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There are some very good points on both sides but I think I can settle this definitely. The Mars Rover found a rock shaped like Australia on marshttp://marsmobile.jpl.nasa.gov/msl/multimedia/raw/?rawid=NLB_450148642EDR_F0310216NCAM00354M_&s=593That is just proof that The Conspiracy(tm) is lazy and rehashing the same crap over and over.
The only way this could be explained is if Australia exists.
Australia exists because:Or so you are told.
1. I am here
2. Australia has coast all round it, which I have followed on a road tripOr just that the land you are traveling around is said to be "Australia"
3. Zoo's outside of Australia have Australian animalsOr maybe, we are just told that they are from "Australia"
4. Satellites can see Australia (Yes, the earth is round)Or it is just photo-shopped in by the evil conspirators.
Even if none of this is true, how can I believe that America or Europe exists, since I have never been there?True, you do not have proof that America or Europe exists.
This is just a case of someone trying to get attention.There you go, I gave you some.
But for some things, 5 meters might be a long way away, while others it might be really close. So distance is subjective.Distance can be a subjective thing.Please elaborate on how. I have always been under the impression that physical attributes are objective things, that exist and are true regardless of testing or observation. 5 meters is always 5 meters.
How does mass spectrometry work if all atoms touch each other?
BJ1234 would gain from a Round Earth because it pays 25 cents a post.
Very nice for all of you.
Is 'space' a vacuum?
You thought that mass * velocity was the thrust equation.
No I didn't.
I said that you lot claimed it was.
And I was right; look:thrust is produced since mass flow*velocity=force.
Yet again you are shown to be a Liar & a Shitposter.
But at least you got top post in...
Cos that's what's most important to you, ain't it?
LOL!!!
Oh; plus this:Rockets work by creating a pressure differential between themselves & the medium through which they move.
When that medium is removed - as in the case of a vacuum - then rockets cannot work.
This is absolutely elemental stuff; yet you will never, ever grasp it...
I leave the reason for your continued denials & ignorance up to neutral readers to deduce for themselves.
I know you hate this post; so it must have some merit, eh?
Toodle-pip, Losers!
Her's the post where I finally woke luckyfred/tomfi up to the fact he'd been answeing to his sock-puppet name for two whole pages:am I a loser cause I've said something wrong?
No; it's a bit more obvious than that.
But at least you've admitted you ARE a Loser...
That's a start!
Now the healing process can begin.
It's all back on pages 196-198 of this thread for those who want a good laugh; I was pissing myself every time the dumb troll replied...
But I'm sure he'll now claim he knew I was doing it all along; that, I suggest would be a Lie, from a proven Liar.
Enjoy!
I don't like being murdered.How do you know? Have you tried being murdered yet? If not, how do you know you wouldn't like it?
Imagine that, you seem to be shocked that people think that these were faked, yet you are not shocked at all that there are people who think 9/11 was staged. WHich would be more difficult to fake?Yes, it is not easy to be at sea. That's why people like me are about to check what happens at sea. You have probably heard about Costa Concordia ship running up on an island 14 January 2012? - http://heiwaco.com/news8.htm .My speciality is otherwise at sea.Hmm... I guess this explains why the term "at sea" is an idiom for being confused.
Re topic there are people thinking that the French attacks were staged events and that nobody was killed - http://cluesforum.info/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=1847&sid=42374ee3dabf6a2d826659e233251c07&start=195 .
And why do you think all these countries are operating in deficit and have tremendous debt? Eventually, their facade will crack because they won't be able to keep up with the crippling debt.I Just registered here just because Master_Evar made the same point I wanted to make.
I'm new to this FE stuff an I still can't believe how selective FEthers are.
I work in the VFX industry, and I can tell you a decent studio (and you will need about 20+ for all the "ISS fakery" available working round the clock) would charge $30,000 for every CGI second. this is not for actors, not for all the REAL rockets launched not for every "fake" satellite out there, just for the CGI work. And don't argue with those numbers as this is from a studio that did Mad Max Fury road, and many other blockbuster films.
For 12 hours of footage it will cost $1.296 Billion. Let us say they had technical issues and only broadcast 300 days of a year, that would be $388.8 Billion a year. Now, add the micro gravity stuff of the crew, the fake launches, the entire staff that has been acting for decades (since hubble)- Paying off EVERYONE who was involved so on so forth... it will amount to a LOT more than $500 Billion a year. The ISS crew take high resolution pictures constantly with their cameras of earth, faking that alone is a feat.. in fact MANY CGI movies that have a shot of earth, use this picture and paint over it because of the tremendous cost it takes to light and render atmosphere of the earth correctly.
