble.
2. Ireland - Constitution, preamble.
3. Fiji - Constitution, section 5.
4. Switzerland - Constitution, preamble.
5. Afghanistan - Constitution, article 3.


Honestly? No not at all.

What would make a discriminating statement in a constitution would be if it said "Thou shalt believe in God or die!". So far I don't know of any sane countries that actively deport atheists. So you can't say that any country at all discriminates against atheists.

People seem to confuse the meaning of the word discrimination.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: The Root of All Evil- $$$$$$$
« on: March 23, 2007, 03:27:34 PM »
not for me...I seek only a confortable home, a loving bloke, maybe a child or two, no grievances (had too many already in my life) and a job I'm happy in.

That is what I seek.

If I won the lottery tomorrow I would still be living in this apartment and working at a "dead end" job, I'd just have a bank account with 5+ million dollars in it... And a nice car and a computer system.

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The Lounge / Re: Jesus Still Alive?
« on: March 23, 2007, 12:56:27 PM »
Most probably British first.

No American dresses like a dumbass...

I also am playing the part of an arrogant American scumbag... for effect...

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: The Root of All Evil- $$$$$$$
« on: March 21, 2007, 02:51:11 PM »
Do you fools really think that money is evil?


What is money?

Money is a universal value which can be exchanged for goods and services.
It replaces a bartering system.

Without money, we would be forced to accept one of two systems:
1. A bartering system, in which you must trade goods and services directly.
  This is a very complicated and unnecesary system.  Goods and services must be traded directly, meaning in order to get what you want from a merchant, you must have what he needs.  You cannot hope for a standard 'price' on anything, as peoples' wants and needs would change everytime a sale is conducted.  In addition, specialization is discouraged.  Why would anyone want to study physics when they have to grow their own corn?
2. A communist system, in which everyone receives a percentage of the profit and everyone does a portion of the work.
  Communist systems allow the weak to suceed, and punish the strong.  A person's worth is no longer determined by their actions or thoughts, but by the very fact that they are human.  With no impetus to suceed, why bother?

There is a simple rule in the Universe: Life is not fair.  It never will be, and it never has been.  Believe it or not some people are BETTER than others.  This is not becuase of their race, religion, sex, or any other aspect of those people.  It is only due to one trait:

These persons' ability.


As to the belief that 'the rich man runs things... boo hoo hoo...'

Guess what?  They got rich.  For the case of those who were born into money, they had damn well be able to maintain and preserve it, or they will not be rich for long.

Also, do you really think yourself incapable of reaching their heights?  Honestly, if you think that you have already failed, then you might as well not try.  Just give up, get a minimum wage job, and make damn sure that when I say 'no mayo' I get 'no mayo.'

Whiny prick.

I can't stop laughing because it is so true!

personally, I agree to some level with Richard Dawkins that Religion is the root of all evil.

Also so very true.

Also figuring out the root of all evil isn't the key, and at this point I don't believe there is a root of all evil. But since evil has taken the form of a fully grown red wood, I believe we have more important things to worry about then the roots.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Free Will
« on: March 21, 2007, 02:45:37 PM »
...hell, free will is a confusing topic. :P

I think it is a comparison thing.

Compare your thinking to that of a obsessive compulsive person who HAS to do certain things certain ways and can not deviate from that path. You now have free will to not wash your hands or scrub your feet or flip the light switch to the off position 50 times.

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Technology, Science & Alt Science / Re: Wooly Mammoths
« on: March 21, 2007, 02:38:13 PM »
look at humans. The majority are decent people, but there are still some who are complete bastards.

I think you got that backwards :)

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Can someone help me understand why some people feel the need to scientifically justify their religion in such a way? It doesn't make sense to me... religion is religion and science is science theres no need for them to fight and they most certainly do not intersect... this just bums me out ^^;

The article is a parody, lampooning creationism. The Onion is a joke news site.

The scary thing is that religious fanatics will likely use this and state it as fact now that the possibility has been presented to them.

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Technology, Science & Alt Science / Re: Wooly Mammoths
« on: March 20, 2007, 08:12:40 PM »
no shit! of course they're not felines! but birds can fly, and as far as i know, penguins can't

Who said birds can fly?

Just because a majority of the species can do something doesn't mean all of them have too.

