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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Why does the Sun have always the same size?

« on: May 14, 2014, 05:57:37 PM »

How about you take your paint version and blur the edge of the circle in the same way as the sun blurs. While you're at it, you might want to create the gradient that extends out from the sun disc and through the background in 29silhouette's version but not yours.

Alright, so maybe I can't make as believable of an image in paint, but it's close. If I made the picture in Photoshop or GIMP I could easily recreate the blurs on the edges and the gradients. However, I do not have enough time to throw away on such an endeavor. If you notice, it took 29 a long time to respond with the actually images... he had ample time to create the noon photograph in Photoshop or GIMP. If you're trying to say that blur and gradients can't be done with computer generated images then you're a f*&king moron.

Or ya know, maybe he had to wait to post them, because he had to take a picture at noon time, then wait a few hours for the sun to be setting, to take the other ones.

Why don't you collect photos of your growing sun then? Shouldn't even really need anything like he used, just a pair of sunglasses over top of the camera  lens should work.

Sunglasses may not be enough. You may need there or four depending on the camera. I would love to see his pictures.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Gravitational conundrums

« on: May 14, 2014, 05:20:09 PM »

It was meant literally.

So you do admit to threatening my life?

No i forgot the word not. This is off topic. move on.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Gravitational conundrums

« on: May 14, 2014, 05:15:50 PM »

Ok I read up on it. It goes as.... Hypothesis.. Theory... Fact.   So where does the FE fall with no facts?

Once again you're wrong. Nothing is "fact" in scientific endeavors. It goes: hypothesis --> theory. That's it.

No wonder all of your posts make no sense.

A bullet to your head and you die is fact. Does that make sense?

Starman, I can completely understand that anyone would take this as a threat.  Please, let's keep it civil in the upper fora.

He seem not to understand the term fact. It was an example I used at the moment. It was not meant literally. Is it not you that said this site is not to be taken seriously.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Gravitational conundrums

« on: May 14, 2014, 05:12:59 PM »

This is off topic but your dead body will not be abstract it will be fact. You said fact does not exist. It is fair to say that the FE factually does not exist.

The fact that you shot me in the head is the fact. Me dying is not.

Also, I've reported you for threatening my life.

Don't be silly. It just a example. Don't you know the difference?

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Gravitational conundrums

« on: May 14, 2014, 02:53:29 PM »

Ok I read up on it. It goes as.... Hypothesis.. Theory... Fact.   So where does the FE fall with no facts?

Once again you're wrong. Nothing is "fact" in scientific endeavors. It goes: hypothesis --> theory. That's it.

No wonder all of your posts make no sense.

A bullet to your head and you die is fact. Does that make sense?

Is that a backhanded threat?

Either way, how do you know that I would die? What says I don't move on to the next phase of existence? Are you capable of abstract thought?

This is off topic but your dead body will not be abstract it will be fact. You said fact does not exist. It is fair to say that the FE factually does not exist.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Gravitational conundrums

« on: May 14, 2014, 02:47:57 PM »

Ok I read up on it. It goes as.... Hypothesis.. Theory... Fact.   So where does the FE fall with no facts?

Once again you're wrong. Nothing is "fact" in scientific endeavors. It goes: hypothesis --> theory. That's it.

No wonder all of your posts make no sense.

A bullet to your head and you die is fact. Does that make sense?

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Gravitational conundrums

« on: May 14, 2014, 02:43:18 PM »

Ok I read up on it. It goes as.... Hypothesis.. Theory... Fact.   So where does the FE fall with no facts?

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Gravitational conundrums

« on: May 14, 2014, 02:33:45 PM »

Aether was formed during the Big Bang

Good job, you have just admitted that gravity exists. That's more than most FE'ers have admitted.

During the first 10^-30 seconds or so of the universe, gravity was repulsive and the universe expanded by a factor of 10^30. This is a fundamental element of the Big Bang and there is strong evidence to support it.

According to what? Your "accepted" theory of the universe? Give me a break.

It is not a theory because there is evidence it did happened.

Starman, sometimes I want to smack you around. Of course it's still a theory. It's a highly regarded theory supported by evidence but it's still a theory.

Sorry but I could be wrong. I understood a theory with evidence is called Hypothesis

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Gravitational conundrums

« on: May 14, 2014, 02:23:19 PM »

Aether was formed during the Big Bang

Good job, you have just admitted that gravity exists. That's more than most FE'ers have admitted.

During the first 10^-30 seconds or so of the universe, gravity was repulsive and the universe expanded by a factor of 10^30. This is a fundamental element of the Big Bang and there is strong evidence to support it.