It was used in Oblivioun and I believe gravity and interstellar.
http://www.spaceflightnow.com/news/n0402/04atmosphere/atmosphere.jpg
Please tell me how you can fake this again? It isn't possible. I am a 3D artist, and I know. We are not this good yet, and for footage to be so good since the 60s... well.. It must be aliens.
Good luck coming up with answers for this one.
Please, cite your sources for these numbers so we know you are not just making them up. Thanks.
Numbers are actually confidential and are of a friend that works at "the place". I am not willing to disclose the company name, nor my friends name. I work at a small studio he works with the big guys. No citation needed here, this is simply how much they bill per second of CGI work. The electricity bill alone there is $7million a Quater, and they wont have the amount of staff or render power to render anything close to this, you will need MANY studios to fake something like this. Render time for each frame of transformers took around 24 hours. a FARM of computers (3000 computers or so) can do 3000 frames a day. At that rate, you will need 345 days for 3000 computers to render 12 hours of footage at 24 frames a second. hmm.. All to be replaced the next 12 hours. Running costs for something like this is ridiculous.
Let me guess, you still need a citation. The main reason i signed up is to support Master_Evar's "claim" as I am from the industry.
You guys probably don't know the first thing about rendering and composting. Composting alone will be a feat. all this time and no screw ups? not a single "Fluid simulation" accidentally disappearing as the renders for it "failed". I don't know, I'd love to work with such a studio that does a flawless execution of something so massive.
Why would your compass read north when circumnavigating the south pole? I can't picture this happening on a round or flat Earth. Perhaps you are misinterpreting something that you may have read? Can you explain further?
I was just asking if You were circumnavigating the Southpole If it would indicate North in the compass, or if there is any force attracting You to the North or in the case of FE the center of the disk, of course in a FE there's no North, the North magnetic is the center of the disk. Making this simple: Supposing that we live in a FE what is the compass indicating, of course it is the center of the circle, but does that imply something? Cheers
Where is the south pole in this picture?
Then forget about south pole, I want to know what is the meaning of a compass in a FE, if we're living in a disk that has compasses pointing North or center, what is that?
I have actually used an OA cutter; I know what that kind of gas mix at those kind of temperatures does to metals & it is not pretty.So, why doesn't the torch head melt? As you said, the flame gets to 3500 degrees. Brass, the main metal used in the head, melts below 2000 degrees. How would the torch head survive the 3500 degree flame? According to your logic, the torch head should melt fairly quickly. And as you just stated, you have seen what the flame does to metals.
Most bacteria is almost no threat at all if you have access to treatment. It is the viruses that are the challenge.They are more mechanism than living things. The vaccines they try to force on you are unproven at best. Just last week they warned that kids that were given vaccines in the late 60's were given infected shots. They think some 60% will show ill effects at old age, nice.
Autism looks to be totally from vaccines.Completely false. The Cr. Wakefield has been shown to have ignored lab data that went against his hypothesis, there has been no link connecting autism and vaccines time and time again.
I would not trust any of them.That is your prerogative to ignore data and not trust science.
The flu shots are the most worthless, but are a great money maker for the designer drug makers.That is a nice opinion that you hold. Don't go about spouting it as fact.
First off it has to be targeted to the right flu. Last year the missed the target almost completely.First thing that I agree with you about. But what about years where they do get the match right?
Next it does not prevent the flu, it only lessens the effects of the flu in some people. The people that need the help most it helps the least, the young and old. It is almost of no value, The flu sucks, but no one dies from the flu. It is the side effects, lung fluids mostly.Honestly, what a crock of shit. That is like saying no one dies from car accidents. It is the profuse internal bleeding from getting crushed by a ton of steel that really killed them.
The biggest mistake is trying to reduce the fever. The fever is the bodies way to inhibit the reproduction rate of the virus. Artificially lowering the bodies protective heat can let the virus go out of control.Yes, and high fever temperatures can cause brain damage and also kill you. But hey, it isn't the flu virus that kills you, it is the side effects right?
It appears the flu at the end of ww1 that killed so many relates to the then newly wide spread use of aspirin to lower the fevers.The paper I found has a hypothesis that it was the size of the dose of aspirin that actually cause the fluid on the lungs, not the flu virus.
There have been other cases where many were killed by bad vaccines.I am sure there have been, but then again, there are plenty of people who don't die because of vaccines.
They really do not know what they are doing, just making money mostly.See previous comment about opinion and presenting it as fact.