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Technology, Science & Alt Science / Re: Did Somebody Ask a Question?
« on: March 16, 2007, 12:17:04 PM »
Diego, how could you trick me so?  :( :( :(
Hey, it's what I do? I'm dangerous...You know, some people call me a badass...but really...Okay, yeah, I'm totally a badass.

Anyways, further discussion will take place in this thread based on the fact that I own a time machine via the proof that I have given in this thread (what with my predictions of what will happen and such).

~D-Draw

I think you confused time machines with a quick wit. Still that was awesome.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Religious apparitions
« on: March 13, 2007, 05:59:05 PM »
The mind see's what it wants to see.
A vivid imagination, mental instability/agitation, religious fervour all can cause a person to hallucinate: animal shapes in clouds; voices in their heads; secret messages in their cheerios; Jesus in the wallpaper.

Clearly those are not hallucinations at all.  The image does look like a person, I think the vast majority of people would agree.  Interpreting something as an image of a particular person is not a hallucination.

Ink Blot tests.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: This is Not a Pipe
« on: March 13, 2007, 05:52:20 PM »
God in this day and age anything can become a word. I suppose smacktard is a word too huh?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Intelligence in Nature
« on: March 13, 2007, 05:50:30 PM »
Sources?

One of the things Steven Pinker demonstrates is that our ability to learn language is instinctual; we have a natural instinct to learn language. 

You can read all about this in his book; The Language Instinct

http://www.amazon.com/Language-Instinct-Steven-Pinker/dp/0060976519

You're looking at this issue from a very shallow level.  Sure nothing has the instinct to do surgery, including humans, but the neurology that has led us to do surgery, speak, go to school, build societies, have morals, all appears to be instinctual; we naturally learn, we naturally see patterns, we naturally socialise etc.


That is also absurd.

You have to LEARN language in order to survive in a world that revolves around verbal communication. LEARN IT.

You are not born with the knowledge to communicate with others. The only instinctual form of communication that humans have is Empathy or the ability to pick up on emotion. Humans do NOT need language to co-exist with one another any more then a pack of dogs do. In fact there was a child found in an urban area who had essentially been raised by dogs. After years of therapy and rehabilitation he was able to speak and understand the English language and he is able to understand dogs but he can't converse with them as he would another human being. Our ability to converse with one another is a complicated thing but is not vital to our survival on any scale as far as mother nature is concerned. It is a convenience that is only vital for our development as a social animal.

And my point regarding my mom's leg surgery was to point out that no amount of education will turn an idiot into a genius. All it does is put idiots into a position to fuck up harder.

I believe we are getting our meanings behind the word instinct mixed up. Instinct knowledge attained at birth. Various animals know how to survive from the day they are born and will probably never learn anything new in their entire existence.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: This is Not a Pipe
« on: March 13, 2007, 05:39:16 PM »
I never said it was correct because people agreed with me. I gave ample evidence why it was correct. I merely pointed out that a growing number of people think you are a complete fucking dolt. Have a nice day.

So people think I am a COMPLETE (absolute) dolt, because of my misconception? All right! If that's all it takes, why don't you learn some grammar and punctuation? Because I can take one instance of your misconception of punctuation/grammar rules and use that as evidence to claim you're a total idiot, but I don't think I can account the wealth of your knowledge for one thing. Bai. It's nighttime here.

At this point you are only adding loser to the long list of your failings as an intellectual.

I happen to think you are an idiot in every way possible. You could re-write the theory of gravity and win a noble peace prize tomorrow and I would continue to think you an idiot. An educated idiot albeit, but still an idiot.

Then I guess I'll continue to think you're a bigoted fucktard.

Well I'd have to say you have no idea what either of those terms mean. Especially since "fucktard" isn't even a word.

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Technology, Science & Alt Science / Re: Wooly Mammoths
« on: March 13, 2007, 03:10:44 PM »
Wolfie... you are thinking SEPTIC... this fella is just a bad speller. sceptic is not a word.

Which is why I said it implies.

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Technology, Science & Alt Science / Re: Wooly Mammoths
« on: March 13, 2007, 03:07:41 PM »
I am a wooly mammoth and would like to say many good friends of mine were killed by humans. I was spared and now work for IBM.

Bob the wooly mammoth.

I'm not sure if you meant to do this or not but your name implies that you are a storage unit for human bio-waste.

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