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Flat Earth Q&A / Proof that the Earth is indeed flat
« on: November 14, 2005, 03:30:37 AM »
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I myself have never seen it, I have heard through my colleges that since its discovery it has been protected by a security organisation, its name is not known to me and its not important. What is important is it does exist. I will point to the official seal of the United Nations which lays out the true map of the world www.un.int


... I just don't even understand why you'd dispute years and years of scientific fact, and then say "I have heard". Have you ever bothered to, say, read at all? Does all your "proof" come from the grapevine? And did Captain James Cook know about this security organisation when he sailed AROUND the world? Come now, at least think before you type next time.

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Flat Earth Q&A / Evolution - dispelling the myths
« on: November 10, 2005, 03:27:29 AM »
Okay, I'm sick of reading all these ignorant and misinformed posts posted by slack-jawed incestuous hicks who obviously know nothing of what they are talking about.

To be short and sweet:

Evolution HAS and DOES occur.

Evolution has been OBSERVED occurring.

Speciation has been OBSERVED occuring.

A theory in science has a different meaning than in normal everyday speech. All you people who say "but evolution is only a theory!" need to realise that in science a theory is defined as : structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts.

Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape-like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered.

Everyone needs to read this: http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/evolution-fact.html

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Evolution???
« on: November 10, 2005, 01:19:50 AM »

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Flat Earth Q&A / Gravity, and how it works.
« on: November 09, 2005, 03:33:42 AM »
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The flat-earthers believe that the flat, cd-shaped earth is constantly flying up, and our bodies want to stay in the same place (i forget what its called). So it feels like we are being pulled down, but really the earth is moving up.


If this were true, then the Sun, moon and planets would all have to be moving "up" at the same rate to avoid complications.

If the earth were moving "up", then what caused the movement in the first place? There would need to be some sort of force to produce the initial movement of the earth, which flat-earthers haven't yet specified. Yet another hole in their rediculous half-baked hypothesis.

Conversely, the spherical earth-orbits-the-sun model shows us that the movement of the earth is attributed to the gravitational pull of the sun, which is a uniform centripetal force.

I don't even know why I actually bother telling you all this, its OBVIOUS to anyone with an IQ of 30 and above that the earth is SPHERICAL AND ORBITS THE SUN.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Evolution???
« on: November 09, 2005, 03:22:51 AM »
I really wish people would get their facts straight about evolution. Darwin was NOT an idiot. That's like saying Newton was an idiot just because Einstein's theories replaced Newton's. Of course, Newton wasn't an idiot, and neither was Darwin.

You all need to read http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/evolution-fact.html

Which explains to you that evolution is both a fact and a theory, and the real definitions of the words "fact" and "theory" (for they have different definitions in science).

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