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Flat Earth General / Re: Forces of nature, Brian Cox - pt2.
« on: July 12, 2016, 09:02:33 AM »
This is an analogy to Brian Cox's experiment:

Imagine you stay still inside a train travelling eastbound at 40 mph. You cannot feel the train movement because you are travelling with the train. Then comes Brian Cox. To "catch up" with the train movement, he rides a bike inside the same train towards westbound at 40 mph. You see him travelling backward at 40 mph, and Brian sees the scenery outside the train at standstill. You can try this yourself.

Now replace "you" with the observer laid on the ground, "train" with Earth, "bike" with Eurofighter Typhoon, "40" with 650 and "scenery outside the train" with Sun.

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Flat Earth General / Re: Forces of nature, Brian Cox - pt2.
« on: July 12, 2016, 08:06:04 AM »
Are you by any chance referring to 650 mph (as opposed to 1000 mph)?

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Flat Earth General / Re: if satellites are in space...
« on: September 05, 2015, 04:39:00 AM »
....why don't TV satellite dishes point up?
They do on the equator


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Flat Earth General / Re: A lie 9+ years in the making
« on: July 30, 2015, 06:18:17 AM »
So maybe, just maybe, it really took 9+ years for New Horizons to reach Pluto. And also, maybe, the sustained space travel is possible after all. There seems to be no other explanation :P

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Flat Earth General / Re: A lie 9+ years in the making
« on: July 19, 2015, 03:36:57 AM »
Also bear in mind that if New Horizons was taking 10 of these every single second for 9+ years, some kind of animation of them in motion wouldn't be too hard either, as well as being very scientifically valuable...

Does that exist?

Or are you still waiting for NASA's CGI 'imagineers' to knock them up?

LMFAO!!!

The Fraud is as clear as the nose on your face, Pinnochio...
The closest thing I have found to your highlighted claim is this http://www.gizmag.com/new-horizons-time-lapse-pluto-charon/36104/ where 7 different pictures were taken at 7 different days in January, each time with an exposure time of one-tenth of a second, too short to capture Plutoís other, more distant moons.



For sure, New Horizons didn't take 10 pictures every single second for 9+ years. The sensor of its cameras are so sensitive that they had to cover the camera because  if you got a glimpse of the sun, or the sun reflected in the moon or Earth, you could saturate the detector and potentially destroy it. They didnít open the aperture until they were closer to Mars.

http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2015/07/the-camera-behind-the-new-horizons-pluto-photos-ralph/398549/

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Flat Earth General / Re: A lie 9+ years in the making
« on: July 18, 2015, 04:54:47 AM »
Who is the beneficiary of this Pluto probe crap ? If you Inquire in to who is the creditor & who is the debtor.  Then you will realize the scam.

I still can't see how this can be a scam. Can you enlighten me please?

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Flat Earth General / Re: A lie 9+ years in the making
« on: July 18, 2015, 04:24:02 AM »
I've come to sort of know N.A.S.A and the little merry employees wearing blue shirts or whatever shirts suit them and I have a feeling that this story isn't over just yet.

I watched a documentary on this the other night. I laughed like hell at it. The supposed experts waiting with baited breath for the probe to about turn and get pictures.

With N.A.S.A and the team, miracles are always only a stones throw away. Or in some cases, 3 billion miles.  ;D

So what? Is ad-hominem the best you can do to prove this is a conspiracy? You still haven't answered why, if there was a conspiracy, they had waited a decade after the probe's launch to present us with the pictures.
Are you a blue shirt?

Still dodging my question aren't you? Classic scepti :P

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Flat Earth General / Re: A lie 9+ years in the making
« on: July 18, 2015, 04:22:49 AM »
After 9+ years of waiting, here's the first close up picture of Pluto!

9 years for just a boring mountainous landscape? Come on dudes. Wake up!
What now, we can not even go to the moon.
So when is Gunnar going Pluto with the non for profit Pluto One.


Why would they wait for a decade to finish their story? Why would they spend that time for a story that almost no one would care for less. Your conspiracy theory doesn't hold up to scrutiny. It just doesn't make sense. You and the like are even unable to defend it.
You think 9 years is a long time for a story? if they made it up it should have only taken 2 weeks, right?
Your cute!

Would you wait 9 years to get laid? You're cute too!
So the longer it takes to go back to the moon just makes it more believable we went in the first place. Got it!

Why are you talking about Moon now?