According to what? Your "accepted" theory of the universe? Give me a break.

It is not a theory because there is evidence it did happened.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Gravitational conundrums

« on: May 14, 2014, 02:20:09 PM »

Vauxhall... Is the big bang your new theory of Aether. How come it was talk about 150 years ago. They did even know galaxies existed.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Gravitational conundrums

« on: May 14, 2014, 02:16:59 PM »

Sorry but you first. I know you want to divert your answer with endless question but one at a time. I ask a simple question and not a series of question. We were debating  Aetheric Winds not gravity.

Are you saying that you cannot answer my questions?

Besides, I have already answered your question. Try to keep up, Starboy.

I can but like you said one at a time. You first.

I have answered your question, Starboy.

Please read previous posts. Aether is made of aether which was created during the big bang. If you don't accept my answer, too bad. That doesn't change the fact that I gave you an explanation already. Now, answer my questions please.

Ok. Now you say it comes from Aether. Where does Aether come from? 

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Gravitational conundrums

« on: May 14, 2014, 02:10:54 PM »

Sorry but you first. I know you want to divert your answer with endless question but one at a time. I ask a simple question and not a series of question. We were debating  Aetheric Winds not gravity.

Are you saying that you cannot answer my questions?

Besides, I have already answered your question. Try to keep up, Starboy.

I can but like you said one at a time. You first.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Gravitational conundrums

« on: May 14, 2014, 02:09:56 PM »

"Dark matter is a type of matter in astronomy and cosmology hypothesized to account for effects that appear to be the result of mass where no such mass can be seen. Dark matter cannot be seen directly with telescopes; evidently it neither emits nor absorbs light or other electromagnetic radiation at any significant level. It is otherwise hypothesized to simply be matter that is not reactant to light."

Paraphrased: "dark matter is something we made up to explain things that we cannot explain"

How convenient that it's invisible to the human eye.

That is completely not true.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Gravitational conundrums

« on: May 14, 2014, 02:07:57 PM »

"Because it is dark" is not a serious answer. Try again.

I can explain how dark matter is theorized but that is not the topic.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Gravitational conundrums

« on: May 14, 2014, 02:05:25 PM »

Where do Aetheric Wind comes from?

I will answer your question, but before I do I would like to ask some of my own... Where does mass come from? Where does dark matter come from? Where does gravity come from? What happens to the force you perceive as "gravity" when there is no mass? Does it just vanish? How is that possible?

Sorry but you first. I know you want to divert your answer with endless question but one at a time. I ask a simple question and not a series of question. We were debating  Aetheric Winds not gravity.

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Flat Earth General / Re: Could The Earth Be Flat *and* Spherical?

« on: May 14, 2014, 01:02:00 PM »

And if the earth would be a square the sun, moon and planets would be square also.

No. You are making an assumption, not to mention that is a huge leap in logic. Just because the Earth is a certain way doesn't mean other planets conform to that.

I won't get into it but that is what separates logical thinking people with abstract thinking theorist.

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Flat Earth General / Re: Could The Earth Be Flat *and* Spherical?

« on: May 14, 2014, 12:56:32 PM »

It was only a matter of time before the NPC's showed up. And things were going so well...

NPC? New people conspiracy?

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Gravitational conundrums

« on: May 14, 2014, 12:53:50 PM »

Where do Aetheric Wind comes from?

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Flat Earth General / Re: Could The Earth Be Flat *and* Spherical?

« on: May 14, 2014, 12:51:25 PM »

What if the Earth is a square, and there are actually other civilizations on the other sides? We're only one side of the square. That would explain ufo's, lizard people, and why water is wet.

And if the earth would be a square the sun, moon and planets would be square also. On that point why is the FE not oval or rectangular shape? There is a reason why the earth is round but the FE'ers don't know why.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Why does the Sun have always the same size?

« on: May 14, 2014, 07:58:21 AM »

Yeah and that's why you are clueless.  Airplanes fly at a much lower altitude.

Airline fly about 8 miles up and even higher.The air is getting pretty thin and i am sure you can't dismiss that.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Why does the Sun have always the same size?

« on: May 14, 2014, 03:24:23 AM »

Good pictures 29silhouette.Their theory of atmospheric lensing is too perfect if that were the case. Besides the atmosphere heat waves would effect it.

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Flat Earth General / Re: Beautiful...