(disclaimer this is my opinion only get the facts and make up your own mind)Thanks for putting the disclaimer in. Although you did one hell of a job presenting things as facts instead of as your opinion.
The lack of knowledge about European culture and disrespect in this thread is beyond me.So far the only one that is arguing that someone should have fired back is, as stated above me, is a European. Not sure why you automatically assume that Heiwa was an American. Maybe you are taking what you you are told by the media and assuming everyone from America is riding around in a rusty beat up pick up truck with a shotgun rack in the back window waving a 5 foot flag out the window.
In Norway, Sweden, Denmark, Finland, Germany, Belgium, The Netherlands, France, Spain, Luxembourg, Switzerland, Austria, Poland etc., civilians do not carry firearms. The expectation that at least some civilians would fire back is so typical American it makes you further question the level of intelligence of the average American citizen. It doesn't surprise me that the leading Flat Earthers are American as well.
Your thought processes is what is actually wrong with humanity in todays so-called global society.
Regards from Denmark.
Yes, usually when someone pulls a gun, there is panic. Especially a few days after over 100 people just got shot dead nearby. Not sad at all, it is human nature to flee danger. You have a split second to make a judgement call, you make it. You start running.No, somebody asked about plainclothes people carrying guns at Paris and I just mentioned the panic caused when on such person - a cop - drew his gun when a lightbulb exploded. In the end 1000's of people were running in all directions. Sad actually. Sloppy police work.Expected a few days after a major shooting nearby. Also, even if it wasn't an someone pulled a gun, people will panic.The next Paris drama was Sunday 15 November at 18.30 h at Diner Bedford, a restaurant at rue du Bourg-Tibourg. A light bulb exploded and the guests panicked. A police in civilan clothes put forward his firearm/handgun and that was too much. The guests at adjacent restaurants also panicked and ran away. Some shouted they had seen an armed terrorist. Then also people on adjacent streets - rue Sainte-Croix-de-la-Bretonnoerie and rue des Archives - started running way and the panicl spread in all directions. 1000's of people got worried. It seems there are armed civilians around at Paris."A police in civilan clothes"
*Facepalm*
Not even you can be this stupid, right? Right?
List of police that might be wearing civilian clothes.
1) Off Duty police. Not sure of laws in France, but in the US, these officers still carry their weapons.
2)Under cover police. You know, the ones that try to fit in with criminals to infiltrate the criminal organization.
3)Plainclothes cops. The ones that, get this, wear plain clothes to fit in with the general population so they don't stick out as much.
Of all the diatribe that Heiwa has spewed, you decide to pick out the one thing that actually happens.
*facepalm*
Anyway, it seems people wearing normal clothes (and not uniforms) carry guns at Paris ... and start panicks when showing them.QuoteGuns are always a problem.Not sure about this. I know plenty of people who own guns, and are fully licensed and registered to carry, they use their guns for both sport shooting and hunting. In neither of these situations, the guns are a problem.QuoteA friend of mine was Master of a luxary yacht in the port nearby and when the Owner + bodyguards were aboard there were also plenty guns around. When my Master friend once declared these guns to some other port authority he was at once arrested and put in jail ... .Well, your friend should have checked the local laws before going into port with a yacht full of guns. Maybe your friend's ignorance of local laws was the problem, not the guns.QuoteMyself am trained to shoot with multiple guns and I have no licences whatsoever. So please behave when arguing with me.Or what? You going to take the gun and shoot your computer if you get ticked off? Or you going to fly to America, find me, and shoot me?
Expected a few days after a major shooting nearby. Also, even if it wasn't an someone pulled a gun, people will panic.The next Paris drama was Sunday 15 November at 18.30 h at Diner Bedford, a restaurant at rue du Bourg-Tibourg. A light bulb exploded and the guests panicked. A police in civilan clothes put forward his firearm/handgun and that was too much. The guests at adjacent restaurants also panicked and ran away. Some shouted they had seen an armed terrorist. Then also people on adjacent streets - rue Sainte-Croix-de-la-Bretonnoerie and rue des Archives - started running way and the panicl spread in all directions. 1000's of people got worried. It seems there are armed civilians around at Paris."A police in civilan clothes"
*Facepalm*
Not even you can be this stupid, right? Right?
List of police that might be wearing civilian clothes.
1) Off Duty police. Not sure of laws in France, but in the US, these officers still carry their weapons.
2)Under cover police. You know, the ones that try to fit in with criminals to infiltrate the criminal organization.