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Flat Earth General / Re: A lie 9+ years in the making
« on: July 18, 2015, 04:21:19 AM »
The 'New Horizons' (lol - 'horizons' in space? Fail!) Probe allegedly had 2 'star cameras', taking 10 photos per second of the surrounding star-field, in order to compare it to their onboard map of over 10,000 stars & thus help orientate/navigate the craft.

Where did you get the part which I highlighted from?

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Flat Earth General / Re: A lie 9+ years in the making
« on: July 16, 2015, 06:22:46 AM »
I've come to sort of know N.A.S.A and the little merry employees wearing blue shirts or whatever shirts suit them and I have a feeling that this story isn't over just yet.

I watched a documentary on this the other night. I laughed like hell at it. The supposed experts waiting with baited breath for the probe to about turn and get pictures.

With N.A.S.A and the team, miracles are always only a stones throw away. Or in some cases, 3 billion miles.  ;D

So what? Is ad-hominem the best you can do to prove this is a conspiracy? You still haven't answered why, if there was a conspiracy, they had waited a decade after the probe's launch to present us with the pictures.

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Flat Earth General / Re: A lie 9+ years in the making
« on: July 16, 2015, 03:56:15 AM »
After 9+ years of waiting, here's the first close up picture of Pluto!

9 years for just a boring mountainous landscape? Come on dudes. Wake up!
What now, we can not even go to the moon.
So when is Gunnar going Pluto with the non for profit Pluto One.


Why would they wait for a decade to finish their story? Why would they spend that time for a story that almost no one would care for less. Your conspiracy theory doesn't hold up to scrutiny. It just doesn't make sense. You and the like are even unable to defend it.
You think 9 years is a long time for a story? if they made it up it should have only taken 2 weeks, right?
Your cute!

Would you wait 9 years to get laid? You're cute too!

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Flat Earth General / Re: A Flatearth Wallpaper :)
« on: July 15, 2015, 11:37:42 PM »
Nice. Too bad there is no like button :)

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Flat Earth General / Re: A lie 9+ years in the making
« on: July 15, 2015, 10:48:42 PM »
After 9+ years of waiting, here's the first close up picture of Pluto!

9 years for just a boring mountainous landscape? Come on dudes. Wake up!
What now, we can not even go to the moon.
So when is Gunnar going Pluto with the non for profit Pluto One.

Why would they wait for a decade to finish their story? Why would they spend that time for a story that almost no one would care for less. Your conspiracy theory doesn't hold up to scrutiny. It just doesn't make sense. You and the like are even unable to defend it.

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Flat Earth General / Re: A lie 9+ years in the making
« on: July 15, 2015, 01:18:29 PM »
After 9+ years of waiting, here's the first close up picture of Pluto!



9 years for just a boring mountainous landscape? Come on dudes. Wake up!


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Flat Earth General / Re: A lie 9+ years in the making
« on: July 15, 2015, 01:14:17 PM »
The pictures should be better if they were taken from space.

Are you saying you believe in space travel?

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Flat Earth General / Re: A lie 9+ years in the making
« on: July 15, 2015, 01:11:11 PM »
I don't think you are getting my point scepti. If NASA had lied about sending a probe to Pluto, why would they have waited 9.5 years after the actual launch to tell everyone that the probe finally reaches Pluto.
If I wanted to lie to you about telling you that my friend set off from my home to walk around the world and end up back at my door but did this feat by walking on his hands which consisted of not only ascending hills and what not, but also walking onto barges and into tunnels and all things needed to achieve this, then I can't tell people I've set him off then the next day tell them he's done it. Right?

I'd have to calculate a load of bullshit up that made enough calculable sense to those wishing to do the math, so that whatever time it took by fictionally calculating the distance and his average speed, I can then shout out (in maybe 9 years) that the man has achieved the goal set out.

Now someone like me would pipe up with, " oh yeah, sure he's done this. what a crock of crap."  You would tell everyone that he has done it because it's took him so long and it makes sense for it to take him that long. So there you are. It's all true.

Come of for crying out loud. Are you really that effing naive?  ::)

But why would you start the story in the first place?
Why does anyone lie?
That doesn't answer the question, it just avoids it.  Why did they tell this particular lie?
This lie is a continuation of all the space travel lies. One lie piled on top of another. The reason is to keep you amazed and baffled, to keep you unaware of the very ground you walk on. You think you are flying through space at unimaginable speeds, actually you are planted on an unmovable earth.

I bet if you ask any 100 people what the New Horizons Probe is, less than 10 of them would have the faintest idea. An awful lot of effort for very little payback.