« on: May 14, 2014, 03:16:07 AM »

You are really a bigger fool than I thought. One keeps three days supply food and and water in the house, in case the tap is cut off. One keeps it in the basement in case of a tornado. During a snowed in situation, if the power grid is down, which is known to occur, one keeps these things available that do not need refrigeration, and do not necessarily need to be cooked, although they might taste better if they are. But if the stove doesn't work due to no power, if the fridge is out, if the tap is off, or the water isn't safe to drink, one keeps food and water in the basement. And one keeps a kit with a radio that doesn't require the grid. I know you haven't got much in the way of brains, but try, just once, to demonstrate that you at least graduated sixth grade.

Not to mention the more paranoid people that DO hold emergency supplies in their vehicle

Don't forget that they try to leave the city and run out of gas in the line up.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Why does the Sun have always the same size?

« on: May 13, 2014, 05:50:23 PM »

Luke, the sun is not seen as light until it reflects from the dome.  The EM waves come from the center of the Earth and are transformed and seen as light on the dome.

This would be nearly impossible unless it used frequency-doubling or fluorescence which in the vast majority of instances are man-made. We would also detect mass amounts of electromagnetic waves regardless of wavelength, and if they were any higher wavelength than ultraviolet we would get cancer. Any lower than infrared and our radio waves would be rendered useless.

That's why I believe the real moon/sun is at the center of Antarctica....and the flat Earth map is flipped.  There have been plenty of reports of compasses and air craft malfunctioning over Antarctica.  Is the Aurora Borealis fluorescent?

There is so many things wrong your statements. Why is it I never get the same story when it comes to FE theory? I never heard anything about the real moon/sun at the center of Antarctica. References please?

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Orbits

« on: May 13, 2014, 04:52:07 PM »

You will hear all sorts if stupid ideas. One I heard is "yes there are rockets but no space rockets". Another one is: "there is no air for the engines to run.". In the end not one FE'ers has ever seen one go up so it does not exist.

Nobody has seen one go up into space, not just flat Earthers. There is nothing in that sky that is man made, higher than about 100,000 feet and I'm being generous here.

So when I get my telescope out and look at the International space station. What is it that you think I'm looking at?

Also that is predictable.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Orbits

« on: May 13, 2014, 03:01:49 PM »

You will hear all sorts if stupid ideas. One I heard is "yes there are rockets but no space rockets". Another one is: "there is no air for the engines to run.". In the end not one FE'ers has ever seen one go up so it does not exist.

Nobody has seen one go up into space, not just flat Earthers. There is nothing in that sky that is man made, higher than about 100,000 feet and I'm being generous here.

It is interesting that people all around the world can see the ISS on a precise time all the time and you say satellites don't exist. I can tell you exactly when it will pass over your area for months ahead of time. Maybe it is a baby moon.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Why does the Sun have always the same size?

« on: May 13, 2014, 02:40:43 PM »

Once again, you are neglecting to take into account the atmospheric lensing.

5200 miles away is not that far. Explain how atmospheric lensing would make everything larger?

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Why does the Sun have always the same size?

« on: May 13, 2014, 02:31:50 PM »

Here is a diagram that shows why the sun's size should change if it was 3000 miles away on a FE model. If you were at noon at the equator (March 21) the sun will be straight up. If you go 5200 miles east or west the distance to the sun will double. That means the sun size would be half the size. You should be able to measure this if the earth is flat but as EarthIsASpaceship said it does not change.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Why does the Sun have always the same size?

« on: May 13, 2014, 01:49:59 PM »

Luke, the sun is not seen as light until it reflects from the dome.  The EM waves come from the center of the Earth and are transformed and seen as light on the dome.

What is the content of the EM wave?

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Flat Earth General / Re: Beautiful...

« on: May 13, 2014, 01:37:16 PM »

But if NOAA (National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration) or the equivalent thereof in your country (presumably the Royal Australian [or New Zealand, or whatever] God-knows-what-they-call-it) uses round earth science to predict the weather, how can you possibly trust it? I can understand that you trust the roads and what-not. That does not depend on the shape of the earth. But weather predictions do.

Oh, I didn't realise you were a meteorologist. Please explain the highlighted sentence.

You don't have to be race car driver to use the roads or a airline pilot to fly on a airline. There are lots of companies or agencies that use the information from NOAA. Weather information from NOAA is not a secret. Anybody can learn how weather is predicted. It is not magic.

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Flat Earth General / Re: Beautiful...

« on: May 13, 2014, 12:54:22 PM »

But you do use the cell network, GPS networks, computers, a lot of medical technology, etc, much of which was developed for space and or military use. And since I never took American citizenship, I actually hold a British passport. Idiots.

I am Canadian and have all those things. All I can say is thank you very much. It gives me a great life. Government are not evil like you see in the movies. Government are made up people just like you and I with kids and families.