3)Plainclothes cops. The ones that, get this, wear plain clothes to fit in with the general population so they don't stick out as much.
Of all the diatribe that Heiwa has spewed, you decide to pick out the one thing that actually happens.
*facepalm*
Anyway, it seems people wearing normal clothes (and not uniforms) carry guns at Paris ... and start panicks when showing them.
Guns are always a problem.Not sure about this. I know plenty of people who own guns, and are fully licensed and registered to carry, they use their guns for both sport shooting and hunting. In neither of these situations, the guns are a problem.
A friend of mine was Master of a luxary yacht in the port nearby and when the Owner + bodyguards were aboard there were also plenty guns around. When my Master friend once declared these guns to some other port authority he was at once arrested and put in jail ... .Well, your friend should have checked the local laws before going into port with a yacht full of guns. Maybe your friend's ignorance of local laws was the problem, not the guns.
Myself am trained to shoot with multiple guns and I have no licences whatsoever. So please behave when arguing with me.Or what? You going to take the gun and shoot your computer if you get ticked off? Or you going to fly to America, find me, and shoot me?
The next Paris drama was Sunday 15 November at 18.30 h at Diner Bedford, a restaurant at rue du Bourg-Tibourg. A light bulb exploded and the guests panicked. A police in civilan clothes put forward his firearm/handgun and that was too much. The guests at adjacent restaurants also panicked and ran away. Some shouted they had seen an armed terrorist. Then also people on adjacent streets - rue Sainte-Croix-de-la-Bretonnoerie and rue des Archives - started running way and the panicl spread in all directions. 1000's of people got worried. It seems there are armed civilians around at Paris."A police in civilan clothes"
*Facepalm*
Not even you can be this stupid, right? Right?
(missing the windows!)Once again, different definition of broken windows I guess.
the windows are not broken
You must have a very different definition of the words windows are not broken than I do. I clearly see broken windows and glass in this picture.
the windows are not broken
Busch's baked beans caused 9/11.Are they better than Heinz 57?
WHY CAN'T YOU JUST READ?!Because if he did, he wouldn't be able to incorrectly state that the wind is caused by the Coriolis effect.
ask yourself this: which "ancient" very important figure was worshipped in the form of a wild boar?The Hogfather of course.
You are missing the point. The water wouldn't be 400 degrees, the steam would be. What are you knew at maths?If I'm understanding this properly, I think he's saying if I dump water at 200 degrees into a pot of water at 200 degrees the water should be 400 degrees.Since the lot of you denying the fact that the steel beams melted seem to know anything about chemistry, and chemical reactions whatsoever, I'll enlighten you.
Magnesium was a metal commonly used in the body of aircraft. When magnesium starts to burn, it can burn at a temperature of up to 3,500 degrees farenheight. That's pretty hot. In addition, when aluminium, also used in the body of aircraft, is converted to a powder-like form, it can burn at up to 1,400 degrees farenheight. Now, the burning temperature of jet fuel can range from 800 to 1,500 degrees farenheight. Combine all these temperatures and you get this:
3,500 + 1,400 + 800 to 1,500 = 4900 to 6400
Now, let's compare to the melting point of steel, which clocks in at just about 2750 degrees farenheight. When you look at it, the lowest burning temperature of an airplane that would've just crashed into a building is almost twice the melting point of steel.
In short, burning jet fuel by itself can't melt steel beams, but when you combine it with the fact that the rest of the plane is burning, then it's way more than enough to melt steel beams.
You are talking about pure magnesium shavings and trying to apply it to solid magnesium alloys. Are you really this dumb, or just really desperate?
Should we try an experiment?
Is this guy serious?
Just because Object A affects Object B, it doesn't mean that Object A caused object B."Wind is not caused by the Coriolis effect at all."Can you please quote the specific sentence where I state that wind is not affected by the Coriolis effect? I'm growing tired of FE's who deliberately misread parts of my posts for evading and slowing down the discussion.So, it affects the wind? And yet does not affect the wind?The plane is subject to wind, caused by the Coriolis Effect. It affects the air, which is well known, but you claim it shoudn't.Wind is not caused by the Coriolis effect at all. Whoever told you this lied. What the Coriolis effect does is causing clockwise and counter-clockwise rotations in the wind streams, and deflecting them a bit. Coriolis effect does nothing but DEFLECT objects to the side, it always acts perpendicular to the direction of travel.
So, either you were making an irrelevant claim, or you were responding to my statement that the wind that moves aircraft is caused by the Coriolis effect.
If you don't want to be misread, you may find staying on topic useful.