This is so true. Less than 10% would have any idea of what it is and even lesser would care for what it does.

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Flat Earth General / Re: A lie 9+ years in the making
« on: July 15, 2015, 02:17:33 AM »
Below is what New Horizons captured in June 2015 (last month). The pictures look very blurry. Is this what "Hollywood" could do best?



They could have done something as sharp as below (which is a CGI version):



Get real.

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Flat Earth General / Re: A lie 9+ years in the making
« on: July 14, 2015, 07:24:44 AM »
If I want to spin you lies for a long time and amaze you at the same time, I have to play the game carefully.
In time the distances traveled will get faster and shorter, just like the man walking around the world on his hands.
The next time he does something, we add rubber palm pads and then springs and so on so we can knock off so much time.

In your space, they will invent hyper drives and all kids of bollocks that will have mars trips as good as going to the shops, just as soon as they get the Hollywood effects believable for the viewing audience.

Make the distances further away so people cannot challenge it with any authority.
Piss easy to pull off for these people.
Let's face it. In this day and age when people can see the moon landing shit for what it was, the likes of you are gripped to it like a frigging limpet as being 100% true.
If you're going to believe that in this day and age then you'll believe they went to pluto in an inflatable dingy and snorkelling gear.

Writing longer doesn't mean it will make more sense. You still don't make any sense. If they can lie about everything that everyone would grip to it like a frigging limpet as being 100% true then why would they take 9.5 years to finish your lie? It just doesn't make any sense at all.

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Flat Earth General / Re: A lie 9+ years in the making
« on: July 14, 2015, 04:25:02 AM »
I'd have to calculate a load of bullshit up that made enough calculable sense to those wishing to do the math, so that whatever time it took by fictionally calculating the distance and his average speed, I can then shout out (in maybe 9 years) that the man has achieved the goal set out.

The difference between walking around the world and flying to Pluto is that you can easily lie about the distance to Pluto and how fast a spacecraft can be. So why 3 billion miles in 9.5 years? It could have been 3 billion miles in one year, anyway they could have as well made up a very fast spacecraft or 300 million miles in one year if they had lied about the distance. 9.5 years is a very long waiting game for everyone, some like Venetia Burney, who witnessed the launch did not even make it to see the arrival of the probe.

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Flat Earth General / Re: A lie 9+ years in the making
« on: July 14, 2015, 03:36:14 AM »
I don't think you are getting my point scepti. If NASA had lied about sending a probe to Pluto, why would they have waited 9.5 years after the actual launch to tell everyone that the probe finally reaches Pluto.

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Flat Earth General / A lie 9+ years in the making
« on: July 14, 2015, 03:08:52 AM »
New Horizons is on its closest approach to Pluto and its moons. Why would anyone spend 9+ years to create a such elaborate lie? Why would anyone lie about Pluto's distance of 3 billion miles from Earth? Why would lie about a spacecraft that can only travel that distance in 9.5 years?

20th Jan 2006: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/4629486.stm
14th Jul 2015: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-33517532
Its position: http://www.livecometdata.com/new-horizons-spacecraft/


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We should all be grateful to live on a round rotating Earth because we get one extra second to stay in bed now and then :)

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The last minute of June 2015 will have 61 seconds in it.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-33313347

A leap second is a one-second adjustment that is occasionally applied to UTC/GMT in order to keep its time of day close to the mean solar time. The Earth's rotation speed varies in response to climatic and geological events, leap seconds are irregularly spaced and unpredictable. Since this system of correction was implemented in 1972, 25 such leap seconds have been inserted.

Therefore, leap second proves that it is the Earth which rotates and not the Sun nor other celestial objects.

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It should be doable to verify the circumference of the ring but it depends how much you want to bet on this.

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This is a portion of Large Hadron Collider, a particle accelerator ring with 27 km in circumference (~1500 smaller than Earth). Personally, I can't see a curvature in there. Can you?
 

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Interesting finding. As per below, it seems we also have an equatorial chart.

http://observe.phy.sfasu.edu/SFAStarCharts/SFAStarChartsPro.pdf

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I agree that ground wave would work on a round earth or a flat earth, however, sky wave only makes sense on a round earth.

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There is also a round-the-world single-handed yacht race around Antarctica every 4 years.

http://www.vendeeglobe.org/en/

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The explanation you would use to describe sunsets for example.

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And does it matter to you if someone shows you the flaws of your so called logic?

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